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How the fuck did this guy start alphabay and make millions of dollars?

>About the time the service first began in December 2014, Cazes used his Hotmail address pimp_alex_91@hotmail.com as the 'From' address in system generated welcome and password reset emails, which he also used for his LinkedIn profile and his legitimate computer repair business in Canada.[1]

>Cazes used a pseudonym to run the site which he had previously used (e.g., in carding and tech forums) since at least 2008, and variously advertised this identity as the "designer", "administrator" and "owner" of the site[1]

>When Cazes was arrested, he was logged into his laptop performing an administrative reboot on an AlphaBay server in direct response to a law-enforcement created artificial system failure; furthermore, encryption was wholly absent on said laptop.[30][1]

>Cazes' laptop reportedly contained an unencrypted personal net worth statement mapping all global assets across multiple jurisdictions, conveniently leading police to complete asset seizure.[1]

>The servers were hosted at a company in Canada directly linked to his person.[1]

>The servers contained multiple constantly open (unencrypted) hot cryptocurrency wallets.[1]

>Cazes' flashy use of proceeds to purchase property, passports and luxury cars and frequent on-line boasting about his financial successes, including posting videos of himself driving luxury cars acquired through illegal proceeds, not only revealed his geographical location, it perforce made denying connection to the service impossible.[1]

>Assets acquired through proceeds were held in a variety of accounts directly linked to Cazes, his wife and companies they owned in Thailand (the same jurisdiction they lived), as well as directly held personal accounts in Liechstenstein, Cyprus, Switzerland and Antigua.[1]

He was more retarded than the average /biz/tard...

>> No.3006162
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3006162

>>3006123
>pimp_alex_91@hotmail.com

>> No.3006203

>>3006162
>using the email for his LinkedIn for his drug marketplace

>> No.3006484

Why the fuck do they keep attaching their real identities to these (((illegal))) servers? In the event that Tor anonymity inevitably fails, The 'servers' should be connected to a public wireless network from a safe distance, possibly using solar panels.

(((C))), ORIJINAL IDEAL, DONUTSTELE

>> No.3006497

>>3006484
Why does illegal have parentheses?

>> No.3006680

the report i read said hes computer was encrypted but when they raided his house the computer was in an unlocked state and all those things were open.
Also they couldnt figure out how much super secret monero he held :-)

>> No.3007199

>>3006123
There is definitely stupid shit in that but, to play devil's advocate, you usually don't expect your shitty website to become 10 times the size of Silk Road when you styart it.

The Kickass Torrents guy was pretty careful in the latter years, but got busted due to lackluster security during the first two years of the site before it blew up.

>> No.3007452

>>3006123
>Cazes' laptop reportedly contained an unencrypted personal net worth statement mapping all global assets across multiple jurisdictions,
what a fucking retard

>> No.3007557

There is a fine middle line between sophisticated businessman and drug traffickers. The people who fall into that niche, learn quickly that password/encryption oversec will hurt you much more then help you.
Forgetting/losing your password, phrase or equipment failure will destroy you when you have real money and business involved. So you hide in plan sight and you sync multiple accounts. PGP isn't stopping the cia, TFI or NSA. Also when your making millions of dollars off drugs theres a lot of invested people so agencys, lawyers and politicians have to coordinate to make sure there all green to go.

>> No.3007577

>>3007199
He got caught up because private corporations investigations and his site blowing up
>OVERSEC hurts you and doesn't stop you getting caught. Open air markets exist in every major city.

>> No.3008055

>>3006123
The people clever enough to pull this off are those clever enough to make massive bank in regular ways. And sensible enough to avoid risk.

That kind of stuff is only done by those with far more balls/stupidity than brains.

>> No.3008070

So whats the new site everyone's using then?

>> No.3008627

>>3008055
Not really. Ross Ulbrich or w.e the fuck he was called was intelligent

>> No.3008653

>>3008070
new signatum marketplace

>> No.3008666

>>3008070
t. FBI

>> No.3008701

>>3006123
who's version of the story is this?

>> No.3008712

>>3006497
jews