/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.30052191]

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR MONEY ANYMORE, YOU CIS WHITE TRASH

[Anonymous No.30052446]

>>30052191
why are stock buybacks any different than paying out dividends?

[Anonymous No.30052455]

>>30052191

[Anonymous No.30052569]

>>30052191
starting to think women shouldn't be in positions of authority

[Anonymous No.30052576]

>>30052191
At least they picked an amount that's actually out of reach for most people like 1 billion, I was worried they'd make the amount be something in the millions so that there'd never be an incentive to make it ever again

[Anonymous No.30052631]

>>30052191
>Rig the markets
>OH NO YOU CANNOT PLAY BY OUR SET RULES

[Anonymous No.30052729]

Are stock buybacks a meme?

[Anonymous No.30052856]

>>30052191
>be ATT
>pay a 7% or more divy
>can borrow at 4% or less
>could pay down debt and not have to pay the 4% interest payment for the duration of the loan
>could buy back shares and not have to pay the 7% divy in perpetuity

[Anonymous No.30052897]

>>30052569
>starting

[Anonymous No.30052926]

>>30052191
I'm a far right nut job, and fauxahontas is 100% correct.
Buybacks are used by mercenary CEO to pump the stock price without improving the actual balance sheet of the company, so they can get their massive bonuses, which they immediately market sell.

Buybacks should be punishable by death.

[Anonymous No.30052948]

>>30052569
Sweetie it's time to step aside and let the girls take care of things

[Anonymous No.30052967]

>>30052191
Stock buybacks are essentially paying off the debtors who invested in your company when it went public. What a dumb ass bitch.
If she has a problem with companies borrowing money to raise share price via buybacks, then raise the fucking interest rates to normal levels and get us out of this meme economy.

[Anonymous No.30052976]

>>30052569
>starting
Every religion in the world incorporates the idea that females should have zero decision making power

[Anonymous No.30053060]

>>30052967
Nooooo Mr. Saylor you can't just borrow almost free money to pump Bitcorn

[Anonymous No.30053083]

>>30052446
Because companies take profits out of the public domain. By buying back stock they are not creating new goods and services or hiring, but simply stuffing unrealized gains into the portfolios of the 10% of people who own stocks

[Anonymous No.30053179]

>>30052576
tale of the boiling frog etc. they start at 1bn and when the idea is universally accepted as normal in a few years they will lower the threshold to 500m, 50m, 5m etc because equality and women and minorities etc. it's always the same strategy and there are always retards that accept it because it sucks but it seems "reasonable enough". they never understand it is a long term play.

[Anonymous No.30053204]

>>30053083
and thats a GOOD thing

[Anonymous No.30053212]

>>30052576
You know in Weimar a loaf of bread costed several billions

[Anonymous No.30053227]

>>30053083
How are we the only people who get this on /pol business edition/?

[Anonymous No.30053263]

>>30052967
>Stock buybacks are essentially paying off the debtors who invested in your company when it went public

And when it went "public" you mean the company rode on the shoulders of a real economy of private and public partnership that created the "rails" of commerce including all the roads, transmission lines, power plants, day care, etc., and so on, and stuff it into the shareholders pockets which follow a power law and in reality, are mostly going to the 1% of the 10% that own stock

[Anonymous No.30053307]

>>30053083
That’s super harmful for an established economy though it just siphons off what would be used to empower everyone else. Pretty greedy desuu

[Anonymous No.30053334]

>>30052191
>3%
Wasn't it two percent yesterday?

[Anonymous No.30053344]

>>30052576
You are a moron and a sheep

[Anonymous No.30053420]

>>30052191
>policy that only effects super rich people
>HEY GOY GET MAD ABOUT THIS
no thanks

[Anonymous No.30053537]

>>30053344
Sorry but this. If you’d lose your incentive to make a million because of a three percent tax you’re a weirdo

[Anonymous No.30053553]

>>30053420
he thinks he won't be affected by banning buybacks lol. do you have a $100 stock portfolio little johnny?

[Anonymous No.30053574]

A company usually repurchases stock in the public market, just as a regular investor would. And so it’s buying from any investor who wants to sell the stock, rather than specific owners. By doing so, the company helps treat all investors fairly, since any investor can sell into the market.

[Anonymous No.30053643]

>>30052191
>buybacks are bad
>people who own stocks are bad
>inflation is good

Moral of the story:
>you vill eat ze bugs
>you vill own nossing
>and you vill be happy

[Anonymous No.30053673]

>>30053083
you didn't address the difference between buybacks and dividends at all

[Anonymous No.30053749]

>>30052967
This, unless she proposes rate hikes she can’t bitch about buybacks

[Anonymous No.30053759]

>>30052976
Perhaps but in addition every religion in America pays zero property taxes and zero taxes on their balance sheet which is how, in addition to taking advatance of other free shit from being essentially a non-profit, free labor and materials for importing nearly all the refugees and immigrants that comprise the vast majority of the population growth over the last 30 years

>>30052948
Most women are more comfortable having men take all the responsibility and blame. The current leadership class is all a bunch of criminals, though, too. Smart people don't want to be the bagholders through what is coming.

Thus all that is left on the shrill side are principled people like Warren. The rest are just liars as we await our doom. Warren was always a great choice because after the shit hits the fan only a person like her is going to have the moral courage to hold people accountable, in government and in society, for what happened.

Or perhaps you think a bunch of shifty criminals afe going to take responsibility? No, as the disaster dawns over the land, all those guys are going to flee, disappear, or swear they didn't know, blame others, or just go full cult religious nut and accept an end times scenario

[Anonymous No.30053803]

I made multiple million dollars on Cardano this bull run and I have no idea what a buyback is.

I’m going back to bed.

[Anonymous No.30053810]

>>30053083
And still its no different from paying dividends brainlet

[Anonymous No.30053820]

Alot of your responses make me realize just how much you all hate capitalism and freedom.

[Anonymous No.30053825]

>>30053673
You aren’t taxed on unrealized stock gains, you are on dividends

[Anonymous No.30053894]

>>30052191


>Repurchases return cash to shareholders who want to exit the investment.

>With a buyback, the company can increase earnings per share, all else equal. The same earnings pie cut into fewer slices is worth a greater share of the earnings.

>By reducing share count, buybacks increase the stock’s potential upside for shareholders who want to remain owners. If the company is worth $1 billion, but is split fewer ways, each share is worth more.

>They’re a more tax-efficient way to return the earnings of the business to shareholders, relative to dividends, which are taxable to those who receive them.

>Via repurchases, the company’s management shows confidence in the business and supports the stock price.

[Anonymous No.30053965]

>>30052976
No, they knew how to control it. For example, in the bush in Africa, the men would gather after dark, and shake the walls of the houses and make noises scaring the women. In the morning they would ask what happened and the medicine man would say, "It was God! Here are his instructions, or else his wrath will return worse next time..." And so, through the women, the children grow up fully indoctrinated until they are of age, and presumably wise enough to know how the whole scam works.

[Anonymous No.30053995]

>>30053759
Acceptability and blame is what keeps democrats down.

Democrat sexually accused of harassing one employee: I admit this happened and will take steps to address my behavior.
>voted out BOOOO MEN
Republican rapes women and is caught on video tape talking about how he likes to rape woman: didn’t happen, she’s too ugly for me to rape.
>gains constituents somehow

[Anonymous No.30054003]

>>30053825
that's not relevant either

[Anonymous No.30054015]

>>30053334
guess it's 2% on 50>mill and 3%>bill

...fucking dumb

[Anonymous No.30054038]

>>30052191
This is a statement against very rich corporations, actually

[Anonymous No.30054059]

>>30052191
>Women in politics

You liberals cannot even imagine how much I hate you.

[Anonymous No.30054114]

>>30054003
It’s the reason buybacks happen.

[Anonymous No.30054140]

Racial/class equity is more important than your profits.

[Anonymous No.30054167]

>>30052191
>company turns profit
>instead of re-investing it to improve the company, they give the money to a handful of Jews
this is why China is destroying you. You don't even produce your own semiconductors! Good luck in a war

[Anonymous No.30054201]

>>30054114
yes I know but it's not a fundamental difference between buybacks and dividends, so it's no answer to the question of why this hag is REEEEEEing about buybacks but not about dividends

[Anonymous No.30054205]

>>30052856
Explain i got confused on the point of your comment

[Anonymous No.30054208]

>>30054114
yes, but you seem to think tax efficiency is bad

[Anonymous No.30054232]

>>30053759

[Anonymous No.30054238]

>>30052191
what she should be criticizing are zero % interest rates which actually foster this kind of bullshit.
But of course the Federal Reserve is too powerful for some government lapdog like her

[Anonymous No.30054295]

>>30053083
Do you know where you are?
Neither the entire financial sector nor crypto creates new goods or services. We're all just a bunch of parasites consuming terawatts of electricity every year to play with virtual numbers.
And it's making a lot of us fucking rich.

[Anonymous No.30054308]

>>30053204
Take Berkshire for instance. Dividends were considered taking profits and instead of reinvesting to make more profits, you're just giving them away. Buffet called it stupid and never offered one. He said something similar about buybacks and resisted for years until it came out that most companies were doing it and how else could they compete? People were complaining, like they did about his A-Class shares being too high and not splitting, and profiteers started threatening to create a low cost derivative to sell to the public. Buffet didn't like the idea that a shifty cunt would be making profits off his company and so offered lower-class 'B' shares. In reality, he couldn't escape the buyback effect, and neither can anyone else who is broadly diversified. In his case, owning 7% of Apple.

[Anonymous No.30054333]

>>30054205
>cant do simple math
the company in question will have a net 3% savings buy doing buybacks instead of paying down outstanding debt

[Anonymous No.30054410]

>>30052191
>buybacks bad

While completely ignoring share dilution by creating money out of thin air and thus devaluing shareholder's shares.

[Anonymous No.30054533]

You want her on that wall.

You need her on that wall.

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

[Anonymous No.30054567]

>>30054205
He's saying that if you have to pay out dividends and want to maintain them, one way of doing that is buying back shares so you don't have to pay as much every year, and can save a company money. That clearly isn't just about "inflating executive pay".

[Anonymous No.30054591]

>>30054295
>Do you know where you are?

The jungle, baby. Gonna die... yadda yadda etc.

[Anonymous No.30054698]

>>30052446
Buybacks are tax free, dividends are subject to income or capital gains taxes, that's why they are chimping at buybacks

[Anonymous No.30054705]

>>30053227
pol is retarded and just buys boomer rocks.

[Anonymous No.30054827]

>>30053083
you can argue that paying out the cash instead of being forced to invest it in your own company is a good thing. that money might be better off being payed out, so people reinvest it into other companies with actual growth opportunities thereby creating more value than otherwise.

[Anonymous No.30054868]

>>30052976
it's easy to understand why, now.

[Anonymous No.30054930]

>>30053083
what's stopping the other 90% of people from owning stocks? i'm a wage slave making ~$13.75/hour and i own stocks lmao. who the fuck are these people who cant afford to invest and why are they niggers?

[Anonymous No.30055294]

maxine waters asked someone why they can't get a refund if a stock they bought went down in price. we have retard level simpletons in powerful government positions.

warren is slightly less retarded, but apparently doesn't understand basic market mechanics.

[Anonymous No.30055315]

>>30054114
its not the only reason. paying out dividends is a long term commitment. hence there's a whole secon of stocks called dividend paying stocks. if one year they decide not to pay out dividends their stock tanks because all the people that invested for the dividend fuck off. repurchasing shares on the other hand can be a one time thing when the company has excess cash and reinvesting into dumb projects doesn't make sense or if the company stock price is cheap at that moment in the eyes of the corporate governance.

[Anonymous No.30055450]

>>30052446
They unironically aren't.

[Anonymous No.30055524]

>>30053212
Because they didn't have any.

[Anonymous No.30055534]

>>30052191
Actually this is based, buybacks are often complete bullshit

[Anonymous No.30055753]

>>30053263
>you didn't build that
Go back to r.eddit you disgusting subhuman

[Anonymous No.30055838]

>>30052191
stock buybacks are a scam scam scam

[Anonymous No.30055941]

>>30055534
this
>company gets billions in bailout money so people can keep their jobs
>fires everyone anyway
>puts all the bailout money to stock buybacks
many such cases

[Anonymous No.30055970]

>>30053083
Stock buybacks are funded through profits which are generated by doing productive work. A company that owns 1billion in their bank accounts and pays that money out will go down by exactly 1 billion in value on the stock market, in exchange the money is in investors hands. If a company takes out a loan for stock buybacks then the company has 1 billion dollar liability that reduces the market cap of the company by 1 billion. It's exactly the same shit.

Why do companies pay dividends or do stock buybacks? Because they are telling you they don't need additional investment and you should go look for something else to put your money in.

[Anonymous No.30056113]

>>30053643

>economic faggot
>buybacks are good
>people who own stocks are good
>mild inflation is good

>libtarded faggot
>buybacks are bad
>people who own stocks are bad
>inflation is bad

[Anonymous No.30056188]

>>30053759
>Most women are more comfortable having men take all the responsibility and blame.

PATRIARCHY PATRIARCHY PATRIARCHY

MADONNA WAS KILLED BY THE PATRIARCHY

[Anonymous No.30056202]

>>30054208
Don’t really care either way

[Anonymous No.30056478]

>>30055294
>maxine waters asked someone why they can't get a refund if a stock they bought went down in price
no she didn't.

[Anonymous No.30056527]

>>30052446
Taking advantage of the buyback is manual while dividends are automatic. So you have to be an active trader to take advantage of it before it goes back to normal.

[Anonymous No.30056709]

>>30053334
>two percent?
>what are you bitching about three percent for?
>can’t you see that a five percent tax would help the taxpayers?