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Scooptram Apu Edition

>Why Gold?

>Bullion dealers
https://jmbullion.com/ (US)
https://goldsilver.be/en/ (BE/EU/UK)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)
more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

Russian/European coins
https://oldsilver.ru/ (EU/UK/US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ [Much cheaper than BullionByPost]
https://goldprice.eu5.net/ [Website to compare gold prices for UK]

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info

https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)


>Bullion tax info by state:


Nitric Acid

>Guide for Precious Metal Newfrens

Previous thread:

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>> No.30029822

How do you register an llc?

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I am metallurgically ruined.

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>> No.30029862

Just walk into the store, ask to see the manager, shake his hand firmly, and tell him "I'd like an LLC please"

>> No.30029873

Milchwagen hier jungs.

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Fixed it for ya

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Thanks for baking, Pan Man.

>> No.30029951

Also let's talk Eskay mining. They have a shit load of debt, 50 million. Where's the value in that company? They're just an explorer.

Also a note from earlier thread but aurcana is a complete shit company. Their reserves are tiny, smaller than bayhorse. I even think the shit was sub one million if I recall. You guys aren't even looking into this stuff. All of the aurcana people are just desperate for a moonshot so they take the first sub dollar stock handed to them and then cling onto it like a religion, justifying and desperately hoping the entire way. Like the bayhorse fags did six months ago before bayhorse started becoming something worth investing in. It's lazy imo.

>> No.30029964

Make sure you mention you’ll be paying in cash with a very over gestured wink

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Be honest, /pmg/. Where is the low on gold and silver?

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Will Ivan ever lower the price of his St George Russia coins to at LEAST $40 each?

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Now this is what I browse /pmg/ for

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1400 and 20

>> No.30030083

where did all the links to dealers go? y just jm wtf

>> No.30030115

>out of stock
I bought the last 4

>> No.30030126

Jesus Pan Man you must be tired

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>> No.30030151

Also, just for shits and giggles, let's play a game if anyone's interested.

1.What is your favorite metal? Gold, silver, platinum, copper, uranium etc? And why?

2. What is your favorite bullion/coin and why?

3. What is your favorite miner and why?

Bonus: where do you see the economy in six months and do you have any price predictions?


1. Gold. It's just beautiful. I really like copper though.

2. Brittanias. I just love them. I also love hand poured bars of anything silver or gold.

3. Silver one. No debt. American jurisdiction. 30 million ounces indicated, just sitting on heap leach pads and they have a big ass mine they haven't even started developing yet. Couple million in cash. They will produce the heap pads in the next month or so and develop the mine within the next two years.

Bonus, I think we will have hyper inflation in six months and the stock market will have imploded, but that depends on if the fed is going to do massive printing or not around that time but I don't think it cna go on much longer. I see gold and maybe silver going down lower over the next six months but after that gold will go to $2300 and silver will go to$70 at least.

>> No.30030158

Very semitic of you posting booba.

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>giving priceless PM to women
There is a shit ton of hype and shill on ESK. Not saying its unfounded but the MC is high and debt too, not my taste. Plenty of other gold plays.

>> No.30030165

1400s. Possible overshoot to 1200s at which point you should load up. I don't see it dipping below that on account of novo era in monetary policy. Just too much money floating out there right now, some of it bound to flow to our backwater.

>> No.30030168

When to expect it?

>> No.30030188

these threads are shit now, oh well we had a comfy couple of weeks

>> No.30030214

I squatted 400 pounds tonight. Going for 405 this week.

>> No.30030239

Yea, everything overun with newfags or shills

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This current era will be remembered for its malicious perversion of reality. It will never be this low again.

>> No.30030249

Fuck you. I'm trying.

>> No.30030275

Im going to a coin store for my first time tomorrow to try to scope out some junk silver/ase's. I own no silver. Main question being, has this general seen a massive uptick due to the silver squeeze campaign?

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It's the shakeout before the moon mission to get out of short futures and go long and to shakeout retail and paper reddit hands
How long will they need to slam it down to accumulate? Who knows. May be a few years actually.
Those who buy PM's for the right reasons (savings) will do well and get cheapies during this time while the kikes load up their bags. Speculators and purchasers of bullish (((derivatives))) however are going to get absolutely roasted.

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>> No.30030335

>Main question being, has this general seen a massive uptick due to the silver squeeze campaign?
Yes, for like 3 days a few weeks ago.

>> No.30030339

>Also, just for shits and giggles, let's play a game if anyone's interested.
Sure, why not
>1.What is your favorite metal? Gold, silver, platinum, copper, uranium etc? And why?
Silver. Because I'm poor.
>2. What is your favorite bullion/coin and why?
American Silver Eagle. Because I'm a retarded burger that still believes in the American spirit before it was trampled by kikes and niggers
>3. What is your favorite miner and why?
I don't know much about the actual mining. I just buy silver, hold it in my hands, and smile

It gets slow during Euro hours so people start talking about all kinds of stupid shit. And the cryptokeks and the anti-physical shills certainly don't help

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we have discussed why Aurcana isnt the best company a few times now due to their shady financials, especially the extra private placement that they did without explanation to investors. Aurcana's RV mine still does look appealing to me just on the fact it has so much existing and modernized infrastructure already in place, but that wont help anything if management / corporate shoots themselves in the foot doing deals without informing share holders.

As for Eskay, their value is primarily in their ground, they are an old school project generator. who find, prove up and than option, partner or sell properties to developers who finally bring projects into production. They weathered the last bear market poorly taking on major debt to keep their land position intact. Their SIB and other projects are directly on trend with the original Eskay fault, which was one of Canda's greatest silver and gold mines in the 90s, and their drilling is starting to show that their targets are likely going to be very similar to Eskay as well. The issue they will run into is finding a buyer or partner. Eskay could join up with Skeena when they have the original Eskay Creek mine in operation, other than that they need to start courting a developer for their prospects or they wont be making money any time soon.

>> No.30030378

What's the fourth line below bullion dealers retard ?

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>> No.30030384

I haven’t been on since the squeeze but I can tell you feel out your coin shop. Check prices before hand online to get a general feel for certain coins and see what the coin shop is offering. My local “metals exchange” (as he calls it) gives much better premiums than online so I lucked out. But feel out the guy who runs the shop. Good luck.

>> No.30030388

Great thats calming, makes me in less of a rush to buy something tomorrow.

>> No.30030408

Meant to post this too Conan the Barbarian music https://youtu.be/1_xgecR0ifo

>> No.30030412

what the hell did i screw up now, I could have swarn i fixed all the links. I must be fucked, ok someone else bake next time i am going to get ready for bed

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Any insights as to why aftermath was dumping so hard today? Tried to buy the juicy dip but didn't get filled

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gnite you beautiful bastards. May your stacks be ever taller

>> No.30030454

Nvm you did the pastebin you did good

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>> No.30030465

I thought you meant uptick in thread posts

if you mean uptick in silver buying, my understanding is that's still ongoing. Most coin dealers are out of silver at spot afaik.

>> No.30030578

For taking delivery through PSLV or COMEX, do you have to go through your broker ?

>> No.30030589

I did mean that. I accept that there will be fat premiums also I'll be going in knowing what I want and its price. I'd love to grab 5 ase's as a starter baby stack.

>> No.30030609

>American Silver Eagle. Because I'm a retarded burger that still believes in the American spirit before it was trampled by kikes and niggers

Totally feel you.

>I don't know much about the actual mining. I just buy silver, hold it in my hands, and smile

Fair enough and based. Make happy bro.

>> No.30030628 [DELETED] 

lol, this niggers want to spaml fucking rubbish on /biz/
I don’t trust this shill
>SWG and BSC
>This is our future

>> No.30030636

Check online prices before, and see if you can get him to price match. Provident currently had the lower prices among other dealers.

>> No.30030638

I'm going to have to look into this but I'm very concerned about the debt. I'll be looking into how they plan to get out of that. Maybe I'll send them an email.

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Iridium? firmament metal

Jesu Whips the Kikes 10oz bar in picrel

Don't have favorite. Boliden is cool though; only mine with stores of gold-telluride.

Down. Tellurium slightly up but not realized potential; thus copper/zinc refineries, and cadmium/potash producers will rise.

>> No.30030678

>Jesu Whips the Kikes 10oz bar in picrel

Nice. Definitely have been wanting that one.

>> No.30030683

silver. The intrinsic properties make it harder to spend quickly and easier to distribute than Gold.
Tokelau icon for retarded shit. Otherwise its probably the scottsdale 10 oz silver stacker, 1oz Britannia, or kinebars.
Barrick because it only keeps on getting cheaper and fucking cheaper.
Uncharted territory. Huge fallout or unrest due for May and June. Prices might be in the shit, but physical will be even more expensive and scarce. The bull case for pmg will never seem more promising nor be more obvious.

>> No.30030691

shiny rocks gonna drop below 1350 this year. screencap this

>> No.30030698

>Iridium? firmament metal
wat mean?

>> No.30030716

So what's in the bags on the left and what's the powder in the vials?

>> No.30030721

their only way out would be to find a partner or option their land, I agree its not great for a company to have that kind of burden but they have weathered worse.

>> No.30030727

Yeah, I'd be surprised if they have ASE's in stock but it could happen.
also this

>> No.30030741

Why are the most interesting powders white, and why do they have such varying compositions but still remain white?

>> No.30030752

So that kind of thing is survivable?

>> No.30030784

imagine going to a lcs and being mistaken for a redditor. fuck that shit. i’m almost embarrassed to be a silverbug desu

>> No.30030822

coin stores are mostly for collectors, they don't have a huge respect for any bullion buyers to begin with.

>> No.30030865

>silver below 1350
Very possible, I think after we rocket up to $2000/oz there will be a correction.

>> No.30030906

yep very survivable. it might just take a while thats all. The more they can prove up their ground the better for them, this is the key. If a company say like Barrick heard that another Eskay Creek style mine was found just down the road from the first one they operated, they could be enticed to partner up with Eskay. The only way thats happening though is with consistently good core results. Either way i am not too worried about them.

>> No.30030955

Let them think you are reddit
Let everybody think you are reddit
If you made it tell them it was because of reddit

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iridium is the metal that makes up the firmament.
>round earther confirmed

Tellurium and Thorium Oxide, respectively
If you're referring to drugs, organic molecules generally have to be larger so they can have both solubility and lipophilicity. Larger molecules will tend to scatter light in more directions and have more residues that absorb a variety of wavelengths, thus white
to-be pharmacist here

>> No.30030966

thanks all. I likely wont buy anything unless its close to what I can get online but im mostly just interested in seeing an actualy coin shop. I live like 30m from cracktown usa so theres a fuckton of coin shops. Im going to the once I've chosen based on goggles reviews and its closeish proximity to me.

>> No.30030968

I mean, imagine walking into ANY store and saying "I don't care about quality, I just want the cheapest thing you've got."

they'll probably sell you something but you're not going to be their favorite customer or anything.

>> No.30030972

nice try but im not touching that virus link fag

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So what exactly will it take for grocery stores to have empty shelves and niggers to be fighting over a can of beans on the fucking street?
How should l prep for this?

>> No.30031000

>South Africa has around 50% of the world's reserves of gold estimated to exist in the world
>They extract this by pouring it over a literal fucking towel

>> No.30031019

Excellent taste.

>> No.30031034

also I should mention this from a little while ago. This is very interesting https://www.juniorminingnetwork.com/junior-miner-news/press-releases/456-tsx-venture/esk/94055-numerous-new-precious-metal-rich-vms-targets-emerge-across-eskay-mining-s-district-land-holdings.html

Lots of interesting new targets to explore through stream sed sampling, with similar signatures to other nearby deposits which mirror the original eskay mine.

>> No.30031092

man, being invested in pm's can be so disappointing. basically everything bad that i thought might happen a year ago has happened, yet my pm related investments have got crushed by shitty stocks that lose money and internet hash values.

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I just don't get it, l how can a continent with so many rich natural resources be so fucking poor and stupid?
But how have they even managed to exist for hundreds of years without dependency on the white man?

>> No.30031136

Checked and yep, thats artisanal mining for you. Using mercury and basic gear like this generates a fairly pure dore metal but they dont capture more than 75% of the microscopic metallic gold. This is poverty mining, and the metal likely never reaches the government either, its smuggled out in trade for guns and drugs.

To be honest their tech is not much more advanced than what guys like i use for high grade gold processing.

>> No.30031162

Are you understanding the inherent frustration of Austrian economists now?
You can be right about the misallocation of resources, but the market can remain stupid and euphoric way longer than you can remain solvent.

>> No.30031170

They do that in south america too. I like it, it's wild west style mining. That mercury is straight up killing them all but not as fast as rival gangs of claimjumpers.

>> No.30031194

Goldman Sachs downgraded gold this morning and they are bastards because they were The largest takers on the comex three days ago

>> No.30031228

I read that today. Very interesting.

In your knowledge, how much can a good land package go for? What kinds of things can they do to make it more appealing? Are we talking hundreds of millions or tens of millions?

>> No.30031245

Sometimes I wonder if there's no other way than redpilling the normies on the JQ. They seem to be materialistic/nihilistic but they just don't seem to understand rationalistic self interested buy low, sell high or a good deal when they see one. They are completely programmable. If the price of silver is suppressed they just think people don't want to buy it so the price is low.

>> No.30031251

thats what i never get either, its fucking mercury and you see kids mashing concentrates with their feet to work the mercury in. No gloves or even plastic bags, they obzorb the mercury and their fucked. Most arent even that desperate, its just how its done in those parts. I remember Barrick gold got into a massive amount of trouble because one of their shipments of mercury was stolen by locals in Peru, and the local peasants were drinking the stuff!!

>> No.30031261

They'd actually probably like that because they can remove inventory that hasn't been selling that way.

>> No.30031285 [DELETED] 

>see alts are red
>ready to buy low
>add extra cash
>buy stupid trashtoken
>cry everywhere that he was fucked lol

I can't take it anymore, lil dumb look at ENQ, stop going into this shitmodel. See nodes, mining other features. get income without risk

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>the price of my investment went up so I'm right
how do you beat this argument?

>> No.30031297

As far as I can see south america is much more advanced since the gold is more dilute, this is just absurd. He works all day to get that tiny bag of materials then he actually gets a good amount of gold out of it. The whole area is just extremely rich in resources and they still manage to fuck it up and make 15 dollars for an entire day of work.
I guess the question is what does it taste like?

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>drinking mercury

>> No.30031302

You have to realize how dumb the normal person is. We are twelve steps ahead of them and they are going to have to go through each realization painfully one by one. The first realization is " oh wow, corana was a total hoax and we've been paying people money not to work and that makes the economy look really good when it isn't."

>> No.30031346

>the local peasants were drinking the stuff!!
holy shit! That's awesome!

I remember 10 or 20 years back nat geo did a study on miners in brazil. They had them copy a simple pattern on a piece of paper when they first came to camp. And then had them copy the same diagram every six months after. The diagrams got worse and worse until they were just scribbles because of the mercury poisoning. In a year or less you're completely insane in one of those operations. Absolutely amazing what people will do.

>> No.30031371


i've been invested in pm's since 2009, when i timed the bottom, but i was just starting out, and had a small amount invested. i tend to do an okay job getting into miners are good prices, so i have a fair amount of unrealized gains, but everytime i get into physical (2011 and 2020) that seems to mark a top.

>> No.30031378

>I guess the question is what does it taste like?
salty pennies and milk

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You don't. Literally normans see things completely materialistically/numerically they don't look any deeper.
>Number go up mean this good
>Number go down mean this bad
The only way is waking them up to the JQ. Maybe you can do that by showing them the manipulation but it doesn't seem that effective to me so far

>> No.30031386

>Normie Investments

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Alright.. which one of you anons is running the scottsdalemint account.

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>> No.30031415

Theyre not the same type of investment. Bitcoin is a speculative asset and gold is wealth preservation and a hedge against inflation. Do you really think that people, average laymen have any REAL faith in bitcoin? If things got bad enough, do you think bitcoin is still sitting pretty at $50k? Of course not. Gold and bitcoin do not do the same thing, anyone telling you they do is a complete fucking moron. Dont hesitate to get rich on cryptos but have an exit plan, take your profits, and secure your wealth with more stable + long tern investments.

>> No.30031416

1. It works until it doesn't.
2. This time is different.

Pretty much all you need to say to anyone with a modest amount of economic/investing knowledge.

>> No.30031434

I need to get my mercury fillings replaced with gold or composite

>> No.30031456

>They'd actually probably like that because they can remove inventory that hasn't been selling that way.
Nah, they aren't required to keep bullion around. If they have some they chose to buy it. And most do. But it's not like they make a lot of money off it. Some dude spending thousands on numismatics is going to make them WAY more money than a bullion buyer spending the same amount. Margins are much higher on collectible coins than on rounds, bars, and junk.

>> No.30031458

You never outright sell a land package, as a prospector you want to keep between 5%-15% of total ownership in a property, or you take a 15% NSR (net smelter return) on the project. This generates cash flow if a project turns into an operating mine, and keeps you involved in any future business that happens with the project, cutting you automatically into future deals or transactions. A potential investor / option taker on a prospect or land package wants to see drill results first and foremost, they want to see good or at least lots of promising results that can be repeated. Thats the main thing anyone buying ground wants.

As for how much something like thats worth, its very hard to say, every deal is different but these major deals, for example the original Eskay mine, went for $150 million right off the get go if i recall correctly, and than subsequent financing brought it to $500 million in the end. Double check that though its been a while. Developing a mine is not cheap, especially from scratch. If someone wants to get into Eskay's ground their going to need serious backing to do so.

>> No.30031500

there's more mercury in the average Red Lobster dinner than in all your fillings.

>> No.30031526

>demonetization of the precious metals asset class
I hold crypto but seeing shit like this makes me want to short it at 100x, goddamn what a stupid thing to say.

>> No.30031538

>Approximately half (50%) of dental amalgam is elemental mercury by weight

>> No.30031559

the locals think mercury has medicinal effects, and no amount of preaching that it doesnt from health officials will stop Andean grand mothers from feeding it to their grand children. Its suppose to make them strong.
yep mercury will fuck you up hard core, its permanent too, people dont get that. Once you have it, its with you for ever.

>> No.30031598

you should be ok mate, if its dental amalgam its pretty well harmless.

>> No.30031605

The value of pms is based on their elementary nature
You cant produce them in an exotermic fission or fusion, that whats makes them rare and synthesizeing them is not feasible
Also they have unique properties that will always make them useful in technologies
>asteroid mining fud
There may be lots of pms on asteroids compared to earth, but that is an unfair comparison
If you compare the ammount of pms on asteroids to the ammount of materials in the universe pms stay very rare elements
At the point where asteroid mining is feasible humanity will start to colonize the stars and will be in need for far far more materials than it is now
>also wait for evs to be common, then when plat comes down buy

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>> No.30031647

Maybe, but I also don't like that they impact the dentin and compress it. Composite has the same thermal expansion coefficient as the tooth and bonds to the surface of the tooth creating a better seal than mercury amalgam

>> No.30031672

what happens is after the amalgam is mashed into place the mercury evaporates off the top layer leaving very little of it exposed. So you'll get a small spike of mercury in your blood for a few days after a new filling is placed.

once the top layer is dried of mercury the remainder is locked into the filling, it doesn't leak out. So you have essentially 0 exposure after the filling has hardened. Even though there's still a significant amount of mercury in the filling, it can't get out unless the tooth is broken or the filling removed.

>> No.30031687

I feel kinda salty because i put cash down on a 1oz gold Krug at my LCS on thursday, and agreed to pay the rest and pick it up on tuesday.
I'd held off buying for a year, after watching the price skyrocket post initial covid panic, i felt like the 1700s seemed to be a reasonable stable price zone given that the economy isnt really recovered in any true sense. Then Friday it went down, and though it didnt dump today, it did lose another $10.
I know i really shouldnt be worried about such a small 'loss' but the fact that i have to go pay out at prices from last thursday while price may be dropping farther by tomorrow, and i waited a whole damn year, really grinds my gears.

Oh well. never selling. Stack on.

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Opinion ? Almsot everyone recommend an ETF-style portfolio while most PMG recommend a heavy position and limited size of PF. I honestly think both are good answer but it depend of your PF. The bigger your capital, the lower your % size needs to be so you can diversify. 2% of 5k is nothing in the end so no real gains.

>> No.30031763

Mark my words when we become space explorers were going to find out that the gold standard is universal. also fuck the joozians and their quantum currency.

>> No.30031799

PMs as currency again
Is there any realistic hope in the future you think?

I can imagine them being used for large informal deals such as property sales between individuals as happens in some asian countries

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Gay, buy physical instead.
>Silver mining penny stocks
Massive leverage during a bull run.

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>PMs as currency again
Our only hope

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Read this.
It should answer a few of your questions

>> No.30031886

The US got around that by not taxing property sales. We tax your property every year based on what we think it's worth. You have the right to dispute what we think it's worth, but you need to provide evidence.

what you payed for it doesn't matter at all since the purchase isn't taxed.

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inorganic mercury won't really bother you, especially if it's just on your skin. its the organically bound mercury that fuck you

>> No.30031893

>PMs as currency again
>Is there any realistic hope in the future you think?

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can someone post the /pmg stacker tier list?

>> No.30031921

I pointed this out to /sci/ in 2012 by jacking off with mercury and posting pics

>> No.30031928

I just recently found out that they put methylmercury in dog vaccines as a preservative

>> No.30031944

yes but its still not a good idea to be around the stuff all the time without protective gear.

>> No.30031960

I love the tech and in love with crypto not really because of money but coz of the unique features every new project gives..

I just found a gem its looks unique lets see how they work on it

Plz share with me more good projects.

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In first world countries?
Lol, no.
Prepare your anus for a digital dollar.

>> No.30032010

This is not even unreasonable but i doubt there will be a monetary standard, i think intergalactic trade will be based on barter, but the elements between fe and pb will have the most value of all elements

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Pictures of best looking coins guys?
I could use some more inspiration for coins to look out for.

>> No.30032026

Yeah, elemental mercury can enter the bloodstream through cuts and abrasions. Especially with chronic exposures. You don't want to be amalgamating cons with your kid's feets

>> No.30032053

check with your local Bass Pro Shop, ask for licensing department.

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you will own bugs eat nothing and you will be happy

>> No.30032065

how do i find places to dig out big ass rocks of gold out of the ground? i dont want to pan shit for specks

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>> No.30032092

if i could suck on those milkers for a day id trade all my crypto

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I think cash (paper money) is on the way out, digital alternatives do the same job as paper but way better.

As for coins I’m unsure, they are unwieldily for sure at times but having spent time in Japan and Hong Kong I’ve seen how coins + digital can work very well together (coins are nice to have for regular small purchases, and digital for other payments).

I can possibly imagine a situation where we have a PM coinage for daily spending combined with a crypto digital payment system and both being convertible between each other.

For this to work though the value of silver/gold would have to decline or else people will just melt the coins (that was the issue in 1965)

I can imagine it being possible for the mint to keep the melt value of the coins roughly equivalent to the value of the Crypto FedCoin

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mmm silicone

>> No.30032167

yep. once you fuck back off we can have our threads back.

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sounds hot, got any pics?

yikes (((they))) are trying to kill your dogs mate

oh yeah still bad with cuts

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check the OP mate under prospecting. Your going to want to find a known area with gold bearing quartz veins. Thats the easiest way to get gold, by free milling it from a vein. Now your issue is that most of that kind of grounds already staked, so your going to need to do some leg work to find your own spot. Hell this guy on Vancouver Island found a fantastic one by accident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfLEAdntWlk&t=8s

There is plenty of reading material out there on how to prospect for gold this way, also Askjeffwilliams on Youtube has you covered.

>> No.30032219

>yikes (((they))) are trying to kill your dogs mate
It's in our vaccines too

>> No.30032230

thank fucking god, melt dam it MELT!

>> No.30032232

Enjoy your digital tattoo.

>> No.30032254

>oh yeah still bad with cuts
where most of those guys get their poison is shown in the video itt

they're roasting amalgam with a torch or campfire and breathing the vapors right off the crucible. Mad as hatters.

>> No.30032284

Imagine unironically reading msm articles and thinking you've learned anything. "You're losing wealth, and that's a good thing!" Fuck this gay earth, dude

>> No.30032302

More fresh water is good for the acidity of the oceans. Sleep well algae frens

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>> No.30032325

>You're losing wealth, and that's a good thing!
I mean technically if you own a house you're gaining wealth, and most murricans own a house so this is great for most of us.

>> No.30032328

Women apply makeup to their tits to distort your depth perception and make them appear larger than they are. It's called "contouring" and you can tell when it's done because of the strong contrast between the "highlight" inverted triangle above the tits and the darker "shadow" on the inner portion of the tits themselves. This usually goes hand in hand with being a complete disgusting roastie slut, and will include other features such as completely fake eyebrows, platinum blonde hair but dark roots, and a pound of makeup on the face.

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Daily remember : your old gold coins need a comfy case

>> No.30032351

why does pure gold and silver look like candy? I want to bite into it

>> No.30032365

>More fresh water is good for the acidity of the oceans.

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Hey guys, are there any good books out there that talk about the mass culling of humanity?
I want to read up on some books that go into depth on why normies are gonna start dropping like fucking flies as soon as Bill Gates rolls out his new vaccine.

>> No.30032430

did you miss corona? the first thing panicky people do is empty the grocery stores

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Only green is vangold, everything I bought was the top. It take a lot of training to do that, praise me pmg.

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That's impressive

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you need gold to mine bitcoin

>> No.30032481

>new better tech comes along
>bitcoin goes to zero over night

>gold has had value since the dawn of time
>gold will have value forever even in heaven
God didn’t pave the streets of heaven with Bitcoin

>> No.30032530

You need a fuckin lot of RAM or processors to have a significant quantity of gold. It's not profitable unless you're a pro

>> No.30032532

Yeeah but l live out in Suburbia so food is back in stock and things are going fine.
I guess lm thinking in a total hypothetical scenario where food won't be delivered to grocery stores until months at a time.

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yeah that's why I don't get vaccines anymore (unless I need it for school --> eventual income)

damn. literally

its about the desalination that destroys ocean currents. will actually lead to europe freezing over.
just realized this but that'll lead to all the nigs leaving for warmer weather and europe will once again be home for whities. thats why (((they))) don't want global warming

>> No.30032571

The Bible

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>want to take advantage of the low spot price
>theres no fucking silver available

perth mint has NO physical silver available, even in their allocated vaults. there is major fucking kikery at play here.

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Nighty night time for me lads

>> No.30032599

>and thats a good thing
>studies show
>is (insert a good idea) racist?
>why (insert sexual perverse or comically foolish idea) is here to stay
Journos swing from the rope last

>> No.30032639

well thats why the price has to rise. no one is recycling this because its not economically feasible anymore. same with copper, silver, platinum.

>> No.30032661

Digital money and cash both serve the same purpose of aiding speedy commerce, there is no innate reason why it has to be an instrument of oppression.
I do realize that the trend for the last 100 years has been towards taking wealth away from the middle and lower classes but there is no reason to do away with objectively superior methods of commerce and transaction.

For all the doomsayers, it is entirely possible to have a PM supported national crypto combined with silver/gold coinage

The biggest issue for the US having PM currency was that foreign countries kept using USD to take American gold

And for me as a non-american, I’d be happy to use an inter-national trade dollar as well as a national PM backed currency

>> No.30032669

Once you start getting rolling black outs, just be prepared for some fuckery. Guns and ammo is a must, no point in hoarder gold or silver if billy bob with a musket can rob you

also shoot every nigger 3 times

>> No.30032712

>unless I need it for school --> eventual income
I dropped out because academia sucks and college culture is hell. Also
>Allowing foreign substance to permeate your skin for future currency

>> No.30032742

>no one is recycling this because its not economically feasible anymore.
It never was. North America has always sent its electronics scrap to china because environmental laws make it almost impossible to make money here
>same with copper, silver, platinum.
those we actually process domestically because they're worth it. At least in non-electronics forms.

>> No.30032774

How does the government determine price of a property ?

>> No.30032805

>It never was.
so you admit it is a sink for the gold commodity ?

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god I fucking love bimbos

>> No.30032828

>How does the government determine price of a property ?
by asking banks and sellers how much the property sold for and then averaging that cost over a number of similar sales to find a price per foot that houses are selling for. Then applying that per/foot cost to the known footage of your particular house.

>> No.30032852

Of course it is systematically POSSIBLE to do that. Anything is POSSIBLE if you have the will to do it. The problem is that digital stuff is used for slavery now and the will of the people is to be enslaved by the slavers

>> No.30032860

>That's not a Merc Dime anon don't raise the price

>> No.30032869

somebody will get that gold, but it probably won't be north american recyclers.

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>PM supported national crypto
Do you honestly thing that the deep state would allow such a thing to exist?
The only thing that's going to come of it is Fedcoin and digital tattoos.

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>15 posts of fear mongering and doomposting


>> No.30032909

You don't. The idea of 'this is worth more therefore it is the better investment' is retarded. Practically everyone "missed out" on Bitcoin. A select few made a shit ton, some made a bunch, more made some, and the rest are now fighting to try to emulate it again. Just because 12 people bought 1000 for $12 and held it doesn't mean it's the best investment in the world. Crypto has a place in a portfolio, of course, but so do hard, physical assets. A 500sqft patch of land in San Francisco that homeless people shit on and shoot heroin on is worth more than 1 bitcoin and 1kg of gold. Shoulda bought that land instead of a dumb rock and fake coin, right? It's worth more so it's better right?

Gold is wealth preservation. No one is trying to get rich off of gold. Everyone is trying to get rich off of Bitcoin. No one's thinking "I'm going to put extra money into bitcoin and never touch it ever again!". Those are the people watching the lines go up and down every single day, trying to profit tomorrow. You buy a gold coin today and sit on it, it'll be worth more when you eventually sell it. That's all gold advertises it does, and all it's proven to do.

>> No.30032931

Im actually astonished people havent started getting killed yet.

>> No.30032954

Just clip them off HODL until all the silver is mined and no-coiners have to go through scrap trash for this

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>academia sucks
word brother
thankfully my school has no college culture, no sports, no campus, libs drop out bc all the majors are too hard

>> No.30032988

>value of something most people already own goes up
yeah no. People are getting rich off inflation. More people than are losing off it.

>> No.30032997

Keeping savings in Bitcoin long-term is retarded. Crypto may have value in the future, Bitcoin and ETH are too expensive to make transactions and too volatile.

>> No.30033023

Congratulations! Remember to hydrate and read a book. I'm working my way through Aurelius' Meditations and back up to 5 mile hikes.

>> No.30033035

This is only possible if the printed dollars are distributed to more than half of the population

>> No.30033040

do you actually think we cant tell you are a fucking kike shill? do you ACTUALLY think you are blending in here?

these threads completely fucking suck now

>> No.30033057

False. The average household income in the USA is around 60k/yr and thats calculated at two incomes per household. The cost of goods goes up by 5% per year. Americans are becoming poor, rapidly. Very few people comparitively speaking are in this middle class of investments and cypto gains.

>> No.30033069

Idk, it would not take too much political will to reform the currency again
There are enough people in many countries who would like to do so.

The biggest issue is the global monetary system was set up this way and now people are unsure how to dismantle it/replacing it without everything blowing up.

International commerce is not going anywhere and neither is the need for fast liquid transactions.
Cash serves no purpose today but PMs still can
Again a country with significant PM reserves would have no trouble creating a crypto and pegging it to the value of PMs while still retaining the security and liquidity cryptocurrency provides.

Having silver/gold coinage as well would provide a lot of psychological security for the people as well since coins are very tactile and the value is apparent.

I could imagine a country like Russia who has a vested interest in opposing the international monetary system doing something like this.

Who knows, in the future Russian Rubles could be like Krugerrands and banned in all western nations because they represent a genuine store of value as well as a safe secure currency.

Alternatively I can imagine some African nation or trade union doing something like this

>> No.30033072

In those peoples' eyes, number go up mean thing good. Those that hold actual assets will hold strong, because they decided to put their dollars into anything but dollars. This will widen the class divide, and lead more people to drag down the remaining middle class homeowners to their level, only succeeding in killing the middle class more. Property ownership will be viewed as a sign of the "rich".

>> No.30033079

>More people than are losing off it.
This is wrong and you know it. Asset inflation only helps those with the most assets.

>> No.30033083

nah, they're not getting rich off the dollar dole

I'm still talking about everyone that owns a home and can expect it to almost double in dollar value in the next 10 years without them doing a damn thing. Same applies to you guys with your metals. Inflation is going to drive up the price and probably the value as well.

>> No.30033091
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Octopuses do not have any bones with the exception of their beaks. So if you are responsible and depraved enough to be literally the life support of your 8 limbed friend, you can debeak it like how you’d declaw a cat and then push your member into its feed chute.

You can then let it subsist on your baby batter.

The Octopus is smart. Very smart. It will learn that without its beak, it cannot feed on anything else but your human seed that has to be milked from you.

Every morning, you will feel your clothes slide off and a damp weight on your lower half.

The sensation creeps up on your body until most of the jiggly mass has enveloped the entire length. It will start pumping as fast as it can for it is hungry.

The animal gyrates its empty stomach and the folds of its brain rubbing on your glands, begging for nutrition.

You climax and give the marine creature’s breakfast. The pumping slows down but doesn’t stop to milk out the last few drops of its meal.

Looking into its yellow animal eyes, it looks back with a thousand-yard stare. This will be routine for all of its meals for the rest of its 3-5 years on this god forsaken planet.

>> No.30033105

i think so, too. the silvermarket is even more interesting with industrial demand.

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I don’t believe in a deep state and I think what is more likely is the economy will collapse and people will just start using whatever local/state currency until order can be restored.

Remember to hold onto your Goldbacks

>> No.30033150

>do you ACTUALLY think you are blending in here?
I've never tried to blend in with you apes.
>these threads completely fucking suck now
you must be new. I was posting here before these threads existed.
but most people own homes and the cost of that home isn't going up while the cost to pay it off is actually going down fast. And that whole time the house is increasing in value.

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>> No.30033170

This. If you're a guy that's just been saving your money for say, a house, that house is getting farther and farther away from you faster than the rate in which you can even make money. You are getting poorer as you make "more" money. I'd rather make $5/hr in a world where houses are $20,000 than make $30/hr in a world where houses are $750,000. The dollar will crash, it's inevitable. It's just a matter of when. Assets will hold their value because gold, silver, property, physical assets, fuck even cryptocurrencies are detached from the dollar.

>> No.30033176

>Asset inflation only helps those with the most assets.
or any assets

most americans own homes, and we know that inflation is making us rich because that's what it does.

>> No.30033184

This is fucking retarded. It doesnt matter if my house is worth a million, if when i sell all houses of comparable quality or size are also a million. My true wealth hasnt increased at all. Meanwhile goods are also increasing, so my paycheck doesnt go as far. Inflation is theft from everyone who actually works for a living.

>> No.30033206

I would sell claims for Gold Backs if they came into regular circulation.

>> No.30033224

>If you're a guy that's just been saving your money for say, a house, that house is getting farther and farther away from you faster than the rate in which you can even make money

less than half of americans are getting royally fucked because they don't own a house yet

more than half of us are getting rich because we do.

>> No.30033269

Exactly. Cryptocurrencies are a valid avenue to make money, they have proven to be such time and time again (though hit and miss with shitcoins and mega moon coins of course). Gold as an investment exists to slowly, steadily, and with low to practically no risk protect your money in extremities of hyperinflation, or just "normal" inflation. To compare the two is just plain retarded.

>> No.30033274

this but unironically

>> No.30033283

>value of silver/gold would have to decline or else people will just melt the coins
>shows Krugerrand in pic rel
You know that if PMs will become currency again there won't be any nominal values. 1 oz will be worth 1oz just like on Krugerrand.

>> No.30033288

>My true wealth hasnt increased at all.
in houses, no. You're right. But if houses go up in value faster than paychecks and are worth years of groceries you just got rich.
>Meanwhile goods are also increasing, so my paycheck doesnt go as far. Inflation is theft from everyone who actually works for a living.
again right, but money from real estate gains aren't working for a living. Same with metals or stocks for that matter.

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Matthew 10:34

>> No.30033334

>we know that inflation is making us rich because that's what it does.
Inflation isn't making homeowners rich. The debt on the house is. The modern paradigm is that the house is the liability and the debt is the asset when for decades it was the reverse.
That just makes everyone 1 housing bubble collapse from poverty.

>> No.30033336

You actually are retarded. The number of dollars is irrelevant if the purchasing power is the same or declines. My house is worth more, but if i sold my house i could only buy houses in the same class as my house. I gained nothing.

>> No.30033356

The art on them is great and they look beautiful, but I can’t imagine them being used daily like paper money, they would look like shit after a while.

Goldback type aurum bills are a dead end imo
Coins are better and have persisted for thousands of years for a reason

The big problem today is that inflation has made most small coins redundant.
A rebalanced currency where one cent, or .10 cents has value again could deal with this.

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>Number go up so this is good
Just because Bitcoin went up and some people saw Bitcoin at $1 and deemed it unworthy of investment doesn't mean that they were wrong. Bitcoin is another lie shoved down our throats, more sand in our eyes blinding us to the truth obfuscating true value, taking us further and further away from salvation. FUCK CRYPTO FUCK IT FUCK SHIT GODDAMNIT

>> No.30033411

You're also right, but 2/3 of the retards here don't understand that houses go up in value disproportionately to bread and coffee and gasoline. So I'm not going there just yet.

>> No.30033425

You seem to be arguing from the position of someone who has investment properties to liquidate while still living in an owned house, but then trying to argue that the current real estate inflation is great for the 67% of americans who just "own a house" as though the vast majority of people (again, average income is around 60k for a household with two incomes) own multiple houses. They dont. youre a fucking kike and one day you will get whats coming.

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Ok Doomer

>> No.30033448

agreed, though i could still see such "paper" type gold currency used for major purchases, your right after a while they would look like crap. Coins work because they last decades - centuries over paper money.

>> No.30033468

I guess you’re correct
If I know my .50c coin has 0.3oz of silver in it then products can be priced accordingly. It would allow more use of the smaller denominations of varying silver amounts.

Many people would have to adjust to dealing with such small amounts of currency then since we would go back to $1000 being a lot of money.

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Woah there anon, steady on. You might need some re-education. Your standard of living doesn't matter, only that the number on your shares, house and paycheck are going up.

>> No.30033481

Nope, single home owners are getting wealthy.

sure, they'd have to move to texas or some other third world shit hole to enjoy that wealth, but we already know that's happening.

>> No.30033489

More likely a retarded boomer.

>> No.30033505

>I gained nothing.
That's exactly the fucking point of it. The one homeowner is not supposed to gain, the 5 non-homeowners are supposed to get poorer. That's the game they're playing. You will see progressively higher property taxes as an attempt to separate you from what's yours in the future. Increased capital gains taxes, forced reassessment of value for adjustment of property tax payment, and a demonization of people like you that own a home as the "ruling class oppressing the renter class".

>> No.30033506

This should be the end of discussion because it's correct. Enough said

>> No.30033545

It seems very likely to me than China could avoid going full retard and have the world reserve currency by default when most others implode. I don't think it would need to be gold backed either, Xi could just say they've learned from the last crisis. Sure we want sound, decentralized money, but it's far from guaranteed.
Why are you guys acting like this is some blatantly obvious mistake? They're using an almost universally accepted economic theory, instead of our objectively fringe one. This isn't a problem with journalism, it's a problem with economics.

>> No.30033558

Idk how you all feel about jewelry like old class rings, but one thing that makes me mad is balfour’s proprietary silver/palladium alloy. I want to know what their ratio is or was, since palladium is worth almost 4x what it was when I was in high school

>> No.30033567

>You're also right, but 2/3 of the retards here don't understand that houses go up in value disproportionately to bread and coffee and gasoline.
And this paradigm is from the infinite money taps from the Fed that started as a trickle in the 90s, a fire hose in 2008, and an endless tsunami in 2020 onward. No country on the planet has been able to sustain it. There are japanese pensioners that have effectively been trapped in their real estate purchases since the 90s.
Is it tolerated insanity to have significant numbers of commerical and residential real estate live on borrowed time from forbearance agreements and for the real estate market to think its okay.

>> No.30033619

>in a thread about assets that outperform inflation
>get mad at other assets that outperform inflation
>get mad at inflation
you guys are funny. Dumb as bricks, but funny

>> No.30033635

Nobody sells their house to "cash out" on the gains they got through their house. If all houses are getting more expensive it just means that fewer and fewer people can own houses each generation. The people that own houses can sell their house and move to a new house but the new house will be the same quality as the last house because it was getting more expensive while the original house was getting more expensive.

>> No.30033660

>There are japanese pensioners that have effectively been trapped in their real estate purchases since the 90s
Explain pls

>> No.30033665

I assume it's chinese and other foreign investors picking up the slack, but yes. This too must eventually end. The problem is nobody wants it to end and when it does we're going to go back and do it all over again because it's amazingly comfy.

>> No.30033677

Houses shouldn't be speculative assets getting bid up by excessive debt financed by kike bankers specifically to make housing and family making unaffordable kys

>> No.30033681

thanks for the fingerprint osmium-san

>> No.30033704

That's because we have empathy you sociopathic retard. Just because we're smart enough to be able to recognise and attempt to avoid inflation doesn't mean inflation is a wonderful thing that ruins billions of lives.

>> No.30033717

>Nobody sells their house to "cash out" on the gains they got through their house.
Most of the people living in california in the 80's to 00's did exactly that.

sell your million dollar house in LA, retire like a god in OK. How have you failed to notice this? It's what america does now. We don't produce anything. We sell houses and move.

>> No.30033741

if you got married and worked jobs like your parents and grandparents did you'd have no trouble buying houses. I admit it's harder to do that now, but mostly because all you faggots fell for the propaganda saying that's bad.

>> No.30033789

Can somebody explain why gold and silver are getting hammered 6 days in a row?
What is official """reason"""? Are they just trying to shake out people or there is more behind it?
Should i buy now or wait for further decrease in price? Will dealers get restocked and lower premiums?

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>all you faggots fell for the propaganda saying that's bad.
Yes, the precious metals thread is full of people that are non-traditionalist, anti-women, anti-marriage, and anti-property ownership.

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no problem. It's not like I exist at this period in time anyway so it won't do you any good

>> No.30033819

1. Plat is heavy as fuck

2. Napoléons

>> No.30033836

>That's because we have empathy you sociopathic retard
>I'm forcing women to suck my dick for enough silver to survive someday!

you get so mad when it's you doing the sucking.

>> No.30033843

This is exactly what my Dads parents did. They bought a house in Gastown Vancouver in the 60s, than sold it for just over 3 million in 2015 and now live comfortably in their dieing days in a tiny apartment in Hawaii. Left a bunch of money for the rest of the family and just relax all day now.

>> No.30033869

>We don't produce anything. We sell houses and move.
Yeah well fuck that. Shove your overpriced real estate up your ass

>> No.30033890

>I'm forcing women to suck my dick for enough silver
That's not how prostitution works.

>> No.30033896

>Yes, the precious metals thread is full of people that are non-traditionalist, anti-women, anti-marriage, and anti-property ownership.
they get pretty riled up when you recommend marriage or buying houses

e.g. this thread.

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>jpm downgrades gold
>bond yields rising as foreign investors tell the Fed to fuck off
>natural pullback from going from 1500 to 2100 in a year
>crypto mooning and mainstream media blaring "GOLD IS DEAD SELL YOUR GOLD" 24/7
>reddit silver short getting slapped down
>absolute despair as the most bullish event imaginable for gold fails to give it any real gains while kids and drug dealers make tens of millions longing banana.finance
>massive inflation but housing, stocks, and any other asset class are outpacing gold by miles
pick any of the above

>> No.30033933

yep, I've made far more money owning a home for 20 years than I have working.

>Shove your overpriced real estate up your ass
hm, I don't think it'll fit.

>> No.30033952

u admitted it is harder to do now

>> No.30033965

>It's what america does now. We don't produce anything. We sell houses and move.
It is not just limited to houses.
Articles like this come out every few years about it:
China is in a unique position in that its major bubble is real estate alone. Being a universal creditor insulates you from the nonsense of the West.
>inb4 angry memers that I would compliment China on something
The point is that debt creates slavery.

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1) Gold because it's beautiful

2) Gold Napoléons, and silver Hercules

>> No.30034065

i mean its utterly retarded in a lot of places, that same home if it were sold in Terrace BC at the time would be lucky to get $60k out of it, but Vancouver's home bubble was so crazy that just about abandoned buildings were going for 500k. Its partially why so many fucking annoying twats moved up north from Victoria and Vancouver, and with them they jacked up every local house price as well.

>> No.30034078

>I've made far more money owning a home for 20 years than I have working.
Your house happened to be located in an area where lots of people wanted to be decades later, causing them to bid up the price of your house when you sold. This process of build up a community into a city until it is densely populated and then disperse once cost of living gets too high can only happen so many times until everywhere is a paved over concrete jungle. Don't you see that your investments and lifestyle financed by cheap debt from fed money printing is directly creating a worse world for future generations? Be honest.

>> No.30034089

Is there any point buying precious metals if I live in a country where I can't get a gun? Won't someone just take them if SHTF?

>> No.30034094

All of this sounds pretty bullish. FUD is real. They don't want us to buy. When price suppression fails and it will fail we will be laughing at current prices.

>> No.30034126

>u admitted it is harder to do now
yes, you guys are right to fear it because you're mostly conservatives. Jacking up the cost of living and then selling out is a liberal game and as you know it's already come to your areas. You're right to hate it, but most people don't agree because they joined what they could not fight.
>It is not just limited to houses.
I like your style. Succinct truth.
>The point is that debt creates slavery.
it's all a game. but you can't win it if you never play it.

>> No.30034165

Not if you hide it well and don't tell anyone

>> No.30034180

>it's all a game. but you can't win it if you never play it.
Big Bob? Is that you?

>> No.30034191

>Don't you see that your investments and lifestyle financed by cheap debt from fed money printing is directly creating a worse world for future generations? Be honest.
Money printing is the "cure" to the real poison to future generations: deficit spending. That is literally a loan taken from future generations for your benefit today.
Gold backed allocated tokens, equities, or Kinesis. Then the gold/silver is stored outside your country. Yes you don't hold it, but its better than being pillaged with it in hand.

>> No.30034217

Yeah, fortunately the US is full of undeveloped and uninteresting land to build on.
of course, but you guys will find a way to deal with that. I can't ethically tell you what needs to be done since some fraction of the population is guaranteed to lose out with whatever solution you come up with.

>> No.30034294

She told to be as quiet as I could because her parents were sleeping in the next room. Not even a whisper. So she got right down to business. She had me lie down as she put her hair in a ponytail and put her soft hands on my stomach. Her hands impossibly smooth. Like they spent their free time in a bottle of lotion. She slowly made her way down and unbuttoned my pants and took the zipper down. She got close and started kissing me, slowly inching down to my boxers and she gave my pants a purposeful tug. Revealing my member as she tried to hide a smile but couldn’t help it. She licked her lips and reminded me again, to be very quiet...

>> No.30034296

>Big Bob? Is that you?
>38 posts by this ID
>mostly about real estate
classic Big Bob, no?

>> No.30034311

>as inflation goes on they are shorted extensively
>price reaches 1/5 of current value
>system tips

>> No.30034332

I don't want to play the game that you're playing. I haven't even started life yet but I have already lost everything, and because of that I am truly free. Most of the new generations are like me.

>> No.30034363

>Money printing is the "cure" to the real poison to future generations: deficit spending. That is literally a loan taken from future generations for your benefit today.
What are you trying to say?

>> No.30034375

>Most of the new generations are like me.
I know, we were the same. You grow out of it right about the same time you learn how to make scads of cash

>> No.30034390

>deficit spending
It isn't bad per se. If all of deficit was invested it would be very beneficial for future generations.
But most of it goes to sustaining welfare and bureaucracy.
Hide it in safe places and get some weapons. Crossbow is best alternative to firearms.

>> No.30034407

After the fed meeting on Wednesday it was clear that the fed will maintain under .25% fed funds rate until end 2022. It’s also said by the fed that they plan to pump 120b a month into its own assets. That’s not that much compared to how bad it used to be and how bad even more money escapes the country and is locked in accounts and other stuff as well as the fact that most of the printed money is locked within the banks waiting for someone with good enough credit to come unlock it.

The real economy is the one that you live in and it will continue to be normal because as long as everyone that holds the freshly printed money holds onto that money, then it’s as if we don’t even have inflation or whatever you wanna call this. PM will not experience shit because in the real economy that PMs exist, there is no real inflation.

Nothing will change this year or the next. Maybe in ten years gold will be $300 cheaper per oz than it is now.

>> No.30034406

Yeah, unless you can't make scads of cash lmao

>> No.30034441

true, but most people eventually do. If we ever hit a point where most people can't the system will topple. But for now most people do.

>> No.30034446

You're an idiot

>> No.30034449

900 and 17. We're in a deflationary spiral.

>> No.30034475

The system creates scads of people who make scads of cash who make scads of people until the limits to growth are reached. Maybe you're right that there are still enough people left to satisfactorily exist within this system, maybe not.

>> No.30034487

Sorry you’re not comfy with the truth. I’m a stacker myself. I ha te this just as much as you do

>> No.30034515

I agree with this. However you wont find any physical for these prices anywhere.

>> No.30034520

thats what happened with this latest covid spending. bailing out failed states so they can continue to fail instead of letting them collapse and reform.

>> No.30034523

lol, this niggers wanna scaml fucking rubbish on /biz/
I don’t believe in this spam
>SWG and BSC
>That’s our future

>> No.30034527

>What are you trying to say?
The children, grand children, and maybe even the great grandchildren of the Boomers are the real "bagholders". The Boomers will all die well before any of the debt they racked up gets paid off.
>It isn't bad per se. If all of deficit was invested it would be very beneficial for future generations.
It never is because the government directs where it goes creating (1) market distortions and (2) rewarding the most well connected parties to the government (cantillon effect)
The real "power" of the central banks comes from its ability to effectively weaponize regional bank assets. That is also the source of its criminality.

>> No.30034531

>You're an idiot
he's right about a lot of that. I haven't seen banks this tight with cash for personal loans since '08. And all the business loans are going to payroll and overhead rather than expansion. Weird times.

>> No.30034539

The value of things in the real economy (gold silver) will be hyper inflated by things in the fake economy. I don't know what you're smoking

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What do you call this kind of volatility?

>> No.30034582

the more money people make the fewer babies they have. Or maybe it's the other way round. The fewer babies people have the more money they make.

either way we ran out of new people decades ago, that's why republicans and democrats have both allowed massive illegal immigration in the US. We need more people to keep the ponzi going.

>> No.30034660

>We need more people to keep the ponzi going.
True. We naturally limit our growth so as to enjoy the wealth we create instead of spreading it thin

>> No.30034674

They were already hyper inflated dude. Why are you so adamant that I’m wrong? Why do you think we went from 1200 to 2100 back down to 1700 in less than 5 years? Cause trump was an economics genius? Dude literally did what everyone always does and everyone but you saw it apparently. The price of gold reflected everything already. Why do you think we’re going down now? Cause fed said what I said.

Just think about it

>> No.30034686

1. Palladium because it's hydrogen permeable which is a really cool feature.

2. Mexican libertads or .9999 maples

3. Bayhorse because paying dividends in silver is a Chad move.

>> No.30034748

If we have hyperinflation I think you're going to see a big sell-off as Banks and large institutional holders try and spook the markets and stop people from flooding into PMs and to get cash for themselves and I think that's going to dip gold probably to around 12 or 1300 and you might see sub $20 silver. After hyperinflation happens in people are aware of it I fully expect silver to pass $100 an ounce in gold to pass $3500 an ounce

>> No.30034753

But the silver dividend hasn't been confirmed yet.

>> No.30034756

In which case we're dividing ourselves into classes and the debt we accrue will be passed not to our children, but to those of the immigrants we allowed to come here.

though that too isn't sustainable since our rich children will be outnumbered by poor immigrants. But perhaps those children of immigrants will prosper or at the very least assimilate. They always have before.

>> No.30034767

Loans will be going to the same people as always at the end of the day. Hopefully companies simply decide not to jew up and make everything more expansive because of a menial marginal increase in fed funds rate in the near future.

>> No.30034796

>digital gold
stupidest meme ever

>> No.30034809

>Loans will be going to the same people as always at the end of the day.
yeah, nothing really changes.

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In the free market, Supply and Demand determine price. If supply increases but demand stays the same or decreases, than price decreases to meet to added supply. If supply decreases but demand stays the same, than price rises to keep up with decreased supply.

It also works the other way; if demand decreases but supply stays the same or increases, than price decreases to meet the lower demand. If demand increases but supply stays the same or decreases, than price increases too meet the higher demand.


we can only conclude that there is no free market for silver, and the mechanisms for price discovery are either broken, or artificial. The perth mint, responsible for 10-20% of the worlds mint supply, is practically drained from silver. the past few days there has been no silver available, and only now you can purchase 25oz 1oz tubes, and there is a grand total of only 11 1000 oz bars available for purchase in their allocated vaults. many similar reports from all over the world. the only bullion store near me is selling its cheapest 1oz silver product at the equivalent of $36 USD. I cant find any silver cheaper than $50aud/oz on second hand market places.

How the fuck can one of the worlds largest bullion and mint produces be almost depleted of stock, yet the price stays flat and goes down?


There is a plethora of evidence that the price of precious metals are manipulated and i believe this mechanism is on the verge of being broken.

EVERYONE WITH A BASIC ECOMIC UNDERSTANDING KNOWS THAT ALL FIAT CURRENCIES WILL BE WORTHLESS WITHIN THE NEXT 25 YEARS, and 25 years is an extremely conservative estimate. In fact we are ALREADY in hyperinflation conditions.


>> No.30034856

If there are any Christian brothers here I’m in a bad place in my life and in dire straights if anyone can help me you will be saving my life, hopefully someone sees this will know my struggle is very real, thank you brothers and sisters and God bless you all.


And I’m sorry I just don’t know where to turn anymore and you do seem like good people.

>> No.30034927

I'm not talking about bailing out government cronies.
I'm talking about building roads financing military researching new technologies. This things will benefit future generations.
Think of what Germans did before WW2. They went from failed stated to global superpower all thanks to running deficit.

>> No.30034930

Why do you get into these arguments? What do you get out of it if you're already doing so well in life? Why do you try to convince us that we can do well too? If you couldn't do well in life no matter what, what would you do? When you see things that are objectively bad happening in the world do you wish that they could be fixed before they impact you or do you only care once they begin to impact you (or your family if you care about your family)?

To me it seems like the truth you are concerned with is the "game" that you say you can't win if you don't play. As long as you can play it and win then you are pursuing the truth, but that truth just doesn't last forever. It isn't THE truth. I am concerned with what will work permanently, what will give a good life for me and my descendants permanently.

>> No.30034942

Have you remembered to declare your stash to the IRS, frens?

>> No.30034987

Silver's artificially suppressed it's been a conspiracy theory for a while but covid and the general run on silver doing little to the spot price just prove the conspiracy theory as accurate. Silver is real money that fake ass paper bullshit you have in your wallet and the fake ones and zeros you have in your bank account right now aren't real

>> No.30034996

>Still believe in free market


>> No.30035024

baking cake thread now

>> No.30035046

Germany went from failed state to world superpower because they kicked out all the fucking Jews made usury illegal and Hitler focused all of the economy on creating conditions that were conducive to having children starting families and generating wealth. what's it going to take for people to realize that Jews are literally the downfall of every civilization they infect and Hitler was absolutely right and rooting out their fucking nefarious activities.

>> No.30035086

He won't get it. Just filter him

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Price needs to go down so they can load up on cheapies.

>It's always been this way

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>>30035080 cake here

>> No.30035115

>Why do you get into these arguments?
to learn. Not about money, but about how you think. I am interested in your opinions and why you hold them. I'm curious about how anons are right and how they're wrong.
>Why do you try to convince us that we can do well too?
because you can. Most of you are good motherfuckers, and you're concerned about how things are. You will do great things.
>If you couldn't do well in life no matter what, what would you do?
find a different yardstick. Hey, money is important but it's just a tool. You don't need it to find happiness and you know that. But this is a money board, not a happiness board. Spending too much time here can warp priorities.
>It isn't THE truth.
it's barely even A truth. And by the time a person understands it, it will have changed.
>I am concerned with what will work permanently, what will give a good life for me and my descendants permanently.
stasis is death. There is nothing permanent. We have to work and struggle to have a good life and that's part of what makes it good. Don't wish a life of comfort on your kids. Everything about them is built for the fight.

>> No.30035173

We literally have a Jewish controlled Congress a Jewish controlled supreme Court every single media publishing company TV station and news outlet is controlled by a Jewish CEO every Central Bank is run by a Jew and the Federal Reserve is run by Jews. it's not a conspiracy theory when a small group of people that makes up less than 5% of the US population manages to control every facet of society. Jews and Israel literally control our foreign policy our money public opinion, institutions of higher learning and the highest seats in legislature

>> No.30035237

You can do what Germany had when nobody has much of anything. As soon as there is effectively an aristocracy, they will divert marshalled resources to their own benefit. The current enjoyed "standard of living" is simply too divorced from reality. Those in power and the rich do not want to "subsidize" the lower classes. They should just pull themselves up by the bootstraps like they all surely did :^)

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>> No.30035287

>stasis is death. There is nothing permanent. We have to work and struggle to have a good life and that's part of what makes it good. Don't wish a life of comfort on your kids. Everything about them is built for the fight.
I understand this sentiment, but I think you are overlooking very obvious things that are fundamentally wrong with society that COULD be feasibly solved if people were to be made to perceive them and work together to solve them. The struggle doesn't need to be as bad as it is right now. Things COULD be better if you wanted them to be, but you have accepted the shitty state of things and decided to work within the constraints laid out for you. In short, you have been demoralized in the strictest sense of the word.

>> No.30035410

I'm an atheist so I'm amoral. This is useful for making money but not helpful for fixing societal problems.

I am also old, and my generation and my parent's made most of the problems you guys need to fix. I'm not presumptuous enough to think I can both make the problem and fix it. Nor am I particularly interested since while everyone agrees on the problems nobody agrees on solutions, and any solution you settle on is going to seriously hurt some very large group of people. Very likely the same groups that are being hurt by the problems.

>> No.30035478

You felt for hardworking German people meme. They financed their weapons industry with debt. Hitler ran massive budget deficits.
>they kicked out all the fucking Jews
It will only somewhat improve moral state of society. It doesn't explain Germany's economic growth in 5 years. You can't finance factory construction with kicking out Jews. And Sweden didn't give iron ore for free just because they got rid of Jews.

>> No.30035506

Don't listen to the other anons, mercury fillings very slowly offgas into you when you chew (due to effects relating to the poor seal you mention in your later post), this has been shown by a number of european researchers. The mercury is then absorbed through the lungs as you breathe. The problem is compounded if your dentist was foolish enough to put a mercury filling close to a gold crown the mercury filling will break down through galvanism. You need to be really diligent when finding a dentist to remove mercury fillings as an unskilled dentist can and will leave behind small specks of amalgam on your teeth or on your gums that can continue to poison you. Additionally mercury vapor is released during removal, meaning the dentist needs to provide you with a clean air source.

You can nominally remove mercury from the body via chelation but it is a generally poorly understood and almost absurdly slow process.

>> No.30035569

I believe that generational warfare is mostly a divide and conquer ploy by the jews. We have more in common than you think. I am not part of the "you guys" you are referring to. You need to realize that you CAN fix the problems that you caused. You have gained power by causing the problems and you can use that power to right them again.

>> No.30035644

Don't worry I'm working on getting them removed, but I didn't know about that research before so thanks

>> No.30035652

Fat-finger volatility.

>> No.30035682

that's how they hook you

you have to get power to change the system, but it can only be gotten by working in the system. By the time you succeed you won't want to change the system because you'll see the benefits and justify the costs.

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Fiat currency isn't necessarily evil, what is evil is our central banking system that Jewish money lenders put into place that only issues money AS DEBT.
All money is issued into the economy at a interest rate, in order for old debts to be repaid more debt must be issues exponentially.
The game doesn't end until all the wealth in the entire world is owned by Jewish international finance.

>> No.30035739

ah crap just what i wanted to know. Thanks mate i ll look into this.

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>you have to get power to change the system
I don't believe that. I believe my viewpoint will spread organically and I have faith that the truth of my belief will win out. I refuse to sell out. I say enough is enough, the cycle of debasement ends with me. I am willing to take "the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them"

>> No.30035879

Usually it's a threat against your kids that brings you into line. Get divorced and the state owns your children. And they can take them away if you don't do the 'normal' things they require.

>> No.30035887

Germany had aristocracy. Old aristocracy made of nobility and army generals and new one made of party officials. Yet they managed to implement drastic economic changes. Because their aristocracy was patriotic and not self-centered.
>"standard of living" is simply too divorced from reality
Yeah, you can easily lease luxury car and get credit to buy overpriced phone but basic costs of living are too high.

>> No.30035890

Should've quoted it from "Take arms" not from "the slings and arrows" but whatever

>> No.30035923

Yeah. That's why childless men are dangerous, and that's why they are turning men into soiboys, to prevent them from caring about not having kids

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Gold and Silver is good money because it isn't issued with debt attached, it just exists.

Generally when money is issued by governments debt-free it facilitates trade perfectly. Yes today we have 'money printing' however all that money is being lent to the government and the Jewish bankers demand interest for 1's and 0's they type into existence. All world leaders that have fought against this system in the past are eventually crushed like cockroaches by the tremendous power of international jewish finance.


>> No.30035990

I understand, I used to be the same.

but when it came down to either renting a 2 bedroom apartment or losing my son I rented the damn apartment. And I figured if I was going to be forced to make and spend money in their game I needed to do it better than they ever imagined so I wouldn't spend a lot of time on it. I made my first million dollars 2 years later. That's how I fucked the system. Unfortunately beating it required becoming everything bad about it.

>> No.30036022

The jews must really fear this book because I cant get it on Amazon

>> No.30036071

If you're concerned about mercury or lead, you'll want to look into andrew cutler chelation therapy. Developed by a phd chemist who mercury'd himself innalab. It's a huge PITA, but it has done wonders for me after I got exposed to a lot of mercury in my youth.

>> No.30036100

I guess it depends on what stage of life you're in. I came of age at a point that is much worse than you did probably. I set out to find out what is wrong and basically decided to hibernate until conditions change for the better. I am reserving my energy and good will for more benevolent rulers

>> No.30036191

>Fiat currency isn't necessarily evil, what is evil is our central banking system
Fiat currency is evil. It allows people to create wealth out of thin air. If you remove central bank who should have right to issue currency? Government? Commercial banks? Everyone?
>Jewish money lenders put into place that only issues money AS DEBT
They were bankrupting nations before invention of fiat currency. But before they could get checked with bank run. Fractional reserve system wasn't really feasible before fiat.
>debts to be repaid
They don't want anyone to repay debts they only want to collect interest.

>> No.30036234

yes, you have a much harder world to deal with than I did even 20 years ago. Things are changing fast. You guys will figure it out though, there are good things still to do.

>> No.30036356

>muh jewish boogaboo
stfu pig

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A state bank not owned by Jewish finance isn't perfect but it is better. When a nation can issue money free of debt and obligation it is much better then when all money is issued with debt and interest that is owed to a group of jewish financiers.
Of course I like the idea of using pure gold and silver as money in a libertarian lala land where jewish financiers aren't trying to monopolize all things however the world we live in requires a final, not a financial, solution.
Basically in the worlds of the anarcho-capitalist Doug Casey 'some people just need to die.'

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Well I'm glad you see that, I just hope you decide to join us in bringing down the beast. Just because you're an athiest doesn't mean you can't give your life a purpose. Let's build a better world together!

>> No.30036637

thank you, that's a kind sentiment and I appreciate it.

>> No.30036670

Rig your property with booby traps and hack the trespassers to pieces with a machete. Problem solved

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Jews were the group of people that were the primary financers in Europe for over a thousand years.
Do you really not believe that the entropy of hundreds of years of non stop money lending has simply disappeared? That the modern day phenomenon of central banks and world wide money printing is not Jewish in nature?
Every person in history that had a good grasp on the workings of the financial and economic system all knew that it was primarily jews that benefitted from international finance. These jewish elites have stolen the wealth through interest and debt of the world for hundreds of years. It is unnatural that a basically unproductive race of people have so much unchallenged influence in the world.

>> No.30036807

Terminator and Equilibrium come to mind, those are movies but still

>> No.30036923

>basically unproductive
Science and art is full with jews, and many are not out there to hurt you
Get the central bankers tho, race not relevant