/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.29944428]

Behold, the technical genius behind Cardano:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O77yyh18lEg

[Anonymous No.29944648]

>>29944428

LOL.

There is nothing happened in the tech to justify 70x

By the way, their Haskell is an amateur crap and nix bullshit is bullshit.

Cardano is the next XRP

/thread

[Anonymous No.29944888]

>>29944648
Haskell is the language of Perfection.

That said I don't like ADA, prefer ALGO

[Anonymous No.29945166]

>>29944888
>the language of Perfection

It is just pure logic complemented with numeric data types and advanced type system to write state machines.

But it tends to be grossly misused and abused by amateur coders. Same as J2EE (oldfags knew) but pure functional.

Cardano is crap from the technical point of view (but way-way better than Ethereum imperative spaghetti, of course)

[Anonymous No.29945210]

>>29944428
checked

[Anonymous No.29945880]

>>29945166
>numeric data types
>advanced type system to write state machines
>Same as J2EE

you have no idea what you're talking about do you ?

[Anonymous No.29946147]

>>29945880

Do you prefer the Church Encoding for numerals? Haskell is highly syntactically sugared Lambda Calculus - the basis of logic implementation.

Please, just fuck off.

[Anonymous No.29946220]

>>29944648
>Calls Haskell coded by supreme wizards crap.

Nice fud faggot. John Hughes and Philip Wadler are leading the dev team, literal gods of Haskell. Please tell us more on how your virgin solidity programmer can code better.

[Anonymous No.29946262]

>>29946147
Holy reddit spacing batman. Go back

[Anonymous No.29946298]

>>29944648
cope

[Anonymous No.29946338]

>>29946220

No, faggot. They are theorists and consultants. The whole point of having them is to deceive retards like you.

BTW, I have read their books and I know who they are and why.

The coders are amateur degens - take a look at github commits lmao

[Anonymous No.29946362]

Can I get a list of functioning Cardano projects that I can use right now please?

[Anonymous No.29946376]

>>29944428
MaThEmAtIcAL pRoOfS

[Anonymous No.29946429]

>>29946376

Why, at the type-system level, yes.

But it does not make crappy code magically better.

[Anonymous No.29946479]

>>29946362

This is irrelevant. We are talking about the tech.

[Anonymous No.29946628]

>>29946479
Right, function is irrelevant. This is just a tech project that happens to be traded on exchanges. Cardano is worthless.

[Anonymous No.29946841]

>>29946628

Why, all crypto is pure speculation. It does not matter what is the story. It just happened that they hype feedback loops resulted in 70x.

Now I am calling it the next XRP

[Anonymous No.29947047]

for anyone interested here is the epic follow up vid he did to make up for this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nTPsUXTIa4

[Anonymous No.29947142]

haskell is fucking useless

[Anonymous No.29947224]

>>29947142

LOL no. It is the greatest miracle of software engineering.

But you have to have knowledge and skills to do it right.

[Anonymous No.29947321]

>>29944648
>>29945166
>>29946147
>>29946338
>>29946429
>>29946479
>>29946841
>>29947224
You're the same guy in every thread. Rent free.

[Anonymous No.29947337]

>>29946338
>Reads one page deems himself expert.
Do you even understand what a consultant does brainlet. If the code on github ever has issues, these mf step in and provide expertise. Your reddit spacing and shitty business acumen tells me you've never been hired in an actual company before.

[Anonymous No.29947560]

>>29947337

github talks, bullshit walks, lmao

[Anonymous No.29947642]

>>29947560
Exactly, you reading a full book is bullshit, so go walk.

[Anonymous No.29947670]

>>29944428
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O77yyh18lEg [Embed]
I have an uncle that works at nintendo and he said they're making a gamegirl.

[Anonymous No.29947754]

>>29947642

cope. I am an expert in programming, so I can tell a bullshit when I see it

[Anonymous No.29947829]

>>29944648

>their Haskell is amateur

Literally headed by the most influential, most knowledgeable Haskell computer scientist in the world.

[Anonymous No.29947859]

>>29944428
holy fucking lol

how does this charlatan continue to scam so many people? he's literally the new Craig Wright but with incel vibes

[Anonymous No.29947892]

>>29945880
lol, looser

>>29944648
The language they're using does not even matter. Lower gas prices would though

[Anonymous No.29947905]

>muh thtandard

[Anonymous No.29947917]

>>29947829

That is on paper. The crappy code, however, is right on github.

[Anonymous No.29947971]

>>29945166
I'm probably not as good as a programmer as you, but isn't solidity much easier to learn? Took me 3 days to learn most of it since it's literally C++. Also who the fuck codes in haskell?
Pic related is unironically cardano's javascript contract programming language. I will unironically kill myself before programming in pic related.

[Anonymous No.29947985]

https://iohk.io/en/team/kevin-hammond

[Anonymous No.29947991]

>>29947754
>I expert.
Sure, whatever makes you sleep better at night

[Anonymous No.29948049]

>>29947985

Same as board members on meme-companies. It is all for deceiving degens "doing research" LOL

Dig it, they have all the big names here, lmao

[Anonymous No.29948117]

>>29944428
lol this is awesome
take this jerk to kleros court for stealing all your money hahahaha

[Anonymous No.29948152]

>>29945210
Lurk moar newfag

[Anonymous No.29948153]

>>29947971

why, it is simplicity of Scheme which is being transpilled into a Haskell-like language (a DSL) under the hood.

They theoretical basis is solid. Their implementation is crap.

[Anonymous No.29948252]

>>29948153
Problem is that C++ is a language literally every programmer knows, while not that many people use haskell. Like for me, figuring out how Haskell works will probably take me a week at least, and probably at least a few months if I want to become a good smart contract programmer

[Anonymous No.29948774]

Hmmm.... even Hal Finney wanted to learn Haskell.
You can check it on twitter.
But probably he was a coding noob, too - right?

[Anonymous No.29948808]

>>29948252

The point of having a pure-functional language under the hood is that it has properties similar to math and logic (could be evaluated with a pen and pencils, for example) which enables tools, such as type-checkers and compilers to formally prof some crucial invariants in the code, notably absence of logical errors.

Also it has no notion of a shared state, which eliminates a whole class of problems related to race conditions, etc.

Again, their theoretical basis is solid. Best in class.

The problem is that they are hired degens to implement all this while themselves enjoying an exec lifestyles.

A typical corporation, if you ask me. And this is why they will fail.

[Anonymous No.29948851]

>>29948252
You can use solidity on Cardano. It uses virutal machine languages to compile smart contracts into a variety of different languages to fit the needs of developers. You're complaining about useless FUD. You don't even need to learn Plutus to let your dApp run on Cardano. It runs solidity too.

[Anonymous No.29948886]

>>29948774

Haskell is hard. It is like applied statistics - you could misuse it in an infinite number of ways.

[Anonymous No.29949071]

>>29948049

Except he’s leading the engineering team and very active.

[Anonymous No.29949141]

>>29948886
I am not a coder, have no clue.
But even with my low IQ of 65 i can see that Solidity is not the answer .
If any idiot is able to learn it in 3 days, and it doesn't protect Defi investors for smart contract exploits and millions of USD get stolen - the high finance dapps of the future should better use something else.

[Anonymous No.29949313]

>>29949141

Of course not. Everything from fucking vitalik cannot be taken seriously

This is why cardano exist and the people got paid so well. (All the big names does not work for pennies and ramen noodles).

[Anonymous No.29949409]

>>29949141
Really, Cardano allows for a lot of different things. Smart contracts can be compiled from Javascript, Solidity, or Haskell. It really depends.

If I can code in javascript, tha's fucking sick. If I can use solidity without constant fear of thinking about how a wrong variable can cause a stack overflow issue and cause someone to pay thousands in gas fees for a reversed transaction -- I'm good.

I really, really, really, really do not like Ethereum and am excited to see how different languages turn different results on Cardano. If I don't have to use retard level safe math for every single thing -- that's a plus for me. Coding like my brain wants me to, not as a broken network asks me to, is a huge plus.

[Anonymous No.29949421]

>>29949071

On paper. In reality the actual code is crap.

[Anonymous No.29949445]

>>29948252
I only know Python

[Anonymous No.29949472]

>>29949421
If the code is crap, why did the literal fucking creator of solidity, Gavin Wood, use Cardano's ouroboros algorithm as the backbone of Polkadot?

Do you know more than him? Or are you a whiny, insufferable bag holder larping on the internet because it makes you feel like a big man?

[Anonymous No.29949484]

>>29949313
The last thing i expected is to see now fud against Cardano devs.
It's the creme de la creme.
ADA fudders seem to become more desperate every single day.

[Anonymous No.29949651]

>>29949409

There is literally nothing to code in a smart contract lmao. It is just basic arithmetic.

The whole point is to make sure there is no stack overflows, endless loops (this is why their underlying language lacks recursion) and even guaranteed limits on gas.

The guys IOHK hired as consultants brought in all the advances of 50+ years of PL theory research, and theoretically at least, the shit is solid.

The problem is it turned out to be a yet another corporation swamp.

[Anonymous No.29949652]

>>29944428

[Anonymous No.29949686]

Runtime verification ?
Totaly crab, too.
Right fudders?
All this strange computer science academic phd shit is only a meme.
Only ETH and Solidity is the holy grail.
Gosh.....

[Anonymous No.29949694]

>>29949472

Algorithm is not the code, lmao

Research is solid. Implementation is crap.

[Anonymous No.29949808]

>>29949651
Stay with him, he knows best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7MeJionPMA

[Anonymous No.29949861]

I'm a professional functional programmer and I hold a few ADA and in the real world Haskell is mostly useless for solving actual problems. I've worked with ML languages more, and Lisp. Haskell feels more like a historical thing now, more of a catchphrase to sound technical.
If you base your coin purchases on what languages are used you're most likely being tricked.

[Anonymous No.29949876]

>>29949484
I know lol never thought I would see this day. First they called it a scam and never going to be released. Then it was released. Then they started calling a ghost chain and no dApps on the network. Now they are saying the programming lang is crap

Holding 230k ADA

[Anonymous No.29949926]

>>29944428
i cant hear what hes saying

[Anonymous No.29949958]

>>29949861

> Haskell feels more like a historical thing

look, ma, a degen LOL

math and logic is not historical for you?

[Anonymous No.29949973]

>>29949876

Based and red pilled.

30k stacklet that bought in 2018 and hibernated until last week.
I will buy more and continue to hold for a few years.

[Anonymous No.29949997]

>>29949861
Do you know that the Haskell gurus working for Cardano tuned Haskell - to make it more practical?

Cardano created even a Haskell foundation.

Beside that, isn't the legacy banking sector using Haskell?

[Anonymous No.29950002]

>>29944428
>DIGITAL DARWINIAN PRESSURES
DIGITLA DARWINIAN CAMBODIANS
>DIGITAL DARWINIAN PRESSURES
DIGITLA DARWINIAN CAMBODIANS

[Anonymous No.29950076]

>>29949694
>Algorithm is not the code

[Anonymous No.29950124]

>>29949808
What the fuck were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.29950126]

>>29949876
1 mill ADA retard here and not selling only 1.
Cardano is much more than only having money.
Definitly for me.
It's a movement for a better world.

[Anonymous No.29950183]

>>29950126
There's no saving this world. Why waste the effort trying to better it? The selfish boomers knew it all from the start.

[Anonymous No.29950195]

>>29950126
Sell signal

[Anonymous No.29950200]

>>29947560
BASED.

[Anonymous No.29950205]

>>29950124
How to build a proper working POS probably not.
lmfao

Are this dancing beta males behind Vitalik ETH devs?
Would not be surprised if yes.

[Anonymous No.29950221]

>>29950076

Idiots, idiots everywhere.

An implementation of an algorithm is code. There could be way more than one in many languages.

An algorithm, however, is an abstract sequence of steps, and has been around since Babylon.

Please, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.29950240]

>>29950195
I give a shit.
Already made it.

[Anonymous No.29950474]

>>29949997
Not any bank I've worked in anyway. Mostly used for proof systems.
>>29949958
You have no idea what you're talking about. Math and logic is used everywhere, but Haskell is not. If you want a functional language with real world applications try ML or even fucking F#

[Anonymous No.29950515]

>>29950221

[Anonymous No.29950784]

>>29950515
He's right, though.

[Anonymous No.29951025]

>>29947971
>I will unironically kill myself before programming in pic related.
He thinks he can't use solidity in Cardano kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxtZNzKYqao

Did you watch the long version of the pond the ocean and the island?

[Anonymous No.29951120]

>>29944428
He streams but won't even look at his chat. What a retard.

[Anonymous No.29951418]

>>29949651
Elitist fag. Real people don't care about how beautiful your code is as long as it works without bugs and errors. Cardano has successfully built an MVP which is much more efficient and upgradable than Ethereum. On top of that you can still code in your favourite language on Cardano. So programming elitists like you can literally make a dapp on the platform without even touching Haskell.

[Anonymous No.29951648]

>>29951120

The task of a frontman is hype and bullshitting - creating an image of confident knowledge of what the fuck they are doing, lmao

This is why they got paid so well - because their bullshitting brings money of retards in.

That 70x was fucking insane and completely unjustified.

However, I know why. It happens that the current narrative portraits Cardano as the next big thing, because of all the hype.

Yes, I seethe because I researched it and erased everything on it back in September (with the same conclusion - corporate bullshit) when BTC took off.

And right now I still don't see any reason for such a takeoff. Not a single one.

[Anonymous No.29951665]

>>29944428
What did he say here that was so controversial? You guys aren't paying attention.

[Anonymous No.29951702]

>>29951648
Had the same experience pretty much, I could not bring myself to invest my money on this bugman and his vaporware project. $30bn and not even smart contracts? lmao

[Anonymous No.29951737]

>>29951418
>without bugs and errors.

the absence of those in an imperative language cannot be proven, lmao, only assumed.

All the PL research is about narrow the range of possible errors and bugs.

And Haskell is a bliss when done right - almost direct expression of formal definitions

[Anonymous No.29951739]

>>29951648
>That 70x was fucking insane and completely unjustified.
Bitcoin did 2 million x

https://youtu.be/jJ1Xe049qLc

[Anonymous No.29951742]

>>29951648
KEVM alone.
>>29950784
I kno, I'm just trolling him because I'm bored.

[Anonymous No.29951817]

ADA is literally the most comfy hold ever.

[Anonymous No.29951840]

>>29951702
>$30bn and not even smart contracts? lmao
You must be one of the ethkilller defi retards who think "le smart contracts" are the be all end all of crypto. They're dumb contracts, a piece of code that self executes. If you want a smart contract hire a lawyer and a notary

Crypto matters more for simple payments, and this provides a better alternative to bitcoin with almost zero fees and maximum decentralization. Plus higher security and scalability. cardano could power native stock markets and 100 visa payment systems all on its own

[Anonymous No.29951899]

>>29944888
>vanilla is the tastiest
>that being said i prefer chocolate

[Anonymous No.29951945]

>>29951840
It's so simple yet ADA doesn't have them after 3 years. Curious.

[Anonymous No.29951951]

>>29951742
>KEVM

2018

[Anonymous No.29951997]

>>29951945

They want to do it right, otherwise no one will buy it

[Anonymous No.29952148]

>>29951951
What is 2018 about a scalable non-inflationary network...uhhh...never mind, you're a retard. Go buy ethereum .

[Anonymous No.29952261]

>>29952148
>non-inflationary network

What is non-inflationary relative to a network, degen?

KVEM was not the cause of the August-February price surge.

[Anonymous No.29952352]

>>29949421
79 posts by this ID

[Anonymous No.29952400]

>>29944428
I was legit trying to get my headphones to power on for like a minute.

[Anonymous No.29952427]

>>29952261
what?
I don't even know what you are talking about at this point.

[Anonymous No.29952452]

>>29951737
Doesn't matter if it's imperative or declarative.

Talking generally, users literally don't give a damn what goes on in the backend. The PL research is a good thing. Since all users want is a platform that does what is intended with minimal unpredictability.

So if there happens to be any issues that arise, finding them will be much easier than trying to find it without the foundational research.

[Anonymous No.29953061]

>>29947321
fud is bullish

God bless them for telling me what to buy

[Anonymous No.29953314]

Another day of fudding for some, another day of gains for me. I might sell some at $2.

[Anonymous No.29953342]

So
Is it me or 50%+ of ada shills are reddit niggers?

[Anonymous No.29953368]

are yo makingtrying to talk about the revenue of erc20 coins? checked gas? such huge fees against Apollo's native blockchain, you fools

[Anonymous No.29953427]

>>29950076
It isn't the code kek
Algo is the procedure

[Anonymous No.29953477]

>>29950076
in e=mc2 the algorithm's energy = mass * light^2, the math is e=mc2

[Anonymous No.29953562]

I will never invest into picrel

[Anonymous No.29954341]

>>29949694
So what do you purpose? What do you hold.

[Anonymous No.29955247]

>>29944428
>Behold
no

[Anonymous No.29956216]

>>29944648
>There is nothing happened in the tech to justify 70x
there sure is anon, it's called awareness. Cardano is still vastly undervalued and as people fianlly wake up to the fact it will continue to skyrocket. by the way, keep coping

[Anonymous No.29956273]

>>29946338
imagine seething this hard, I suspect a suicide is incoming. please don't do it anon.

[Anonymous No.29956387]

>>29951945
Lmao

[Anonymous No.29956407]

>>29947917
>The crappy code
Some of the best haskell code ever hit the keyboard, but keep seething reddit seether. Are you the guy from Leddit /haskell that Charles completely and utterly btfo? I think you are.

[Anonymous No.29956461]

>>29948252
Multiple Programming Language Support for Smart Contract Creation
>https://youtu.be/k8a6tX53YPs

Q1:
>Solidity (through KEVM Devnet)
>Haskell (Marlowe DSL for finance)
>Javascript --> Haskell (Marleow DSL for finance)
>Blockly GUI --> Haskell (Marlowe DSL for finance)
>Haskell --> Plutus god-tier language

Coming thereafter:
>Python
>C
>C++
>C#
>Golang
>Javascript
>PHP
>Swift
>.NET
>Objective-C
>Rust
>Scala

Solidity:
https://developers.cardano.org/en/virtual-machines/kevm/about/devnet-skill-set/

Marlowe:
https://alpha.marlowe.iohkdev.io/#/blockly

Plutus:
https://playground.plutus.iohkdev.io/

[Anonymous No.29956510]

>>29949421
>On paper. In reality the actual code is crap.
no in reality, and in reality the actual code is fantastic. you're one butthurt faggot.

[Anonymous No.29956611]

>>29951418
the faggot is just seething right out of his asshole. his whole premise of being here is to elevate the discussion above most people's heads so that he can win the argument in that way. it is a very common debate tactic. creationists use it all the time, it doesn't fool trained scientists but it sounds great to the untrained ear. that's what this seething 27+post faggot is up to here. he is absolutely a 100% obsessed redditor who came to biz to shit on cardano, that's how obsessed he is.

[Anonymous No.29956706]

>>29949409
>If I can code in javascript, tha's fucking sick. If I can use solidity without constant fear of thinking about how a wrong variable can cause a stack overflow issue and cause someone to pay thousands in gas fees for a reversed transaction -- I'm good.
doubtful you've ever coded a smart contract. most of this feels like you're some IT wagecuck with a bird's eye view
i.e. safemath took care of 99% of dumb overflow mistakes, and since solidity 0.8 this is fixed at the language level anyway
reverted txs never cost more than gas limit and in fact always cost much less, so unless gas price spiked to ~5000 gwei (which has never happened in the history of ethereum) or eth price climbed to $10k (never happened either), spending thousands is impossible
that second mistake makes for an easy guess: you're likely an uniswap shitcoiner pajeet who saw an invalid state transaction in your metamask, which assumes the block gas limit and makes for a crazy fee on paper...
learn to code, retard

[Anonymous No.29956713]

>>29946338
Why are you so retarded. Like I can get the butthurt of not buying in when this was 0.02 and there were so many threads here shilling this coin.


but come on man, there is a limit to getting this butt hurt. Please seek a doctor, you are gonna neck yourself the way things are going.

p.s its still not too late to invest in cardano.

[Anonymous No.29956817]

>>29956706
suicidal mETH bagholders LARPing in force. love it.

[Anonymous No.29956816]

>>29951418
nigger the entire "value proposition" of cardano since 2017 has been muh academics, muh peer review, muh appeal to authority, muh haskell
ffs charles ran away from ethereum because the other eth guys weren't keen on taking VC money
cardano is the definition of elitism

[Anonymous No.29956925]

>>29956816
no mETH bagholder, the value proposition of cardano is doing things right. and they've done that. mETH had a 1 year head start on proof of stake and their haphazard shitcode pizza hackathon approach led to them finishing BEHIND CARDANO despite those same mETH faggots (like yourself) shitting all over cardano for going slow. now the mETH team is abandoning sharding because their "just code until we get stuck" approach has backfired for the umpteenth time. Cardano is the definition of doing things correctly.

[Anonymous No.29957168]

Low IQ 2021 ADA bagholder:
>HASKELL IS SUCH A SECURE AND GOOD LANGUAGE, ITS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SOLIDITY AND SUBSTRATE
>$1 IS SO CHEAP DUDE, HAVE YOU SEEN ETH'S PRICE?
>DUDE ITS THE NEXT ETH, THE FOUNDER WAS THE BRAINS BEHIND ETH
>SMART CONTRACTS COMING SOON
>EVERYONE WILL BE BUILDING THEIR SMART CONTRACTS ON ADA INSTANTLY, IT WILL BECOME THE BIGGEST DEFI NETWORK
>ADA HAS MUH PARTNERSHIPS IN AFRICA
>VC MONEY IS BETTER THAN STARTUP MONEY AND DAO FUNDING
>HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT ADA, MY BUDDY CHAD TOLD ME ITS GONNA BE 1 TRILLION MARKET CAP IN A FEW YEARS

[Anonymous No.29957222]

>>29957168
>suicidal mETH bagholder
put the helium tank away anon, it'll be okay.

[Anonymous No.29957297]

>>29944888
You mean a bunch of unemployed autists, yeah.

[Anonymous No.29957329]

>>29946220
Couldn't give a fuck if Mahatma Gandhi was leading the team. Haskell is shit.

[Anonymous No.29957517]

>>29948049

[Anonymous No.29957640]

>>29957517

[Anonymous No.29957718]

>>29957517

Of course I know who he is, and I have read his papers and his last book.

But it is very naive to think that this guy does anything to this project except reviewing some papers.

He didn't write a single line of code though.

[Anonymous No.29957829]

>>29957640

My friend. This is for degens. All such kind of info is for degens and "investors".

Normal people will look at the code.

[Anonymous No.29957860]

>>29944648
AHAHAAHHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHHA this nigger has no ADA AAHHAHAHHAHAHA what a faggot

[Anonymous No.29957872]

>>29957718
>He didn't write a single line of code though.
Plutus and Plutus Core

[Anonymous No.29957914]

Hm this thread makes me want to into ADA again...
Also seems lots of coder big brains itt (larps or not) how does one "learn to code" if i wanted to learn this beauty called haskwell how'd i into?

[Anonymous No.29958395]

>>29957872

He co-authored papers, not the code. Publications is what he is after.

[Anonymous No.29958508]

>>29957718
>very naive to think that this guy does anything to this project except reviewing some papers
source: trust me

[Anonymous No.29959002]

>>29949808

[Anonymous No.29959025]

>>29959002

[Anonymous No.29959049]

>>29959025

[Anonymous No.29959167]

Fuck cardano and FUCK you faggot

[Anonymous No.29959176]

>>29959002
>>29959025
>>29959049
kek my sides

[Anonymous No.29959398]

>>29958395
A team of seasoned computer scientists or autistic hackathon coders. Tough choice.

[Anonymous No.29959750]

whats up with the tokenomics of this coin? market cap thru the roof still 1 dollar??? how am i supposed to make money with this?

[Anonymous No.29959931]

These threads are hilarious, i hope the price continues to rise just to keep these threads going

[Anonymous No.29960236]

>>29956407

>the best haskell code ever hit the keyboard

Could we all here see any justification for such statement?

I would say xmonad is a good Haskell code, prelude and most of the Haskell library is.

Lets hear some argument about iohk code though.

[Anonymous No.29960283]

>>29944428
Hahahahahaha Jesus Christ

[Anonymous No.29960288]

>>29956611

LOL no. I am just a better programmer than you.

[Anonymous No.29960732]

Haskell is pretty based.

[Anonymous No.29960775]

>>29958395
Why don't you tell us why you think the code is crap? Why just go on in circles?

[Anonymous No.29960941]

>>29960775
Its just fud. This nigga has ada.

[Anonymous No.29960947]

>>29944428
ummm guys im not getting any sound for this video on multiple browsers

> WHO IS BEHIND THIS

[Anonymous No.29960986]

>>29960947
go to 6.45

[Anonymous No.29961091]

>>29960775

Ever heard of useless, redundant abstractions? This is what is wrong with 90% of amateur Haskell code.

IOHK code looks like Enterprise Java, only in Haskell. Useless wrapping, structure conversions, etc.

It is long story. But it is just crap. To write decent Haskell is hard, it takes 99% of time to came up with just right abstraction, expressed without any esoteric bullshit such as lenses or whatever.

Look at GHC or Cabal code. These are gold standard, without idiotic dependencies.

And, of course, Nix is bullshit. Stable interfaces (the code of programming) with semantic versioning will do.

Nix is kind of useless J2EE bullshit - solving a non-existing problem by attention seeking narcissistic degens. Again, GHC is ok without Nix

[Anonymous No.29961278]

>>29944428
my sides

[Anonymous No.29961508]

>>29961091
Well, thanks for being more specific! It may be a long story but since it's basically your whole point you may want to elaborate a bit instead of throwing back the shit some monkeys are flinging at you here. I would be interested if the shortcomings mentioned by you will keep Cardano from delivering the things it promises in your view or are you just appalled by the lack of efficiency and elegance of subpar (by your standard) programmers?

[Anonymous No.29962018]

>>29961091
>things i don't like and aren't objectively bad
ok

[Anonymous No.29962041]

>>29961508

Well, to me it looks like some smart marketing guys (don't know who exactly) created a company in which execs and consultants have a decent pay and then hired a bunch cheap subpar coders in a language which requires mastery to be used correctly and efficiently.

However, the appeal to investors (and degens) is very strong - look at all the big names, and theorem provers (tools) we use, and Haskell, and yada yada. It is definitely a good appeal.

So, like I said above, the theoretical basis is solid, and the implementation is crap, because all the well paid theoreticians and academics mentioned are not the same people who wrote the code (look at github commits).

[Anonymous No.29962120]

>>29962018

why are you posting your picture?

[Anonymous No.29962785]

>>29962041
Thanks then for your assessment, fellow traveller. May the journey lead you to your goals.

[Anonymous No.29962930]

Cardano is a temporary money printer, as is the entirety of the crypto industry. A tool for transition and a buffer for inflation, it'll end in a rugpull once the powers that be have integrated their systems into every aspect of daily life.
If you are smart and not just NPCs LARPing as autists, or worse even redditors, you'll print as much money as you can with this industry and move the profits into real valueables; real estate, precious metals, food supplies, medicine, weapons, whatever.
This entire industry hinges on a circular logic, fairy tales and wishful thinking. It derives its 'value' from the infinite supplies of FIAT money which are being funneled into it 24/7, if it wasn't for this scam - if all this useless FIAT currency wasn't pulled out of circulation and locked in these 'projects', staking protocols or lost along the way in pajeet rugpulls and glitches - the social and financial tensions would have already reached a boiling point.
People are being lured in by promises of effortless accumulation of wealth and 'decentralization' (in terms of governance, tech is irrelevant, as the vast, vast majority of victims are technically illiterate)...

I am sure the people sitting on real wealth accumulated over generations (read: centuries) will just sit back and let autists and NPCs LARPing as such usurp their thrones; they won't co-opt it or lobby it out of existence - likely because they are the ones engineering it. Meanwhile, you go on and preach the good word about crypto, ignore its dependance on hardware filled to the brim with backdoors and centralized infrastructure owned by your sworn enemies.
Hold onto your digital 'assets' for all of eternity, don't mind the CDBCs, I am sure they'll honor your investment and not just kill the projects they are interested in with controversy and legislation to shake you out and assimilate them behind the scenes.

Propaganda, idealism and tribalism are drugs, don't OD on them.

[Anonymous No.29963849]

>>29953562
This.

[serg25 No.29963901]

forget about this cheap shit
don’t check this scam
>you shouldn’t be genius to understand how to do money on staking
follow Jul on BSC
>no reason to pay 20% of your portfolio on fees and taxes

[Anonymous No.29963926]

>>29962930
Cool you posted this is another ADA thread, kys.

[Anonymous No.29963930]

Has Zero Exchange been confirmed as Cardano's official dex yet?