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GARBAGE VAPORWARE
GARBAGE VAPORWARE
GARBAGE VAPORWARE
GARBAGE VAPORWARE
GARBAGE VAPORWARE

>> No.29836983

>>29836930
That's why centralization wins. It's just faster and more reliable.

>> No.29836998
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29836998

>>29836930
>blocks your path

>> No.29837047

>>29836930
What about the current market suggests people are buying bitcoin to spend on retail shopping?

>> No.29837052
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>>29836983
>>29836930
Have you missed something there, anon?
>1.4m per second
>Literally 10k teepees in early beta

Follow Dan Hughes on Twitter. Enjoy.

>> No.29837061

>>29836930
btc is a meme. i dont even know how this meme is still a thing.

>> No.29837105

>>29836930
You didnt get the memo on why cryptos were created and whats their adventage, didnt you?

>> No.29837157

>>29836983
>That's why centralization wins. It's just faster and more reliable.
it's also very difficult to audit
this is why governments are seriously looking at the mandatory addition of blockchain technologies
>cope
no, im not coping. if you listened to jerome powell's hearing last week they mentioend bitcoin and blockchain 3-4 times and not even in a Janet Yellen way, they mentioned it with adoration
same with the recent fincen review with glaser
>who is glaser?
>Daniel L. Glaser is a former Assistant Secretary for Terrorist Financing at the United States Department of the Treasury.
the government was afraid of it during trump BECAUSE GOP WAS AFRAID OF THE IDEA OF NOT BEING ABLE TO COOK THE BOOKS

>> No.29837164

>>29836930
just like stocks VISA manipulates data with false transactions and volume.

>> No.29837215

1 MILLION BABY
https://steemit.com/english/@cmm-official/cardano1milliontransactionspersecond-hydrapaperreleased-ola53r3gez

>> No.29837221

>babbys first day in crypto still thinks tx speed is the no. 1 issue
kek

>> No.29838016

>>29837105
*vrrrr, puttputt vrrrrrr*

. , . `. , . ....~ , ~ '~/"DASH"/

,.;`.`;~~,.`,`;~,-;` \. \' \. \ \-\\=\\\\\\\\\VISA\\ ) `.

*....,,,,vvvvVVVVAA[NIGGERR!!]OOMMMmmm,,,...*

>> No.29838197

>>29836930
Doesn't Zilliqa have the sharding mechanism with no theoretical limit on transaction numbers? And the nodes can be really small, unlike other proof of stake coins?

>> No.29838247

>>29836930
Visa doesn't do 24k cross-border settlements per second. Ripple's payment software gets way more than 24k tps

>> No.29838275

>>29836930
centralized and censorable. fiat is for faggots. crypto is for chads.

>> No.29838287

>>29836930
Bitch I got that ALGO

>> No.29838295

>>29836930
You conveniently ignored Nano. Cunt.

>> No.29838497
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29838497

Imagine thinking transaction speed is a particularly important metric for what crypto is capable of

>> No.29838616

>>29836930
>conveniently leaves out all the tech that puts this chart to shame
dumb boomer

>> No.29838783

>>29838497
When I'm trying to trade, speed matters. When it takes over hour to get bitcoin there is a problem.
I'm sticking with my boomer stocks.

>> No.29839137

>>29838783
but will the boomer stocks stick with you?

>> No.29839210
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29839210

Excuse me coming through.
Was a bit late

>> No.29839296

>>29836930
Based

>> No.29839307
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29839307

World Record 16.4 Million transaction block on Bitcoin SV STN!
https://twitter.com/SaturnJS/status/1356912365229473794

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29839331

>>29836930

>> No.29839345

>>29838287
Notice how he left that off the chart

>> No.29839409

>>29836930
>we are faster means we're better
>we get our money out of thin air, who cares
yeah, I'd rather wait

>> No.29839463
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29839463

>>29839331
Based

>> No.29839496

>>29836930
BSV does 50k TPS and it isn't anywhere near the limit.

>> No.29839532

>>29836930
do you have total control over you funds with Visa?
fucking kill yourself kike

>> No.29839544
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29839544

309MB block on BSV Main Net. Thats a new world record. Containing 1,178,322 transactions. Thats 1,17 MILLION.
BTC has a 1mb Block size with a max cap of 7 transactions per second.
https://twitter.com/vires_numeris/status/1260319123583664128

>> No.29839549

>>29837047
By that there's no reason not to buy into all these scams since just like BTC they do nothing at all.

>> No.29839599

>>29837215
>layer 2

Which is to say not scale, because it's not blockchain. Not that ADA wasn't already centralized Proof of Scam shit, it is.

>> No.29839613

>>29836930
Conveniently left out BSV. Such a Jewish mistake could never be by accident.

>> No.29839636

>>29837052
Is the team doxxed? Why invest in this rather than ALGO, NANO or IOTA ?

>> No.29839652

Where is HBAR?

>> No.29839671

>>29838497
Monero has 0-conf, faggot. Transaction/payment speed absolutely matters insofar as spending.

>> No.29839715 [DELETED] 

>>29838783
>When I'm trying to trade, speed matters

So you are on a decentralized exchange where speeds are exponentially lower than centralized where bitcoin is trades in milliseconds. Next you'll tell us how high your IQ is unironically

>> No.29839736

can't buy ammunition to kill politicians with a visa card though

>> No.29839743

>>29839307
>32 BSV reward

The best part is even this amount of scale is still small potatoes to where BSV is going.

>> No.29839807

>>29839715
DEXs are a meme.

>> No.29839841
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29839841

>>29839743
It is going up day by day. I made those last week. I just looked again.

it's now
2.9 GB Block on Bitcoin SV STN
and
353 MB Block on Bitcoin Sv Main net

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Opps left out the best part

Bitcoin SV is doing
14,775 TSP on test net and
3987.16 TSP on Main net as of today

>> No.29840121

>>29837157
elaborate? pls

>> No.29840545
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29840545

Trust-less
No Third Parties
As Fast as a Visa transaction
Peer-to-Peer
0 Confirmations for small transactions
Cheaper transactions than any Bank
No Second layer

Yeap that's BSV

>> No.29840818

i'll go for bitcoin cash thanks.

>> No.29840991

>>29840545
The problem is, bsv is just like all the other shitcoins that can do tricks: fucking worthless. To attack the network it costs just $6,912 an hour (compared to $716,072 an hour for bitcoin) but no one does it because its attracted no value. The network will be attacked, though, I'm fairly sure. Fuck, I could attack the network with a fraction of a bitcoin, bringing le "mighty TPS" down to zero.

>> No.29841034

>>29840818
Bitcoin Cash? More like Bitcoin Ass. $8,560 one hour of 51% attack cost

>> No.29841139
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29841139

>>29840991
>To attack the network it costs just $6,912 an hour
LMFAO sure it does.
Then how come it has never been done ?

You don't understand that not all the miners work on the same block sizes. What you are proposing will NEVER happen.
BSV is by far the most shorted Coin in the world. It all comes from one exchange doing the naked shorting.
They spend Billions a month shorting BSV.
They should have talked to you and taken it ALL down for $166,000...

Damn why didn't they think of that ? Oh I know! Because it's bullshit.

>> No.29841163

>>29839599
Seamless layer2. Users don't interact with layer 2 directly.

>> No.29841382

>>29841139
So you're saying its the Gamestop of crypto, down 86% over 1 year, and its because of pesky short sellers, and not the fundamentals.

Okay, well, /wsb/ is that way ---> reddit

>> No.29841425

Hedera Hashgraph is the answer.

>> No.29841549

>>29841382
Where did I say that ? Oh, yeah I didn't
Nice straw-man, You get a gold star.
Go on and try to stall or double spend the network. I mean you must have $7,000
You'd become a crypto star and get hired in 2 seconds for 100s of thousands of dollars.

..or just talk shit on /biz/

>> No.29841637

>>29839345
Convenient
>>29839331

>> No.29841644

>>29837157
>BECAUSE GOP WAS AFRAID OF THE IDEA OF NOT BEING ABLE TO COOK THE BOOKS
kek. We both know who is scared of election integrity.

>> No.29841815

>>29841549
The point is, smart money doesn't give a shit about bsv. The main problem is the PR disaster that is CSW. The other problem is a lack of compelling fundamentals.

For example, Hedera Hashgraph. That is 1 SEXXXY coin

>> No.29842115
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29842115

>>29841815
>The other problem is a lack of compelling fundamentals.
Are you on drugs ?
There is nothing any other Coin can do that BSV can't do on Layer 1. Nothing.
and it can do it while not being centralized, using layer 2 or dealing with third parties.

Can Hedera (Owned by https://dcg.co/portfolio/)) do this ?

Can your Bitcoin do this ?
George Carlin Video on BSV Blockchain -
This is an API call that takes the video right off the blockchain . Look how fast it loads
https://media.bitcoinfiles.org/a89cd6b4eb4d9f510a9a7adf21bfd84ee63e4d9a6e6f1da99e7d82718870a484

Casino Games with no registration - Payouts right IN the wallet
https://peergame.com/

A twitter were you are paid to post
https://twetch.app

A Brokerless ON-CHAIN Exchange - Where you can buy Stocks, Commodities and Crypto
https://tdxp.app/market/BSV-USD

A gaming platform where you play instantly without download, and gain BSV while playing
https://satoplay.com/#!

Another crazy Game where you literally buy your city on planet earth and advertise, get citizens etc. 24/7
https://coingeek.com/cityonchain-build-your-city-build-with-bsv/

This Modern Game is ON the Genuine Bitcoin Blockchain right now.
https://www.cryptofights.io/

Slictionary - Define words and get paid - Compete against others to get the best definition. The Crowd Decides
https://www.slictionary.com/

Archive a webpage on the blockchain FOREVER
https://etched.page/

Add a money button to any website and get paid in 10 secs in BSV.
Money Button is a client-side Bitcoin SV (BSV) wallet in an iframe.
https://www.moneybutton.com/


and 100's of other use cases...
https://metastore.app/apps?sort=hot#explore

STFU with your no fundamentals.

>> No.29842226

>>29837052
i too love to live in fantasy land

>> No.29842481

>>29836930
Visacoin when.

>> No.29842573

>>29837052
Was going to post THIS

Try harder OP

>> No.29843021

>>29839331
Was waiting for this one

>> No.29843038

whats the most efficient and reliable way to buy and store bsv rn

>> No.29843336

>>29842115
since you seem like a big proponent for bsv what do you see as the future timeline for this coin?

>> No.29843710
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>>29843336
It's happening as we speak.
Every ERC token can migrate right now.
This year BSV will have faster than Visa transactions on chain.
That includes Smart Contracts and NFTs on chain.
We don't need any oracles because it's ALL on Layer 1 and zero conf.

They are constantly building.
There is so much being done that it is mind boggling.
Anyone that talks about BSV not having use cases is just a straight up shill.

"Youtube for BSV". An ad-free video streaming platform built to help creators monetize their content directly from viewers.
https://streamanity.com/

Create Bitcoin SV tokens in 3 steps.
https://bsvtokens.net/en

The world's first onchain podcasting network.
https://www.castr.fm/

Relica is Instagram on Chain where you get paid for each like
https://relica.world

GoBitFundMe is designed to help people come together to raise money. Onchain on BSV.
https://gobitfundme.com/

Relayx.io is quickly becoming like an app store for bsv , a wallet provider and exchange
AND they have a Payment card that uses your in wallet funds with ZERO fees.
https://relayx.com/card

Uploead anyfile to the blockchain
https://www.bitcoinfiles.org/

Bitstream - Livestream and get paid instantly with immutable BSV
https://www.bitstream.gg/

A BSV Exchange were everything is priced in BSV and transactions are instant.
https://www.floatsv.com/markets/spot-list

Wechat in blockchain from China
https://tocial.io/

>> No.29844163

>>29843710
curious because im looking in some other projects but how would this compare to the xsn stakenet project with their upcoming dex and masternodes where the mn holders make money from the transactions?

>> No.29844400

>>29844163
Dapps and Lightning need trust. It's not a good solution.
Bitcoin can do everything every other chain can do but on layer 1.

Here's some more use cases

Do you recycle ? Get paid to do so.
https://recyclesv.com/

Get paid BSV to give your observations, or offer to buy others' observations in paid polls.
https://obsurv.me/

Index and retrieve climate data immutably stored on the BSV distributed ledger.
https://weathersv.app/find

Comment on any URL without being censored by the owner.
Comments are stored on the Bitcoin SV blockchain
https://koalament.io/

Spreadsheets onchain
https://gigasheets.com/

Decentralized Blogging
https://powpress.org/

Uptime monitoring system: monitor your services from real users or run a node on your phone to start earning BSV
https://www.bitping.com/

A Point of sale BSV wallet being used all over South Africa and allowing people to do things like become thier own UBER
https://www.centbee.com/merchants/

Github ON chain
https://programonchain.com/account

Legally Chained digital contract automation software enables you to create compliant digital contracts and store them immutably on the BSV blockchain. (Coming soon)
https://legallychained.com/

There are literally 1000's of new use cases being built on BSV right now.
When Teranode hits before summer, it's all over.

>> No.29844438

>>29836930
>>29836930
No point in comparing TPS without including finality, a VISA tx takes days to be considered final, an Ethereum takes 6 minutes, an Optimistic rollup one takes 1 week, an Elrond one takes 54 seconds, an Avalanche one takes less than a second.

>> No.29844509

>>29844400
whats a make it stack right now or am i too late?

>> No.29844631

>>29844400
This kills decentralization because the hardware requirements to run a full block producing node increases exponentially.

>> No.29844817

>>29844509
You are no where near too late.
Goto Twitter. Search for #BSV and $BSV and follow everyone.
You'll learn all about it real quick and you'll see MUCh of the othersides arguments.

A Make it stack is 21 OR 210. Depends how much money you have.
It will explode one day. If the shorts just stopped shorting, it goes up 450% that day.
Th eidea is that the use cases become so much that there is no reason to use any other chain.
Layer 2 solutions WILL fail. Just look at Eth right now. Look at the transaction fees.
Trust, third parties and/or high fees are all part EVENTUALLY of such a system.

>> No.29844886

>>29844631
Yeap no body running nodes on their Raspberry Pi's
Those nodes making millions a day will have to spend $100 a month on another hard drive.

A couple more "non use" cases

Easily check trusted digital documents with absolute certainty in seconds.
https://www.dokkz.com/

The first public Bitcoin API micropayment platform.
https://apiandme.com/

Earn money for data labelling. You can work from anywhere.
https://stotask.com/#/

>> No.29845087
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29845087

AVAX is faster than visa.

>> No.29845239

>>29837047
>current market
You dumb nigger. You think people are buying in based on current manipulated conditions?
Crypto is a hedge against the ruling class.
Its your one chance to make it before 'they' apply the same manipulation.

>> No.29845629

>>29844886
You'll end up with only a couple of people validating the network, at this point just use a centralized server.

>> No.29846117
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29846117

>>29845629
A network only needs a certain amount of validators. Satoshi was clear. Only miners are nodes.
A bunch of raspberry pi's do ZERO for the network.

Let's be for real. The majority of the BTC network is large groups. They ALL 100% are making millions a month.
Nodes that serve data will be plenty. Miners are real nodes, though as per Satoshi.
Why on earth are you thinking 'big' blocks are limiting number of nodes - hard drives are costly? Bandwidth is costly? No and no.

Satoshi said from the beginning that mining will evolve to large server farms. This doesn't equate to "centralized", a common misconception that has perpetuated the Bitcoin cryptosphere for years. Proper incentives keep miners, governments, and all relevant actors in check. Bitcoin is an economic system, as well as a technical one.

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29847220

I low key want to buy BCSV and pray for it to flip BC.

>> No.29847456

>>29847220
Use will win in the end. It just might take awhile.
A good strategy is to put a % of your crypto earnings into BSV.
BTC, ETH and anything using 2nd layer solutions or third parties will fail eventually.

>> No.29847495

>>29839636
Yes, fully doxxed for a long time

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>>29847456
Then again I am currently reading up on Craig Wright and he seems to be a fucking schizo, so my desire to hold bsv is waning.

>> No.29847619

>>29836930
You forgot HBAR

>> No.29847652

>>29836930
>He doesn't know about VISAcoin
100k transactions per second
The 1 minute bar looked glorious

>> No.29847677

>>29837157
>no, I’m not coping

Yes you are. Cope harder

>> No.29847831

>>29847570
Watch this then
Craig Wright is the person who has the biggest number of blockchain patents in the world. He is Autistic.
https://youtu.be/hXUOSCGfuJA

>> No.29847923

>>29839345
>>29841637
>>29839331
Don't forget time to settle. ~4.5 seconds

>> No.29848207

>>29839331
Based AlgoNaught

>> No.29848421
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29848421

can't get it any better than HBAR, it already is the best technology we can achieve in consensus

>> No.29848481

>>29836930
LINK is the answer

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>>29839652

>> No.29848552

>>29847831
Interesting, send me some more shit.

>> No.29848614

>>29848421
Shut the fuck up Michael

>> No.29848659

>>29848552
https://youtu.be/_yuyrxGJ-FU

>> No.29848812

>>29848614
who? stupid roach

>> No.29850080

>>29836983
Did you know that using the word just in a written sentence denotes insecurity? True facts bitch

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>>29846117
>Satoshi
>Satoshi
>Satoshi