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Seriously can’t wait to dump this shit. What a mistake buying at 300 levels. Holding this shit is nerve wracking.

I can’t wait until other projects start to show life like BSC has. BSC is a shit long term hold but it makes you really fucking jealous to see a functional product. Can’t wait until we get DeFi on a real blockchain

>> No.29687701

>>29687603
You are still holding? Kek

>> No.29687726

>>29687603
eth sucks

>> No.29687851

I'll buy those bags

>> No.29687882

>>29687701

I’ve literally been waiting for any ETH pair to raise in value for months and it just constantly tanks. There’s no fucking exit from this SHIT

>> No.29687984

>>29687882
it has been gaining on bitcoin for a year and a half. go ahead and sell

>> No.29688043

I feel the same, bro. I've been holding ETH since 2016 and always felt really comfy, until about a month ago. Now I'm thinking about dumping it for BTC

>> No.29688076

>>29687603
yeah I sold all my eth and you should too. everyone should.

>> No.29688102

>>29687882
>>29687603
why are you so easily affected by fud? grow a pair of balls or stop reading posts on /biz/ and social media. can't you see fud is at an all time high and you're so emotional you need to cry online about it?

>> No.29688128

>>29687984
absolute retard, take a look at ETHBTC, it's a dumpster fire

>> No.29688168

>>29687882
ETH, like LINK, is an awful hold. Follow the money anon

>> No.29688177

>>29687603
>staking 330 eth that I can't sell even if I wanted to
Already sold 670 on the way up, so I'm comfy either way. Not being able to sell makes it a lot easier to relax actually, because no news makes any difference to me for the time being.

>> No.29688202

So much eth FUD lately. You know something good is about to happen

>> No.29688339
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29688339

>>29687984
Why do you guys always say that. ETH has been a terrible investment. You could have picked BTC at most times in the last 5 years and done better

>> No.29688374

>>29687603
LINK. Shit does literally nothing while shitcoins surge to the moon

>> No.29688537

>>29688339
BTC was only better if you bought in 2017/early 2018.

>> No.29688705

>>29688043
Exactly my sentiment. At least BTC has staying power that is legitimate. The fees aren’t the best and the speed isn’t the best, but I’ve never had a significant issue with BTC.


You legit can’t even use ETH right now. It’s completely broken. You morons will say it’s because I’m too poor for a $30-100 gas fee but that’s the most copium logic I’ve ever heard. The SECOND a better smart contract platform comes out it’s legitimately over for ETH. No one is going to pay $200 for a transaction. That’s beyond retarded

>> No.29688799

>>29687603
>BSC transaction numbers are faked
>CZ spread fud about ETH and stops ETH trading for several hours on Binance
>CZ chills with Justin Sun
>Justin Pays celebs to shill tron
>suddenly same celebs start to shill BNB and BSC network
>BSC also fully centralized
>Chinese Miners blackmail to not mine ETH anymore if fees decrease

Srsly, these people are full of shit and I don’t trust them. I won’t support any of this scam by investing in BSC projects since it’s a fucking cheap copy pasta of ETH Network. When EIP 1559 is out, BSC is dead.


I Wouldn’t wonder if Binance will exit scam one day.

>> No.29688970

>>29688705
Eth 2.0 is gonna fix it retard

>> No.29689087

>>29688970
Not really.
It might be something else, OMG or some other L2 solution, but not eth 2.0.

>> No.29689136

>>29688970
yeah we've been hearing that line for 4 years already fucko

>> No.29689193

>>29687603
kek you've never held ETH once in your life, BSC shill. nice try though

>> No.29689291

>>29688339
Jesus christ are u actually this retarded?

>> No.29689320

>>29688799
what do you mean exit scam?

>> No.29689332

>>29688799

It’s not even about BSC. How long until a real platform releases that can function like BSC? Is cardano actually going to release with the promises Charles made?

Isn’t every ETH owner worried that cardano just does it better? Yeah it’s a fucking ghost zombie chain until it isn’t. It’s been holding top 10 for YEARS without a product. Imagine if it releases and actually can function.

I’m not shilling any platform. I’m just saying...how the fuck does eth compete with any of these other platforms? The second a platform has a large developer base and you don’t have to pay $100 per transaction it’s all downhill for ETH.

There’s FUD for every platform. But you can’t legitimately expect people to be ok with $100 transactions. And if ETH price goes to 3k then those transactions are actually going to cost $300.

Layer 2 does nothing because there’s still the massive transaction fee to move in and out of layer 2.

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>>29688339
>he posted the ETH/BTC chart

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>>29688128
well I did it - I took a look at ETH/BTC and screencapped it for you. I just can't believe you have the audacity to call others retards...

>> No.29689425

>>29689087
is MATIC or/and OMG a safe bet?

>> No.29689469

>doesn't know about optimism launch in march
all the defi apps are moving there unironically. L2 is not a meme

>> No.29689474

>>29689193
I hold more ETH than most people on biz. BSC IS a fucking chink coin that’s going to die long term but you can’t help to do the math. BSC releases two seconds ago and has 100 decent quality dApps. Imagine another decent platform releasing with the same amount of developers.

>> No.29689550

>>29688339
look at the y-axis, that's how many BTC you need per ETH and it's generally been going up for a year and half like they said

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>>29689474
>BSC releases two seconds ago and has 100 decent quality dApps
>decent quality dapps

>> No.29689608

>>29689469

Yeah and when ETH is $2k and you’re paying $300 to get in and out of later 2 it’s not going to be a problem at all because you can trade your stupid eth for other shitcoins back and forth using a spreadsheet layered on top of a block chain

>> No.29689623

Pac Global.
I've been holding that shitcoin since 1 cents.
Today it is at 0.001852 USD.

I will never recover my money.

>> No.29689655

>>29687603
Yeah wow what a mistake buying something for a 500% gain

Just sell fucking retard

>> No.29689707

>>29689574
Pancakeswap is a decent quality dApp that does Uniswaps job better.

Imagine another non chink platform now

>> No.29689751

Fear in the ETH market.

be greedy when others are fearful

>> No.29689766

>>29688970

In 3years maybe

>> No.29689779

>>29689608
>cost me $10 to deposit into loopring
you are an absolute retard. unironically sell faggot

>> No.29689813

>>29689574
name some decent quality ETH dapps
hard mode: they have to actually do something right now and not just have a nice-looking whitepaper

All one of them is already forked to BSC

>> No.29689830

>>29689707
bro you couldn't shill harder if you tried. it's EOS all over again

>> No.29689832

>>29689608
When things start moving to layer 2, layer 1 gas fees will be much lower. You don't deserve this very basic level of spoon-feeding though because you are a faggot

>> No.29689868

I'm $80 away from losing $20,000 and lots of my parents money because of liquidation. I fucking hate ETH, i wish i never longed it. I feel sick, physically sick. i hate my life

>> No.29689934

>>29689779

Youre moving into Loopring to SELL your ETH lmao. Jesus Christ yall are retards.
Name a dApp that isn’t a $100 gas fee where you won’t be selling your ETH

>> No.29689949

>>29689751
yup, look at the chart I posted in >>29689418 every fucking time we go down to the bottom of that ascending channel the fud on /biz/ is at an all time high. this place used to be about helping fellow anons, not scaring them into selling at the worst possible time

>> No.29690027

>>29689830
because it’s the first platform with dApps what the fuck you want me to reference. There aren’t any other big platforms out yet with a decent developer base you fucking inbred.

>> No.29690032

>>29689751
No one is fearful, they just discuss fundamental flaws of the ether network.

>> No.29690058

>>29689813
i can't because to you a decent dapp is a scam token and to me a decent dapp doesn't exist anywhere yet

>> No.29690063

Serious question though
Which is the most promising L2 solution and how far away is it?

>> No.29690117

>>29689868
don't hate ETH, hate yourself for trying to outperform the market by gambling. it's going to 5x from here and that still wasn't enough for you?

>> No.29690126

>>29689949
It IS the worst time to sell. Which is why you’re going to be locked into holding ETH if you already bought it, unless you’re a half wit.

>> No.29690159

>>29689934
holy shit you are actually retarded. you know you can deposit erc20 tokens too right?
also Synthetix already is using optimism right now and they have 100M TVL. Imagine what happens when Uniswap goes there too.
>>29690063
Optimism

>> No.29690215

>>29689332
Yeah, these fees are really a pain in the ass and if price raises ofc fees will even rise too. I just hope that EIP1559 will fix this... if this happens, the price will easy 10x. ETH is where the money is in the long run.

I‘m also pretty happy that BSC exists atm even if 95% of the projects running on the network are either rugpulls or copy and paste (just check the Pancake GitHub - they didn’t even change the „uniswap“ entries).

BSC is Good for the low fees but actually it’s a cheap plagiarism. This is all Chinese people are able to (just check their market for other goods - they arent able to invent something, it’s like their culture is build on plagiarism).

>> No.29690287

>>29690063
Layer 2 just isn’t a solution. “Use layer 2” or...they could move to cardano or AVAX or cosmos or literally any other blockchain/DAG that supports smart contracts.

Layer 2 is insecure. It ruins the whole point of blockchain if the solution is just “use another layer”

>> No.29690360
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29690360

>not buying BNB

>> No.29690423

>>29690159

No fucking shit. I know how ETH works. The more you know about ETH the less confident you become

>> No.29690572

>>29690287
you have to be retarded. L2 security is directly pegged to L1 security. Imagine being this stupid, if someone wants to rollback the L2 chain they have to rollback the L1 chain too. Other chains are not as secure or decentralized as ETH.
>>29690423
imagine being this stupid. I know how ETH works too and I actually develop dapps so I 100% know you don't know what you're talkinga bout.

>> No.29690571
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29690571

>>29689707
>pancake is better than Uniswap
>pancake is literally uniswap

>> No.29690585

Cant wait for the first BNB exploit

>> No.29690677

>>29690215
>EIP1559
can you eli5 me EIP1559?

>> No.29690752

>>29689949
Yeah it’s pretty fucking dickish, I learned long ago that /biz is always wrong so I just took the fud to be bullish

>> No.29690756

>>29690572

Don’t worry. I’m probably never selling because I don’t sell low, and this shit is just going to tank to earths fucking core when decent platforms come out. Imagine thinking a network effect isn’t barricaded by $100 transaction fees

>> No.29690803

Got out at 1840, IT CAN'T FUCKING SCALE

>> No.29690840

>>29687603
I've recently interacted with the Avalanche network and now have a feeling for how shit the ethereum network is. Delivers the same, but is slower and much more expensive. Can't wait for coins to leave eth. It will happen eventually.

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>>29690756
Ok faggot. do research on pic related

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29690910

>>29690756
cringe

>> No.29691197

>the state of eth fud
A eth clone killing eth? Not to going to happen. Good luck with upgrades CZ, youll need it.

>> No.29691215

>>29688076
thanks for your bags

>> No.29691277

>>29690881
didn't know about this desu. bullish as fuck. the moment this goes live ethereum would probably 5x immediately

>> No.29691393

>>29688799
>>29688970
>>29689136
It's already fixed you retards
ETH2 was not going to fix scalability because it was going to be solved in ETH1 with L2
and this shit is already here see quickswap
transaction fees are going to go only down from here as people move from uniswap -> quickswap

>> No.29691506

>>29690063
>>29690215
>>29690803

>>>> >>29691393

>> No.29691997

Layer 2 is the gayest fucking solution. Use our fucking excel spreadsheet for your eth transactions, but oh yeah you still have to pay the original gas fee anyways so unless you’re a fucking day trading nerd it makes NO DIFFERENCE

>ya but ok so when everyone uses l2 layer 1 will be cheap!!!!

No it will be $40 cheap instead of $100 cheap. Once again, still a fucking problem. If you expect ETH to pass 2k the layer 1 has fees get more and more ridiculous and band aids don’t fix the problem. If cardano deliver a smart contract on layer 1 for pennies it’s legitimately over for ETH.

It’s a big if, but as more time passes even chinkcoins copy and pasting a better platform get better and better. It’s only a matter of time.

>> No.29692172

>>29691997
nigger, the gas fees are high because all the dexes currently spamming the network. If the dexes move to L2, the gas fees in normal ETH transactions will go low just like they were before uniswap became popular

>> No.29692249

>>29691997
can't you just sell and stop posting on /biz/? you need to be 18 to post here

>> No.29692267

>>29692172
Before uniswap was popular eth wasn’t $2k+.

>> No.29692379

>>29692172
Exit the conversation if you don’t have at least 30+ ETH please. No one wants to hear from newfags

>> No.29693045

>>29692267
Imagine thinking ETH gas fees are correlated with price.
You're actually retarded. ETH was worth more in December than July this year yet fees were lower. Imagine being this big of a brainlet and claiming to "know" eth
>>29692379
nice larp faggot

>> No.29694912

So, to conclude, is ETH excluded from now on from this bull run or you guys expect fees to go down in the upcoming weeks/months?

>> No.29694977

>>29694912
optimism launching in march
gas fees will unironically go down in a few weeks once uniswap goes on there

>> No.29695310

>>29693045

Ok so gas prices are completely irrelevant to price of ETH now. Man you guys cope HARD

>> No.29695435

>>29695310
You are unironically retarded. Gas went down from July to November while the price went up. Explain that faggot.

>> No.29695484

>>29688202

It isn’t FUD you schizo it’s a bunch of real users mad at the shitty fucking product they’re forced to use to buy pajeet coin lotto tickets

>> No.29695843

>>29695435

How much did it increase in price? 300->600? Roughly?

Now its $1500. Can barely keep 2017 ATH because every time it makes it there the prices get to $300 per transaction. It’s fucking bottle necked to oblivion.

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>>29687603
This post is brought to you by the Chinese Communist Party. Please buy our centralized coin with 21 validators. Thank you.

>> No.29695969

>>29695435

BTC hit 3x 2017 ATH and isn’t slowing down. ETh literally can’t hold 2017 ATH before gas prices shut it down.

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It's a very comfy hold. All this bullish fudding is keeping the price down. Look at problems of some competitors lately. See you all at 5k.

>> No.29697838

>>29687603
wait til uniswap v3 is using l2 lol shits gonna blast the fuck off