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29541801 No.29541801[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

how can people support unregulated capitalism while also supporting the "free market" when without fail the end result of the two combined is a x-company oligopoly that is propped up by its projected influence and market dominance alone while offering practically nothing to changing consumer demands/interests and practical innovation

doesnt seem very free to me but ok

>> No.29542239

>>29541801
because people have fucking shit for brains and think they're actually capable of comprensive understanding of complex systems when in reality they cannot even understand enough to get out of their mom's basement and stop playing video games and shitposting on vietnamese goat herding forums all day. fucking shitbrains oughta be shipped away for war as meat shields

>> No.29542328

it's all bullshit anyway. might as well make it in the process.

>> No.29542527

I don't, I'm a revolutionary communist, but I still trade and support crypto because it's one of the only remaining ways for a wagie normie to get out of wageslavery by scraping the crumbs of the big money that flows through crypto's uniquely liquid markets

>> No.29542889

>>29541801

Government is the problem, not capitalism

>> No.29542896

>>29541801
because you are supposed to chain the government with a constitution so the power id decentralized among the people. Then the ebil capitalist has to bribe you. That's how you get buy 1 sub, get 1 free.

but for some reason this concept flies over the heads of commies, even thought the founders went to great lengths to explain and and then we do it and everybody got rich.

now we live in an age of trashing our principals and then marveling about how the system has failed

>> No.29542963

>>29542527
dude, just shut the fuck up.

>> No.29543447
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29543447

>>29542527
>im a revolutionary communist but still chose to partake in one of the most unregulated, ultra capitalistic free markets in existence, because I acknowledge it's one of the best and easiest ways to build wealth, compared to the crony capitalism that plagues our society
>i dont support unregulated capitalism or free markets

>> No.29543635

>>29542527
It's a zero sum game. In order for you to win, someone else has to lose. You evil fucking pig.

>> No.29543742

>>29542527
>crypto's uniquely liquid markets
you mean crypto's..... free markets?

>> No.29543795

>>29541801
stocks are set up to fail. theres no way stocks are this fucking hard but a bunch of neets can get rich off crypto

as soon as stocks get serious gains they just turn it off

>> No.29543921
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29543921

Read a book faggot. You didn't come to these conclusions on your own you midwit bitch. You're a fucking tool and you'll be thrown into a ditch once you outlive your usefulness.

>> No.29543952

>>29541801
Corporatism is not capitalism.

>> No.29544109

>>29543447
It's funny because grandpa Santa clause also loved the German stock exchange. Being a rich trust fund baby he thought it was cute how the workers he despised were trying to get extra money to support their ailing families with. Commies are so fucking scummy.

>> No.29544642

>>29541801
If a company is that shit it's stocks would plummet, people would burn down their offices, and support for better competitors would skyrocket.

>> No.29545132

Taxes, central banking, zoning laws, and other commie bullshit just make us poorer.

>> No.29545209

>>29542527
unironically based. glad I'm not the only one

>> No.29545324

>>29544109
It was the London stock exchange you under-educated pleb

>> No.29546215

>>29545324
no one cares faggot

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29546269

>>29542527
this

>> No.29546432

>>29545132
First you need to understand how capitalism works in order to criticize something that doesn't exist and comes after capitalism. Because, none of those things are inherent to communism. I recommend reading Marx and Cockshott. But you probably won't, because you're american.

>> No.29546627

>>29541801
Thinking about things, ngmi

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>>29541801
Real capitalism has never been tried. What you think is capitalist is extremely socialist.

Big corporations exist thanks to government regulation. In the 50s there was no need for license after license, permit after permit to do any type of job.

If you wanted to be a plumber..... you just "did" it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tbVRC_oOTU

As government regulations increase, less and less small businesses exist. Why do you think that is? We have more monopolies and more big business than ever before. Why do you think that is? Do you think government regulations have increased or decreased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpFfr0niCf0
It's even worse now that covid-19 has happened. Pic related

>> No.29546775

>>29542889
>>29542527
>>29542328
>>29542239
>>29541801
the only way you get a monopoly is with government support

>> No.29546858

Fucked no matter what. But healthcare and housing should be controlled as a nesscatiy. If you think the same chuckle fucks in charge wouldn't be in charge under commie rule, think again. You build a seat of total rule and one maybe a decent person sit down for awhile. But one day a full on tyrant or retard sits down and you wonder why you built the seat. Capitalism enslaves the world and eats it. Communism lobotomizes it.

>> No.29546862

>>29546677
it has been tried and it created the greatest nation of all time, USA in 19th century. Then they started butchering it with 1000 regulations, laws, and just general corruption

>> No.29546950

>>29542527
>>29545209
>>29546269
I hope you retards appreciate how stupid you have to be to be an unironic communist and trade crypto, lmao

>How dare you kulaks have the audacity to have bread (in the form of crypto), that belongs to the people you greedy pigs

>> No.29547080

>>29546775
fucking kill yourself. Seriously. You do not deserve life for making meme comment even unironically. Faggot.

>> No.29547098

>>29546858
excellent post

>> No.29547147

>>29547080
he is 100% correct and you are the mental equivalent of a child

>> No.29547252

>>29546950
the only thing other leftists drag my crypto hobby for is the environmental impact, but those arguments are easily rebutted. nobody gives a shit and the people who would - stalinists - are all into monero anyway

>> No.29547282
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29547282

>>29541801
was Milton Friedman a liar or just too shortsighted to foresee globalism?

>> No.29547329

>>29547282
>didnt understand anything Milton every said

>> No.29547332

>>29546858
>Capitalism enslaves the world and eats it
Capitalism is the reason why you are able to type your post. It doesn't enslave people it frees them. Retards "voting" in a socialist system enslaves people.

>But healthcare and housing should be controlled as a nesscatiy.
Necessity for what? I am not responsible for your well being. You are. You are the one enslaving people by requiring it as a necessity.

>If you think the same chuckle fucks in charge wouldn't be in charge under commie rule
History literally proves you wrong. Communists take the previous regime and murders them because of wrong think. Comparing Mao to Regan and Hitler to Stalin is laughable.

>>29547098
>>29547147
Upvotes don't work like they do on Reddit.

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29547498

"wahhhhhh i want the power hungry suits ruling us to be corporate executives"
"nooooooooooooo they need to be commisars ruling us directly through the government"

Can you all please just SHUT THE FUCK UP and get back to shilling me coins to waste money on

>> No.29547504

>>29547329
he literally said international competition would take care of inevitable national monopolies

>> No.29547552

>>29541801
A free market is impossible if the guberment controls currency which is on one side of every transaction

>> No.29547561

>>29547332
>comparing Mao to Reagan is laughable
agreed, Mao actually lifted living standards

>> No.29547639

the labor theory of value is correct
check em

>> No.29547692

>>29547639
rerolling

>> No.29547735

>>29547692
guess its incorrect then...nvm

>> No.29547787

>>29542239
If people can't understand complex systems, why do you trust the government to fuck around with them?

>> No.29547888

>>29547504
do you understand that these monopolies are PROTECTED by the government, its everything Milton was against.

>> No.29547899

>>29547639
>>29547692
>>29547735
Triple nigger.

>> No.29548075

>>29547787
we need blockchain to beat the trust problem
we need computing to beat the economic calculation problem
and we need robots to beat the incentive problem
Communism is just an idea that was ahead of its time

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29548109

>>29546950

>> No.29548132

>>29546858
name one succesful communist country

>> No.29548183

>>29542239
>>29542328
>>29542527
back to plebbit

>> No.29548240

>>29548132
Here's 28:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3706593/

>> No.29548269

>>29548075
We need advanced AI to wipe out every single retarded human like you.
It was indeed ahead of its time.

>> No.29548357

>>29548132
pretty much all of them anon. almost all went from violent colonial backwaters to developed economies. except for Cambodia which was run by fucking retards

>> No.29548400

>>29548269
I just won't accept the chip and hide somewhere in Antarctica when that happens or something.

>> No.29548475

>>29548357
I'd hardly call a country successful if it just to forbid people leaving it kek. USSR was a one large prison

>>29548240
>didn't name a single country
>didn't even link to pdf
nigger

>> No.29548514

*has to forbid

>> No.29548532

>>29548400
>living under communism
>free choice on where you should live
Get ready to be allocated, human capital.

>> No.29548576

>>29547147
No he is not. Kill yourself.

>> No.29548599

>>29548109
I think the bigger point is that the best path to success is the direct opposite of their ideological ideals yet they still practice those ideals.

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29548602

>>29548240
>americans don't know how to use literature databases
have free education

>> No.29548621

>>29541801
Second day in a row that this kind of threads keep popping, have a trip to NK and see if you like it

>> No.29548630

>>29546775
How did Standard Oil started then?

>> No.29548644

>>29548602
see>>29548475

>> No.29548757

>>29548644
I'm not an american you obsessed fuck kek. Are you a russian tankie or something?

>> No.29548778

>>29548357
fuck you. the western communist is the most disgusting form of life on earth. worse ten fold than the feral nigger. you live gilded by the grace of economic competition without a use for the world. honestly you people are so fucking disgusting. you are the political equivalent of people who think they’ve discovered the real secret bitcoin with BSV.

>> No.29548797

>>29548475
repressive yes, successful also yes - by any metric you choose what the USSR achieved economically was impressive, though as soon as they stagnated in the 80s they lost legitimacy and collapsed, though Russia is hardly better off under capitalism.
the same will probably happen to the CCP at some point, they'll start to wobble when living standards start to slow

>> No.29548858

>>29548778
stay mad bootlicker. enjoy being satisfied with your lifetime of wage slavery