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(Yeah, I'm new to this.) I notice a lot of you are buying gold and silver off of websites electronically. What's your plan if the government goes greedy jew again like they did in '33? Back then people were more sheepish so they didn't really need to worry about noncompliance, but now they know more people are sick of their bullshit. This time, however, they can do it the heavy-handed way and track electronic payments and bust all of the holders with their goons. Good luck using the 'boating accident' excuse. My gut instinct tells me if they're willing to take it to the point where they will actually send men with guns to your home just because you wanted out of their scheme, they'll do ANYTHING to ensure their claws stay as tight as they can on our lives. This includes throwing people they just suspect to be hiding metal in detainment / prison until they cough up the location of the goods. The only real solution (at least I currently know of) is buying it anonymously as you can go to coin shops with cash and making sure there's as little trace as possible of you doing that. The shitty part is now you can't really use that gold during an economic crash because, hey, it's illegal now. You can't even cash some out during a normal economy because the IRS will go apeshit on you. Maybe you could still trade with some farmers for food? I don't know, I just want to get your guys input as to why and how precious metals could be used realistically and safely during a major depression, or better, cashed out legally despite being purchased anonymously.

>> No.29529080

>>29528863
Bumping this thread. Genuinely curious about this as well. Larper faggots on here will say "the government will have to take my lead before they take my metals"

>> No.29529232

The government will have to take my lead before they take my metals

>> No.29529411
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29529411

>>29528863
>Here you go mr fed.

Just buy fake gold coins. When they come back and say it's fake act all shocked and say "oh no! I can't believe I was ripped off!" Meanwhile the real coins are buried in the back 40 in schedule 40 pvc tubes

>> No.29529499

>>29529232
larp

>> No.29529558

people actually trusted the government back then because it was like 90%+ white country. has nothing to do with being "sheepish"

>> No.29529908

>>29529499
Lmao, I know right? How can people aware enough not to trust the fed also be crazy enough to believe they can actually take on the US gov't with sheer might?

>>29529411
You better be goddamn good at acting. Some of them are trained in reading body language pretty well. Besides, there's a chance they'd still be crazy enough to just assume you're lying anyway. Still not a bad last resort though.

>>29529558
Yeah, because simply having more white people = a trust worthy government. Come on.

>> No.29530159

This isn't even a good attempt at a shill thread.
I'm still buying silver and gold, faggot. Seethe more.
Sage

>> No.29530200

>>29528863
What would be easier, going door to door or setting the environment that forces people to sell their metal? Most people don't own much to begin with and those that do likely wouldn't be a threat. If it came down to it the govt would just make the buyout sweeter than last time.

>> No.29530277

>>29528863
I mean how are they going to prove I have anything?
I lost all of my PMs in an unfortunate boating accident.
What are they going to say, find it or else you are going to jail?
What about the people who really did loose or sell theirs?
They just go to jail because they cant account for everything they bought once upon a time?
I think it only worked in 33 because america was governable back then.

>> No.29530353

>>29528863
all my silver and gold was lost in a boating accident if they can find it it's theirs

>> No.29530957

>>29530353
At least yours was an accident.I lost everything because of my horrible gambling addiction.

>> No.29531281

>>29528863
i buy 925 cutlery from op shops for sweet FA, the goon squad won't be confiscating my forks bra.

>> No.29531282

>>29530159
Just trying to get us all to think about this and not have your hard work all reversed over an oversight.

>>29530200
The reason most are buying and holding gold in The US and Germany is because they're afraid of another Weimar Republic 2.0. They're not going to sell back for fiat during a depression, and would only cash out during a normal economy because they need fiat to pay for an emergency or something.

>>29530277
You underestimate the amount of sheer tyranny. Look no further than the IRS. They force YOU to do the math on your taxes despite them doing it for you ANYWAY. If YOU fuck up, you get penalized for it.

>> No.29531667

I traded all my boomer rocks for dope and fast women.

>> No.29531678
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29531678

>>29528863
>again like they did in '33
Shove the little that comes in the mail up my ass. The rest was already lost at sea while I was larping as a pirate. Arrr

>> No.29531882

>>29531678
>read the rest of the post
It's likely if they implement such a strict control that you should be leaving. Value needs to be hidden in many pots. There's no good solution. There's no good indicator. If they can take your metal somehow, it's all lost and you're only storing value at the whim of your master. Property rights are at the basis of a society worth giving a shit about and if you can't own property, you might as well abandon the whole thing.

>> No.29532375

>>29531882
>Property rights are at the basis of a society worth giving a shit about and if you can't own property, you might as well abandon the whole thing.
If I were to hold any precious metals along with my crypto, it'd be mainly for economic depressions and shit, but obviously not in the event of an apocalypse, or a government going full Orwell on everyone's ass, etc. If that were the case, your best resource is your raw skills you bring to the table like hunting, fishing, electronic repair or really anything for the particular circumstance.

>> No.29533293

>>29529080
You think we keep it? It's all about the swing trade. Fiat for life.

>> No.29533595
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>>29533293
>Fiat for life.

>> No.29533792

>>29532375
>If that were the case, your best resource is your raw skills you bring to the table like hunting, fishing, electronic repair or really anything for the particular circumstance.
Right. Financial alternatives don't really exist unless you're able to leave. Land is moot at this point too because they can just tax you into oblivion. So the 1933 question becomes somewhat less j interesting. It's like pascal's wager. Satoshi's wager includes the electric grid and inability of law enforcement to crack down on your transactions. I guess physical metal might be Schiff's wager (to keep with S's). Just remove the grid and internet portion.

>> No.29534685

>>29533792
In essence, everything is a sad, sad game of probabilities. There is no point on letting topics like this consume 100% of your mind. I simply think it's somewhat worthwhile to have a few 'backup plans' ready in case some calamity does occur. I still enjoy my spare time, surf the web, study for my career aspirations, etc, but still can't understand people who have no doubts in their mind that this system is actually invincible and even more scary, actually believe the government has their best interests at hand. I think another valid solution that could possibly work as insurance and the betterment of society is to endorse a 'personal libertarian' mindset. Even if you disagree with the concept of a libertarian society as a whole, one could be their 'own' libertarian. It's simply a philosophy I came up with that means you accept that you can simply not trust many, or hell, anyone and that you must do your goddamn best to be dependent on as few people as possible. You must be responsible for your own psyche as much as possible and turn inward rather than outward for aid.

>> No.29534797

>>29531282
>You underestimate the amount of sheer tyranny. Look no further than the IRS. They force YOU to do the math on your taxes despite them doing it for you ANYWAY. If YOU fuck up, you get penalized for it.
No I assume they are tyrants.
They still cant prove I actually still have any of the the precious metals I ever bought in the past.

>> No.29535628

>>29534797
You have a point, it's just that it's more natural for me to assume they wouldn't give a flying fuck about 'rights' in this confiscation scenario. Literally wouldn't be surprised if they wouldn't full Khmer Rogue about it. They probably are using the NSA to document these kind of posts to help narrow the 'search'.

>> No.29535990

>>29528863
>coat them in DMSO/carfentanil aerosol
>here you go, niggers

>> No.29536402

>>29535990
Absolutely based.

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29536454

>>29528863

Mining stocks weren't confiscated (Barrick Gold went up 6x during the Great Depression) you can always hedge your physical position by riding the Basedhorse.

>> No.29536702

>>29528863
Yeah nah, not reading all this fearmongering. I will continue to buy cryptos and silver. Nobody takes banning of cryptos or confiscating metals seriously ever. Government can't ban the use of them either.

>> No.29536897

>>29536702
I'm not telling you to surrender, I'm telling you to be ready for shit to happen.

>> No.29537127

>>29536897
>Be ready for shit to happen
Worst thread of the day, congrats.

>> No.29537192

>>29536897
IRniggerS and whatever the fuck is left of Washington DC can kiss my ass. Banning or trying to confiscate them will only make people buy more and more people interested.

>> No.29537210

>>29529908
>Yeah, because simply having more white people = a trust worthy government. Come on.
It implies no jews, so yes it would be trustworthy.

>> No.29537501

>>29537127
I say have backup plans ready IN CASE shit happens, and everyone paints me a schizo. Why is complacency worshiped so much?

>>29537192
I agree that it would definitely wake a bunch of people up to just how bullshit our current system is for sure, but you need to play it smart. You aren't going to get anywhere wagging a peashooter a few TLA agents. You'll just get yourself killed.

>> No.29537670

>>29529499
It's a larp until it isn't

>> No.29537748

>>29528863
they allowed people to keep $100 in gold coin per person and any 'numismatic' gold coins. $100 in gold coin was way more than the average mong at the time could afford to keep or had saved

>> No.29537787

>>29529908
Oh boy, are you one of those "give up your guns because you would never win against the government anyway" guys?

>> No.29537902

>>29528863
Gold is meant to be given to your children, not sold off at a dealer for worthless fiat.

>> No.29538277

>>29528863
Because our country is an oligarchy now and Jews own gold too. They don't want the gov taking it either

>> No.29538534

Unironically we are obligated as citizens to shoot the cops if they start forcefully seizing shit like this... if you don't, they'll go and do the same to your other fellow citizens...

If they take the silver, what else will they take? What freedoms do you have?

Unironically the answer to your question is lead.


>100 oz stacklet here, i don't think they'll go after me lel

>> No.29538586

>>29537748
It's still pretty damn immoral and suspicious that they just flat out said 'give us shiny rock or go to jail'.

>>29537787
No. But you certainly won't win if you think an armed revolution is legitimately just rushing outside like DOOM slayer and fucking shit up. Armed revolutions are incredibly tedious, hellish, and often lose in the face an overwhelming better armed, better trained force that are led by people who do that shit for a LIVING. I don't think many of the militiamen in this country actually have what it takes to stage such a fight. Most would be a burden on the 25% of them who actually have had military training under their belt that may be able to lead a formidable insurgency, but even then the odds aren't looking good.

>>29537902
No shit. The idea is not being forced to partake in the 'save money (fiat)' scam.

>>29538277
The rich, or shall I say the rich jews in the American government, don't want you getting out of the fiat scam while they own the gold. This way they control your financial life more, thus controlling your overall life more.

>> No.29538753

>>29528863
By the time this is an issue I'll have made it and moved to another country without extradition so Uncle Sam can kiss my ass.

>> No.29539695

>>29538586
>No. But you certainly won't win if you think an armed revolution is legitimately just rushing outside like DOOM slayer and fucking shit up. Armed revolutions are incredibly tedious, hellish, and often lose in the face an overwhelming better armed, better trained force that are led by people who do that shit for a LIVING. I don't think many of the militiamen in this country actually have what it takes to stage such a fight. Most would be a burden on the 25% of them who actually have had military training under their belt that may be able to lead a formidable insurgency, but even then the odds aren't looking good.

Words of wisdom. To put it in terms 4chinz can understand, imagine that time you tried to explain something to an arrogant and retarded newfag. Now imagine doing that in real life, for years, under stress, with torture and death waiting for you if you fuck up even once.

On the plus side though this:
>better trained force
Will not be true for much longer. The political purges of the armed forces will push out the competent people, AKA right wing white males, and replace them with lesbian Shaniquas. This won't be Rambo coming for you and your stack of silver.

>> No.29540184

>>29529908
>simply having more white people = a trust worthy government. Come on.
Yes. When whites aren’t the majority, they will not trust anyone and often hold their own agendas.

>> No.29540303

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9KBwqGxTI&t=3s lost everything, but my life.

>> No.29540392

>>29539695
>The political purges of the armed forces will push out the competent people, AKA right wing white males
That’s because the right wing white males are against the government now. The moment the silver squeeze starts is the moment the government is powerless.

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>>29540392
>The moment the silver squeeze starts is the moment the government is powerless.
Powerless is too strong of a word but their power will degrade in an exponential fashion. We're already seeing this happen. I would say that the silver squeeze if it happened this year would be significant but not decisive.

>> No.29540818

>>29528863
It was said they only took gold bullion and coins but not arts or jewelry made with gold. Just melt it down into a really thick chain necklace and you're good.

>> No.29540859

The government did not go door to door in the 1930s. Those who did part with the metal lost 70% of their wealth, so no one in their right mind will hand it over again.
The fed doesn’t need it anyway, we’re not on a gold standard and they have the most gold in the world.

There will be black markets popping up too as everyone tries to sidestep the inflation tax.

>> No.29541839

>>29534685
>everything is a sad, sad game of probabilities.
It's only sad because power is relinquished to those who desire to control and oppress others. I'm not prepping per se, nor obsessed. I happen to be very passionate about property, contracts, and mutual trust. Violations of these things I am equally passionate about. We're definitely in the same boat. I just have a feeling that the 1933 option is less likely to be enforceable on PM than crypto.

>> No.29542009

>>29535628
>The govt is going to outlaw personal possession and throw gasoline onto the fire at a time of great civil unrest and division and go after the meager holdings of random people posting on 4chan's /biz/ instead of simply directing the comex to prioritize silver deliveries to the industries that need it before sending out silver to retailers
And you wonder why no one takes you seriously and calls you a shill? Fuck off, no one gives a shit about your FUD bullshit. You must be feeling awfully desperate and afraid of retail investment momentum of the younger crowds shifting from your internet memecoin bags toward an actual real asset with value.

>> No.29542102

>>29531282
>You underestimate the amount of sheer tyranny. Look no further than the IRS. They force YOU to do the math on your taxes despite them doing it for you ANYWAY. If YOU fuck up, you get penalized for it.
You can blame TurboTax lobbying, actually. The irs has been seeking to simplify taxes (for better or for worse). They want more compliance so they want things to be automated and done internally, but TurboTax paid off a few bueaucats and now we're still filing for simple 1099s and W2s.

>> No.29542131

>>29540595
>We're already seeing this happen. I would say that the silver squeeze if it happened this year would be significant but not decisive.
It’s incredibly decisive. The whole globalhomo system depends on infinite money and they don’t have the support of the United States military anymore. Basically, they will have nothing.

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>>29542009
When you say it like that, it makes me more fearful, anon

>> No.29542185

>>29528863
good luck finding my stash.
I put my silver and gold in air vacuumed bags and berried it in my property.
about 2000 oz of silver and 50 oz of gold.

>> No.29542187

>>29528863
people who didn't turn in their gold were ignored, there really was not enforcement action.

>> No.29542284

>>29528863
They won't. Gold holds value as an investment commodity, but it doesn't back the system like it did before the gold standard was abandoned in 1973.
There's much less incentive to steal gold, since the foundation of our economy is now military force and collective delusion.

>> No.29542292

>>29528863
oh and about your "economy crash"
just like how its PERFECTLY legal to sell gold and silver in Venezuela, it gonna be here as well.

>> No.29542412

>>29542187
Yea and they later forgave all people that didnt turn it in. There was literally no downside to not giving it to them. Don't talk about it, don't brag, just keep it under the floorboards.

>> No.29542897

>>29542412
what happened afterwards though anon? The only thing that got the US out of the economic shitter, and then into prosperty was ww2 wasn't it?

So when ww3 happens, what do we do? No internet, no communication thats unmonitored, the 2020s and 2030s are going to suck ass.... but i hope to see you all in the 2040s

>> No.29542978

>>29542009
Actually, I planned on doing both metals and crypto. They both have their upsides. I wasn't trying to attack and specific currency choice, but wanted to see how people were going to go about protecting and using their assets.

>>29542292
Yeah, no one is going to give a fuck about what the law says when their starving. That's why Venezuelans are even using Bitcoin down there now.

>>29542412
Good. People shouldn't have to face penalty for literally owning a resource that doesn't endanger anyone.

>> No.29543047

>>29529411
Nah, got mine buried in Schedule 35
Took the money I saved to buy more gold

>> No.29543562

>>29529908
>Yeah, because simply having more white people = a trust worthy government. Come on.
Yes.

>> No.29543998

>>29528863
To be fair my understanding of the gold “confiscation” is that they convinced the people who held gold that it was the cause of the depression and the retards fell for it and turned in there gold and no doors were kicked down to retrieve said gold

>> No.29544199

>>29528863
This might of happened in america before but has never happened in the U.K. the most trusted financial centre in the world

>> No.29544242

>>29542284
Good thing there's anons like this one on biz who aren't absolute retards.

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>>29542284
/thread. why is op a fag and also retarded?

>> No.29545591

>>29544423
OP is a fag... that is the rule

We wouldn't want him breaking that rule now do we?

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>>29542009
this!

This year shit is going down and it will go far beyond silver, because of the bankster's inability to 'print' commodities like they print fiat or shitcoin protocols. summer 2021, the rotshchild rockefeller system is going to come crashing down...a historical once in a 600 year event type economic crash. Nobody will be spared. A global metals panic will happen except instead of toilet paper and bleach, fools with fiat are going to desperately search for gold and silver but will find nothing! By end of 2021 we will be in a global precious metal standard with the price of an ounce of silver being the reference global monetary unit for all international banking, pricing of currencies and foreign exchange! This is because the enormous need for industry to physically hoard their own stash of silver once COOMEX defaults will manifest into a global metals panic since silver is a monetary metal.

Lets say the trust funds, big banks and worst of all insurance companies lose confidence in fiat and put 5% of their valuation into silver? AXA alone putting 5% of its cash into silver could purchase all the bullion currently existing. Imagine if it was on a global scale, it would leak to all tangible assets, even wood or grains of sand at this point. It would entirely halt the production of everything and push price discovery of every commodity sky high.

This is why the system needs an exit strategy by creating a whole world of infinite fiat resources that can be created at will : the crypto-space. You can create 100 billions XRP and then tomorrow morning add 100000 billions of a new shitcoin and it wont impact the real world in the slightest. Just sponges to soak up fiat fed printed money!

Silver and gold are the canary in the coal mine because they historically have been money for the past 5000 years and have all the functions asked to be a perfect medium of exchange (fungible, divisible, portable, durable, uniform). GLOBAL METALS PANIC INCOMING!

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>>29545709
fucking JIDF strikes again...

I want that mug though

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>>29542284
GOVTS HAVE NO CHOICE BECAUSE THEY CANT PRINT GOLD OR SILVER!

If the US seizes gold or silver it means USD has reached Mugabe Zimbabwe currency status. What they will do is raise interest rates cut spending across the board! Game over GREAT RESET! We are going back to the 90s economy. The west, London and New York are able to run a credit DEBT BASED economy because they are the price discovery centers for gold and silver. This allows them to keep the price of precious metals low thereby increasing the purchasing power of the dollar and the pound eliminating inflation. This year they are going to lose that power! This has nothing to do with being a gold or silver bug. This is a geopolitical event.

2020 Last year the US UK lost the petrodollar!
https://web.archive.org/web/20210103010525/https://jonsnewplace.wordpress.com/2020/04/01/covid-19-ten-things-to-think-about/

This year, 2021 US UK Israel are going to lose the power over pricing of precious metals! The power to control inflation via COMEX AND LBMA SILVER AND GOLD SHORTS TO INFLUENCE PRICE DISCOVERY! HYPER METALS INFLATION ECONOMY INCOMING!!!

COVID PSYOP WILL SHUT DOWN BEFORE 2021 IS OVER! BILL GATES WILL OWN NOTHING AND HE WILL BE HAPPY! SILVER STACKERS WILL BE RICHER AND BUILD BACK BETTER!

>> No.29545941

>>29528863
Kek most people didn’t actually turn in their gold in 33, it’s a scare tactic to get newfags to turn it in. Would require far too much manpower to go after every stacker. If anything, they’ll just nationalize Metal mines

>> No.29547297

>>29545941
a LOT of them did anon, that's what actually let them turn the depression around, they literally used the people to turn it around

>> No.29547721

>>29529908
>Yeah, because simply having more white people = a trust worthy government. Come on.
i absolutely can see a country with a homogeneous culture and background being more likely to have trust

>> No.29547835

It doesn’t bother me because I have nothing to lose and everything to gain if it comes to that.

>> No.29548083

You retards are getting delusional... you will take meds long term if you don't get in touch with reality. Good luck for you all, base your life in facts...

>> No.29548224

glowie thread

>> No.29548358

>>29528863
Didn't know this was a thing. You're absolutely right.
Boomer rocks confirmed retarded. I feel dumb for ever buying it.

>> No.29548367

>>29528863
>>29529908
>>29538586
That Comex shill trying a new strategy.

There are numerous ways to save your precious metals in such cases.

> Inb4 the military/police will come and take it
They actually refuse orders, when met with armed resistance from civilians. Because that would mean shooting your own people, which almost all of them arent willing to do. They also cant search through every house in America at once. More than enough time to relocate it.

Just dont put it in any bank safe.

>> No.29548370

>>29547721
kek, check literally any shithole in africa... they're ALL homogenous

>> No.29548663

>>29545855
based schizo

>> No.29548956

>>29548367
>Because that would mean shooting your own people

US military is full of niggers and spics. If you don't think they would happily massacre white "racist terrorists", you've got another thing coming.

Btw periods of unrest anywhere in the world show that government forces eagerly mass murder civilians even if they are their countrymen.

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29549023

>>29528863
"I believe I lost them in a boaking accident"

>> No.29549046

muh land of the free. you cant even move to another country to avoid tax.

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>>29528863
"I learned there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big gun, I'm all ready, you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me."

-- Dr. Seuss

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>>29548370
>homogenous
yeah, filled with niggers

>> No.29549198

>>29537210
My experience as an American living in America for 26 years is that the white American Has kiked me much much much than any jew anywhere in the world. White people do everything as cheap as possible as long as it’s legal. Makes Chinese products look good even. In all, I just want to say that you’re wrong. A land full of whites is the same as kikes.

>> No.29549240

They will go for other stuff before gold and silver. Not enough people stack these days.

>> No.29549802

>>29529558
It was already controlled by kikes, as we all (should) know.

>> No.29549819

>>29545709
Wha funny to me is that we wouldn’t even have inflation if the governments in the world did their job and stopped monopolies and price gouging and set a limit to how much profit any good and service can make.

Remember that everything that is expensive is expensive because MUHH COST OF PRODUCSHION

if we start from the source and stop being from fucking overcharging at the source nobody has an excuse to make absurd profits.

>> No.29549886

>>29529080
>>29528863

"I lost my gold and silver in a boating incident officer"

>> No.29549982

>>29549819
nobody would make absurd profits if things were done in silver. Most of the profits all originate from the fact that the money is just being created, and injected into the economy out of thin air.

Silver kills all of that. You can't make TOO much more than your employees if everything is paid in silver... hence why the ceo:employee wage was like 5x in any given corporation during the silver dollar era

>> No.29550109

>>29548663
Even his archive link is a schizos ramblings about how iran would defeat the US, kek.

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>>29528863
I'd like to see them try

>> No.29550341

>>29535990
kek