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some of you guys are alright, make sure to be all in BSV tomorrow

>> No.29524521
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29524521

>>29523638
i only have 20bsv, Am I going to make it?

>> No.29524685

>>29524521
in a couple of years

>> No.29524722

>>29524521
selll them and buy back at 5$ tomorrow.

>> No.29524942

All in with 90 BSV since $85

Thinking about converting 0.5 btc for the lulz tonight

>> No.29524959

i have seen so many dates posted about bsv
nothing ever happens tho

>> No.29525092

>>29524959
"the boy who cried wolf", remember that story?

>> No.29525120

>@satoshi tweet
>rolling iceberg orders
>saturn
<soon

>> No.29525305

>>29525092
peter schiff been calling for economic collapse and $5000 gold since i can drink beer and man am i old...
don't think there is a limit to how long you can be wrong about stuff.

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>>29525305
so true

>> No.29525592

>>29525305
You know the wolf came, right?

>> No.29525622

>>29525120
@satoshi is suspended account

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>>29525622

>> No.29525827
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>>29525761

>> No.29525903

>>29525827
>double spend on January 21st, 2021
>entirely ignored by the media and anons

>> No.29526214

>>29525761
What happened in Dec 2019 I missed it

>> No.29526284

>>29525120
>nour

>> No.29526386

>>29525827
Hahaha holy shit i forgot about this garbage.

>> No.29526541

>>29526214
bch and bsv split
massive market dump
@satoshi made those tweets and the mastercard army got it banned
I think calvin ayre claimed that th signature is made from block nine or something

>> No.29526557

>>29525305
lol, I remember him and Max Keiser foaming at the mouth for 10k gold 10 years ago or something

>> No.29526713

>>29526541
cut and paste signature again

>> No.29526791

>>29526713
where was it first posted?

>> No.29526860

>>29525592
and ate grandma and the hunter stuffed him with stone yes i remember

>> No.29526966
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29526966

Fuck all Australians

>> No.29526981

>>29526791
not sure but https://albacore.io/faketoshi

>> No.29526998

>>29525761
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h(m): 6ecae1c5d358f540dfae1d69bbf7bf839fb56804ab2cbe39bee4f13898ef3223
check this one out...


https://pastebin.com/tNdZRCrW

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Signature valid? True
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key_hash + checksum = 0062e907b15cbf27d5425399ebf6f0fb50ebb88f18 c29b7d93
bitcoin address = 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

>> No.29527065

>>29526981
indeed...

>> No.29527098

>>29525092
This I’m in bsv and always post dumb meme dates so that no one sees it coming when it does happen

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>>29523638
>>29524521
>>29525305
>>29525554
>>29525827
>>29525761
Craig Wright and OG Bitcoin Developer Mike Hearn reposted one of Mike’s articles on Forking projects and the long term impact of differing visions driving them in different directions.
>they shared the 2015 article on Feb. 20th, 2021
>on Feb 21st, 2021 Elon Musk changes his profile picture to the “fork in the road” included within Mike Hearn’s 2015 article
>Elon changes his tag line on Facebook to “Meta Fork”
Extra sauce:
>Elon tweets about “Dojo DOGE”
>Dojo is an AI software used to analyze, sort, and break apart video footage in real time — and exists on something called the metanet
>Metanet is a project developed by Nchain
>Metanet is ran on the BSV network
>Nchain is owned by Craig Wright and it is rumored Mike Hearn has been working with them as of late
Rumor is Elon finally read the white paper and is aware that BSV is the original Bitcoin project outlined by Satoshi’s white paper and may be using its tokenized asset protocol to fork DOGE onto the Metanet (something he’s discussed doing because whales manipulate the economy).

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>>29527177
Hope that’s plain enough for ya. “Who is Shadders?” Shadders is another Bitcoin Dev who moves to the BSV project. Elon has mentioned Mars Coin by name as of late.
>Pic related

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>>29527177
>>29527245
>>29527177
>>29527245
Last post for now. On January 21st, 2021 there was a Bitcoin Double Spend that resulted in $21 being spend twice on the Segwit network, confirming a longstanding bug and effectively removing the “finite supply” value of BTC (core). The media ENTIRELY overlooked the issue even though it caused a 15% “correction” in the form of a flash crash once word got out. If you look at the date on Shadder’s minting of MarsCoin it was February 21st, 2021 — the same day Elon changed his profile picture and profile description to refer to Mike Hearn’s Article on blockchain forking. The message in the genesis block of the Tokenized MarsCoin? “-21”
>abre tus ojos

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>elon musk

>> No.29527640

>>29527177
convoluted fucking horseshite.
but, what else is new

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>>29527177

>> No.29527840

>>29527640
Can’t address the tech
>doesn’t talk about Veribit — the first BSV Metanet exchange where the users own their own private keys (exchange killer)
>doesn’t discuss the normie friendly HandCash app allowing Global fiat -> BSV payments
>doesn’t discuss MoneyButton and the simple HTML API that allows developers to mint their own BSV tokenized assets at the click of a button
>doesn’t discuss AnyPay which allows BSV holders to spend there BSV for irl profits anywhere Apple Pay is available
>doesn’t even know what it means for a project to be Turing complete let alone have a finished backend that allows development on top of the base asset
>doesn’t know what a double spend is let alone why it’s a death blow to the BTC Core project
You’re a retarded Faggot who can only point fingers without discussing specifics because you hope it’ll turn someone away. When in reality the project gaining public momentum would kill out 99% of the industry because the original bitcoin as described in Satoshi’s white paper (not Core which has become a big bank endorsed “store of value”) can do everything every project from IOTA to Ethereum can do under a single roof.

I’d say off yourself pajeet but then you wouldn’t get to see how big this’ll get now that people are waking up. Can’t put this rabbit back in the hat retard

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>>29527769
This goes for you too bubba
>>29527840

>> No.29527918

>>29527840
do you hold XRP by any chance

>> No.29528001

>>29523638
when the feel so real you pull out the steel

>> No.29528052

I'm in for BSV but you guys need to stop posting retard schizo shit and actually start promoting the good parts of BSV. The whole Elon actually bought BSV not BTC rhetoric isn't true, nor is the fact that Mike Hearn is working on BSV.
Start promoting Metanet etc. and stop posting retard schizo threads daily

>> No.29528111

>>29523638
Nice, just 10x long BSV tomorrow!

>> No.29528125

>>29526998
>https://pastebin.com/tNdZRCrW
>This page is no longer available. It has either expired, been removed by its creator, or removed by one of the Pastebin staff.

>Posts genesis block signature: 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

>> No.29528253

>>29528052
this is 4channel not the annual symposium on normative beliefs and how to have them

>> No.29528344

I’m not really into bdsm at all but being a BSV holder since the fork and a buyer of more along the way makes you wonder
Tomorrow better be good

>> No.29528419

>>29528052
The biggest hinderance to BSV is the people shilling it. lol

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>>29527918
I hold a small bag. XRP is one of many “pre-selected” coins intended to “win” in the long run but I don’t follow the community or developments in any meaningful way. Have a 10,000 coin bag from sub 10 cents I’ve all but forgotten even exists

>>29528052
Reread my posts and come to understand none of what you said was inferred or brought up. Nobody cares if Elon bought BSV or not because it’s irrelevant to the actively available technology that is already running on the BSV network.

>>29527352
Article on the double spend as reported by BitMex on January 21st, 2021
>https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-double-spend-spotted-in-the-wild
>>29527322 #
Important to note there is no “plan”. The last thing the bankers want is a disruptive technology taking away their pleb Gibbs through the localization of industry to force fees upon the populous. BSV will only succeed if fags start doing their own research and seeing the extent of knowledge that has been withheld from them.

Fuck anyone wanting to keep people from learning and realizing the wool that’s been pulled over others eyes. Anyone who spends 30 minutes playing around on the BSV product infrastructure can immediately see it shits on every other project currently on the market
>t. Been using Bitcoin as a currency since 2011 at sub $5 levels

>> No.29528543

>>29528419
I'm a monero maxi and sometimes I feel the same way lol

>> No.29528614

>>29528543
Isn't the supply of Monero insanely high?

>> No.29528630

>>29523638
>xrpaypig threads
>tron threads
and now
>bsv threads
are coming back
2018 crash here we come

>> No.29528634

>>29528419
People just don’t understand the tech. Which is understandable when you see projects like McDonalds Coin, ApuCoin, EGG, and other bullshit.

If they understand what is already available to work with on the BSV network the entire industry would be over because most of the current projects would be rendered obsolete. BSV literally has tokenized assets with unlimited scaling (currently up to 50k transactions per second). It would kill Ethereum, just think about the implications of that statement for a minute and then maybe people will come to understand why it’s the most shorted asset in crypto.

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>>29528614
it will only exceed bitcoins supply in 2040.

>> No.29529037

>>29528344
Fuck I know this feel.

>> No.29529085

>>29528634
Why did the BSV people even promote the Satoshi larp though? That has seriously hurt their project.

>> No.29529096

>>29528494
>qtard holds xrp

Checks out.

>> No.29529161

>>29528694
Coinbase says there is an insane supply of Monero. I literally bought Dash instead of Monero because of that. lol

>> No.29529189

>>29528494
I'm just saying this is the rhetoric as of late when it comes to BSV threads. But I could talk about some of the schizo shit you've brought up if you like?
Like the double spend on the 21st? Which didn't happen?
If you try to trick people into buying into BSV by shilling false rumors rather than shilling good projects happening with BSV or good development in the BSV community then you're not gonna get true support. People can do their own research and realise this shit ain't true. Just stop.

>> No.29529201

>>29529085
Why did CSW?

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>>29529161
come hang out in the xmr general sometime and see what it's all about.

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>> No.29529309

>>29529201
That's what I'm saying. They should have just said they wanted a SHA256 multipurpose platform.

>> No.29529383

>>29529267
Will do, fren. Honestly I don't see it on here too much though. Just the SMG and PMG threads.

>> No.29529490

>>29529383
>>29502671

>> No.29529582

>>29529283
Originally I was one of the “why doesn’t creg sign” guys but then I thought about how jewish some people are and I imagined the level of Jewry which could be directed at me if I had a massive Satoshi sized target on my back and I laid all my cards on the table without preparing everything in advance and setting all the right traps, then I understood completely

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>>29529189
Youre fucking retarded, the double spend did happen on the 21st and was first reported by BitMex as a part of their market watch protocol. The only explanation that came out of it was “well we don’t know what happened but it’s such a rare event let’s just overlook it!” Even though industry leaders admitted the 15% price correction that day was a direct result of the attack.

There is no plan, and those who don’t want the Elon Bread Crumbs have hundreds of other positive things to play with within the BSV network to help solidify the position in their minds.

Refute ANY of this:
>>29527840
The sad truth is you can’t and you won’t even attempt to because it’s not an angle you can work your bullshit on. Tech is tech, and the tech works. I’m sorry it will kill your 30+ “DeFi” apps and your L1/L2 network bags but frankly that isn’t my problem.

BitMex discussing the double spend:
>https://www.twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1352256363704037377
Link to the Stale Block:
>https://blog.bitmex.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/losing.txt

>>29529096
My holdings are BTC, ETH, BSV, LINK, IOTA, HBAR, ROSE, XRP, and NANO. That’s in order of gross value as well. If you’ve read even a single industry report put out by the World Economic Forum (GLOBAL BANKS) you’d see why XRP isn’t a terrible hold but fuck buying at anything above 20 cents. Go watch some tranny porn; the adults are talking.

>> No.29529720

>>29529582
there have already been lawsuits for 10 billion leveled against him. How are you this low IQ? Don't answer, you're actually too dumb for me to waste my time talking with.
https://www.coindesk.com/satoshi-craig-wright-sued-10-billion

>> No.29529943

>>29529720
Did the Jew comment hit you personally? My bad it was just a figure of speech kinda like how people say “I got gypped” was derived from gypsy hate but morphed into everyday language before everything became so gay and PC, kids say the darnedest things
Anyway I don’t see how if I were creg, me signing would make things better for me, so I’d drag it out. Just me though

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>>29529085
>>29529201
You do know Craig has signed Satoshi’s keys to some of the leading cryptographers in the world.. Right?

It also doesn’t matter if Craig is or isn’t satoshi, but your inability to look past this one issue to see the most innovative tech in the industry is eyebrow raising
>but Craig!
>Craig said
>Craig did
>isn’t Craig
>why did craig
It’s wild to see the mind games people will play with themselves to avoid doing any meaningful research on a given subject. Do either of you even know what a Sybil attack is?

>> No.29530089

>>29529646
>https://insights.deribit.com/market-research/was-there-a-bitcoin-double-spend-on-jan-20-2021/
I'm done with this thread. Typing to hostile schizos without enough braincells to DYOR isn't the way I want to spend my evening.

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>>29529970
I will believe it when I see it. It's dead simple to sign a message with your private keys. He hasn't done it publicly, because he doesn't have satoshi's private keys. Simple fact, cocksucking faggot.

>> No.29530339

>>29529970
Well Gavin also said he was probably bamboozled. I personally don't care if you show me ten people that have NDA's and swear that Craig signed. The point is that the goofy shit they do hurts their reputation. That's not even mentioning the fact that they've stated that they want to make idle wallets mineable.

>> No.29530521

>>29530096
Look I agree, I think Cregs as much of a faggot as you are, but think about it.
He doesn’t sign publicly yet because once he does it shifts the leverage.
I’m not saying creg is Satoshi but if you don’t understand this POV you are clearly a bottom tier man.
Protect yourself and your family above all. And learn to play chess.

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>>29530089
This is not what BitMex attests to
>https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1351862939452641286
Link to Stale Block3
>https://blog.bitmex.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/losing.txt
If you “Solved” the problem then reach out to them and offer to spell it out for them faggots I’m sure you see something they don’t

Inb4 “IT WAS AN RBF!”
>gets shit from the entirety of the industry including their funding partners
>yeah sure guys even though the tech doesn’t agree with this conclusion fuck it if it gets you off our ass sure we’ll say it’s an RBF
Source:
>https://forkmonitor.info/stale/btc/666833
Nice to know you’re leaving retard don’t come back

>> No.29530765

>>29529161
LMAO retard

>> No.29530767

>>29530581
ah yes, the world famous bitmex research center
>no one can repeat it
its all so tiresome that people like you are paid so little to not only eat lies but also push them out onto others.

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>>29530767
Yes pajeet tell us more about how BitMex has no authority in the space even though their report caused a 15% market correction.
>low effort pajeets get the rope
Even now you refuse to discuss the tech behind BSV and resort to character attacks. You stick out like a sore thumb and more people are learning as a result of your faggotry so thank you for that I suppose.

>> No.29530995

>>29523638
People who own BSV and BCASH are cocksucking niggers. 0xBitcoin is the real Bitcoin on Ethereum. If you bought BSV you bought fake Bitcoin.

>> No.29531048

>>29530765
I deserve that

>> No.29531128

>>29530995
ETH has higher fees than BTC though. lol

>> No.29531312

>>29530960
ok so repeat the btc flaw.
1. you know it can be done
2. you know how to do it.

Free BTC 4 U, post proof when you're done.
As far as the fucking tech goes? What Tech? The tech he stole from the guy who tried to steal Bitcoin's brand? Robert Ver? Literally every other project is outshining this retarded little project. XRP has more development, pokadot, all this other shit. Craig doesn't develop he spends 99.999999% of his time in court and plagiarizing his papers. Again too low IQ for me to waste my time with.

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>>29531312
>too low IQ for me to waste my time with
Yet here you are.. in a BSV thread.. wasting your time lol

>> No.29532241

>>29530096
that is not a correct application of logic to establish a fact. there are multiple reasons why he wouldn't want to sign. if you can't entertain any, you are probably a laser eyed smooth brain.

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>>29530995
Friendly reminder Coinbase quietly added BSV deposits and withdrawals on January 21st, 2021.
>https://help.coinbase.com/en/coinbase/getting-started/crypto-education/bitcoin-sv-faq
Wat do?
>Send .001 BSV to BCH wallet
>????
>profit

>> No.29532430

>>29529309
Honestly think that could have worked. The focus of discussion was and largely still is creg. The tech stands on its own. Gotta say though our opponents talk about creg an awful lot as well. It's typically their only criticism of BSV because they don't have the tech.

>> No.29532568

>>29532430
The BSV community talks about Craig mostly. I do see a lot of BTC maxi's talk about him too. The whole thing seems like a waste.

>> No.29532724

>>29529646
>xrp schizo posters invading bsv threads now

The ONLY coins worth holding are BSV and XMR with BTC as a hedge. Dilate nigger

>> No.29532786

>>29532378

>on January 21st, 2021.

Sauce? Interesting

>> No.29532819

>>29529970
I believe in the tech and hate creg. Fuck you.

>> No.29532821

>>29532786
That's the date of the BTC double spend apparently.

>> No.29532937

>>29532821
No doublespend happened:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311197.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311557.0

>> No.29532978

>>29532724

Are you me? This is pretty much my portfolio for the past 6 months, no ETH or BNB bullshit

>> No.29533085

>>29530995
nice bait

>> No.29533117

>>29532937
See:
>>29530581

>>29532786
Don’t have any sauce, but that was the day BSV users first realized deposits and withdrawals had been enabled. If you ask core users on twitter they’ll flip out and tell you deposits aren’t enabled.. even though all you have to do is send BSV to your BCH address >=)

>> No.29533174

>>29532724
Not wrong fren. When and if the alleged crash occurs XMR is my exit strategy

>> No.29533229

>>29527177
Doge yes, BSV no. Sorry

>> No.29533283

>>29533117

Man this is all getting so weird. It's like bsv is the elephant in the room

>> No.29533483

>>29533283
Yeah. Major vibe shift recently. I've been STIFFpilled since last year but seems like things are about to happen.

>> No.29533889

>>29533283
>>29533483
I think most just got tired of trying to sustain any kind of presence here with the vitriol that gets spewed towards bsv. now there's a bit of a push we all come out of the woodwork to chime in. Something is happening though. Derek Moore said today Terranode is going to be open sourced. I wonder if that will be announced in conjunction with some big data coming on chain.

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>>29533229
Here for it either way fren! Don’t forget about shadder’s MarsCoin tokenized asset minted on 02-21-21
>>29527245

>>29533283
>>29533483
Things are certainly coming to a head one way or the other.

Pic related was in 2011 purchasing $5 BTC off Silk Road market vendors using GreenDot Money Paks.
>elephant in the room
when I learned about what exists within the BSV network I was beyond pissed off at the fact it’s been suppressed to the extent it has. We deserve better than what we currently have anons.. people are waking up and they’re waking up quickly.

>> No.29535046

>>29528001
Bump

>> No.29536090

Any good bsv wallets out there?

>> No.29536415

>>29536090
exodus

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>>29532378
fuck i'm ready for BSV pump greetings from russia

>> No.29536645

>>29536090
Electrum SV

>> No.29536719

Thanks. Now if only atomic wallet would finish my exchange. It’s been over an hour.

>> No.29536922
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>>29536485
Greetings comrade!
>>29536090
Electrum SV for long term, if you’re looking to utilize it on any of the BSV platforms a hot wallet like MoneyButton or Handcash are very easy to navigate

>> No.29536941
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29536941

I asked his in another BSV but didn't get a great answer, is there an anon in this thread who can give me satisfaction?

BSV claims to have massive throughput of transactions due to large block sizes
but these blocks are still being mined every 10minutes?
the apps and the Metanet built into BSV runs at six iterations per hour? do I have that right?

next, what stops China from concentrating the BSV hashrate the same way they have done for BTC?

here have a booba as advance compensation for answers to above

>t. new BSV holder

>> No.29537282

Run down on BSV please, what is its special sauce?

>> No.29537405

>>29536941
I am by no means an expert in this and I could be wrong, but as far as I know blocks are dynamic, their sizes vary related to the transactions performed

check this - https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/blocks

I also believe that a hashrate dominance is impossible due this very reason ( dynamic block sizes )

But then again - Im just a brainlet and I might be wrong, this is just my understanding

>> No.29537615

>>29527918
>do you hold XRP by any chance
hey! come on now! I'm all in XRP and wouldn't touch BSV even if this CW glownigger had a gun to my fucking head.

>> No.29537621

BSVtards worry me

>> No.29537804

I'm cool with schizo theories, this is 4chan and all; but the idea that Tesla didn't buy BTC but and that they bought BSV is insane. Tesla is a publicly traded company and they can't just lie about what that money was used for and mislead investors with a "aha, we bought THE REAL BTC" AHJAHAHAHAHA, PSYCHE BITCH!

>> No.29537821

>>29536941
>but these blocks are still being mined every 10minutes?

yes bitcoin protocol adjust difficulty every 2016 blocks so that it takes on average 10 minutes to solve the next solution.

If a miner tries to publish a block too large, he can't share that block fast enough to everyone, so a competitor might have theirs disseminated before him. The mining herd march on, the stragglers fall away and die. The ones at the front of the pack lead the way but if they shoot too far ahead they have no herd protection

>> No.29537881

>>29536941
0conf

>> No.29537918

>>29536941
>what stops China from concentrating the BSV hashrate the same way they have done for BTC?

nothing really, but if the Chinese government clamps down, or the US see china controlling the global financial network, then they would be incentivised to invest in infrastructure also. Chinese miners do not have it as easy as you would think. Their business is very risky

>> No.29538006

>>29537282
the whitepaper

>> No.29538276

How are big blocks useful without external datafeeds? Or is BSV's approach to data validation a hope and a prayer?

>> No.29538400

>>29538276
external datafeeds are already enabled
BSV has in-built oracle system
You are 10 years behind it seems

>> No.29538629

>>29538276
External datafeeds are unnecessary. All relevant data will be published to the Blockchain.

>> No.29538797

>>29538400
>>29538629

And how are they validated?

>> No.29538872

>>29538797
Quickly.

>> No.29538900

>>29538797
>Bittrex publishes price data to the Blockchain using its key
>wtf sirgay validate this

Really stinky?

>> No.29538937

>>29538872
How about accurately? What is the validation process for these blocks?

>>29538900
And is Bittrex getting paid to do this?

>> No.29539080

>>29538797
>
Bro if you actually spend some time to research on BSV you will find that oracles were a thing way before chainlink and Serjesh

>> No.29539185

>>29539080
>Bro if you actually spend some time to research on BSV

How can I do any research when any time I search for this shit all I get are anons schizoposting about Craig Wright, NESARA, and the Q connections?

>> No.29539248

Why would someone shill if they believed in the project?

Good luck tomorrow retards.

>> No.29539291

>>29539185
They're just asking you to read their schizopost ramblings.

>> No.29539325

>>29528494
>been using bitcoin since $5
Still poor enough to post on /biz/ with red flags everywhere. Yikes. You bought research chemicals and went insane, didn’t you?

>> No.29539398

>>29539291

Well they succeeded in getting me to read their scribblings, but they didn't actually answer any of the questions I asked in any of them. I don't even disagree with BSV's point that big blocks make bitcoin scale, but there's just more to it than scaling.

>> No.29539432

>>29529646
It wasn’t a double spend. I would send you insane amounts of information about it but someone already did so I take it you don’t read.

>> No.29539443

>>29539185
What is your research medium - 4chan ? Try with craig wright, bsv whitepaper ( which actually is the original btc whitepaper ) and also check https://youtu.be/5pHGi0nQMqs

>> No.29539712

>>29538937
>And is Bittrex getting paid to do this?
Yes. You pay them Bitcoin for the privilege of using their data they so kindly provided for you. Entire point of Bitcoin, guy.

>> No.29539848

>>29539443

So, read the whitepaper and listen to people on youtube? That's it? After listening to you people screech on /biz/ and twitter for 3 and a half years about big blockers and how Craig Wright is Satoshi, that's the big reveal? Even stinkers had the onus to gather their breadcrumbs up in a website, anon. And data validation isn't addressed in the BSV whitepaper; their oracles have no way to know whether that data is forged or not.

>>29539712
What is your guarantee, as a consumer of that data, that their data isn't tampered with?For all of the shit you BSVers talk about how big a set of liars the crypto and banking world is, the actual protocol just takes it on faith that the data will be input properly? What prevents say, another LIBOR inner circle incident? Or Flash Boys? Or subprime?

>> No.29540090

Even if BSV is all it claims to be nobody gives a shit, there is a reason Windows and Android are the most popular operating systems and Linux and gayos are less than 1%.
They failed when they lost the bitcoin name.

>> No.29540098

>>29539848
They are paid to Craig post so they most likely won't answer any super technical questions you have.

>> No.29540146

every btc fork is doomed to failure

>> No.29540167

>>29539848
Judging by your statement I am very confident you didn't either read the whitepaper, nor watched the video.

The guest in the video is a former white hat hacker working for a red hat team specializing in social engineering. He also has a number of years experience in cyber security and cryptography. I can't answer all your questions, or give you even a satisfying results since I lack the credibility, but maybe he can.

Now, can you please stop talking/posting pre-determined replies and actually make the effort to perform the research if you really want to know the answer for the questions you have ?

I have given you everything you need, either you want to know, or you don't

>> No.29540229

>>29523638
LOL. no.

Union will eat the ecosystem's lunch in Q3. Join us.

>> No.29540232

>>29540098
If I was paid by Craig Wright, I would most probably have the answer for more technical things, but I don't and I don't claim I do. It's DYOR if you really want to know

>> No.29540245

>>29540098
These aren't even technical questions, I'm just asking how they can have this whole Qposting, "the elite have been lying to us for decades about shit" stance that BSV holders have, and then BSV itself just takes data as it is to incorporate into the blocks, no questions asked? It just doesn't make any sense at all.

>>29540167
Please see above. If there is a section on data validity for BSV's oracles then it should be trivial to point out where it is. Ctrl+F didn't find it in the whitepaper, so I am asking you, honestly, where it is and how it is described.

>> No.29540262

>>29539848
chainlink is a medianizer with a reputation system that they haven't specified. are you clinically insane?

but here you go https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/neural-network-threshold-oracles/

>> No.29540308

>>29540146
Difference is this fork is true to Satoshi’s white paper and original vision where as BTC (Core) has become a strict store of value.
>doomed to failure
>until one succeeds
BSV is arguably the first to gain grassroots support, even BCH had corporate funding pushing it to the forefront. As others can see by the clear shill campaign going on in this thread — there is an incentive to some to make sure it never gains mainstream adoption. Thousands of vapor ware coins / project would disappear seemingly overnight.
>>29540090
People until now haven’t known any better due to information suppression. Once someone is exposed to new information that shows them why it’s the clear superior they’re compelled to learn more. Can’t put the rabbit back in the hat.

>> No.29540370

>>29539848
>thinks secondary sources are better than primary sources

Lmao wow. If you want a third party to publish data for you and you go through them instead of the people you're doing business with, be my guest.

>> No.29540383

>>29540090
Android is actually Linux.... you are fucking retarded aren't you

>> No.29540434

>>29540245
The easiest answer about BSV tards is that they just lie hypocritically, mostly. Craig bashes online gambling and crime yet is payed by a man who was on the FBI list for online gambling. The whole thing is nonsense.

>> No.29540490

>>29540262
This tells me how the data is processed through the oracle, but doesn't tell me how the oracle knows the data is valid, only that the blockchain can be used to validate data ex post facto. If this is your best shot, then yes, BSV oracles just take data quality on faith.

>> No.29540739

>>29540490
Considering you have 2 options

BSV is a scam

BSV is NOT a scam

How do you know which data is valid and based on what ?

>> No.29540886

>>29540739

Well, if you used a medianizer you could filter out results that are too different from the others before the data got to any layer where it's triggering an underlying contract. But we don't see that here, I guess because it's under patent Craig didn't hold - he certainly seems smart enough to understand the issues here.

>> No.29540920

>>29540490
there is no oracle that can tell you if the data is valid. BSV doesn't buy into the idea that code is law, bsv is an imutable public ledger that everything in the world can run on. If you are a data providor and you commit fraud it is recorded as evidence

https://youtu.be/0T8w2JxruMU

>> No.29541060

>>29537821
>If a miner tries to publish a block too large, he can't share that block fast enough to everyone
exactly where I was going with this... if the block size is the bottleneck, then how does it scale to be digital cash?
maybe the internet will be fast enough to send 20GB blocks by the time it scales to that size

>> No.29541093

>>29540886

So your result is based on a general opinion/data bias, which may or may not be correct - and this is the formula for validation you are inclined to ?

Do you know that, if majority of people share the same belief - this do not make them right. It just makes them equally wrong.

Also, yes, Craig would know the answer and you can actually email him and ask him - he is not hiding or anything.

I am not qualified enough to satisfy your requests.

>> No.29541154

>>29540920
>BSV doesn't buy into the idea that code is law, bsv is an imutable public ledger that everything in the world can run on. If you are a data providor and you commit fraud it is recorded as evidence

Isn't that extremely foolish, given how hard a time that the law has given not just Craig, but lots of crypto devs? Crypto offers us the opportunity to build a system where brand-based trust isn't the end-all of commerce, and I have to assume Craig understands the mathematics behind these things enough to know that. Instead, he's opted for this weird half-measure where there's a ledger, but the institutions - which have been shitting on him this whole time - are still the arbiters of all this stuff.

>> No.29541321

>>29541154
no because if I make a rube goldberg machine that kills someone I am still a murderer.
Code is law is brainlet tier propaganda

Bitcoin is built on law, property rights, corporations and contracts are constructs of law they are about liability not determinism
https://youtu.be/5_G0mY9Pqz4

>> No.29541469

>>29541154
you are just strawmaning at this point, if you don't want to believe and invest in BSV - that's okay, it's all up to you

>> No.29541497

>>29541321
>Bitcoin is built on law, property rights, corporations and contracts are constructs of law they are about liability not determinism

Except the constructs that supposedly undergird the market have broken down in increasingly frequent cases. Large institutions can suspend the rules as they see fit, with no liability whatsoever.

>> No.29541539

>>29523638
How do i even buy this on binance?

>> No.29541612

>>29541539
You have to delete system 32 folder.

>> No.29541655

>>29541497
there is no way of proving supplied data is valid. If you think chainlink does this you're off your head

>> No.29541710

>>29541655
Sure, but you can make it harder to forge data. BSV doesn't even try.

>> No.29541781

>>29541710
anyone can build anything they want on bsv that will scale.
chainlink is a medianizer, it's trivial

>> No.29541834

>>29541781
If it's trivial then why doesn't BSV replicate it? It's not under patent, it provides a useful benefit to the data pool. What's up with that?

>> No.29541888

>>29541655
>BUT THEY STAKED COINS ANON
>PEOPLE WILL STOP USING THAT LINK NODE IF THEY COMMIT FRAUD AND THE SCAMMER WILL LOSE MONEY AND DECENTRALIZATION

>WITH SV IF SOMEONE DEFRAUDS YOU THEY GET A COUPLE CENTS A BAD REPUTATION AND NO BUSINESS FROM YOU AGAIN
>ITS JUST NOT DECENTRALIZED ANON, NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE TO HOLD AND STAKE PREMINED TOKENS?

>> No.29541939

>>29541834
How does BSV ( which is the original bitcoin protocol ) replicate something that came after it ?

Care to explain ?

>> No.29541971

>>29534114
>Pic related was in 2011 purchasing $5 BTC off Silk Road market vendors using GreenDot Money Paks.
So that's how people purchased BTC in 2011. Back then my dumbass was searching on google for "buy Bitcoin with credit card".

>> No.29542014

>>29541939
Medianizers predate BSV. So do mixers, but Craig didn't envision using those in his oracle system, either.

>> No.29542089

BSV would be 10x its current value, if Craig stopped talking about Satoshi and instead focused on the tech.
I read about the tech yesterday and its pretty cool what they are doing.
I dont care if Craig is Satoshi or not, but when he sue people over this small detail, it compromises his own project.
Give us the tech and we will take him seriously.
I bought some BSV yesterday, and equalized it to the number of BTC I have. If the price go 3x in the next two weeks, then I'm going to DCA into it.

>> No.29542096

1000 bsv checking in

I lost so much not buying btc

If tomorrow doesn’t moon I may end it all

>> No.29542221

>>29536090
I store mine in Exodus. I run a BTC pruned node, so I cant install BSV node or it might conflict in the registry.

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Wait what if the news tomorrow is that there's going to be a USD token running on the BSV blockchain or something like that? One that's not a scam

>> No.29542283

>>29541888
nice formatting. checked.
what the hell is this bsv shit anyway. wright has proven nothing

>> No.29542468

>>29542014
but as already stated BSV is the original Bitcoin, which is the genesis crypto, which makes your arugment invalid, you are intentionally ignoring facts to make your claims look plausable, can you maybe check all the sources provided in this topic by a number of anons instead of picking a fight you can't win with literally everyone trying to answer your questions ?

>> No.29542676

Scam.

>> No.29542774

>>29542468
You and the other anon answered my question as well as you could. The answer seems to be "Craig didn't think these were important parts of the system." And I don't agree, so BSV won't be as big a part of my portfolio as it would otherwise be.

>> No.29543019

>>29542774
you seems like a smart guy with your oracle concern and you should be aware that we are not blockchain developers or engaged in BSV development, the video I sent you few posts above explains why BSV is supressed ( it doesn't directly answers your oracle question, but it answers why it doesn't have a positive exposure ) the video is 50 minutes long and you replied back 2 minutes after I posted it claiming it's BS - how about watch it ?

>> No.29543129

>>29541060
Hardware has already scaled to cater for all of this.
The miner who bites off more than he can chew gets orphaned. The other miners learn that there's an implied limit to blocksize (not a hardcoded limit from fags like luke jr) that each one decides based on the probability of being orphaned.

Miners are not only incentivised to not go overboard with data, but also to improve their infrastructure so that they can keep up with the rest of the herd (and earn more from fees)

2018-19 was a big year for discussing all of this in detail

>> No.29543254

I believe you guys but BSV is so hard to buy I'm just not gonna do it.

>> No.29543465

A gigameg block just flew over my house

>> No.29543520

>>29543254
https://changelly.com/

>> No.29543529

>>29543254
>me in 2011

>> No.29543578

>>29543254
it's on bittrex

>> No.29543720

>>29543254
https://buybsv.com/
bittrex poloniex etc

it's much easier than 10 years ago

>> No.29544108

Thanks. How does this stack up against nano?

>> No.29544320

>>29523638
CSW = SN going all in

>> No.29545329

>>29539443
>bro check out this youtube channel that is entirely dedicated to shilling BSV with 5 minute scribbles!!
Really, this is the best you retards can offer?
You literally only have your whitepaper to fall back on. No actual research publications, blog posts, or anything exists for BSV. It all revolves about the drama and how pedophile vampires are trying to suppress the REAL BITCOIN.
It all might be true but I don't give a shit, I just want to see real analysis and real work done on this project from credible people, what we have now are just schizo posts on 4chan, twitter, and youtube.

>> No.29545953

>>29545329
utter brainlet. The BSV community is formed mostly from original bitcoiners that were big block advocates. You're just too lazy and stupid to learn the history of bitcoin. You're the very definition of a useful idiot, only reads the headline, never checks the source and parrots the pushed narrative.

>> No.29545988

>>29545329
>blog posts
Craig has his own blog, with so many quality articles I might add. The white paper is there too of you haven't read it.
Coingeek also has info, as well as a free course you can take if you want to study the technicals, on what bitcoin actually is.

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>>29543520
>>29543720
>>29543578
Interesting, what is the preferred wallet to store in?

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bsv = bitcoin scalable version

>> No.29546593

>>29523638
CSW is going to proof himself as satoshi again ? delusion in its true self.. how many times has he signed genesis block ? like 15x ?

>> No.29546825

>>29541834
>>29541888
chainlink can work better on bsv than ethereum

>> No.29546879

>>29541834
>patent
lol

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/ec/ed/00/e98927885825b9/CA3013173A1.pdf
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/35/6f/c7/a253a63926e1b7/WO2018078584A1.pdf

>> No.29547059

>>29528543
Monero and BSV for the win! Two extremes in the sea of normie shite

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>>29543129
thanks for the info, have a billie

>> No.29547696

>>29545329
I used to think pizzagate was bullshit too