/XMR/ - Monero General

[Anonymous No.29502671]

Previous thread >>29447625

Buy now or rope Dip is over Edition

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized p2p privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and borderless, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT (hidden tx amounts) ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a Monero user willingly providing a view key for a specific transaction.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of txs increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in May 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://youtu.be/aC9Uu5BUxII [Embed]

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - https://web.getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Binance
Kraken
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
Local Monero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
https://archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Gui/Cli (recommended)
MyMonero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.29502783]

>>29502671
BTC ratio +5% today!

[Anonymous No.29502903]

Question for this bread: How badly would XMR be hit if we got banned from everywhere?

i.e made illegal in almost all countries and de-listed from every legal exchange

And what steps could we take to prevent it/take the hit?

[Anonymous No.29502974]

>>29502671
>xmr bleeds sats
>crabs when btc pumps, dumps when btc dumps
>piece of shit can't even stay in the top 20
Really activates the almonds

[Anonymous No.29503070]

>>29502974
>Really activates the almonds
>he held monero trough an alt season
>he doesn't know monero is for keeping the profits not actually making them

[Anonymous No.29503195]

>>29502974
Lol like clockwork, this faggot again. Every thread

[Anonymous No.29503211]

>>29502903
>Question for this bread: How badly would XMR be hit if we got banned from everywhere?
It would moon relative to other cryptos and physical asset prices. A deniable asset being banned by governments is proof positive they can't control it.
>And what steps could we take to prevent it/take the hit?
I believe you mean "encourage."

[Anonymous No.29503325]

>>29503195
Look at pic.

[Anonymous No.29503469]

this is the only crypto im holding rn LOL
everything else is gonna crash

[Anonymous No.29503470]

Also
>>29502671
>midriff
>thighs
Absolutely haram

[Anonymous No.29503487]

>>29502903
Monero will not be "banned from everywhere". That's a schizo fantasy or an ignorant misunderstanding of laws surrounding encryption and p2p applications. Not trying to be offensive to you anon, but it is simply not how the world works for every government to unanimously agree to target a p2p protocol, let alone having this actually be feasible (they would have to literally shut down the internet).
Monero won't be "banned from everywhere" just like torrents aren't. Not only is it not enforceable, but there is nothing illegal about Monero. All illegal usecases for something like Monero are also accomplished in dollars. It's far more likely for more exchanges to list Monero that have kyc, as a means for governments to loosely track who has Monero.
So long as you pay your taxes, Monero is completely, 100% legal.

[Anonymous No.29503512]

>>29502903
If by “we”, you mean just XMR, it’ll go down, but, like, this coin is used for illegal shit all the time. We’d wait for atomic swaps and just buy it under the table on Bisq or some shit until then.

If by “we” you mean crypto in general, XMR would be one of the few coins still standing.

[Anonymous No.29503515]

>>29502671
I hurt myself today...

[Anonymous No.29503609]

>>29502671
Threadly reminder that XMR is priced in USD but subject to BTC movements.

[Anonymous No.29503739]

>>29503609
BTC is priced in USD but subject to BTC movements, what’s your point?

[Anonymous No.29503804]

>>29502671
Hello all Monerochads. Today I am asking all XMR enthusiasts to buy 0xMonero. 0xMonero is better than Monero in every way and is not a scam. For every ten thousand dollars invested in 0xMonero, my local slumlord will provide my village with 1 coronavirus vaccine (Indian produced).

Thank you for your time,

Pajeet

[Anonymous No.29503918]

>>29503739
As a reminder to BTC pairing maxis that XMR is a unique asset priced in USD for TA.

[Anonymous No.29503986]

>>29503211
>"encourage."
Yes, that would be a better term for it, and a better solution long term. The faster monero can exist without the need for anything legal or licensed, the better it will be in the long term.

[Anonymous No.29504407]

>>29503470
*absolutely delicious

[Anonymous No.29504526]

>>29503487
Anon, i'm actually perfectly aware of everything you said, but let me rephrase the question: What would happen if government actually made full effort of controlling decentralized anonymous currencies, making use of every single one of their tools to destroy it? Because they don't do that with the tor network, because it is harmless. It has no people on there besides /pol/tard oldfags, all 23 of them, druggie degenerates and pedophiles, all of thoseare completely harmless to the system. Monero isn't. Monero, if ti got popular enough, can actually deliver a serious blow to the most powerful institution in the world: The Fed. So, anon, if monero was to rise, we would, for the 1st time in modern history, see a full on effort of destroying a threat to the system. Last time that happened we had a world war. What do you think will happen now?

[Anonymous No.29504591]

>>29502671
is cute anime girl enough reason to buy xmr

[Anonymous No.29504622]

if monero drops back down to $40 I will buy a hundred of them instantly. but buying at $160 just makes me want to kms. I am really pissed at myself for not buying a year ago. I really hope it continues to go down tonight, it would make my year. if it decreases at a similar rate as last night I will start buying in, but slowly, because I still feel shit about not buying a year ago when I knew I should have :(

[Anonymous No.29504794]

Serisouly. Why are there so many weak hand fagots in Monero?
Just fucking HODL and never sell.
It's so fucking hard?

[Anonymous No.29505065]

>>29504622
If it's gets to $40 dollar again than it's probably not worth buying.

You want to buy an asset in an upstread during a bull market.

[Anonymous No.29505553]

>>29504526
I will repeat again, that you are greatly over exaggerating what governments can do to stop a p2p cryptocurrency. And any attempt at "attacking" Monero would have a Streishand effect, and it would unite bored NEETs and super nerds around the world to rally behind Monero and defend it. Do you know how hype these /xmr/ generals would be if we knew the American government was trying to attack the Monero network. It would be war and all of us autistic faggots would be doing everything to fight back.
Andreas had a really good quote about why governments never attacked Bitcoin. I am paraphrasing, but it was essentially "the last thing governmetns want to do is battle Bitcoin nerds on their home field". This same logic would apply to Monero. Instead of battling it directly (e.g. 51% attack) they will instead plant FUD in the media and also stay silent about it to avoid giving Monero clout (e.g. why Chain analysis had a dark net report that didn't mention Monero a single time last week).
> Because they don't do that with the tor network, because it is harmless
Well, no. They monitor the Tor network, but they can't "take it down" because it is impossible and pointless.
>>29504591
yes.

[Anonymous No.29505950]

>>29505065
If it went to $40 I guarantee they wouldn't be buying if they didn't buy by the time it was $160. Nobody else would be buying either if it got that low again probably, that would most likely only happen if btc crashed to sub 10k and would mean this was the top for the whole market because everything is correlated to bitcoin. Why do people even post stuff like that, you obviously don't want the price to go that low. btc has barely done a 2x and xmr hasn't even broken ATH. This is a bear trap.

[Anonymous No.29506064]

>>29504794
>never sell.
FUCK YOU!! THE MARKET IS DUMPING!!!!! I NEED TO PULL OUT NOW TO SAVE MY MONEY!!!

[Anonymous No.29506191]

>>29506064
Das rite
Buy high, sell low

[Anonymous No.29506327]

>>29504622
>I will buy IF
>I should've bought
>I knew it
You will never buy, and you will never make it.

[Anonymous No.29506477]

>>29506064
>t. zoomer

[Anonymous No.29506564]

>>29505553
>they will instead plant FUD in the media and also stay silent about it to avoid giving Monero clout
That was a part of what i said.
> They monitor the Tor network, but they can't "take it down" because it is impossible and pointless.
When shit goes down they DDOS it to hell, like they did when they cut off assange's internet. They can't take it down permanently but that the kind of sabotage i was referring to.

[Anonymous No.29506651]

>>29505553
Tor exit nodes are trivially visible from the outside by monitoring outbound traffic. XMR can be sneakernetted with paper/hardware wallets. Very different degrees of difficulty.

[Anonymous No.29506676]

>>29506191
>>29506477
I never should have bought this scam coin!

[Anonymous No.29506681]

>>29502671

Nothing like MCM Mochimo coin they are really undervalued now and they are gonna rock in future.

[Anonymous No.29507113]

is 0xMonero a scam?

[Anonymous No.29507187]

>>29507113
What do you think? Just look at the name.

[Anonymous No.29507961]

>>29503070
>>he doesn't know monero is for keeping the profits not actually making them
Not everyone here is an unemployed faggot with unlimited time using government gibs to speculate on shitcoins.
Safe recurring investment from my paycheck goes directly into XMR and then BTC.

[Anonymous No.29507970]

>>29506564
Well then workarounds will be found. Monero fought off attacks on its nodes for like two months recently. You gotta realize that nerds live for this sort of thing lol.
>>29506651
It doesn’t matter. The point I’m making is that you can’t ban Monero. There is no legal precedent.

[Anonymous No.29508053]

>>29503804
kek, that's a good one, pajeet

[Anonymous No.29508152]

>>29506681
I'll bite. What's so good about Mochim--

Just kidding, you are a faggot.

[Anonymous No.29508555]

>>29502974
Monero always gets surpassed by shitcoins during bull markets. In 12 months those shitcoins will be dead and xmr will still be around.

[Anonymous No.29509268]

New MONERO MECH NFT series. MONERO MECH ALPHA (12 of 13 still available). Limited Series in the works.

https://app.rarible.com/token/0xd07dc4262bcdbf85190c01c996b4c06a461d2430:156788:0x554afa42fa24da1139852a676c0803280977b179

[Anonymous No.29509375]

>>29507961
If Monero goes to $1000 I will buy a $500 tier 1 replica Richard Mile from r/reptime

Ode to fluffy

[Anonymous No.29509709]

>everything red
>monero pumping
Is the 'fundamentals dont matter' retard still posting here

[Anonymous No.29509754]

Btc ratio closing in on 0.0044

[Anonymous No.29509799]

>>29502974
>only green coin in your watch list
lel

[Anonymous No.29509932]

>>29509268
>NFT
monero is fungible by design, nobody cares about your "one off" tokens, go shill someplace else

[Anonymous No.29509961]

DOING my part to Shill Monero to KimDotCom.

I need more faggot with Twitter to pile in the conversation to get the numbers up!

https://twitter.com/btcbullbro/status/1364313465825935363

[Anonymous No.29510011]

>>29509709
he's looking at the xmr/usd chart

[Anonymous No.29510057]

>>29502671
Any opinions on feather wallet for xmr? Safe?

[Anonymous No.29510108]

>>29509754
i am fully erect

[Anonymous No.29510149]

>>29502671
I don’t hold any monero, but I love coming to these threads for monero-chan

[Anonymous No.29510214]

>>29510149
fuck you. Buy the XMRBTC bottom now

[Anonymous No.29510223]

>>29510108
Target is 800k if we dont break down past 340k sats

[Anonymous No.29510262]

>>29506676
Wtf man you could have bought btc at its ath and still be in this predicament

[Anonymous No.29510278]

>>29509799
I thought they were joking and that was their point but idk I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.29510396]

>>29507113
No it's 100% legit. In fact you should take out high interest loans to invest in it.

[Anonymous No.29510448]

>>29509754
real time xmr/btc exchange rate?

[Anonymous No.29510605]

>>29510278
>>29509799
Yah I'm rubbing it in fudders faces.

[Anonymous No.29510737]

>>29510057
feather is legit

[Anonymous No.29510751]

>>29510448
Yeah the ratio has performed tremendously so far in this dump. We touched 0.0044 and then shot back down but we are hovering in the 0.00435 area. Monero gaining in a dump is a bullish signal.

[Anonymous No.29510816]

>>29510737
CLI is best though tb h

[Anonymous No.29510956]

>>29510751
Some mad lad put up a 14 btc buywall at 380k last night. He got it all filled.

[Anonymous No.29511001]

>>29510737
It’s safe but because it’s new it can have bugs.

[Anonymous No.29511031]

>>29510956
Tbh if he hadnt done that we would have plummeted down to like 300k, forgot to addthat

[Anonymous No.29511122]

>>29510956
I know a few BTC ogs throwing XMR a bone because XMRBTC ratio is pretty much at All Time Low.

[Anonymous No.29511181]

>>29511031
The action so far today for Monero indicates that a drop like that would have gotten eaten up quickly anyway.

[Anonymous No.29511513]

>>29511001
Yea true and I just use the CLI kind of for that reason, but from what I know their team is trustworthy

[Anonymous No.29511693]

>only just scraped together an 18.7 sui
>still hate myself for spending precious monies and not accumulating for three years

will the pain ever go away?

[Anonymous No.29511742]

Guys why are we pumping? Are they exiting to monero to evade taxes while cashing out?

[Anonymous No.29511797]

>>29511742
perhaps

[Anonymous No.29512068]

>>29511742
Its because the monero market cap is about 10x undervalued

[Anonymous No.29512153]

not even 0.01% of bitcoin and not even talking about gold ratio imagine not being all-in for the next few years, bitcoin is real-estate monero is the real digital gold.

[Anonymous No.29512291]

>>29506327
what does that picture imply?

[Anonymous No.29512462]

>>29511513
Yeah their team is legit and active.
I tried out the feather wallet for wownero. It is pretty cool with some nice features, but I ran into a bug with the balance not showing (the seed they use is 14 words, and for some reason I needed to resync using the 25 word seed the 14 word seed was derived from). Then things worked. So if you are looking for an up and coming wallet and you like the vibe of beta testing then it’s a really comfy option. But yes, the CLI is hard to go back from once you start using it.

[Anonymous No.29512474]

>>29511742
swapping to monero as a means cover gains is the logical choice

[Anonymous No.29512560]

What am I in for if I try to hide all my assets from divorce in Montero? Is this possible? Mortgage everything sell all accounts sell car and put it all in a Monero wallet?

[Anonymous No.29512700]

>>29512291
it implies a simple strategy, dollar cost average and don't look back

[Anonymous No.29512799]

>>29512560
Hi glowie ;)

[Anonymous No.29512823]

>>29512560
just a large movement of cash onramped to an exchange would definitely be fishy
that sort of liquidation during a divorce would definitely come up in legal proceedings
you'd be better off slowly accumulating through localmonero or something to keep it as hidden as possible

[Anonymous No.29513013]

>>29512799
I'm being real, I'm not going through divorce currently but want to plan.

>>29512823
What charges would I be guilty of? What if I did this before the divorce?

[Anonymous No.29513247]

>>29512700
>don't look back
how tf do i do this?
i secured a suicide stack but still hate myself for not buying the covid dip or pre-2017 and even more for trading two uni airdrops for pnk before it mooned
the thought of a free 20k to spend on xmr is making me in fact very BITTER
one could even say seething..

[Anonymous No.29513328]

Californians are going to get $600 dollars of monopoly money to FOMO on crypto reap soon

[Anonymous No.29513344]

>>29513247
2017 was 5 years ago, anon. You can wait another five years to have the same results or better.

[Anonymous No.29513464]

I made a SEPA payment of 1000 euro to Kraken yesterday. Their support have told me they credited my deposit to my account, but it's still not there. I've opened another support ticket two hours ago but this time there is a message saying it might take them up to 3 days because of support ticket volume. What are my options? The only other KYC exchange I'm registered on is Binance and I can't buy Monero there with my Euro balance. Are non-KYC exchanges trustworthy? can you get monero as cheap as on kraken? I've been trying to buy for like 36+ hours. when I woke up this morning it was at 150 euro :( fucking KIKES

[Anonymous No.29513541]

>>29512700
thank you, thats what i do btw :)

[Anonymous No.29513685]

So I’m finally getting around to transfer my BTC out of local bitcoins. Looks like they have changed so that I need to provide name, ID, address and phone number to withdrawal? Do I just bite the bullet and do it so I can get it in my own wallet?
The irony is I bought this originally to be anonymous/ private. My bad for not having it in my own wallet but this is why I’m all for monero now.

[Anonymous No.29513778]

>>29513247
>how tf do i do this?
accept that you can't change the past, NOBODY can catch every oppertunity
I'm some autismo so I made a spreadsheet to track my investments which I update daily, looking back at those graphs puts it all in perspective for me and I sleep very comfy

[Anonymous No.29514001]

Retesting the 0.0044 ceiling

[Anonymous No.29514462]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IprScr_TBGY

[Anonymous No.29514747]

>>29513464
No BTC/Euro pair? Can you buy LTC or BTC on Binance and then buy XMR?

I feel your pain, bro. I've been trying out different kyc exchanges and they all have their pros and cons. Kraken's being their weird deposit options.

[Anonymous No.29514791]

>>29512560
>>29513013
If you're already married, you're fucked, at least legally. Avoid making any rash movements or suspiciously large transactions. If you don't have done it yet, create a new email address only for crypto. Trickle money into xmr at a pace that can be explained by bad spending habbits - gamling, onlyfans, whatever. Avoid patterns (ie. converting x amount every day) and be as random as possible. Withdraw form excachange, then send it to a 2nd wallet in portions, always generate new receive addresses. That way you retain plausable deniability and can pretend you've spend it. The more time you have to spread out actions the better. The hardest part is cashing out, because you suddenly have to explain where all the money came from. Again you have to come up with creative explainations. And lastly: don't be greedy. Secure your share, but it's better to take some loss than drawing extra attention to you and loosing all. (ie court "guesses" that you have X amount and charges you accordingly . even if you have significantly less than X)

This is independed from you local mariage rules, but be sure to read up upon them as well. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.29515149]

Pull up and we flexxin' we be going so high
Pull up and we flexxin' we be going so high
Pull up and we flexxin' we be going so high
I'm so high, I'm so high, h-h-h-high
I'm so high, I'm so high, h-h-h-high

[Anonymous No.29515174]

>>29513013
Even if you stash it and try never find out, you'll still need a cash out strategy.

[Anonymous No.29515492]

>>29515174
selling small amounts every few weeks and living a good life.

cant buy a house that way but

[Anonymous No.29515544]

>>29506064
>>29506191
>>29506676
Lmao you pathetic privacyfags never fail to make me laugh with your “monero general” threads. Face it, most BTC hodlers will be infinitely more successful than any of you sad XMRcucks will ever be. You are on the wrong side of the blockchain, get over it losers

[Anonymous No.29515943]

>>29515544
How’s the weather in Tel Aviv?

[Anonymous No.29516055]

>>29515544
A currency where everyone knows my net worth, who I transact with, and costs 20 dollars every time I want to send money? Sounds pretty based.

[Anonymous No.29516184]

>>29513344
hmm
>>29513778
tbqh i know i'm going to regret not buying and end up priced out otherwise so i guess my self loathing will be mitigated
>>29514462
are you the same person who voiced the ad for payfair?

[Anonymous No.29516271]

>>29511742
I think XMR already had it's correction before BTC began it's own. We dropped 50% from our previous run up.

[Anonymous No.29516460]

>>29512560
You could but only if you are willing to leave the united States and renounce citizenship. Then you can cash out in another country.

[Anonymous No.29516820]

>>29515544

No fungibility, no future, maxipad. Enjoy your transactional headaches.

[Anonymous No.29516986]

>>29515943
Israel probably loves monero. They can fund all the terror groups they want anonymously.

[Anonymous No.29517108]

should i swing xmr or dca?

[Anonymous No.29517259]

>>29517108
lump sum now

[Anonymous No.29517572]

>>29509268
thanks for the free NFT

[Anonymous No.29517736]

Monero go, monero go
Monero go, monero go, go, go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPXd05ivWCg

[Anonymous No.29517849]

>>29503515
What did you do, Anon?

[Anonymous No.29517873]

>>29513685
oh no no no

[Anonymous No.29518301]

>>29517849
it's a song…

[Anonymous No.29518314]

>>29515149
Shield Gang Moneroj on the USB

[Anonymous No.29519448]

>>29518301
Yes I know this but I thought he was quoting the lyrics for a reason

[Anonymous No.29519694]

>>29517259
balls deep now?

[Anonymous No.29519758]

>>29517736
based drainer / xmr chad

[Anonymous No.29519895]

>>29515943
You're responding to a variation of a /pol/ bait pasta.

[Anonymous No.29519974]

>>29516986
This is why it will never get banned.

[Anonymous No.29520196]

When is my money going to clear, I'm missing the dip!!!!!

[Anonymous No.29520258]

Monero is only used by criminals

[Anonymous No.29520390]

>>29509961
For him, Bitcoin = BCH...

[Anonymous No.29520463]

>>29520258
but I am not a criminal, i just want to hold an unknown amount in my own wallet. BTC is not fun to hold. could get sttuck in mempool . big tx fees. all my frens can see howmuch i hold.

the only PoW coin that still matters is monero.

[Anonymous No.29520682]

>>29509268
Cool, gas fees are a high though

[Anonymous No.29520764]

>Sold BTC at peak
>Rebought at dip
>Nailed good exchange rate and all in'd into XMR
>Now have [REDACTED] in my personal XMR wallet
feels good

[Anonymous No.29521280]

>>29520463
>but I am not a criminal, i just want to hold an unknown amount in my own wallet.
Not letting the government see all your assets is illegal and also antisemitic. Get in ze pod and eat ze bugs immediately.

[Anonymous No.29521762]

I've been trying to load the blockchain with monero-gui and no matter what I do monerd fucking deadlocks the desktop for seconds at a time.

i've tried tweaking the command line switches, switching hdd schedulers, no effect, is there any solution?

I haven't tried downloading the blockchain raw and importing yet but I'm about too, this is ridiculous it's literally been churning for 24+ hours. I've got a fast computer, I assume it's the slow drive, but really? why is it fucking the drive so hard?

I can't find solutions anywhere, github, stackoverflow, reddit all suggest command line switches but they only barely make a difference.

wat do?

[Anonymous No.29521764]

>>29521280
>>29521280
eating meat is actually really damaging our climate, unironically
recently ate some very tasty vegan meatballs with good macros, was a pleasant surprise
one day we'll figure it out

[Anonymous No.29521773]

>>29520258

[Anonymous No.29521786]

friendly reminder to mine monero on moneroocean and pass by their discord with other bros

you can use eth and rvn in gpu or any gpu with multi algo miner

[Anonymous No.29521866]

>>29521762
It's not even that it takes forever, that's fine, it's that it thrashes the drive so hard linux fucking locks the GUI, whole system freezes for 5+ seconds, unresponsive. I've even tried libeatmydata to ignore fsync's and that doesn't even work. wtf is monerd doing?

[Anonymous No.29521923]

>>29518314
>>29519758
based. thaiboy goon bring us all wealth

[Anonymous No.29521961]

>>29521764
>eating meat is actually really damaging our climate, unironically
Only at current population levels. Stop shipping food to the third world and that'll get straightened out quick.

[Anonymous No.29522115]

>>29521961
kek
>>29521866
>>29521762
as ex-btc user i knew i would never go back to downloading blockchains, so I just use a lightwallet on my phone

[Anonymous No.29522157]

>>29521764
dont care wont care i will still eat my steak

fuck you, none your business what i eat

[Anonymous No.29522296]

>>29521866
The more free memory you have and the faster your network is, the less it thrashes disk. The repeated large allocations as it grows the chain on disk will fragment the fuck out of your drive if it's even close to full, too.

[Anonymous No.29522365]

>>29521762
>>29521866
>>29522296
so anon needs to use an SSD?

[Anonymous No.29522387]

>>29521764
I can’t even tell if you are memeing or not but this is so far off. First of all regenerative farming of animals can be carbon sequestering and is argued by some to be the solution for desertification. Even conventional animal farming isn’t as bad as they exaggerate with their number tricks. Meanwhile monocrop agriculture is terrible for the environment. Also, to get to the meat of problem. Animal foods are foundational for the human diet. Animals have every nutrient that your body needs in their bio available form, you can’t say the same about plant. Meat based diets are easy mode for reversing type 2 diabetes and many illness that plague western society. What do you think the environmental impact is for the medical and pharmaceutical industry for people that use them because they have a preventable and curable condition (diabetes for example). This is yet another reason why I love monero, when you fuckers try to ban meat I’ll be paying a farmer in monero for fresh grass finished pastured raised meat.

[Anonymous No.29522560]

>>29522365
Either that or have enough free RAM for the VFS to batch writes efficiently. Most I/O bottlenecks on Linux can be resolved with sufficient free RAM. Upgrade whichever is cheaper.

[Anonymous No.29522597]

>>29522365
afraid that was the answer here, and it's encrypted too it's already in theory scattered all over the disk, nothing but random reads.

need to stop being a jew and get a cheap ssd atleast.

[Anonymous No.29522643]

>>29521762
if you're using a spinning drive, that's to be expected.
if you're using an ssd and have normal-ish internet, something's definitely wrong. full chain syncs in a couple of hours for me.

[Anonymous No.29522688]

>>29522560
what gets me though is i should be able to tell linux to just don't deadlock the fucking system. slow it down, i don't care if it takes forever. i've set it to lowest priority with nice, lowest idle io priority with ionice, it's not supposed to be locking the desktop; and even then with libeatmydata it's supposed to ignore fsync calls, nothing works; system unusable while it's syncronizing.

[Anonymous No.29522738]

>>29522597
>and it's encrypted too it's already in theory scattered all over the disk, nothing but random reads.
Yeah don't fucking do that. I'd pick an unencrypted USB drive to sync your chain and then copy it on to your LUKS partition once complete.

[Anonymous No.29522775]

>>29522643
thanks; as long as it's expected behavior and not some catastrophic config failure, drive is relatively new and fast as far as hdd's go. I'll deal until I get an ssd.

[Anonymous No.29522824]

>>29522688
LUKS+LVM are what you need to be yelling at. Your filesystem isn't writing blocks to physical disk.

[Anonymous No.29523042]

>>29522738
fwiw encryption has caused absolutely no i/o issues or slowdown for me, monerod syncs fast with it

[Anonymous No.29523159]

>>29522560
its confortable to see that threads about monero always attract big brains. while most threads on biz are moonboy retards. im in the progress of converting all my btc to xmr. i see no point in holding BTC. cant use it properly, not as secure, not private, not fungible. mostly speculation. no adaptive blocks, no fair mining algoritm....

do you think it can go to 0.002 btc? one of the main reasons though is im looking for a safe alternative to BTC and the only I can think of with long term viability and safety is Monero. I can hold it on my own address safely for years without getting stuck or having to pay high fees. i can use it like i want to use Bitcoin. better store of value too. lets go

[Anonymous No.29523208]

>>29522824
that's what i thought too. the frustration is more of WHY it's happening. if i were to download the blockchain and then copy the damn thing on the luks drive, i would be getting sequential read/write speeds not this random bs it seems to be doing. just because it's luks doesn't necessarily mean it's randomizing where all the data is going, not super deep on the encryption details on that, but i know if I copy something or straight dd something you still get sequential read/write even though xts is supposed to be scattering it. maybe it has something to do with the nonstop fsyncs.

[Anonymous No.29523293]

>>29523159
>do you think it can go to 0.002 btc?
it's absolutely possible, but probably won't happen for at least a couple of years

[Anonymous No.29523381]

>>29523293
>>29523159

i hope you mean 0.02 kek

[Anonymous No.29523453]

>>29523293
>>29523381
lol im retarded and read it as .02

[Anonymous No.29523512]

How do you turn XMR into stable coin so you can ride pumps and buy dips without the IRS finding out?

[Anonymous No.29523528]

For the fudders ITT, Monero has managed to 2x even with all the capital in altcoins being drained to fuel BTC. As soon as king shitcoin stops abusing the alts market we will break ATH with ease. I'm predicting $700 XMR EOY

[Anonymous No.29523601]

>>29523528
yeah it help up well. its very obvious there isnt a lott of speculative overvaluuation on XMR. thats why im buying.

[Anonymous No.29523774]

it's nice to see how fast the ratio recovered today

[Anonymous No.29523851]

Looks like the demoralization niggers all killed themselves. Based.

[Anonymous No.29524253]

>>29523601
Me too. I’m not very knowledgeable on crypto but after a decent amount of research, I’ve concluded that only a handful of coins are actually useful for anything, Monero being chief amongst them. I bought my first crypto ever today, LTC, on the recommendation of someone in this general yesterday. Once my exchange lets me move it off I’ll convert it to XMR and keep buying and stacking for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous No.29524275]

>>29523512
Sling it in and out of USDC I guess

[Anonymous No.29524316]

>>29523159
>i see no point in holding BTC. cant use it properly, not as secure, not private, not fungible. mostly speculation. no adaptive blocks, no fair mining algoritm....
Yeah. It's trash as a currency with the fees and volatility so high. More like stocks.

>do you think it can go to 0.002 btc? one of the main reasons though is im looking for a safe alternative to BTC and the only I can think of with long term viability and safety is Monero. I can hold it on my own address safely for years without getting stuck or having to pay high fees. i can use it like i want to use Bitcoin. better store of value too. lets go
Agreed. I think if BTC is being pumped by Tether and XMR isn't that'd be a really interesting decoupling to watch.

[Anonymous No.29524322]

>>29510149
I don’t own any monero too but i love cuming here for monero chan

[Anonymous No.29524381]

>>29523208
>maybe it has something to do with the nonstop fsyncs.
Also it repeatedly reallocates the db file on disk as it grows which probably forces a ton of cleanup/defragmentation.

[Anonymous No.29525411]

>>29524253
Once my BTC is all converted I can finally hold all my assets off exchange. With BTC i just cant cause the blocks are smoll and I don't want to risk getting stuck or having to pay big fees. Monero is fucking awesome. I'm slowly converting all my Butts into Monero and by next month i'll just exit the market. I don't even care about selling the bitcoin top. I 'll come back when the year ends and enjoy my summer. when i come back my moneros will be comfely safely and gainely

[LebAnon No.29525556]

>>29519694
DCA to be safe
if you can afford a lump sum fuck it but long term DCA is the way

[Anonymous No.29525994]

>>29524253
Litecoin is a scam. The founder is a scumbag. See picture and note the date.
Dump everything for XMR.

[Anonymous No.29526030]

Does anyone actually use XMR as a speculative asset? I think it's the ultimate bank, and is my point of cashing out when I'm done playing with alts.
What a beautiful world it will be when nobody knows how much wealth you have, and you can exist as large, or as small as you want.
Sorry if I sound like a glowie, I just finally 'got' how valuable XMR is as a newbie to the crypto space, especially with all the crackdown in the news, and Yellen existing.
wgmi, monerochads

[Anonymous No.29526162]

Friendly reminder that Monero is poised to become the reserve cryptocurrency of the global shadow economy and is currently replacing BTC on the darknet while also making inroads into the cyber-crime and money laundering sectors.

>Bitcoin Will Never Be Truly Private Says Andreas Antonopoulos
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-will-never-be-truly-private-says-andreas-antonopoulos

>Bitcoin is too hot for criminals. They're using Monero instead
https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/03/technology/bitcoin-popularity-criminals-monero/index.html

>Crooks opt for Monero as crypto of choice to launder ill-gotten gains
https://www.theregister.com/2018/03/16/cyber_crime_economics/

>Darknet Giant White House Market Drops Bitcoin, Supports Monero Payments Only
https://news.bitcoin.com/darknet-giant-white-house-market-drops-bitcoin-supports-monero-payments-only/

>Monero replaces Bitcoin for Sodinokibi Ransomware operators
https://www.cybersecurity-insiders.com/monero-replaces-bitcoin-for-sodinokibi-ransomware-operators/

>$7.5M in Monero Demanded in Alleged Cyber Attack on Argentinian Telecom Giant
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/7-5m-in-monero-demanded-in-alleged-cyber-attack-on-argentinian-telecom-giant/

>Latin American crime cartels turn to cryptocurrencies for money laundering
https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico-bitcoin-insight-idUSKBN28I1KD

>Criminals laundered $2.8 billion in 2019 using crypto exchanges, finds a new analysis
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/16/130843/cryptocurrency-money-laundering-exchanges/

>Why untraceable cryptocurrencies are here to stay
https://www.cbs.dk/en/the-press/news/why-untraceable-cryptocurrencies-are-here-to-stay

Considering that the global shadow economy is valued in the TRILLIONS of dollars, even if just a portion of that ends up in Monero's market cap that is still HUNDREDS of billions of dollars. 5 figure XMR is inevitable.

[Anonymous No.29526235]

>>29525994
Unironically the reason I bought is because he already dumped. Both are good coins for different reasons

[Anonymous No.29526439]

>>29525994
XMR is the only coin I’m stacking. I only bought LTC because my exchange doesn’t trade XMR and someone told me LTC has lower fees than BTC. I just bought LTC with the intention to move it off exchange ASAP and exchange in cakewallet for XMR. Is there an easier way to get XMR besides Kraken or local Monero? I want nothing to do with Kraken or meeting up with a self described anarchist locally.

[LebAnon No.29526458]

>>29525994
true
the only reason I'd use LTC is for small fees to withdraw and convert to sweet unknown amounts of XMR

[Anonymous No.29527741]

bump

[Anonymous No.29527803]

We're doing so good bros, the whole market is crashing and we're pumping, extremely bullish.

[Anonymous No.29528683]

bumping monero thread

[Anonymous No.29529063]

>>29528683
thanks monegro

[Anonymous No.29529409]

Let's say I want to buy a hardware wallet. What are the options I have to acquire a Ledger or Trezor without ever having to give my name/address? I have seen that there are some places that sell Ledger physically, but such places also ask for your name and address. Is paying cash and giving false information the only option? Would you buy a Ledger from an "authorized" retailer? I remember an anon saying that he knew of cases of Ledger retailers or individual sellers reselling wallets after they opened and copied the seed.
Is it easier on my case to simply use an old ThinkPad laptop without the WiFi card as a "hardware wallet"? Can easily sign offline transactions through the GUI and broadcast them on my regular laptop. Wouldn't that work?

[Anonymous No.29529628]

BCH, Dash and precious metals tard here. Just coming to say hello and see what's going on with Monero.

[Anonymous No.29529770]

>>29529409
Look into making a usb drive wallet. Anons were talking in the general how to do it a few days ago and I think I saw a /g/ thread about it.

[Anonymous No.29529773]

>>29529628
>Dash
That's gonna be an uppercase YIKES from me, anon.
Could Dash Be a Scam? | A Brief History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBxbiH_Mg44

[Anonymous No.29529873]

>>29529773
I honestly didn't research it that well and just put about $400 into it. Literally bought because the supply is low. Passed up Monero because god damn Coinbase says the supply is in the billions.

[Anonymous No.29529955]

>>29526439
What's wrong with Kraken?

Binance has XMR too.

[Anonymous No.29529996]

>>29529873
Lol wat. U must be thinking of a different coin. There’s less monero in circulation than btc

[Anonymous No.29530014]

>>29529873
Wut

[Anonymous No.29530147]

>>29529770
What do you mean? Storing the wallet software and keys in it? I'd prefer an isolated device that can sign the transactions offline. Unless you mean running a Linux From Scratch on a USB stick? I wonder if you can encrypt the partition with LUKS on a USB. I mean, you should be able to, right? That's actually not a crazy idea...

[Anonymous No.29530168]

>>29529996
No when I looked at it on Coinbase, it literally said the circulating supply was in the billions. Kinda fucked up. I'm gonna get me some monero next this weekend though

[Anonymous No.29530289]

>>29502671
0xMonero 0xMR

[Anonymous No.29530355]

>>29529628
Monero makes the government and banks seethe the tech is that good.
As for market cap, we all think it's undervalued. It's not inflationary supply if that's your concern. Look into the tail emission and why it's a good idea.
Monero has survived a number of attacks and isn't a coin that is profitable for huge chink mining farms. It's profitable for individuals to run mining in the background so the network will stay decentralized.

[Anonymous No.29530400]

>>29530168
hi anon from bsv thread, don't forget to shitpost on monero threads after you do.

[Anonymous No.29530440]

>>29530147
Yes, I believe that's the gist of it.

[Anonymous No.29530479]

Give him your power!

[Anonymous No.29530575]

>>29530400
This pic always makes me solid

[Anonymous No.29530599]

What is the fastest way to buy monero with fiat,
I used to use localbitcoins, then send to kraken and exchange. But they no longer serve my state.

Kraken requires a wire transfer and that can take $24 hours.

I checked out coinbase and can buy instantly with my debit card, but from what im reading, it can take days for me to get my coin and even more days to be able to withdraw it? wtf? andbody using coinbase that can confirm or deny this?

[Anonymous No.29530605]

>>29530355
>It's not inflationary supply if that's your concern
Exactly. I thought it had a massive supply so opted for god damn dash instead. I should have done more homework but I was just looking for something to buy that was low supply and low priced.

[Anonymous No.29530683]

>>29530400
Thanks, fren. God damn bsv people are crazy.

[Anonymous No.29530695]

Is this the dead cat bounce part of the bullrun?

[Anonymous No.29530778]

>>29530683
well xmr people are paranoid so i guess it's one cult for another lol

[Anonymous No.29530894]

>>29529773
The best part about this guy is that he sounds like Matthew Mcconaughey. lol

[Anonymous No.29530991]

>>29530778
Yeah that's probably true for most cryptos but the bsv and btc people are some of the most retarded I've ever seen. Literally contradict themselves constantly

[Anonymous No.29531008]

>>29530599
As far as I know there isn't a way to get it instantly right now.

I buy something cheap to move like Stellar on Coinbase, wait about 3 days for it to allow me to move it, and withdraw to Kucoin to exchange for XMR.

Apparently Kraken is going to allow ACH transfers soon to the US, when that's available that'll be the easiest way.

[Anonymous No.29531098]

>>29530599
Yah coinbase won't let you withdraw for several days. Binance.us won't let you withdraw for 10 days.

[Anonymous No.29531102]

>>29507970
It's already banned in countries like mine

[Anonymous No.29531126]

What's a good exchange to use for Monero?

[Anonymous No.29531234]

>>29531126
I prefer Kucoin because there's no KYC under 2 BTC and I like their interface better than Tradeogre.

[Anonymous No.29531238]

>>29531008
>Apparently Kraken is going to allow ACH transfers soon to the US, when that's available that'll be the easiest way.
Oh thank fuck. Wire transfers are the big gay.

[Anonymous No.29531363]

Anyone use bitfinex?
Never see it mentioned here.

[Anonymous No.29531422]

>>29531363
We hate it because it's the money laundering front for tether.

[Anonymous No.29531467]

>>29531008
>>29531098
>>29531238


Kraken FTW I guess. I'd use coinbase still, but they don't let you buy XMR. Bunch of bitches

[Anonymous No.29531672]

>>29521762
just run monerod without the gui and sync that way. when its done, quit monerod and run the gui like normal.

[Anonymous No.29531741]

>>29531467
Coinbase has higher fees too

[Anonymous No.29532077]

I'm very curious what sort of pressure is being put on Coinbase and Binance US that prevents them from listing Monero.

Coinbase CEO was quoted saying that he "personally would like to list it" but that behind the scenes there were conversations with regulators that convinced him not to.

I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when that conversation happened.

[Anonymous No.29532166]

>>29532077
Unironically bullish. You cannot stop monerochan, dont even try

[Anonymous No.29532220]

>>29531363
Used to be good exchange. High volume, old accounts had unlimited withdraws with no kyc (new accounts needed kyc for certain btc amount), leverage, lending.
Then they got too regulated. Volume left. Kyc for all accounts, even old ones, cant even look at your balance on accounts without kyc. Some shitcoins still left on my account but not worth giving them my details.

[Anonymous No.29532294]

>>29529955
Kraken has a convoluted wire transfer process that I just have fucked up. I can accept fault there but when I reached out to their customer service it was horrible. There is no phone number and it has to be done through emails which are. Lesley being routed to a shared service center in Manila or somewhere like that. They take 2-3 days to answer each email so resolving a simple issue can take over a week. Coinbase for all its faults of not listing XMR at least got me up and running very quickly and had an actual customer service phone number. For small money I don’t care that much but I’d never trust large sums on kraken when I can’t pick up a phone and talk to someone when I have a problem.

[Anonymous No.29532320]

>>29532077
Coinbase: Boy that Monero seems to have potential

Regulators: Shut the fuck up and fud the hell out of it

[Anonymous No.29532736]

>>29532077
It's weird because Kraken has had no issues listing and even promoting it and they're based out of san francisco.

[Anonymous No.29532836]

>>29516820
>No fungibility
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT, does this mean if I received 0.000000010 bitcoin from one of these addresses and send it to 10 biggest BTC wallets they would all get blacklisted?? WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

[Anonymous No.29532868]

>>29532736
So does that mean the folks at Kraken just told regulators to go suck a dick? Presumably the same pressure would have been put on them.

[Anonymous No.29532961]

>>29532836
Yes.

[Anonymous No.29533021]

I'll just leave this here.

[Anonymous No.29533049]

>>29503804
kek

[Anonymous No.29533178]

>>29533021
pic related
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis in a review article from February 2018
https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/review/2018/02/13/the-case-for-central-bank-electronic-money-and-the-non-case-for-central-bank-cryptocurrencies

[Anonymous No.29533247]

>>29532961
so when will government poison the entire bitcoin on purpose?

[Anonymous No.29533311]

god i wish monero-chan was my gf

[Anonymous No.29533361]

>>29532868
well for all we know coinbase could just be assuming that there MIGHT be regulatory pressure put on them and based on that alone be too scared to list it. I find this to be most probable, they've always been pussies completely petrified of the feds even looking in their direction, constantly looking for ways to suck up to them.

Binance.us is just a great big mess overall, don't really know what's going on there, they might be bullying them because they're chinks.

[Anonymous No.29533373]

>>29533247
Governments won't destroy BTC, they love how easy it is to trace. If anything they'll prop up BTC to try and keep Monero out of the light.

[Anonymous No.29533452]

>>29530599
Use Coinbase pro, link your bank account with them. After that is complete then you can install move fiat into Coinbase pro, buy any coin and then send it out. So you buy LTC for example and send it to exodus where you then exchange for XMR. Can also use another exchange like Kucoin which doesn’t have KYC.

[Anonymous No.29533472]

>>29533247
>>29533373
no, but we might

[Anonymous No.29533507]

>>29512291
>i like the coin because the number go up

[Anonymous No.29533592]

>>29505553
>any attempt at "attacking" Monero would have a Streishand effect
Sorry, the Streisand effect only applies to Jewish things they're secretly boosting (hence, (((Streisand))) effect). Not a single normie will be aware of the fight against Monero, and the ones that somehow encounter it will see a fight against "privacy coins". I don't want to fud xmr, just make sure you understand the media an organized propaganda machine that doesn't just let random bits of reality or truth slip onto the air.

[Anonymous No.29534090]

>>29533592
I thought that in theory a monero ban would be impossible because criminals would continue to use monero nonetheless. In a universe with bitcoin and CBDCs they would have absolutely no digital alternative to transact freely, needing to use unreliable and expensive intermediaries. Criminals are becoming more and more interested and adept at using technology. The dark world of crime and gray areas is filled with boomers who have the old-fashioned thinking of dealing with dollars. The new crop is much more technologically up-to-date and this would lead to the use of digital currencies like monero without a doubt, even more so considering all the potential trades that can be safely transacted without anyone watching the transaction. Yeah, peace of mind. Because monero will always have a use, its existence will stop being a small percentage of the cartel and will gain more voice with freedom fighters and libertarians, and in the end it won't be surprising at all if a large part of the population starts to understand the benefits of a private currency like monero because, after all, it has history and a clear use case that will never ever go away.

[Anonymous No.29534105]

>>29533592
>Not a single normie will be aware of the fight against Monero
if every normie had one monero everyone would be a stakeholder against the government

[Anonymous No.29534252]

>>29502671
jw guys, im a XMR maxi but i kinda wish i was gambling on atleast one other coin. what would you picck? like im more comfy holding xmr than anything else, even btc.

[Anonymous No.29534314]

>>29521762
get an external ssd for like 80 bucks. problem solve.

[Anonymous No.29534375]

>>29534090
It would be impossible. It’s like the government trying to ban torrents. I.e. it will not happen.

[Anonymous No.29534391]

>>29534252
maybe Hedera or Handshake

[Anonymous No.29534485]

>>29534252
wait for tari mainnet

[Anonymous No.29534597]

>>29534090
>>29534105
I'm just saying we're not getting a Streisand Effect.

[Anonymous No.29534850]

>>29530599
uphold, then hotbit

[Anonymous No.29534875]

>>29532077
It's a funny situation. On the one hand, Coinbase has absolutely no problem listing blatant scams, and on the other you have Brian Armstrong talking about how important privacy is, and going so far as to say a privacy coin will become mainstream in the upcoming decade (https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-says-20s-will-see-an-anoncoin-go-mainstream).). Then, you have the situation of Zcash being listed, who is really the only "competition" for Monero. There are rumblings that Zcash paid a hefty amount to get listed, and I could see this being the reality. But I digress..
I've long considered their disapproval of Monero as a signal of their understanding of Monero's power, and the confusion of handling KYC with shielded ledgers. It's clear that each exchange has to provide the government with documentation showing who is buying what crypto currency, and so a privacy coin that is being adopted could be a headache for them. But then you look at Kraken who, not only is also an American company, but who is also the first crypto bank in America. I figure that Kraken's stringent KYC is why they have no problems, and seeing as how Kraken frequently donates and supports the Monero community, it really is a headscratcher why Coinbase wouldn't also want to join in and make profits from fees.
It could be argued that the reason is more that Coinbase is just ignorant about privacy rights, and they don't feel like opening a can of worms by looking into this situation in more detail.
But personally, I think Coinbase is stacking, and taking their time at it. None of Armstrong's actions over the past few years make any sense, especially with how Armstrong leaked information about the proposed KYC legislation. Why would he advocate for privacy while also not listing for Monero? Why would leak that information? Why would he talk about the importance of privacy coins? None of it makes any sense.

[Anonymous No.29535862]

>>29534252
My gambles are IOTA and Pre (Presearch). I wouldn't shill those, though.

[[e-mail] No.29536308]

>>29502671
Monero is scam. Buy 0xMonero instead.

[Anonymous No.29536318]

>>29534252
Litecoin

*crack* sip ahhh

[Anonymous No.29536372]

>>29536308
>do the needful

[Anonymous No.29536385]

>>29533361
What is actually happening is that there are lower requirements for listing for surveillance coins (an can actually be outsourced to tracing companies) and they do not want to put in the extra costs and effort to list it.

If XMR rises high enough in price they will list because then it is worth it for the trading volume.

AML and KYC are a nuisance.

[Anonymous No.29536388]

>>29536308
thanks Rajeet!

[Anonymous No.29536751]

>>29536308
Good to see you're still bouncing up and down on a cock Rajneesh

[Anonymous No.29536813]

>>29533592
I think you are getting caught up in semantics. The federal government making attempts to censor a network that provides financial privacy would give Monero a significant amount of clout. Going full scale assault on Monero by banning it and linking it to terrorism/crime would just end up giving normies all the more reason to look into Monero. The more people who look up Monero means the more people who will become invested. It's how Bitcoin became popular, and it is how Monero will become popular. It's far too much of a risk for them to take that fight, so instead they do the only thing they can do, and that is ignoring the situation entirely so they can study/hoard Monero.
Have you every watched professional wrestling? Monero is a small time name who is gaining respect and popularity on the indie circuit. And the American government? Well they are Hulk Hogan, and let me tell you something brother, Hulk Hogan doesn't job to a small time kid like Monero. But in this retarded metaphor, the matches aren't fixed, and the American Government knows that if they actually got into the ring with Monero, then there is a very good chance that Monero would go over. They can't assume that risk, because they last thing they want is for Monero to gain clout.
>>29536308
>that email
kek

[Anonymous No.29537000]

Daily reminder that XMR is your digital hedge against government tyranny.

[Anonymous No.29537265]

>>29536813
>so instead they do the only thing they can do, and that is ignoring the situation entirely so they can study/hoard Monero.
I wouldn't necessarily assume they're ignoring the situation. In addition to suppressing the price via numerous methods while buying large amounts of monero in order to have control and leverage over it should they need it, I'm sure they're actively searching for ways to attack the network, whether that be a software exploit, 51% attack, or just disrupting connectivity.

[Anonymous No.29537638]

needs more monero-chan

[Anonymous No.29537830]

>>29537265
Yes I should clarify that they can also act covertly. But contextually, I was responding to that anon initially about an outright ban, which I argued was definitely not happening.

[Anonymous No.29538217]

>>29523512
Atomic swaps to actual stablecoins.

[Anonymous No.29538226]

>>29522387
ima need a source for every claim made in this post

[Anonymous No.29538924]

>>29534850
Checked out uphold. Looks legit. Is there any wait on withdrawing btc to another exchange/wallet?

And is the purchase instant?

[Anonymous No.29539745]

Reminder to be a cool dude and help the chain by mining

[Anonymous No.29540896]

>>29539745
I solo mine on old hardware just for the thrill

[Anonymous No.29541749]

>>29538226
Ted talk Alan savory for reverse desertification. Jason fung nephrologist on reversing diabetes on low carb diet. Then listen to any of the carnivore people about the benefits of animal based. Paul Saladino was on joe Rogan and also the meat eater podcast.
Also justmeat.co has lots of links to sources of shit.

[Anonymous No.29542144]

whats stopping XMR from having $30+ transaction fees? And 30+ min transaction times?

[Anonymous No.29542355]

>>29538226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI

https://www.sacredcow.info/

[Anonymous No.29542364]

>>29542144
Block size

[Anonymous No.29542394]

>>29542144
Monero is a different code base.
Monero can't have high transaction fees because there is no fee market to include transactions in blocks, like with Bitcoin. If there are more transactions, then the blocks are larger. There is no cap to the block size.
Because of this, there are blocks every two minutes, so there won't be a delay in your transaction being included by the network.

[Anonymous No.29542440]

>>29542144
Adjustable block sizes. As more transactions enter the mempool, block sizes get larger. So you never have bitcoin's situation where transactions have to fight for block space by paying higher and higher fees.

[Anonymous No.29543429]

Can someone explain how a desktop wallet like Exodus works?

[Anonymous No.29543446]

>>29515149
>>29518314
>>29521923
Based drained monerobros

[Anonymous No.29543748]

>>29540896
does mining on old hardware make electricity price go up as bad?
>>29543446
LOVE

[Anonymous No.29543897]

>>29543429
what part do you need explained?

[Anonymous No.29543958]

Is there wrapped monero? I would like to stay private, but also make money at the same time. Getting monero to bridge to defi is crucial

[Anonymous No.29543999]

>>29543429
Exodus is essentially what people refer to as a 'light wallet'. They run the nodes for blockchains on their servers, and then you connect to those servers. Sort of similar to using a remote node with monero wallet, for instance. Generally, you'll achieve much better security through using your own node with the official monero wallet than you will with using something like Exodus, as while they claim that you hold your private keys, there's really no solid way to verify that (closed source), and there are more avenues through which your wallet could be hacked with Exodus than with the miners wallet and your own node. That being said, Exodus seems fairly trustworthy and using it for small amounts is perfectly fine, but I wouldn't recommend keeping your life's savings in there.

[Anonymous No.29544039]

>>29543958
>wrapped monero
>it's just an erc-20 shittoken with none of the privacy features of monero

[Anonymous No.29544095]

>>29543999
>miners wallet
*monero wallet, don't even know how i typed that

[Anonymous No.29544192]

>>29544039
Well yeah the wrapped version wouldn’t have privacy portions but once I’m done trading I take my wrapped monero and the protocal releases equal amount of real monero and then the privacy comes back on. I would maintain my privacy, because you wouldn’t be able to track where the monero comes from or where it’s sent to even if in those brief moments during defi it is not private

[Anonymous No.29544237]

>>29543999
Okay thanks

[Anonymous No.29544521]

>>29544192
i mean apparently it exists as of january
https://blog.btse.com/introducing-wrapped-monero/
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/wrapped-monero/

[Anonymous No.29544580]

>>29544192
>>29544521
although here's something to seriously consider: if XMR were to be made illegal in the jurisdiction of the company backing the wrapped XMR, what happens to your monero?

[Anonymous No.29544711]

>>29544521
>>29544580
here's a homo breaking down some of the issues:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JEhrenhofer/status/1346848549393358848

[Anonymous No.29544842]

>>29544711
Great thread

[Anonymous No.29545021]

has anyone used localmonero? I'm scared to meet up with someone in person. I have about 5k in cash I want to get rid of.

[Anonymous No.29545112]

>>29545021
you're gonna get turned into someone's pet anon

[Anonymous No.29545355]

>>29533361
Coinbase is the preferred payment processor for 4chan passes, which I believe explains why the feds leaned on them in particular.
>4chan is one big FBI honeypot
>anyone who wants the Shitpost Extra Hard DLC gets routed throuch Coinbase
>Passes bypass rangebans
>including Tor
The absolute last thing the feds monitoring 4chan want is for people using anonymous shitcoins and burner emails to buy shitpost-from-Tor hall passes.

[Anonymous No.29545636]

>>29545355
you can already just anonymously swap your xmr to btc and then buy a pass. the feds don't really care, it's still easy to identify you though js and google captcha regardless of what ip you connect through

[Anonymous No.29545661]

>>29545636
Pass users don't touch Captcha at all, and API clients (mobile apps, etc.) don't load JS.

[Anonymous No.29545723]

>>29545021
Meet up in a public area, be confident, and make sure you dont get raped

[Anonymous No.29545725]

>>29545112
what why

[Anonymous No.29545766]

>>29545636
uhhh, if you use a vpn then how would they know?

[Anonymous No.29545794]

>>29520390
RIP bcashers. thinking increasing the blocksize is an innovative tech.

[Anonymous No.29546180]

>>29545021
i used local bitcoin and it was easy. wish there was someone local i could buy with cash. just buy a smaller amount your first time if you are scared.

[Anonymous No.29546350]

Look I'm just gonna cut to the chase, I'm in a real bad way, I forgot my wallet in L.A and I'm needing something to stop the pain, any help is appreciated.

Selfie in my post.
84M1pc7hUUA7GgFmjvZbp6FKLcRMna5DWjD66rZRfPiZL6AiLyodHLTVW459XYR5AVTJVPxi2YsRrZ5PrWXun7FRHWmNreM

[Anonymous No.29546420]

>>29546350
kys

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[Anonymous No.29547541]

>>29546350
even though this is a meme or something, has begging like this ever acutally worked ever?

[Anonymous No.29547926]

>>29530147
Why would you need to use LUKS if it's just going to function as external storage? I guess it makes no real difference, but in my head, LUKS is for fde, and Veracrypt / gpg are for sensitive files (like addresses and keys).

[Anonymous No.29547949]

>>29546350
don't think this really works sorry bro

[Anonymous No.29548018]

>>29532294
I actually got a clear and concise answer from Kraken regarding a similar oopsie, and they replied pretty quickly if I'm remembering right.

[Anonymous No.29548227]

>>29532294
good thing you weren't sending crypto. you don't get another chance with that.

[Anonymous No.29548304]

>>29539745
Got an old rack server I'm throwing at it.

[Anonymous No.29548375]

>>29547541
>>29547949
like 3 days ago, some xmr chad gave away an unknown amount of monero to at least two poorfags. it should be in the archives

[Anonymous No.29548398]

>>29502671
>darknet no longer supports BTC transactions
feels good man

[Anonymous No.29548470]

>>29502671
I just bought my first monero bros

[Anonymous No.29548513]

>>29509268
you should make a gif of monerochan. and next time post your gif, not just the damn link

[Anonymous No.29548552]

>>29548470
i think you mean to say you may or may not have bought an unspecified amount

[Anonymous No.29548565]

>>29548398
Currently the biggest DNM (whitehouse) supports only monero. Other DNM's support BTC and XMR, but i'm sure that they will get rid of BTC transactions due to the lack of privacy that it provides. Bullish for XMR.

[Anonymous No.29548572]

>>29546350
Lol was pretty funny though I'll admit.

[Anonymous No.29548636]

>>29548552
I may or may not have bought or sold an unspecified amount of monero

[Anonymous No.29548828]

>>29522387
Well, it's true that producing meat has a bad caloric efficiency, ie. the corn that is used to feed a cow over it's lifetime may have 8-10x the calories of the meat of the cow. Pork is a little more efficient, chicken is even better.
However, as you pointed out, intense monocrop agriculture has it's flaws too. Add to that the possibility of nutrient deficiency or the enviromental cost to generate/extract/concentrate these nutrients from plant based sources in a lab and it strict vegitarien diest may cause more damage than good.

>>29542355
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI
Good recommendation, I'd suggest you also watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZopUOb_7wA
The whole channel is worth gold, so if you care about sustainability I'd highly recommend that.

[Anonymous No.29549135]

>>29546350
>id is literally JOOD
>begs for money

[Anonymous No.29549336]

tell me frens
is it too late to fomo into monero now ?
seeing that this coin is being used to buy stuff on the Darknet and now my Viagra seller also accepts this coin
should i DCA into that coin every month from now on ?
need some advice

[Anonymous No.29549349]

I'm spending it all on drugs anyway but Jesus christ dealing with crypto conversion in Washington state is AIDS

[Anonymous No.29549425]

>>29549336
XMR is one of the few coins in crypto with fundamental value (that isn't simply speculative). It's here today and it will be here tomorrow and 10 years from now. It's never too late to grab a bag.

[Anonymous No.29549457]

>>29549336
absolutely not too late
monero is severely undervalued and its current position is a lot like BTC was 7 years ago

[Anonymous No.29549814]

>>29548828
>Well, it's true that producing meat has a bad caloric efficiency, ie. the corn that is used to feed a cow over it's lifetime may have 8-10x the calories of the meat of the cow.
It seems like most people advocating responsible cattle production advocate grazing the cattle on historic grasslands to emulate previous bovine populations to restore the ecosystem, so the caloric efficiency argument seems to miss the mark. For example, there used to be at least 40-60 million bison in North America that lived in harmony with the environment. Wouldn't it be irresponsible to not then, at the least, emulate that kind of ecological presence? Either by rapidly reintroducing bison to get their numbers back into the tens of millions and allowing them to graze the same way they did prior to industrialization, or by using cattle and other grazers and big brain management to emulate the effect they had. For the record, quick googling says there's only 100 million heads of cattle in the US currently. So there's no reason we can't have close to, or at least a reasonable level of, the same beef production while also bringing the continent closer to how it was prior to human impact. Same thing in Africa. Envirotards screech we need to muh 6 gorillion cows while ignoring natural populations where in the hundreds of millions if not billions.

[Anonymous No.29549907]

>>29505950
You're fucking retarded if you think there aren't seasoned vets here willing to buy XMR at $30.

[Anonymous No.29549988]

>>29549814
Right. And lets go back even longer. Look at the fucking dinosaurs roflmao. How much ass gas would a herd of those enormous apartment block-sized long-necked bitches produce? An entire globe crawling with such creatures?

The anti-cow vegan retards are actually braindead.

[Anonymous No.29550431]

>>29502671
lets go boys.

[Anonymous No.29550471]

>>29549988
plants are shitty nutrition.

[Anonymous No.29550902]

>>29549135
It's uncanny how often that happens.

[Anonymous No.29551028]

>>29549814
I do agree with you, despite the (easy measureable) caloric inefficiency. I think that not eating meat at all reveals many more inefficiencies that negate the benifit. I also know that soil health is a severly inderestimated factor by the general population, and that large herds grazing can substantially improve the soil. Check out the video I linked, if you haven't yet.

>40-60 million bison
>100 million heads of cattle
You contradict yourself. If 50M were possible naturally, the current 100M are already a strech. What becomes clear however is that a light reduction of maybe 30% in meat consumption AND better farming practices might be a sweetspot between good nutrition and enviromental sustainability.

>Same thing in Africa
If humanity manages to re-cultivate otherwise unusable land with emulation of large herds (see the ted talk linked above), it could be one of the best human man enviromental improvements in our lifetime. More usable land = nutritional production further spread out = less burden per acre = healthier soil = more nutrition generated. It's a very hopeful take, admittingly.

[Anonymous No.29551632]

>>29551028
Caloric inefficiencies? First of all there is more to food than just calories. All the nutrients are super important. This is why you miss the mark completely, you are looking at one variable instead of trying to determine what is the most healthy diet for humans and understand the root of the situation. Cows turn fucking grass into meat and protein that is edible and nutritious to us - that is efficient if you ask me. Does it matter that you can pump out calorically dense corn for cheap monetary input? Yes if you are trying to make money on selling junk. That doesn’t really matter when you start to realize what food is actually healthy for you based on our evolution and then frame your questions from there.

[Anonymous No.29551791]

>>29549425
I'd say its one of the only cryptos that is actually used as a currency. Like not just "use btc, eth, xrp or cash to buy here" its "you need xmr to buy here".

[Anonymous No.29551882]

>>29551028
>You contradict yourself.
That wasn't the intent of my language. Bison are larger than cattle and our current agricultural system is inefficient on a resources per head basis (because it's more dollar efficient mass process cattle for one specific purpose). If we ditched cows and went to just bison (fine by me I like bison meat), even if we only went to (estimated) historic head counts, we'd presumably extract more resources per head if we assume a sustainable model. Going to cattle, optimizing grazing patterns, and getting more out of each steer, I assume we could get close to our current beef output, especially in terms of what people actually care about. Few people give a shit what actually goes into their mystery meat products and more of it could be filler. There are probably several economic impacts. The most obvious is that beef would be more expensive on a per kg level. On the flip side, a sustainable beef industry would likely productively employ more people at better wages doing what ranchers did historically; herding, butchering, managing, etc. Additionally I don't think it's necessary for beef to be as cheap as it is now. I believe it should play an important part in our ecology, diet, and economy, but it doesn't need to be the sole source. We could stand to consume more (diverse) plant foods as well as more fish and fowl, and even within beef we consume a lot of ground beef and ignore a lot of cuts as well as organs.

[Anonymous No.29552065]

>>29551632
Consider that 13th century Chinese manlets on circus ponies blew the fuck out of the entire Eurasian mainland because they lived on carnivore diets and their victims were plant nibblers.

>>29551791
If a business only exists on the darknet or in ad-hoc personal interactions, and only takes XMR, does it exist at all?

[Anonymous No.29552150]

>>29504526
China has had crypto banned for years. Yet, China is the biggest country for Bitcoin farming. Illegally. If China, a dictators wet dream, can't can crypto neither can 1st world country with Human rights.

[Anonymous No.29552629]

>>29552150
I'm not sure I'd put that much stock in China having actually banned it. They probably just said they did to fool foreigners. This is f2pool's official Chinese business registration number.

[Anonymous No.29552644]

>>29551632
>Caloric inefficiencies? First of all there is more to food than just calories. All the nutrients are super important.
Yes, I fucking know that. That's why I wrote "easy measurable". It's an argument that is often brought up and I was arguing against it.
What nutrition is best for humans is fucking hard to pinpoint as there are so many variables. Yes, there are carbs, protains and fats, but each are groups of hundrets of molecules. And that doesn't even include the complex interaction between them nor the hundrets of micro-nutrients.

>Yes if you are trying to make money on selling junk.
I'm an engineer. It's my job to optimize things for efficiency. Health, nutrition, agriculture and enviroment is one of the most complex, interlocked system with billions if not trillions of variables. It's a tough problem and only optimizing for one parameter (ie calories per $) is likey worse than doing nothing at all.


>>29551882
>Bison are larger than cattle
Ok, fair point. Maybe 100M is easily possible then. I never saw a bison in perso and assumed they were kinda the same size.
Your other reasoning is sound, and I could totally see it working out. The only question is how humanity could get there from where we are right now.

[Anonymous No.29552736]

> load the korea fud

[Anonymous No.29552813]

>>29552629
They've banned their public from using it, and attempt to enforce it regularly I believe.

[Anonymous No.29552823]

>>29552644
We export some crazy high fraction of American beef production overseas. If the US stopped exporting food we'd have absolutely no problems with "sustainability" or whatever. This would also kill half of China and a third of Africa, so /pol/ should be easy to get on board.

[Anonymous No.29552956]

>>29545725
because you're probably a cute introverted boy and those are the kinds of guys that get turned into pets. just make sure you have your totally legal plastic ghost gun with you

[Anonymous No.29553017]

>>29552823
>If the US stopped exporting food we'd have absolutely no problems with "sustainability" or whatever.
If you stopped exporting, had fewer cow and implemented sustainable practices like agressive heard rotating to improve the soil. Sustainability is not that much about economics, but ensuring that resoucrces required for production don't degrade over time.