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29128587 No.29128587 [Reply] [Original]

>Market is not even open and esemgee is already at 2 threads per hour.

Slow down a bit, take your ADHD mediacation, switch to decaf, and enjoy a hopefully green day.

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Please, tell me I was not the only one furiously refreshing >search "cmg"
I honestly couldn't bear another red day (yes, Bobo: pun intended)

>> No.29129289

pls post more macicke. miaw

>> No.29129483

Good morning gentlemen, let's get comfortable premarket is looking fine

>> No.29129536

Whoa, new board added! Professional wrestling bros must be happy.

>> No.29129537
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good morning, frens

>> No.29129552
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Comfy Steel

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Which slavic language is this? I didn't know macska is slavic in origin.

>> No.29129649


Macska means cat

>> No.29129684

macik language desu

>> No.29129689

>still bagholding 3/19 $18C

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... I know?

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I do the same thing every morning

>> No.29130465

How much are you all holding in cash?
I'm at like 50% of my liquid assets right now and i'm scared of buying more stocks in case everything goes to shit

>> No.29130765
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I'm trying to time the market, I'm just crazy like that.
My feeling is monday will be a bloodbath so today I'm looking to close some positions.
I'm kinda obsessing over this desu.

>> No.29130780

hahahahha ngmi

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Morning fren.
I'd say it really depends whether you have to live with that cash or you have constant revenue. Makes more sense to have some spare cash to buy dips/occasions rahter than foreseeing the crash.

Anyway, I wanted to hop on MAXR considering it was dipping yesterday notwithstanding Perseverance...and now mooning again. I'll wait for a midday dip.
>already in SRAC

>> No.29130917

300k cash. Rest securities. Will be decreasing to 150k cash.

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>Open up /smg/
>Log in on my futures broker
>Fix a cup of coffee
>New /smg/ posted
>Sips on coffee
>Read a couple of posts
>Go back looking at futures marking down good potential positions to take
>New /smg/ posted
I don't even have time reading that shit, I'm pretty sure at least 95% of /smg/ doesn't even trade.. they are just there shitposting while sitting on a bunch of penny stocks

>> No.29131266

Why can't you create the thread yourself? Not that it matters this much even these threads have gone to shit lately. I guess people have just upped and left.

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I'm a simple PLTR farmer, tending to my cozy gains.
It was so obvious that yesterday was the shakeout bots switching gears and keeping the price at a $25 level for a future takeoff.

>> No.29131369

People have lost a lot money in crashes, but they've lost more money preparing for the crash.

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I guess simply out of respect for the original /cmg/ poster: I'd be glad for a standard OP started daily during market hours.
Are we done with the lockup period?
>9.60$ shareholder

>> No.29131891

Yeah. No idea how people follow anymore. CMG is new SMG.

>> No.29131951

Are you expecting a big jump after earnings?

>> No.29132095

Yeah, that's what i was thinking. I am living off that cash, but i have enough for like 5 years which is probably overkill.
Yeah i just want to have enough to be able to buy some nice cheapies in case that happens. I would put some money into some more reliable types of investments but not sure what.

>> No.29132112

Everything is too green today. I don't like it.

>> No.29132253

>green friday
this is peak clown market

>> No.29132335

80 something percent cash.

Will be buying good shares at a discount on intrinsic though. No worries if the market crashes that way

>> No.29132359

Looks like it's because the dollar is going down again

>> No.29132378

Norwegian starts cruising again in March so I'm waiting for the next shipboard epidemic and then hopefully buying in on the cheap. I still believe in their recovery, but I think it'll be a good, long while.

>> No.29132460

I was 50% cash too, but I just spent it all in the morning. I'm pretty sure we bottomed out.
If not, my TSLA puts will save me.

>> No.29132508

horsebros we are back in business

>> No.29132540

I mean, I think we know a big implosion is coming at some point, but I don't see clown market dynamics changing anytime soon. It just makes me feel quite uncomfortable. Still haven't closed any positions.

>> No.29132567

as a bong this is fucking me

>> No.29132585

Based Lynch appreciator.

I have some stable-ish positions which I sell if I see some good looking dip

>> No.29132623

remember when you had a million dollars?

>> No.29132693

Hello fellow Bong, I think there are 3 of us here. This lockdown is really taking it's toll on me. I thought I was doing a lot better than I was but had a real bad day yesterday. How about you?

>> No.29132759

I'm pretty sure WKHS will still crab back to $25. It just follows the market. (Compare with URTY for example)

>> No.29132795

Shill me something to buy.

>> No.29132799

>there are “people” that didnt buy PLTR yesterday

>> No.29132848

Remember, it's not the economy strengthening, it's the dollar dying. Green isn't "green", ya know?

>> No.29132851

buy zom to make the price go up so i can get rid of it

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What do you guys do during market hours?

Playing Link to the Past rn. Very comfy

>> No.29132943

i basically only leave the house to go to work anyway so am doing ok. glad i can still work tho, i think furlough/unemployment would be too much. im basically just bored of it all now lol

>> No.29132959

I hope UUUU closes slightly under 6, so I get assigned on my short put.

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Let it run


What is Long term vs short term capital gains

>> No.29133013

So we are all parasites, aren't we?
>I'm a europoor so that's fine.

>> No.29133054

personally i do my job ;-;
id like to be playing that new squenix tactics game tho

>> No.29133058

You need to leave you're the polar opposite of comfy cap

>> No.29133111

Markets just allocate money to those with more foresight. Any wealth we gain is both a reward and a burden for us to use rebuilding a better post-dollar world for us and our loved ones.

>> No.29133333

wew i hope you all got in FRX

>> No.29133388

not the most comfy thing desu.
at least you have the weekend tomorrow

>> No.29133403

Probably going to play some kingdom come or valheim

>> No.29133431

Unfortunately my fun money's all tied up in RIOT and MARA calls. Nice quints though. How much FRX you got?

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Online master's class trying to stay awake.
Oh, don't get me wrong: I'm with you on that. We're way beyond the point of correction: the system needs to be reset and rebuilt

>> No.29133487

what's the bet that CLF closes under 17.5 again?

In this time you could've sold your position and made much better profits. You need to go back

>> No.29133514

>already have a few month's living expenses of cash in my savings account
>employer keeps giving me filthy cash every two weeks
I hold zero cash in my brokerage account beyond the residual that's below the price of a share.

>> No.29133637

How are you so sure it's not the economy? Maybe the new economy is based on tech shit and maybe tech shit actually brings way more value than old shit.

I'm also reasonably sure that the dollar is dying, but confidently stating that the economy is dying and unironically saying that the market is not based on reality is pure hubris.

>> No.29133638

not the most comfy by a long shot but it's been a slow week so ive been getting to take it a bit easy. exercising during work hours, taking occasional naps. work from home is a weird life.

>> No.29133701

>/smg/ nigh unreadable
Sad! Many such cases.

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TGH had been under the radar but this will go well above 30. Shipping has been good. Work for a railroad and car loadings have been up 10%. Economic recovery is in full swing. I'm up 17% this week on TGH

>> No.29133820

60, wish i got more but i only bought it on a whim after a post here

>> No.29133859

that shit would put me to sleep faster, idk how people learn when they're tired
everything's weird these days desu. Market included.

>> No.29134048

RTX and TER saving my portfolio after this uncomfy week :)

>> No.29134067

what do you guys think about the possibility of a ~50% crash in the near future? i think its very possible the bubble is about to violently burst

>> No.29134196

/smg/ is a bot-infested meme thread

>> No.29134241

They repost the same shit everyday, it's literally spam.

>> No.29134358

>exercising during work hours
This is the hidden secret. Since my gym closed for the Rona, I've gotten into the best shape I've been in since I was in the army 20 years ago. Take a short break every hour to do a couple sets of bodyweight exercises and then get back to work. That's how I do it. It's great. I might never go back to the gym.

>> No.29134514

I can't ever find good body weight exercises for biceps, chin ups are okay but I definitely still lose mass if I'm not doing some form of curls, cable curls are my fav

>> No.29134541

/smg/ is literally just a stocktwits mirror nowadays.

>> No.29134589

Earnings already happened, so in theory yes. I'm at $20.
Apparently the Boomer press is picking up on it again, but this time in a more positive light thanks to earnings.

>> No.29134619

Any financial advice for a recently enlisted fellow? I'm trying to invest as much of my pay as possible

>> No.29134701

At the risk of this devolving too much into /v/, what's the name? This is the first I've heard of this.

>> No.29134789

I saw the norwegian shill weeks ago, but norwegian bros chimed in:
There's a non trivial chance of it declaring bankruptcy. They will dilute too, that's for sure.
The main problem is WizzAir swooped in and ate their lunch. I can believe that, because WizzAir is actually a pretty good company.

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DNN down again, please kill me

>> No.29134808

>1000% revenue beat was priced in
Wow you're telling me a market cap 3 times higher than pre-COVID is high enough what a shocker nobody could have seen this coming

>> No.29134932

Do you not have a job? How many of you hear don't have jobs and can survive on your trading income?

>> No.29134945

DCA into SPY.

PLTR is a retarded, non-viable company and the earnings validated my point that they sold their contracts below value, and their model is most probably unscalable and not worht of this valuation.

Then again, leddit and the press is pumping it again, so I actually hold a non-trivial position, but I will sell immediately when I smell a peak.

>> No.29134949

/sp/ couldn't stand them or they couldn't stand /sp/?

>> No.29134993

How is that sustainable?

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post a picture of you holding SOXL

>> No.29135055

>be you
>buy into an absolutely obvious pennystock PnD (a random stock that jumped a few 10% in a week before anyone started talking about it, then a ton of shills came, pumped it up, and then left you to hold the bag)
>ask "why is it going down? :("
Absolute state and stuff.

>> No.29135117

Clown market is an overused stale meme
The whole honkler shit was cringe from the beginning

>> No.29135162

Right now playing Minecraft, I'm out of day trades, last two days were stressful enough, so I'm just waiting to see how the day will end and for my options to expire.

>> No.29135165

Near future as in 2022-2024 sure, a 50-60% correction across the market. Could even be a ~70% crash if the market continues blasting like this before then. I don't believe for a second that we will hold the early 2020 lows or even mid ranges if we go down to test those levels, it will just be widespread panic and margin calls pushing us lower

>> No.29135183

I'm in a creative field, which is more flexible. Income from investments has recently become my main source of money though.

>> No.29135208

I pulled 10% of my portfolio out of securities the other day and now regret it, but honestly it's probably best to have some cash on hand. So yeah, 10% cash. And that's just the dumb money.
My Roth and 401k stay invested in mutuals, come what may. Compared to that, anything I play around with is just a drop in the bucket.

>> No.29135215

Project Triangle Tactics (working title). There's a demo out on Switch but it won't be real until 2022.
>non trivial chance of it declaring bankruptcy
Yeah, definitely a fair concern. Can airlines really replace luxury cruising, though? I guess with the price point being so much lower people are much more likely to not want to wait 3 days between fun places and instead just fly over real quick. I think I'll sell what I have and then re-examine whenever they hit the toilet again.

>> No.29135219

There is, by definition, no such thing as "peak" clown market.

>> No.29135294

try inverted chin curls
None of us long-term investors is looking for a GME pnd: we're looking ahead to the value their product will have in the foreseeable future.
>also LOTR and Batman references, how could I not be into it!?

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Sh-shut up

>> No.29135339

Oh wait, you are talking about Norwegian cruiselines, not airlines.

The problem with cruiselines is that they are very deep into debt, and they did actually sell a lot of their ships. It will take years for them to recover, and most of this is already priced in.

>> No.29135351

shill me 2 tickers that haven't mooned

>> No.29135451

Fuck day trading, I tried it two days ago on an announcement swing. I made $6k but it's too much stress for me. IDK how you guys can do that consistently.

Minecraft is peak comfy

>> No.29135459

Sorry :C
But please do sell if you want to preserve your sanity... and money.

I'm pretty sure Palantir will implode under their "growth" in 1-2 years if they can't ramp up hiring to 12. And I'm pretty sure they can't.
Just take a look at GlassDoor reviews.

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>powers that be will just let the market crash nonstop despite pricing in the apocalypse in march 2020 as well as the liquidity crisis

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>the bubble
NPC detected

>> No.29135540

CRBP is down on a support level.
REGI is a money printer that's currently in a dip.

>> No.29135579

Ah, talking at cross purposes. Definitely a long-term type of investment, I guess it's really just a question of how much I want sunk in something that long.

>> No.29135650

Just buy some cheap-ass TSLA puts if you really are afraid of a sudden crash.
At most what will happen is crabbing or a slow deflate like the Dotcom bubble.

>> No.29135686

How do you explain all the $2.5 calls on the call spread though?

>> No.29135695

I don't really day trade, just tried to get some pocket money, as my short put on UUUU got ITM and was eating my gains. It went fairly well, the limit of 4 trades a week is just too limiting, since I don't have 25k.

>> No.29135705

$57 billion market cap?
I don't know that it is, but I think it would be pretty dumb to open a short position here.
I'm just laughing at the fact that people in /smg/ last night were hoping for a big rise TODAY like they've never seen an earnings beat before.

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Was going to get in to MARA last night but didn’t bother and now it’s on the way back up. Think I’ll buy when it settles down a bit later on.

“Boomer tier” Wells Fargo repaying my faith as well today, still $20 off it’s peak. Buy this stock when it dips.

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>> No.29135853

>limit of 4 trades
is that a robinhood thing?

>> No.29135891

he means day-trades below 25k, that's pretty much every broker in the US

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>post a picture of you holding SOXL

>> No.29135996

Yeah, keep in mind that a conservative portfolio of 100% TQQQ yields 10% a month. Selling covered calls on memestocks is even more.


>> No.29136034

No, it's a FINRA limitation, if you make 5 or more day trades within a week, you will get blocked from trading for 90 days.

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The only reason I lurk in these threads anymore is the Lum posting

>> No.29136151

>FRX mooning
I was planning to buy today but I guess not.

>> No.29136199

>he doesnt know we have been in a bubble since 2018
people were calling out the 2008 bubble for years before it popped

>> No.29136330

Hasn't there always been a much greater degree of lumposting in smg? Can't say I've noticed that much of it here. Maybe its become like background noise.

>> No.29136346

>Don't you dare try to make money by daytrading if you are poor
The absolute state of US legislation. You literally have "stay poor" laws.

>> No.29136421

The apocalypse wasn't priced in, the cheap debt created by the fed prevented any real price discovery

The real economy is in shambles yet the stock market is doing better than analysts would have predicted in 2019 without any pandemic on the horizon
We're either going to see a crash or we're going to see hyperinflation. Something's got to give. Printing money doesn't create wealth out of thin air.
If you believe otherwise you are the keynesian NPC.

>> No.29136426

i have UVXY leaps, slow deflate isnt possible because momentum algos and retailers who just discovered puts will drop the market like a sack of bricks and raise it just as quickly

>> No.29136509

makes sense. Day trading is just gambling for most people

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It seems to have really picked up recently. Especially after the short squeeze craziness

>> No.29136845

This week's proven I'm an insanely paper-handed bitch. I only lost $500 or so but holy fuck am I a complete retard that chases dumb shit and can't even hold through a tough time.

>> No.29137036

If you're long vol just do straddles
Being long uvxy you are paying futures contango for nothing

>> No.29137042

>2008 bubble
Case schiller index, yes it was easy to see
>2018 bubble
Evidence please?
Why isn't TSLA Google and AAPL going to have trillions in revenue from robot cars and all the rest?
I believe in P/E ratios but they don't account for future revenues based on technological innovation, do they?

>> No.29137070

The old rules of economics just don't make sense anymore. Inflation has been MIA for years, even with the Fed printing and spending like crazy during an economic boom.

Post March 2021, some stocks are booming higher than ever now despite the lagging economy. Unemployment is high as hell, with many folks leaving the workforce entirely.

Someone call an economist. I think the Phillips Curve is broken.

>> No.29137229

Official art 5 is my favorite
I miss that kind of style, takes me back...

>> No.29137385

That's the second time the shiller ratio ever went above 1929 levels
But I guess all the money printing since 2008 changes things

>> No.29137390

Supported the CRBP, the weed company that has results their lebanasum look promising as an alternative anti inflamatory

Anybody some thoughs on PFE?
>been diping for a month
>strongest rollout of the vaccine, efficacy proven in jewland aka Israel
>recently posted their new cold storage limits for their vaccine:https://twitter.com/pfizer/status/1362751678320099331?s=20
> Has dividens
I know I know bio market unstable, but seems like a comfy hold for 3 months and a possible boom in july due to international interest

>> No.29137481

Apparently USD and UWM were good purchases.

What else do I comfy buy?

>> No.29137545

So what you're saying is all we need to fix global povertry is to get everybody set up with a conservative 100% TQQQ savings account?

>> No.29137546

everything was getting liquidated to buy treasuries, of course theres not gonna be real price discovery. cant discover price when you freeze trading every 1/2 second either

>> No.29137554

Most artstyles with big pupils like that are remembered fondly because they're personable. The 70's anime style on the other hand was certainly imperfect on the other hand, it wasn't until the 80's that the style got massively improved but Lum still had some 70's traits in the early show to stay truer to the manga.

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>> No.29137663

Do you even realize that the S&P is up 80% from the 2020 low in less than a year while Nasdaq is up over 100%? If you think that's normal in any way or form you're just dumb. It will start off as being a 15-20% correction across the market which most people actually expect because it's needed, but because of the pressure from the amount of margin calls piling up we're gonna get pushed down lower and then comes the doomsday fear on-top of that making people sell more. Margin debt has been piling up extremely in the past year ($200 billion in december alone) and looking back at past data it has ALWAYS led to a tumble.
Also, what should worry people is the fact that as we all know the market doesn't even react to actual fundamentals and valuations anymore.. it's literally just people (speculators) chasing the rapidly rising bull, and eventually the bull will have to rest and that's when the exact same people that has been chasing will start panicking.

>> No.29137680

exactly, the massive amounts of money printing has greatly distorted the market

>> No.29137695

>yields 10% a month
I never got into index funds, is it really that consistent? That's doubling investment every 7 months which in 4 yrs is ~128 times initial investment (in the imaginary world of line only go up).

>> No.29137800

Speaking of treasuries, I'm getting raped on TMF
Serves me right for buying the hopium from that faggot Steven Von Metre

>> No.29137830

I only do clinical-stage biomemes with upcoming catalysts. Anything that pays dividends is boomer tier in my book, and I have ETFs for that.

But if I wanted to put money in vaccines, I'd go for NVAX, because their technology is absolutely superior to both adenovirus and mRNA-based stuff.
Maybe VXRT if they can prove that IgA immunity is good enough.

It's absolutely not consistent, but it averages out to this. Just zoom out on TQQQ. And be prepared to sell immediately if you sniff a crash.

>> No.29137931

yesterday was a bloodbath, i need to learn how to take profits.

>> No.29137937

I'm not really a good enough trader to be giving advice, lol. I'd say keep most of your stack in something conservative and use a small chunk to speculate with. Otherwise, learn everything you can and get experience trading.

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>pic related
There will be no crash, the tech companies are basically fairly valued, it's just that a ton of future inflation is priced in.

>> No.29138074

How come it doesn't get reflected in the CPI though? How are they rigging it exactly, massive subsidies?

>> No.29138089

i'm new and just want that first 200k so i can cash out 10 percent and buy a year lease on a nice studio.

>> No.29138182

Boomer company that mooned for no reason with a mediocre dividend? Shill me on this fren

>> No.29138195

>just want that first 200k
How much are you seeding with?

>> No.29138206

The money printing has been contained to the asset markets, because Infinite QE pumps money oiinto bonds, that quickly go into equities, and then to banks, which put the money back into the Fed via Excess Reserves.

The stimulus will be different, because it actually gives the people money, which will circulate for quaite a bit, and that's way harder to control.

>> No.29138232

I love the fantasy theme too.
We used to have hot girls with swords everywhere and now it's considered bad design for the mainstream public.

>> No.29138262

yeah i expect all of that to evaporate at some point but going past march lows is a stretch, especially with inflation and company growth factored in

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i didnt buy the dip yesterday and im never comfortable buying on fridays

>> No.29138427

Yes but the mRNa vaccine technology doesnt look more promising, I mean we are talking about possible individualized cancer treatmets, NVAX brings nothing new that a sintetic protein , VXRT, im IgA mediated inmunity doesnt last for long

On another note how long does /cmg/ think will take for airlines to recover, I did a baby bet on UAL and its the only thing going green in my folio

>> No.29138486

I bought some Barrick Gold, thoughts on this? Plan on holding for a few years.

>> No.29138490

I've been in JETS for a few weeks now, been a nice and consistent gainer

>> No.29138595

What's the benefit of leasing vs renting?

>> No.29138604

How does the money go into equities? The money mainly goes to the treasury through bond auctions that then uses it to pay contractors and government employees
There's a small premium that goes to the primary dealers (banks) but if that was a big amount the bank stocks would soar more than the rest of the market

>> No.29138638

>im never comfortable buying on fridays
Yeahhh buying on Fridays seems like unreasonable risk exposure. Why not just set orders to execute on open at Monday next?

>It will start off as being a 15-20% correction across the market which most people actually expect because it's needed, but because of the pressure from the amount of margin calls piling up we're gonna get pushed down lower and then comes the doomsday fear on-top of that making people sell more.
When do you predict the correction? Mid-March?

>> No.29138706

>tech companies with P/E ratios in the hundreds are fairly valued

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>> No.29138738

hit me with your comfy opinions on AMDs trajectory over the next 1, 2 and 3 months /biz/

Currently 270 shares in at 89, expecting the stock to slowly rise to 100 by may, with another dip right beforehand after earnings. Considering selling right before earnings again and buying on the dip. Profits are slow but stable so I'm not worried about the stock dumping 15% or more between now and next year.

>> No.29138841

>which will circulate for quaite a bit, and that's way harder to control.
This is due to fractional reserve banking right? I think the current reserve levels are set to 0, with some additional tuning right? Usually at 10% reserve requirements every dollar creates 10x the number of dollars.

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>money printing
>keynesian NPC
You believe it's that's simple. It's not like I'm an optimist but have you considered this is the decade we get personal robots, self-driving cars, and start colonizing a new planet?
Maybe you're just irrational when faced with log charts. I'm asking you why AAPL can't be a $10 trillion company and it's like asking someone in 1940 why Coke can't be a $200 billion company. They'd just call me crazy because $200 billion soft drink companies are a bad Keynesian joke, right?

>> No.29138939

How would I capitalize on your predictions using puts but not calls? Calls make me nervous in this frothy market

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>must consoom more

>> No.29139207

We're going to dump again this afternoon aren't we?

>> No.29139250

convince china to invade taiwan

>> No.29139354

Unironically yes, having everyone invest for retirement in market cap weighted index funds is insanely efficient. It's literally the least wasteful thing possible.
The whole deal with pension funds is trading highly leveraged bonds and less highly leveraged stocks with a few short positions for hedging. The more billions of $ an institution has the more it socks away in 80x leveraged bonds, but when you hear about institutional investors "chasing risk" that means they're switching more to leveraged equities to chase yields.
I think, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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memes will dump, megacaps will pump (except FB)

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>> No.29139425

You are thinking of old-school money printing.
The new school is QE, where the Fed is buying junk bonds for $80B in commercial bonds every _month_. Someone is selling those bonds. That someone in turn either puts this money into a bank, or buys equities. The equity seller will sooner or later put the money into a bank. But that money never really leaves the bond/equity markets (only in the occassional Public Offerings)

>> No.29139494

I'm gonna be out of town until Sunrun's earning report, what should I set the sell limit at to capitalize on the hype?

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>want to buy shitcoins but have to save up for the dental jew

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>all we need to fix global povertry
You're asking a dangerous question to a man with dangerous ideas.

If you are concerned about inflation, fixing poverty is the last thing you want to do. New wealth creates new demand, which increases prices. Textbook rise in CPI, from the bottom up.

>> No.29139608

>what is Price vs future earnings ratio?
Or do you think a chicken is worthless until the moment it starts laying eggs?

Not really, it's just money flow dynamics. But I won't claim I understand it well, so you'll have to do a shiton of reading about it instead.

>> No.29139631

im at 56k right now

>> No.29139712

i don't have to have fucking roommates while i accumulate more wealth. get the kitty litter box out of my room

>> No.29139729
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Studios will always be inferior to good old soviet apartments.

>> No.29139771

Any other bobos here? I'm getting fucked.

>> No.29139800

I meant in general. You can rent and not have roommates.

>> No.29139844

This is something that Denmark did, and they are doing pretty okay.

>> No.29139864

none, maybe secrutiy you won't randomly get told to move out. also i'm hoping if i go 1year upfront i can get a discount, these luxury places always have openings. the affordable places never do.

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TEETH is the best fucking stock you can buy into. Don't fucking wait till 20 years from now to start or you'll get fucked even harder. Bad teeth means bad gums means poor heart health, depression, loss of self esteem, danger of only getting cheap whores to kiss your rotting cavernous maw, and an inability to enjoy sandwiches. Never feel bad about taking profit, never feel bad about investing in your own health.

>> No.29140021

>Price vs future earnings ratio?
and what do you think happens when the earnings dont meet expectations?

>> No.29140025

I've watched dozens of amateur Russian porn films that were probably filmed in these exact buildings.

>> No.29140061

Yes. PE has a place and it's quantifying present earnings. Other metrics quantify growth.
Do you think John Bogle liked to look at present earnings only?
>Mr. Bogle, we have plans to expand and have spent millions on capex to -
Not how it works, dude.

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i've been buying a put or two every week as insurance. even in march i just kept buying puts and shoving the gains right back into stocks. never go full bobo.

>> No.29140210

anyone got a recent bogdabot report?

>> No.29140216

Haha yeah and gold is going to zero because of starship and asteroid mining

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i unironically want to live in a shack in the woods. i'm only in the market so i can own the land and not be a dirty squatter.

>> No.29140306

A correction for sure. In fact, the first moment "the market" smells that earnings will not be as good, there will be a correction. This one of the causes of the current volatility, that even small news can drastically change the perceived future earnings.

>> No.29140319

fuck you buddy stop acting smart

>> No.29140354

i have all of those things but my teeth are okay. guess i'll never make it

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>and what do you think happens when the earnings dont meet expectations?
This is what it comes down to.
You're too stupid to understand the value being created this decade. So much value, enough that no amount of human incompetence can prevent it.
You're about to have a robot that makes you sandwiches for the price of an SUV. I don't care if you're personally impressed or personally making use of it, you sound like someone in Spain in 1495 saying this New World isn't a big deal. You sound like someone who hears about the cotton gin or the steam engine and isn't impressed.

>> No.29140524

Fren, you're applying private company logic to a government contractor. If you knew anything about how the government contractor space works, you'd change your tune.
PLTR has connections, experience working in national security environments, and a compelling narrative that they helped catch Bin Laden.
They're basically Salesforce for three-letter agencies that needs to refit models for each application? That's not an insult, that's the entire point.

>> No.29140552

Your inability to respond rationally makes me much more confident in my long term investing thesis, thank you.

>> No.29140634

Yes the ones selling those bonds are the companies and the money is going to pay for employees, commercial real estate and all the things capital is normally used for
Companies don't issue corporate debt to buy stocks... or do they

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>> No.29140803

Remember when you doxxed yourself because you're a fucking moron?

>> No.29140855

Anyone still holding TLS? Are you treating it as a long-term play like PTLR?

>> No.29140880

fuck off let it dump!! i cant get in at these levels. hoping it dumps from earnings instead

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>> No.29140957

>They're basically Salesforce for three-letter agencies that needs to refit models for each application
Exactly. They have to hire more and more people for more and more projects. Support cost goes up quadratically over time. Developers get crushed under workload. Hiring can't keep up. They may or may not survive this transition.
And TBQH, their CEO does not look like a guy that could handle this transition (from creating pretty models to being basically an outsourcing company).

That's... Actually true.

Then again, the Fed is buying mostly already issued bonds, especially junkier ones on which many companies have defaulted in the last year, basically erasing this money from existence.

>> No.29140979

At the height of the boom,
stock prices had been bid up to astronomical price-earnings ratios while dividends went out of style. Stock
prices increased more than fourfold during the great boom from February 1920 to November 1921. Then,
however, shortly after the first upturn of price inflation and long before the inflationary engine faltered and
business began to weaken, a stock market crash occurred. This was the Black Thursday of December 1,1921.
Stock prices fell by about 25 percent in a short time and hovered for six months while all other prices were
soaring. The real value of stocks declined steadily because their prices lagged far behind the prices of tangible
goods, until for example the entire stock ownership of the great Mercedes-Benz automobile manufacturer was
valued by the market at no more than 327 cars. Investors were extremely slow to grasp that stocks were poles
apart from fixed obligations like bonds, quite wrongly thinking that if bonds were worthless stocks must be
too. Nearer the end in 1923, relative prices of stocks skyrocketed again as investors returned to them for their
underlying real value. Stocks in general were no very effective hedge against inflation at any given moment
while inflation continued; but when it was all over, stocks of sound businesses turned out to have kept all but
their peak boom values notably well. Stocks of inflation-born businesses, of course, were as worthless as
bonds were

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clf will have monster earnings. it will moon off earnings. buy now bros

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>> No.29141041

that means it should dump.

>> No.29141208

I sold a while ago. All the DD was
>here's why there will be a lot of hype
>here's why they'll grow into a $20 billion company
Why is Booz Allen $10 billion? I don't fucking know. I hate investing in things I can't grok especially when the reason I can't study it closely is muh state secrets.

>> No.29141225

If you want a real answer, the response is that self driving cars won't increase productivity that much
Realistic AI for the most part is already used in factory equipment yet real salaries don't go up that much
Colonizing Mars is an ultra meme for the next 200 years at least and we're bound to the available land and rising real estate prices to produce food and manufactured products
Also cheap to exploit oil deposits will begin to run out at some point

>> No.29141237

is that at least a nice part in Atlanta? If i lived in that city i'd kms

>> No.29141288

Oh hey! KTOS is pumping...
>Stalling out over lunch
>Will probably dump before day's end or in AH

>> No.29141392

People say we are running out of land/resources but 70% of Russia is basically as nice as Canada and nobody is even living there and the USA is pretty much being incredibly underused, can probably handle 3 billion people.

>> No.29141431

I hate this lady on CNBC right now

>> No.29141505

The ones pocketing the premium between the original price they bought the junk bonds at and the price the fed buys it for are the banks just as with treasuries

>> No.29141514

>my wallet has been connected to Bot Ocean platform and I wait for full release to use their bots for trading and analysis

but you can believe them and buy this trash

>> No.29141571

>can probably handle 3 billion people.
Nobody wants to live in fucking Wyoming.

>> No.29141577

I think the real reason we see these insane valuations is that we don't look at earnings 5 years into the future, but more like 20-30 years into the future due to the ridiculously low rates. And apple having insane value production in 20 years is absolutely concievable. TSLA too.

This is why the market would implode into a neutron star if JPow uttered the word "raise".

>> No.29141597

We're definitely not even fucking close running out of land but I'm unaware about the resources.

>> No.29141636

Ok but you see the pattern
The more people the more of the good land is taken up which raises prices in real estate and decreases profit margins

>> No.29141667

Yes, but that will not raise CPI.

>> No.29141851

>stocks of sound businesses turned out to have kept all but their peak boom values notably well
this is how im coping with my boomer holds while bitcoin miners do +20% a day

>> No.29141924

So where is the money going? If the banks are getting free money from the fed why aren't their stocks overperforming
Their equity holdings are public

>> No.29141947

fuck im dumping!!

>> No.29142044

Man you have no idea how much land is underused. Expansion of urbanization from the east coast past the app into the midwest is clearly the next phase of country growth. All that flat underdeveloped land while keeping the farmland could easily be the home to future pop-up cities. Cities that already exist like Louisville and Rockford and Lexington and Dayton and Fort Wayne and Peoria and Asheville and Chattanooga and Knoxville and Iowa City could easily expand rapidly over 100 years if there's enough reason to expand.

>> No.29142094

Banks are performing pretty well. Also, most of this is priced in I guess? Exactly because most information about this is public.

Calm down. This is /cmg/. Don't look at the line every second.

>> No.29142607

feels very bearish

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>told work I have COVID again
>one my third 14 day vacation in the past year.

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Anon the bigger problem is the consumer mentality, and the resulting land required to farm, and how that destroys our ecosystems. We need to build vertically and sustainably and try not to take over every inch of land like a fucking cancer

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Thanks for the heads up. Just sold it. Already have enough PLTR.

>> No.29142837

Each of these things is worth trillions of dollars in real value.
I'm not starry-eyed, you're just in straight up denial. "The cotton gin won't change things that much." "The steam engine is like a slightly better horse."
>self driving cars won't increase productivity that much
Not for you personally, but how about fleet operators? A small efficiency gain in the transport of goods will drive trillions in value.
>Realistic AI for the most part is already used in factory equipment yet real salaries don't go up that much
Salaries are a small part of the equation but I wasn't talking about that.
What about the cheap growth being realized by companies leaning increasingly on machines and AI?
>Colonizing Mars is an ultra meme for the next 200 years
That's how long it took to colonize the New World.
I think you should cut it by 9/10 realistically.
You think we need colonists to dig material out of the ground and ship it back or something but just expanding the economic network will drive trillions in value.
I don't understand how this is an argument. You're basically saying all the innovations of the 2020s are cool but they're not going to add appreciable value, that's just impossible for me to understand.
>looking 20-30 years into the future
You have no idea how fast this shit is coming.

>> No.29142861

It is impossible to overemphasize the importance to Germany's collapse of the period from about March of
1920 to the end of 1921, in which Germany was feeling quite healthy and prosperous while the rest of the
world was enduring a severe recession. Prices in Germany were steady, and both business and the stock
market were booming. The exchange rate of the mark against the dollar and other currencies actually rose for
a time, and the mark was momentarily the strongest currency in the world. From the first moment of this
prosperity, however, Germany had already embarked on a new monetary inflation which bought the boom.
Germany's fate was thus already chosen at the moment when the boom began, and it was gradually sealed as
the boom progressed.

>> No.29142887

They don't require any proof from you? Test results?

>> No.29142974

>try not to take over every inch of land like a fucking cancer
Why not tho? Beside nature being pretty, and useful sometimes.

>> No.29143061

Wyoming is beautiful and uncorrupted by onions milk drinking social media coordinators.

Cities are fucking disgusting, and you know it. Even if you're vastly wealthy in a city, you can't live more than 300 feet from thousands of antifa cannibals who desire nothing more than to eat your family in front of you.

Cities product nothing but used needles and pandemics, and cause nearly all of the nation's crime. I hope that you get trampled in your trendy, hipster, waterfront dive bar that serves that trendy new "beeruccino" everybody in the office has been talking about.

>> No.29143071

I work in ML, and I'm pretty sure that proper AI stuff is nowhere near. Some improvements and optimizations for some things we (as a species) do, but nothing dramatic.

>> No.29143079

Is this your report, anon, or are you quoting something else?

>> No.29143238

I'm quoting "Dying of Money: Lessons of the great German and American inflations" by Jens O Parsons. I'm reading through and posting the interesting tidbits

>> No.29143299

Nope. You don't even have to have COVID, you can just call in and say you had contact with someone who has COVID and get quarantined. You can also tell them you drove to the bordering state and get quarantined.

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any options savvy anon around?, what does it mean when a stock has a lot of options at a retarded high price?, don't they lose money if it doesn't get higher that that?

>> No.29143360

fcking piece of shit nasdump!!

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>> No.29143405

I am (but just 30 shares since IPO)
Do we still need to remind they're in two different sectors? Cybersecurity demand can only increase

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>> No.29143463

Booted off /asp/ by the skaters and airsoft guys.

>> No.29143532

Generally those options cost cents on the dollar being so out of the money, so the actual total monetary volume is lower. However in retard market it could also mean predatory investment firms trying to gamma squeeze stocks, so make sure to find the monetary volume of those transactions

>> No.29143546

At some point they'll probably get pissy tho if it keeps seeming like something you couldve prevented (like driving across state lines)

>> No.29143569

lol that's only a problem in w*stern countries. Antifa cannibals are simply not an issue in Sapporo or Taipei.

>> No.29143633

I could get into the issues holding back further urban expansion, but it'll excite the /pol/ shills.

Setting that aside, just because land is undeveloped and unutilized doesn't mean it is unowned or easily affordable. And the most remote parts of the country are liable to stay remote for a variety of reasons.
No point in building a factory where there aren't any roads wide enough to fit a semi truck, for example.

>> No.29143647

Hopefully red by EOD, then we can have a green monday.

>> No.29143719

Yes. Nothing bad ever happens in Eastern cities like Wuhan, China.

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What do I make of latest Greg's video? Should I go full cash?

>> No.29143867

I don't see self driving vehicles without a human in the loop any time soon

>> No.29143897

Yes, but aren't we missing here the costs of reparations and the severely reduced industrial complex?

>> No.29143912

>The SEC temporarily suspended trading of Marathon Group Corp
>beginning on Friday and ending on March 4
>the latest effort by the SEC to address soaring retail investor interest driven by conversation on social media platforms
>the SEC said “certain social media accounts may be engaged in a coordinated attempt to artificially influence” share prices.
>All three securities suspended on Friday saw sudden increases in their share prices and volumes in the absence of any publicly available news, the regulator said.
>in the absence of any publicly available news
>in the absence of any publicly available news
>in the absence of any publicly available news
Some boomer lawyer fails to do his fucking research and all the call holders get bogged.
Holy shit we need to abolish the SEC like now. Totally serious, abolish the SEC now. I don't even own MARA but this is retarded, capricious, offensive, and dangerous.

>> No.29143914

calm down ya spaz, if your investments aren't garbo they'll green back out

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>Sell my AMD Sell Puts this Friday
>Buy the AMD Sell Puts for next week
I ain't earn that much but damn, is it ever comfy

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nasdump is garbo it's the biggest piece of shit in history

>> No.29144217

Source, schizoid?
The day the SEC takes any action against anything whatsoever is the day they finally justify their own existence.

>> No.29144239

"Germans liked to point to reparations jointly with the fall of the exchange as the cause of the inflation. Some
outside observers also give credence to the proposition that the reparations demands drove down the foreign
exchange and forced Germany to issue inflated money. But the fact is that Germany never paid in reparations
anything like what the allies demanded. In the entire period from the end of the war until the end of the
inflation, the Germans paid only a paltry 2.4 billion gold marks in reparations, which was about five percent
of a year's national product and less than Germany later paid in a single year under the more benevolent
Dawes Plan. Germany paid no reparations at all for more than a year from September 1922 to the end, while
the inflation was at its worst. Foreigners actually lost six or seven times more on the billions of worthless
marks they acquired than Germany paid in reparations, so that Germany had a goodly net profit from
foreigners as a whole in the inflation. Germany unquestionably could have paid the trivial amount of its actual
reparations without destroying its money."

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What meme of a stock are you holding that's red!? I see a sea of green

>> No.29144286

I got 100 shares on Tuesday at $10.90 each. I'm pretty comfy!

>> No.29144290

And we make sure of that.

>> No.29144301

>Some improvements and optimizations
If you keep viewing posts like mine as starry-eyed futurist posting you will miss the point.
I know enough people in your line of work. Yes, the first step to understanding ML is to tone down your expectations. But look at the posts I'm replying to, these guys need to tone up their expectations. The shittiest ML applications in the wild, the cold boring reality that would disappoint the hell out of a techno-utopian optimist, are still going to be responsible for logarithmic growth this decade.

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>> No.29144456

I gotta stop arguing with bears all day and get around more

>> No.29144483

On Industrials;
"By all odds the principal blame for the inflation must rest with the right-wing parties and with the industrialists
and propertied interests who backed them. Helfferich of the Nationalists laid the groundwork with his
mismanagement during the war. Magnates like Hugo Stinnes and Fritz Thyssen and the entire voice of big
business obstructed every effective effort to put a stop to the inflation, because very simply the inflation was
good business for them. When Germany at last turned to the prominent industrialist Wilhelm Cuno in
November 1922, in the hope of finding succor in a government of businesslike soundness, his impotent
administration from then until August 1923, with the inimitable Johannes Becker in charge of economics,
presided inertly over the worst months of the inflation."

>> No.29144577

chicken bones are very bad for dogs due to their fragility and tendency to splinter, please only feed boneless

>> No.29144584

What do you think the captchas are for?, they are training the machine since long ago, and remember they dont need the machine to be perfect, just more reliable than the human.
Googled and didnt found anything about it
GEVO, but I think its a long term hold

Say /cmg/, if there was a market crash in the next weeks, aside ETFs what woud you buy?

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That's what everyone says even though they literally already exist.
You can go on porn sites and watch people fuck while getting chauffered.
>in b4 it's not perfect
And pic related was a joke until it became an industry worth more real value than the entire pre-industrial world

>> No.29144711

*while getting chauffered by AI


>> No.29144757

any ETF that holds investment banks with 3x leverage.

>> No.29144860

Speak for yourself faggot, I'd love to live there once I make it, one of the shortlist states, montana or utah are on there as well

>> No.29144919

>What do you think the captchas are for?
They're gonna have a hard time telling the difference between a parking meter and a mailbox.
Or a crosswalk and a bumper strip.
Or a bus and a truck.

>> No.29144932

I wonder what anon meant by this

>> No.29144993

Jesus I should have sold everything this morning.

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At what crazy price did you buy GEVO to be in the red?!

Thank you for these informative snippets, anon. I had never delved into such details.

>> No.29145047

And I'm sure they're spending billions of dollars solving that just for shits and giggles.

>> No.29145127

Got margin banned for 3 months, literally had enough cash and margin to do a leveraged position on tqqq from one day to the next. Had money owed and I selled it off the next day and then I get jewed. Can I blame 300% margin required GME for this

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holy fuck

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>What meme of a stock are you holding that's red!?

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Anyone else here holding TLS? Saw it shilled and bought for the first time when it was a little over 20 bucks. Has been a very comfy hold.

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Yeah, I'm not arguing that ML shit won't give us retarded levels of exponential growth. But yeah, you sound way too optimistic to get taken seriously.

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>We believe that the -- the -- the short or near-term to mid-term outlook on -- on global markets are not clear. We believe that the -- the -- the technical support for a stronger gold price is still very well embedded in the market and -- and we certainly haven't seen the consequence of this unprecedented quantitative easing that we've witnessed in the last nine months. You know orders of magnitude of what we saw over the five-year plan. So, that's -- that's first of all the way we -- we -- we frame our -- our business.
jesus christ what's with all the we --- we -- we you know


>> No.29145762

Oh shit, should learn to ctrl+f. Thanks!

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You guys I found it. The next meme stock. Whatever you do just don't FOMO.

>> No.29145824

>SEC suspends trading of pennystock PnDs
And nothing of value was lost. Looks like the GMEME finally got the SEC off their asses.

>> No.29145878

I'll be honest: I laughed more than I'm proud of at the salmon t-rex pasta.
/cmg/, 281 posts, please read it all/search for keywords before posting. We're trying to keep a maximum of 2 threads for market time. Thanks

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The S&P just went red...

>> No.29146260

fake and gay market
fake and gay economy
fake and gay fed chairman
fake and gay president
fake and gay treasury secretary

>> No.29146271

Lads, I have enough money to establish one more position before the weekend. I'm thinking maybe an airline stock (LUV) or defense contractor (LMT), but I'm open for any good ideas.
Any other ideas?

>> No.29146358

lmao faggots thought it was a green day today

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Ah, that's the stuff.

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>> No.29146423

You're just learning were in clown world?

>> No.29146444

if airline then SKYW, if defense then idk since I'm not knowledgeable there. But I'm sure lockheed or boeing would be fine.

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the selloff never ends

>> No.29146472

I'd go UAL before LUV

>> No.29146689

>you sound way too optimistic to get taken seriously
Thanks for the feedback. I will try a different approach some other time, my goal is to drive out any criticism and figure out why I'm wrong so I need to be taken seriously.
Interesting how hard it is to be bullish on tech megacaps without coming off as a techno-utopian. I'm expecting trillions in growth. If I thought we were about to enter Roddenberry universe I would have said quadrillions.
>pennystock PnD
The SEC doesn't need to justify it's objectively wrong claim about the "lack of news"
Nope, even though BTC $50k is on the front page of the Boomer Times, they should be able to do whatever they want.
Good bootlicker!

>> No.29146884

RTX has been nothing but kind to me

>> No.29147028

Shut the fuck up you nerd.

>> No.29147031

If you really want airlines, go with WIZZ. It is a pretty well managed company with good user experience and backing from the hungarian government. Before the coof, they were able to price out literally everyone else while still providing a good-enough service (as opposed to e.g. RyanAir).

They also in theprocess of killing Norwegian Air.

>> No.29147039

Correction: Marathon Group isn't Marathon Patent Group
I will now walk away in shame

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>> No.29147523

What fucking selloff? DJIA has been at the same fucking value for two weeks in a row. Fuck this shit, I'm bleeding so much money.

>> No.29148057

We still got 5 posts to limit.

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>> No.29148959

if you want the last word here go for it

>> No.29149648

Weird choice. Either let the thread die without reaching the bump limit.
Or let it die because of the bump limit.

It's like the trolley problem. And I have chosen.

>> No.29149989

310 now, such a weird decision