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Wow now I can pay 1/3d of a house in cash and then be back at 0

wow what an achivement!!!

>> No.28940285

No. You can buy 10 houses in the Ukraine. But you CHOOSE to stay a poor, limp, frail, PATHETIC westoid.

>> No.28940920

>>28940285
I dont' wanna get killed by putin

>> No.28940970

>>28940209
Literally just buy a house in northern Sweden for 35000 dollars.

>> No.28940982

>>28940285
Yeah but living in Eastern Europe is somehow even more miserable than living in the UK

>> No.28941037

>>28940209
kek iktf. I just reached 200k and looked up apartment prices in my city (centr Europe) and found out I could only afford nasty looking small studios. It's really 7 figures or rope

>> No.28941096

>>28940285
but what are the benefits of moving ukraine beyond cheap housing

>> No.28941147

>>28941096
Cheap food, cheap labor, cheap mostly everything.

>> No.28941180

Just get a mortgage. You have a job right? Your crypto will be your safety net

>> No.28941203

>>28941037

You can buy a house 10min away from a beach, in italy...

>> No.28941210

>>28941147
cheap getting murdered by the locals

>> No.28941223

>>28940285
westoids deserve the rope

>> No.28941235

>>28941147
won't i get stabbed for being a westerner?

>> No.28941282

>>28941037
yep, for 500k you get maybe a 2 roomer in any mid sized city like hamburg, helsinki or barcelona

1M in London, Paris or zurich

>> No.28941331

>>28941037
Bullshit why the fuck are you looking at such expensive houses.

If you are really from /biz/ you should be buying a cheap af house.

>> No.28941334

>>28941180
>Just get a mortgage. You have a job right? Your crypto will be your safety net
Everything that can be used against common people is likely to be used against them.
A mortgage just gives the bank and government a reason for punishing you and taking everything.

>> No.28941350

>>28941210
>>28941235
I don't really like Coach Red Pill that much but he makes some finance videos. He's an expat in Ukraine and recommends it. Personally my plan, like I said, is northern Sweden since you can get a great house for as little as 30k-55k.

>> No.28941370

>>28941282
>hamburg, helsinki or barcelona
>London, Paris or zurich
who wants to live in a city? that's where the bugeaters congregate

>> No.28941375

>>28941180
so literally nothing changes for my real life experience

you just defined 6 figure hell

>> No.28941416

>>28941370
this isn't pol

>> No.28941420

>>28941203
I am still studying, I can't move out yet.

>>28941331
Not even a house, it's an apartment. I live in the capital city so the market is fucked beyond imagination. I work and study here so I can't live anywhere else yet. And 200k for a small apartment is a low end here.

>> No.28941434

I escaped 6 figure hell last week but now im stuck again in the 900k-1 mil zone. fucking bitcoin

>> No.28941474
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>>28941180
These days you can use your crypto as collateral if I understand correctly. Check Mellon Bank of NY literally one of the oldest banks in USA now do crypto custodial services. You deposit you crypto to cold storage at their bank, and take out a loan against it. You immediately have double your money, meanwhile your crypto collateral will actually appreciate value faster than your house and can avoid capital gainz ... If shit ever hits the fan your crypto will be much more valuable

>> No.28941478

>>28941416
>facts are BAD

>> No.28941485

Just go all on Everest and you will x10 that money in few months

>> No.28941511

>>28941478
you stated an opinion not a fact

>> No.28941615

>>28941420

So save up, make a plan and execute said plan when you become big and strong

>> No.28941640

>>28941511
alright, it is an opinion. agree to disagree

>> No.28941685

>>28940209
fella euro here
I feel you, sir
good morning
mid 6 figures
trying to make sure my friends don't know how much i have
have to use suter shield
so many problems

>> No.28941748

>>28941640
yeah, i mean I just like cities more, bug eaters or not

>> No.28941801

I'm in mid 5-figure hell and I want to buy a flat in London. Am i fucking retarded?

>> No.28941822

Just buy a cheap house somewhere and then build down, making a secret high tech bunker.

>> No.28941868

>>28941801
at least you are far enough from the dream to make it not hurt so much

>> No.28941894

>>28940209
Planning to flee to Russia soon. Russia can be pretty nice if you've got money, much nicer than the third world shithole that is London. Cheaper cost of living, hot girls, nice nature, I recommend it. Don't keep your money in Russia though.

>> No.28941945

>>28941801
Probably yeah. You could probably find houses in the countryside for a tenth of the price of a London flat. Check out rural Wales or North England or something. I don't think the wages in a high cost area necessarily make up for the cost of living/housing.

>> No.28941974

>>28941282
Yeah at this point I finally realize the "3mil to make it" memes aren't just memes. 1mil is not enough unless you settle to live in some small cuckbox or unless you already own a house. Real estate is so fucking expensive.

>>28941615
Yeah thats the plan

>> No.28941990

>>28941748
i know full on rural areas are full of inbreds who drink themselves to death

>> No.28941994

>>28941801
yes, all of you are fucking retarded
having that much money saved up should feel COMFY. stop trying to skip to the end of the movie. you are in a better position than 90% of people.

>> No.28942021

>>28941974
Depends on where you want to live, how much you invest in stocks etc. You can certainly leanfire in the countryside with much less than 3mil.

>> No.28942022

>>28941375
Thats exactly what 6 figure hell is anon.
Your desires are limitless and your resources are finite. You didnt think your life would change after a 500k capital injection did you? Naive.

>> No.28942053

>>28941945
>>28941994
the thing is I've got a job in the city (WFH right now). I want to be far away enough to have a decent place with space and no pakis or niggers nearby, but also close enough to commute 3x a week when wfh is over and not want to killmyself.

>> No.28942100

>>28940209
What kind of idiot pays cash for a house when interest rates are so low? ngmi

>> No.28942232
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>>28941974
and the worst fucking thing is, the "next" mil after those 3 is literally free money. 2M for the house, 1M for education, kids and car and so on

then everything after that, you can spend on whatever THEN the good life really starts

>> No.28942299

>>28942100
and what kind of house costs fucking 1.5mil? what makes these people think they need a house like that?
make peace with who you are and live like you did before, except with loads of cash and a modest house. how is blowing your load on a mansion going to make you happy?

>> No.28942490

>>28942053
>wants to keep being a wagie
NGMI

>> No.28942498

>>28940285
Ukraine is barely better than India

>> No.28942855

>>28942299
There are a lot of financially illiterate zoomers, boomers and everything in between on here.

>> No.28943806

>>28941350
What would you consider the downsides of Northern Sweden?

>> No.28943915

>>28942021
I wanna live off the grid. So build a house with gym, swimming pool, farm to not ever need to buy any food, have a well or springwater to have my own supply of water etc.
I need at least 3 mil to have this while also not ever worry about unexpected expenses

>> No.28943952

>>28940285
if it werent for the women. ukraine is literally africa tier

>> No.28944103

>>28941334
How the fuck are they going to punish you and take everything because of a 20-year mortgage contract with a fixed 1% interest rate.

Buying a house in cash is the dumbest idea ever. Mortgages are literally free money at these rates. Pay as little cash as possible.

>> No.28944229

>>28940285
khokhol cringe

>> No.28944278

>>28944103
euros pay some scam central bank interest that wrecks everyone during economic downturns

>> No.28944583

>>28942053
Am in the same boat brother. Enough to buy a house. Wfh but London office. What do?

Sips Redbreast 12. Feel comfy I guess s

>> No.28944587

>>28942299
2.5 mill for a shitbox half house where i live

>> No.28944814

>>28943806
Sorry for the late reply, was making lunch.
The good: everyone is completely fluent in English, so moving there won't be a problem. People don't look down on foreigners so you'll fit in more or less, and there aren't a lot of 3rd world immigrants. There is a ton of nearly untouched nature and lots of opportunities for hunting, fishing, drinking moonshine, hiking. It's a bit like the Missouri of Sweden.
The bad: finding a job is hard. The population in the countryside is steadily decreasing. You might be able to land a job that's a few hundred dollars a month less than you'd get in Stockholm. I'd recommend being financially well off before buying a house, not after.

>> No.28944858

>>28942022
yes and no, all this millenialls talking about the "way to 1M" and so on, then to realize, yeah in 1985 1M would be something now it's more like what a normal educated couple could rack up in a decade or so

>> No.28945071

>>28942232
OP I think the good thing about being 6 digits is that growing it to 2-3 mil is relatively easy if you don't gamble it away. Wealth grows exponentially and getting to 200k+ from nothing is according to many anons much harder to getting to mid 7 figures.

>> No.28945643

>>28940970
I just looked it up and you are right, you can get a really nice home in Sweden for under 100k euro, why are they so cheap? I thought that everything in Sweden is really expensive.

>> No.28945782

>>28942299
in west or east cost us, london or sweden or germany

>> No.28945998

>>28945071
yeah somehow, making a 2x from 50k is still 100k and thats quite easy those days

>> No.28946005

>>28945643
Cheap land.

>> No.28946147

>>28945071
most of the anons who say that haven't even reached $200k. they say that to feel better about their lot
6 figures hell is a simple concept if unintuitive. in the 4-5 figures range you can take big risks and know that if they don't pay off, getting back on your feet is just a couple months or years of wagecucking
once you enter 6 figs, you realise that while wealth scales, it doesn't scale linearly. a bad bet with a significant % of your assets would be devastating. the psychological pressure is immense, as you have this significant sum of wealth but you can't leverage it in full
lucky midwits who reach 6 figs can escape 6 figures hell because they're not smart enough to realise the weight of their actions nor the level of risk they're truly exposed to, so they keep gambling. but for every smoothbrain who lucks out, many more will fall into ruin
then there is 7 figures purgatory. the light at the end of the tunnel, between 1 mill and 3 mill, where success is nearby as you're closing in to the point you can park that money in post-tax, safe, traditional investments yielding 3-4% per year and have upper middle class standards of living from that

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>>28946147
Finally an anon who understands my eternal struggle

>> No.28946260

>>28941203
>Italy
>covid wasteland

>> No.28946302

>>28944278
pls explain. They can't change a fixed rate mortgage contract. A contract is a contract. Central banks can print more money and increase inflation, but that only decreases the amount that you have to pay off in value, so that's actually a good thing. Again, you'd be a fool not to profit from the current financial climate and record low interest rates.

>> No.28946415

why do you retards enter any debt at all

bunch of braindead fucks

>> No.28946469

>>28946147
Well I personally climbed from $100 weekly dcaing to 200k networth in 2 years and going from 100k to 200k was easier than anything before it. My mindset hasnt changed noticeably either, my strategies remain the same. In fact I would say I risk even more since I now have a cushion to fall on if everything goes wrong.

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>>28946005
In comparison this was sold for 190k euro (230k dollars) in the Netherlands in some shithole province, this country is completely fucked, this is a cuckbox being sold for 6 times the average annual salary.

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>>28946472
This is what you can get for less than 100k euro in Sweden.

>> No.28946663

>>28946555
Wtf. If the taxes and weather wasnt so bad there Id instantly move there

>> No.28946723
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28946723

>>28946147
dangerously based
the tension is real here at 5m

>> No.28946821

>>28946147
This post is so accurate it hurts. Says just how fucked society is now.

>> No.28946837

>>28946723
Whats your point of exit?

>> No.28946846

>>28946147
>6 figures hell is a simple concept if unintuitive. in the 4-5 figures range you can take big risks and know that if they don't pay off, getting back on your feet is just a couple months or years of wagecucking
omg this was such a good way to describe it

it's like in your 20s, you can fuck around with girls and be nice to some and just ghost some, becaus you have many years and they will be plenty. but in your late 30s, you need to stick to your family and stuff because all the good ones are already taken so you need to protect what you have more

>> No.28946873

>>28946723
mid 7 figure hell

you'll never make it

>> No.28946921

>>28946555
this
burgers are simply cucked

>> No.28946951

>>28946555
holy shit, sweeden lookin comfy af

t. american

>> No.28946954

>>28941350
Go to Belarus instead. It's much further away from total collapse than Ukraine but it's pretty much the same otherwise. Or Georgia, it's a nice place actually.

>> No.28947038

>>28946954
>belarus
>literally the only outright communist dictatorship left in europe

mfs get shot by police just for breathing out there, its worse than any part of the US

>> No.28947155

>>28946555
Trust me bro

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>>28946147
Nailed it. This shit is exhausting.

>> No.28947183

>>28947038
yes yes it's so so very bad please do not come here

>> No.28947261

>>28946147
The first $200k being harder is true though, it's just mathematics. If you have 200k and you invest it and you save $1k/month by wagecucking you'll hit $1M by your 14th year. By contrast, if you did not have the initial $200k, it would take you 10 years more. Ten fucking years. So yes, the first few 100k are the hardest.

>>28946415
Because it's free money. It's easy leverage. People like OP who think about buying a house in cash are dumb because they miss out on the chance to leverage their assets with bank money at cheap fixed interest rates. Btw you can cancel a mortgage by just paying a few months in interest. It's only the smoothbrains who think DEBT === BAD

>> No.28947302

>>28947155
https://www.booli.se/bostad/1479638
775000 kr = 77150 eurobucks

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>>28946147
I am in six figures hell and this true.

It also happens be that you tend to age a little faster and may end up in more responbility driven lifestyles (possibly family, or relationships) and therefore you have to make some safer investments for security. Which tend to yield far lower returns.

Some people can stomach extremely risky 6 figure investments, 100% FOMO, but its kinda dumb.

I'm 22 and at 200k+ now, I however do not believe that 200k will get anywhere close to the millions anytime soon, not unless I took extreme risk.

If you lose that 200k blanket, your basically back to pure wage cucking, being a poor fag and complaining about "paying next months rent" like some of the pathetic scum you see in daily life.

Fuck poor people and fucking being poor.

>> No.28947451

>>28946837
eoy I’ll drop 15-20% of my folio for usd the rest I’ll hold till next market cycle, I do believe the next one will be the “big one” so 4 more years. >>28946873
Think of me when eth hits 3500 before year end anon

>> No.28947462

>>28947261
t. jew

>> No.28947464

Any linkies planning not to sell and just stake? I plan to diversify with staking interest into other assets.

>> No.28947497

>>28945643
Northern Sweden is rough my man

>> No.28947568

>>28947302
that's 104k in euro bucks, can you not count? Nice place, but its in the middle of no where. Find if you work from home ect (Like I did with my own company).

Always take into account the additional living costs from that, but its 10x better than a wage box.

>> No.28947608

>>28947464
This is why we won’t crash nearly as hard this time around, people underestimate how big defi is, even on blockfi people don’t need to sell their btc when they can lend against it and get 5-6% annually, for whales that’s an income and for companies it’s very attractive, interest in the banks at 1% or less. No need to rush to sell and coins essentially “locked up”

>> No.28947611

>>28947261
>Because it's free money. It's easy leverage. People like OP who think about buying a house in cash are dumb because they miss out on the chance to leverage their assets with bank money at cheap fixed interest rates. Btw you can cancel a mortgage by just paying a few months in interest. It's only the smoothbrains who think DEBT === BAD

I know that it's good to take a loan, but that's not what I am talking about. I'm talking about the general narrative that once you get a few 100k, you can get your life so much better. its simply not true

>> No.28947738

>>28947611
My life has been signficantly better since reaching higher numbers. I think this is perspective driven honestly.

It really depends where you live, what your life style is ect. If you basically live as a near NEET, then simple being able to eat what food you like, do what you want, and work on your own productive work without wage cucking is a massive improvement to life.

But if you have left home, in a wage box, paying your good boy taxes, then yes, you need at least 1 million+ to even live anything good.

>> No.28947746

>>28941801
If your idea of making it is living in London. You must unironically kill yourself.

>> No.28947757

>>28947608
Why no one talks about a major financial correction and its influence on crypto as a whole? I think in this case only few people would derisk with DeFi and would sell for cash.

>> No.28947869

>>28947757
That’ll only come if/when the fed takes their foot off the peddle
Too much liquidity I don’t see that changing in the next 12-24 months

>> No.28947883

>>28941801
5 figures > London

Son, you need at least 2-3 million to even live okay there, ideally higher.

Terrible place to live, as somebody who lived their previously temp for work.

>> No.28947904

>>28940209
Any advice for a nibba just starting out with $1000?

>> No.28947917

>>28946723
Good plan, unliek the greedy anons who settle for 1mil and completely cash out. But why no LINK?

>> No.28948004

>>28940209
Van life. It is the only way. I practice what I preach and I'm 100% serious Anon. Live in your car if you have to. Life is comfy out here.

>> No.28948015

>>28947038
>its worse than any part of the US
Of course it's worse it's fucking Belarus. It's also much cheaper
>communist dictatorship
Now you're just being silly. Local politics shouldn't bother you, they're not going to seize your money if that's what you're worried about

>> No.28948030

>>28947917
I sold too early and never bought back out of spite anon

>> No.28948069

>>28947568
>that's 104k in euro bucks, can you not count?
No it's not.
https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=775000&From=SEK&To=EUR
>Nice place, but its in the middle of no where. Find if you work from home ect (Like I did with my own company).
You don't need to find a job if you have already made it, and there is always the option of WFH like you said, in that case living rural is preferable over living in a city in my opinion, especially in Sweden.

>> No.28948124

>>28948030
I see. Well ETH is just as good of a hold I think, godspeed anon.

>> No.28948237

>>28945643
Life is rough there. You have to get along & trust your neighbors. Hiring people to do shit for you that you don't know how to do is expensive. Transporting materials is expensive. Low house and land prices isn't the full story.

>> No.28948342

>>28948237
>Hiring people to do shit for you that you don't know how to do is expensive. Transporting materials is expensive.
same shit as most of europe then kek

>> No.28948517

>>28948342
Not necessarily because you're not just paying their working hours, you're also paying for the 4 hours that they're driving through the snow to reach you - if they can reach you at all

>> No.28948586

>>28944814
Would you say it's possible to WFH or is the internet situation shit up there? I can do my job remotely so work isn't necessarily an issue as long as I have a stable connection...

>> No.28948654

>>28948237
>Hiring people to do shit for you that you don't know how to do is expensive. Transporting materials is expensive.
This sounds more like an issue for people that want to build their own house. What else are you going to need to transport that doesn't fit in a car or trailer.

>> No.28948706

keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
did you see this trash on /biz/
who allowed them to shill this trashcoin?
I’ve already taken part in bot ocean private sale and wait for release
better use bots for trading with great algo
than believe in luck or smart chance

>> No.28948780

>>28946302
we have fixed rate + euribor
>the basic rate of interest used in lending between banks on the European Union interbank market and also used as a reference for setting the interest rate on other loans.

>> No.28948789

>>28948654
I have news for you, anon: houses need maintenance.

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>>28948586
Internet in Sweden is good and not very expensive, but not cheap either. I live in rural south Sweden and this is my current internet speed. Don't know how it compares to where you live but I'll include it for reference. Left is download speed, middle is upload speed, right is internet response time. I know people in rural northern Sweden who work from home.

>> No.28948867

>>28940285
>Ukraine
Portugal. Strive for low but better.

>> No.28948972

>>28941420
Move to the Highlands and do remote work or just buy the house outright and do a menial job

>> No.28949008

>>28948789
>he needs other people to maintain his house for him
I am sorry but you are NGMI, are you going to tell me that you can't maintain your own car either?

>> No.28949058

>>28945643
>why are they so cheap?
Property tax and maintenance

>> No.28949123

>>28948867
At least the weather can be decent in Portugal and the population is nominally Catholic

>> No.28949144

>>28946846
cuck lmao

>> No.28949150

>>28948822
Kek that's better than my connection in the UK, now only if Sweden had lower CGT...

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>>28940209
Feel you anon. I'm looking into doing this though and keeping my cones

https://cointelegraph.com/news/pioneering-aussie-engineer-refinances-home-loan-using-defi-in-a-single-day

Based aussies. Can see why aave is going to do so well.

So, do this, take cash out to buy shitty House at auction, then do it up with crypto gains paying cash for building work, bypassing tax as you don't pay capital gains tax on home improvements whilst you live there. Think imma just do this until 100m house. Will be going from 500k to 2m in rbc soon

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>>28949058
This is part of it but not the whole story. Where I live now (mid-sized city) a house costs roughly 370 000 euro. Employment and education opportunities in northern Sweden are generally worse than south Sweden, and agriculture isn't really a viable source of income, so lots of people either move to Stockholm or northern cities. Since the countryside has a net population loss, there is no competition for housing to drive up costs. If you're ok with living in a small village of mostly older people you can buy a freshly furnished, recently renovated house for less than 10% of a house in a southern city. For reference here is the population decline in one small northern town.

>> No.28949690

>>28949123
Yeah, too bad it's getting hit by the far right bug. We're returning back to a dictatorship very soon.

>> No.28949698

>>28949008
I can tell you don't own many homes.

>> No.28949832

>>28948822
North Sweden is good. But North Norway is also good. In case someone ITT reads this.
t. North Norwegian

>> No.28950339

>>28941801
leave your cesspool of a country retard

>> No.28950697

>>28941801
You want to live in London so you're either retarded or a masochist

>> No.28950713

>>28947568
you're just coping, mutt

>> No.28950887

>>28949698
>I can tell you don't own many homes.
Never said that I did, I am not a landlord.

>> No.28951096

>>28941801
why not the suburbs of manchester instead? x5 cheaper

>> No.28951843

>>28951096
Manchester is not much of an improvement, prices are still extortionate and you still have to live near poor people

>> No.28951935

>>28949832
>>28944814
How hard is it to move to Sweden/Norway and become a citizen if I'm white?

>> No.28952424

>>28951843
>Manchester is not much of an improvement, prices are still extortionate
But its not.
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E904&radius=10.0&sortType=1&propertyTypes=bungalow%2Cdetached%2Csemi-detached%2Cterraced&includeSSTC=false&mustHave=&dontShow=&furnishTypes=&keywords=

>> No.28952463

>>28951935
you probably don't want to do that

>> No.28952528

>>28940285
bro unless they pay me to buy a house there I would never move to ukraine

>> No.28952555
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28952555

I understand Eurocucks who have no options w their overpriced properties and lefty governments, but

Why are the burgers on this site retards who don’t understand how to leverage mortgages w cheap rates to get several rental property for regular monthly passive cash flow + appreciating property values? All you REALLY need to “retire” in the US is ~$500k. Anyone telling you $3m lacks intelligence

>> No.28952581

>>28951935
It's not that difficult if you get a job here or find a spouse or are a EU citizen. Otherwise it can be hard though. I know a South African white guy who had to pay like at least 20k euro in fees to move here even with being engaged to a Swede.

>> No.28952630

>>28952424
You're telling me £135k for a semi detached in Wigan is worth it? Fucking hell mate.

>> No.28952681

>>28952581
Then again, Sweden wouldn't be my first choice. The reason I'm planning on northern Sweden is because I have family there and I'm a bit autistic so I don't mind being lonely. If you have the opportunity to live cheap on a Greek island or on the Bulgarian coast maybe try that if you have the money.

>> No.28952768

>>28952630
Its up to you where you buy. Visit the area and see where you like. If you want to live in the city centre in the most expensive city like London then you've got to pay the price.

Live within your means

>> No.28953039

>>28952528
it's really not that bad. i think you just have a subconscious need for having niggers muslims and faggots around

>> No.28953132

>>28941478
Kill yourself

>> No.28953354

>>28952768
I'm just saying that you'd be hard pressed to find people willing to part with £135k for the pleasure of living in a semi-detached in Wigan, like other anons have said, you can get houses in rural scandinavia for a third of that and you wouldn't have to deal with riffraff

>> No.28953426

>>28946555
Does it come with Somalis already installed or do they come later ?

>> No.28953501

>>28953354
living in a terraced house is the norm for the average person. Especially in the UK where land isn't vast and there is exessive build planning rules and green belt.

>> No.28953714

>>28953501
That's true, but personally I couldn't think of a more depressing prospect than settling down in a place like that, different strokes I guess

>> No.28953766

What is biz problem with houses? You can literally buy with that money 3-5 houses here in the UK outside of London but people here choose to larp that a small house is 20m, you just don't want to stop being a rentcuck

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>> No.28954003

>>28940285
this is a scam to trick you into moving to Ukraine so they can torture you for your keys

>> No.28954129

>>28942299
I also dont get it. Even in Germany in most places you can get very good flat / cheap house for 0.5 mil. If you assume that by waging most people make 2 mil in your whole life, you need 2.5 mil in total to never have to work anymore

>> No.28954550

>>28953426
No the somalis and all the other subhumans all live and congregate in the big cities, like is the case in almost every single other western country.
Are you American?

>> No.28954607

>>28952463
Why? Seems like a good place to live and the cold climate would be perfect for me.
>>28952581
Fortunately I'm from the EU, I'll look into this. Thanks anon!

>> No.28954761

>>28947738
this i can do already, i make around 4k euros after tax as a developer

>> No.28954811

>>28941822
Checked and based

>> No.28955032

>>28942299
> House
In some countries this is not even enough for a decent 3 bedroom apartment

>> No.28955304

>>28948867
shut the fuck up, I don't want the land of my ancestors being invaded by retarded faggots from biz

>>28949690
graças a Deus

>> No.28955349

>>28954607
Living in Sweden really is what you make it. Electronics are expensive and so is alcohol (unless you buy moonshine/smuggled or drive down to Germany) but if you like nature it's great. You can go anywhere you want and camp in the forest. You can get cheap easy fishing licenses all over, many lakes don't even need them. I live right outside a major city but I never have to see another human unless I want to. If you like being left to your own devices and if you like hunting, fishing, hiking, picking mushrooms it's one of the better countries to live in. I'd say countryside=better than UK or German, cities=more cucked but less crime than UK or France.

>> No.28955732

>>28955349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HntYQWvbuyg
This is a bit gay cottage core and femcel but there's some decent info. I plan on living in rural Sweden all my life to save money and be close to family, but if you prefer southern Europe, eastern Europe, Asia or whatever there's nothing stopping you from going there either. As long as you can live within your means.

>> No.28955834

>>28940209
EUROPE IS A CONTINENT OF NIGGER CATTLE WHO LOVE TO TAKE IT UP THE ASS FROM THE AUTHORITARIAN STATE

NEVER BUY PROPERTY HERE
MEDIAN AGE IS 45 IN GERMANY
THESE RETARDED CATTLE BOOMERS WILL ALL DIE SOON
THATS WHY THEY ARE IMPORTING 1 BILLION MENA AND AFRICAN NIGGERS


RATHER BUY A 50k NEW MOBILE HOME

>> No.28955927

>>28944814
Missouri of Sweden? That sounds fucking horrible lol, Missouri sucks

>>28945071
>>28946147
Disagree, once you get to mid six figures you can actually buy or engage in revenue producing assets/start playing yield farms and its actually worthwhile, giving you a cash flow you can throw into shitcoins and still leverage their low liquidity for growth while not having to worry about losing that $3000 and having to wagie it up for weeks.

Once I hit six figure "hell", I was making my wagie paycheck every day on yield farms and then it was just playing the same game from before except I don't have to worry because I'm not really touching principal.

I get what you're saying about risk, but imo in crypto the way to risk profile as your profile scales is taking gains and consolidating them into revenue producing assets like LPs, nodes, DEXT, etc that you are no longer touching and still providing the excellent capital appreciation that crypto is known for but giving you a cash flow that you can hurl into high risk plays, rinse and repeat. You're backstopping your gain. I get the anxiety over having a bigger portfolio, but this way you're still proportionally allocating a sensible risk profile while being similarly exposed to growth.

>> No.28956011

>>28955834
>t.projecting yank

>> No.28956022

>>28943915
>have a well or springwater to have my own supply of water etc.
not in Europe buckoo, it's all (((national parks))) and (((regional parks))) where the springs and rivers are. Can't build or settle there.

>> No.28956034

>>28952555
>what is rent fraud
>what is someone not just paying
>what is corona eviction laws

>> No.28956240

>>28942299
Minimum price for a house in France is 500k, and I'm talking about social housing. A regular house is around 2 to 3 millions.

>> No.28956321

>>28956022
Not accurate for wells at least. I have my own well supplying me with very cheap water, at higher quality than city tap.

>> No.28956455

>>28956022
I don't think that you understand how wells work anon.

>> No.28956669

>>28956321
>well
Not spring or stream. Anybody can dig deep enough for a well.

>> No.28957552

>>28940209
bro I got that shit by working 1 year in savings.

>> No.28958014

>>28940982
>>28942498
>>28943952
>>28952528
>>28954003
MAJOR cope.
I'm not even from the Ukraine, I'm Polish (our housing is not that cheap, around $100k per a 35m2 flat) but I know it's not some fucking jungle. The crime is lower than in your Westoid cucked states.
Though Sweden does seem cheap and nice to own land in.