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I’m directionless rn at 23, where do I start in getting into software engineering or coding or whatever since it seems like that’s the way to make a lot of money young

>> No.28729505

>>28729346
I'm 31 and jobless, also shit at maths. Should I forget this path?

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28729573

Go to /g/.
/thread.

>> No.28729584

>>28729346
since you're asking this type of question it's clear you don't have the self-discipline and drive to teach yourself to code. go back to school and get a bachelors in comp sci.

>> No.28729670

>>28729346
Instead of wasting money on school/certs take that money and invest/trade. You will never make any real amount of money working for the man anon so don't waste to much time on him. Get a job that pays decent and is not to stressful and live like a poor fag for a few years while investing all your money. then you will make it by the time your thirty.

>> No.28729674

Javascript is the best money because you can get a product out quickly for desktop, web and mobile. You want to take gigs on sites like upwork and offer your services cheap. Have some basic knowledge and just take on jobs that are 20% shit you dont know. You will push yourself to learn that 20% and get experience. The next job should be equally complex for you but you will get experience. Continue until you're earning 6 figures

>> No.28729767

>>28729505
Math isn't necessary, most algorithms are already figured out and implemented in libs. Just learn how to quickly use them.

>>28729346
The whole Learn2Code program is actually the way Globalists are trying to lower the wage on coders. In 20 years of coding I've seen starting wages take a hit.

I at least have my own business so my wage is based on how good I am at selling into the market.

Becoming a plumber might be a more valid living.

>> No.28729881

>>28729767
Thoughts on cloud engineering, Infrastructure as code and shit?

>> No.28729929

>>28729346
What have you tried to achieve your goal?
There are colleges that teach programming.
There are coding bootcamps.
There are self-directed classes you can pickup and pay a bit of money for, but are fairly high-quality stuff.
There's millions of youtube courses that teach you stuff..
Just start building a website on some gay hobby you have.
We live in the easiest time to learn programming with almost unlimited free resources.

>> No.28730011
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>>28729346
Being a SWE is fucking cancer now. Have friend who got a bachelor's in CS and landed a job making 80k in so-cal. He quit after 2 years and went to a cheap nursing school. Makes 70/hr as a RN working with patients that are knocked out and just browses 4chan on the night shift. works 4 12 hour shifts a week and makes 105/hr on OT. Gets amazing benefits and healthcare, co-workers are chill apparently.

Have another buddy working in FAGMAN, makes 150k a year but has gray hair at 34 and says there is some faggy internal social network group in the company where you have to post projects you're working on and if you don't meet the quota, you can be put on PIP (means you're fucked). Says all his coworkers are insanely pretentious and truly believe they're smarter than Einstein. It's a very political, toxic work environment. Not saying they're all like that, but most SWE jobs are fucking cancer. It's best to land one with slow, easy, boring work and work your way into management.

>> No.28730285

>>28730011
that's niggerfornia. in general, comp sci is the easiest $/hour of any profession. i'm a wagie accountant trying to switch.

>masters degree
>3 years exp in accounting
>40-50 hours a week year round
>$75k/year in high COL area (central nj)

that same experience in comp sci would get me $100-120k. nursing around here might pay $40/hour.

>> No.28730392

I was starting to feel bad about the future but I'm 2.5 yrs into a compsci degree, aigmi bros?

>> No.28730402

>>28730285
You're not wrong, Nursing is terrible in some areas. If you live in socal, it's a good opportunity. Travel nursing pays a shitton too if you don't have obligations.

>> No.28730653

>>28730011
I think it's a great profession for a few years for young people to learn the ropes in a professional coding environment, make a good salary, and get connections.
But burnout while doing this is a thing. You deal with a pile of office politics BS, get treated like crap, invent shit that contributes 100x or 1000x your salary to the financial health of a company and might never see a dime of reward for that.
The secret is to become your own boss. You can code. That's a fucking superpower and lets you do anything you can imagine.

>> No.28730780

>>28729346
you need to start coding at 12 to break into the industry

>> No.28731097

I'm getting the fuck out of the medical field and into IT. Going for cybersec and self teaching programming now.

>> No.28731295

>>28730653
That's a good mindset to have, a lot of people think the end of the line is working for a some big tech company. Knowing how to program is a skill without a doubt.

>> No.28731439

>>28730392
degree alone will not get you a job. You have to have good projects on your github. Literally a must.

>> No.28731533

>>28729346
codecademy can walk you through the basics. The rest is just practice, trial and error and determination

>> No.28731906

>>28729346
start coding

>> No.28732441

>>28731439
r*ddit tells me no one actually looks at candidate's github profile.

>> No.28733607

>>28729767
>Math isn't necessary, most algorithms are already figured out and implemented in libs. Just learn how to quickly use them.
Do you want to know how i know that you're an incompetent pajeet?

>> No.28734161

>>28730653
How long do you think it's worth working in FAAGMAN companies straight out of college? I've been here for like a year and idk if i can take this much longer

>> No.28734913

>>28730011
nursing is pure fucking bitch work. I'm not jealous of anybody working that job

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>>28729346
dev here for 8 years, unless you can get some cushy number in the US don't bother. in eurocommie land most devs get paid 40k-80k minus a huge chunk of tax and the stress of dealing with autists/ocd heads is not worth it. you're gonna be building complete crap 99% of the time. most software projects will be staffed with complete fucking retards and a core team of maybe 2-7 devs tops depending on how fast management get their act together. don't freelance either because customers will be a complete nightmare.

saas and software apps are usually a complete waste of fucking money now. the actual benefit a platform provides to a company over their old is usually negligible and it comes at a high risk fucking with it at all. the only reason you're there is because they're locked into this cancerous maintenance cycle of being forced to upgrade to the latest js dogshit or meme language.

if you wanna make money do a fucking MBA and start selling software on commission, you don't want to get involved in actually making the sausage because believe me it's a fucking nightmare at this point. the industry has become stupidly complex, cumbersome, and is just on the verge of collapse i'd say with the amount of expert retards trying to pull it in various directions all at once.

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>>28735468
>the industry has become stupidly complex, cumbersome, and is just on the verge of collapse i'd say with the amount of expert retards trying to pull it in various directions all at once.
w-what??

>> No.28735900

freecodecamp & khan academy

hf gl