/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.28701749]

OPEN UP ANON. WE KNOW YOU SOLD YOUR BITCOINS

[Anonymous No.28702087]

>frantically trying to flush his hardware wallet down the drain

Better find a good jewish lawyer

[Anonymous No.28702091]

imagine your only son becoming a tax collector lmao what a shame

[Anonymous No.28702293]

>>28701749
it's not about what you know but what you can prove... can you prove i ever had any bitcoins?

[Anonymous No.28702336]

>>28702091
Fuckin kek. Tho to be fair, getting to carry a gun for the tax man sounds fun

[Anonymous No.28702362]

>>28702091
Shit, I would do it. Gibs taxes or we take battering ram to front door, poors

[Anonymous No.28702513]

>>28702091
you would rather wish it was a tranny at that point.

[Anonymous No.28703000]

>>28702293
Actually yeah. The chain of custody is in a 300gb file going around the internet right now

Theres two kinds of coins. Coins that came clean from a miner, and coins that are dirty. The dirty coins will get frozen out of a route back to fiat in KYC money exchanges who are all registered. Those funds wont result in tax implications because you'll be unable to move them, being frozen indefinitely while an agent goes through the stack of problem issues. They are not going to have to "seize" your crypto. They are not going to seize your assets if they know they've confiscated them at the KYC point. Since you wont have actual realized gains, no tax either. Just nothing. Instead they will flag your file and you'll get a hard look the rest of your life applying at a bank, and moved to the pat-down when crossing a border at a port or border. Your kyc pic will go into the interpol database of crypto shenanegins. Eventually this database will be leaked or hacked and then everyone in the world will be able to look you up and laugh.

[Anonymous No.28703080]

>>28701749
>just pay my taxes
>still get to live in the U.S.
>don't have to flee to some shitty third world island nation
>don't have to look over my shoulder constantly wondering if glowniggers snooping around my accounts

Peace of mind is worth the cost

[Anonymous No.28703156]

>>28703000
>Actually yeah. The chain of custody is in a 300gb file going around the internet right now
there is no proof that ties me personally to any of it.
bitcoin is yours if you can spend it. you can't prove or disprove someone knowing a secret.

[Anonymous No.28703281]

>>28702091
Being sheriff of the court or tax collector as you call it is the most noble of jobs one can get. You will pay her royal majesties taxes or you WILL pay the consequences.

[Anonymous No.28703332]

>>28703000
also imagine spending this much time on bootlicker fanfics...

[Anonymous No.28704151]

>>28703156
This is why criminals will never make it.

>>28703332
Its pretty simple. Give me one scenario where your funds aren't either seized, frozen, or blacklisted if they ever passed through a money exchanger.

[Anonymous No.28704170]

>>28703281
Sorry, I'm not into cuckolding.

[Anonymous No.28705128]

Also keep in mind the IRS is not like other agencies. They can seize anything, cancel any federal benefits, stop you at the border, get other countries to capture you and put you in chains for a ride home, levy penalties that accrue interest and never subside even after bankruptcy. Businesses cooperate because without compliance they get burned to the ground.

There are places where you can conceivably launder your dirty coins for cash, on sites like local bitcoins, but you'll have to travel to the same jurisdictions of the type you ordered your darkweb goods from. You'll be lying all the way there: "Whats the nature of your business in Colombia? Ahh, sightseeing." Click click click whirr, okay, press your thumbprints into the little squares.

Protip: While you're waiting to get knifed in the park to exchange your dirty coins for a stack of 3rd world fiat, pay attention to your surroundings. When they give a signal you'll be grabbed and pushed into a car which will be very close. Try not to fight them, but negotiation will likely not work. Try and puke up your seed words before they pull out your fingernails otherwise it will be difficult to think properly.

[Anonymous No.28705216]

>>28701749
i would back away from that door if i were you.

[Anonymous No.28705236]

>>28704151
how could they blacklist my funds? how could they confiscate them? it's not a physical possession. i can get on an airplane with billions of dollars in my skull. who will stop me?

[Anonymous No.28706583]

>>28705236
basically, companies that sell crypto intelligence have built a machine learning model that analyses all the transactions and they can tell which address sent what. That is the chain of custody. Each address is not a personal ID, but they don't have to be. It is a list of transactions.

When you receive a bitcoin from someone, and that bitcoin was used at some point, in part or in whole, in a dark web purchase, or in contravention of financial embargo, etc., they could use either rationale for putting the receiving address on a blacklist or "scoring" it somehow. As the dirty bitcoin moves from wallet to wallet to exchange, each address gets a bit added to the database. At the fiat gateway, it can be flagged and "frozen".

[Anonymous No.28707081]

>>28705236
I'm actually looking forward to the point in time in the near future when all the dirty crypto and illegal securities are locked out. Clean supply will be low sending prices higher. One of the reasons bigger companies haven't moved into the space until now is the risk of buying dirty crypto on the OTC market. Now with chainalysis, they can be assured they aren't buying a confiscatory liability.

For the "little guy" I'm sorry but you probably aren't going to have any other warning. If you can get out of liquidity pools and back onto an exchange with proper KYC and buy clean bitcoin you'll probably survive the purge. There will be diminishing returns, at some point, for collaring low net worth individuals or samll fish who nevertheless have left a trail of dirty paw prints all over the ledger(s) they interacted with

[Anonymous No.28707440]

>>28702091
>>28702336
IRS agents get hunted down and murdered in Minecraft during the 4th industrial revolution. Let's just say they aren't trained well enough to defend themselves 24/7.

[Anonymous No.28707542]

>>28706583
like i said bootlicker fanfic all of it

[Anonymous No.28707742]

>>28707081
jesus christ dude you better be some 20 something faggot working a banker job in new york, otherwise this is the saddest post i've read on /biz/ in a month

[Anonymous No.28707744]

>>28707542
Denial is a hell of a drug

Good luck in your personal development, use pic related to gauge your progress

[Anonymous No.28707799]

>>28706583
THis would fuck every CEX though. Coinbase almost certainly has bitcoins that were in Silkroad tx's back in 2012, and they are selling them to complete normies buying .13 btc who are unrelated. This would be retarded.
Post proof or gay larp.

[Anonymous No.28707817]

>>28707081
you are talking about "dirty" and "flagged" coins but you would never in a billion years be able to tell which addresses i have control of.

[Anonymous No.28707975]

>>28707744
we will see. but i think you overestimate both the governments concern about crypto which is not even a drop in the giant septic tank called economy, both their ability and willingness to track it and prove shit about it.

[Anonymous No.28707992]

>>28707742
Its only sad if its news to you and you have cognitive dissonance because you thought that the banking system was like an abandoned house with all the doors and windows left unlocked, and crypto was a magic carpet that would fulfill the dream of monetary sovereignty, or some shit.

[Anonymous No.28708123]

>>28703080
>get to live in the USA
Ok boomer, ever wonder why billionaires leave America for vacations?

[Anonymous No.28708309]

Sorry officers, I heard about this really cool coin called Monero. But after converting all my portfolio to Monero, I lost the wallet!

Crypto really isn't for me, I guess I get to claim this loss for tax deductions.

[Anonymous No.28708384]

>>28701749
>don't fear the reaper starts playing

[Anonymous No.28708392]

where did the "clean/dirty bitcoin" fud come from?

[Anonymous No.28708394]

This guys come and visit you in germany if you dont pay taxes. You can rape and kill in Germany and its very likely you get away with just a few years probation but if you "steal" from the state they gonna send profeional murderer to your house and get you locked up for 10 years.

[Anonymous No.28708421]

>>28708123
Because no one will listen when the shit skinned whore you paid 5 USD to stick your 2 inch cock in screams about rape.

Also the average American woman is disgusting.

[Anonymous No.28708438]

>>28701749
>I'm glad you guys are here about the btc, I thought it was about drugs or cp

[Anonymous No.28708440]

>>28707799
Absolutely retarded insight here. Internally the CEXs have separated their clean and dirty crypto. There is a file folder of frozen accounts that will never move any of those coins. If you think coinbase, which is about to become a public company, is going to just overlook such liabilities, you're insane.

>>28707817
The game is not who holds the dirty coins (which is still possible in many ways), its halting their conversion back into fiat.

Since the monitoring of the blockchains is all automated, machine learning, there is no big barrier to figuring all this shit out. Computation never sleeps and deep learning algos will tease out connections a human being could never in 1000 years. Chainalysis and other firms simply add gigantic databases into a megadatabase and mine the shit out of for all the info they need.

[Anonymous No.28708474]

>>28706583
you know something like 50% of the US's fiat money supply has traces of cocaine on it?

[Anonymous No.28708597]

>>28706583
>the government is omnipresent and will get you no matter what
meanwhile it takes them 3 weeks and a team of 1500 police to find a random German innawoods who robbed some cops

[Anonymous No.28708656]

>>28708440
>Computation never sleeps
yeah, yeah
mixer go brrrrrr

[Anonymous No.28708660]

>>28708392
Its not fud if you have investments in clean bitcoin. By condemning some % of circulating supply and freezing it at fiat gateways, it just means a supply constraint which should benefit the price.

It is just another aspect of crypto becoming mainstream, something that institutions can use without incurring legal and regulatory liability

[Anonymous No.28708734]

is there anything faggier than paying taxes? Remember that "nothing more cucked than raising a daughter" meme? Paying taxes is like raising all those daughters at the same time. Holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.28708763]

>>28708597
that guy didn't leave a tractable chain of custody on an immutable digital ledger though, or did he, and that is your point?

>inb4 germoney

[Anonymous No.28708773]

>>28708394

[Anonymous No.28708837]

>>28701749

[Anonymous No.28708903]

>>28701749
Jokes on you. I paid my taxes

[Anonymous No.28709030]

>>28708660
>if
fud. i've seen this retarded shit bandied about before. when the tether fud gets stale, the environmental fud is loaded, when that doesn't stick, here comes the "clean/dirty bitcoin" fud.
tiresome.

[Anonymous No.28709146]

The fun thing about dirty/clean bitcoin is that the IRS discriminates by address, not UTXO. So it's conceivable you can do a sort of legal dust attack where you send darknet associated coins to a millionaire address and it get's seized as possessing criminal property.

[Anonymous No.28709338]

>>28702087

> not sticking thumb drives up your ass

Ngmi

[Anonymous No.28709462]

What’s fucking retarded to me is since they tax every transaction, what will fucking happen to someone who swing trades their way to 500k plus in profit if they never cash out? Are they gonna have to cash out their gains, adding more tax on top of that? Is the system really that rigged against us?

[Anonymous No.28709485]

>>28701749
Actually I'm still rolling over losses for years to come on a bad Monero trade.
You owe me money.

[Anonymous No.28709667]

>>28708656
Sending money to a mixer is de facto money laundering.

When the IRS sends notice to the money exchanger to freeze funds they don't have to give a reason. There doesn't have to be a law. They just see okay, you had clean coins, then you sent them to a mixer. This is why the news last month was about establishing KYC for private wallets. All they have to do is lean on the major CEXs and fiat gateways. They will comply. You can bitch about it all you want but thats where it is going.

Maybe the coins go through the mixer, and end up in a dark web wallet and you get your drugs in the mail, no way to trace. Nothing impossible about it, happens all the time. What they are ultimately concerned with is, money used to by enriched uranium, chemical weapons, to prop up a dictatorship, money circumventing embargoes. This is where large amounts of dirty coins circulate. There are still large parts of the world where regulations are ambiguous and no distinction is made between the dirty/clean and there is no KYC/AML. You can buy guns, drugs, and human beings. The job of regulatory bodies is to build a wall between these areas and prevent leakage.

>>28709030
Its not fud. It is bullish for the price of bitcoin. It is not bullish for a lot of other things but I don't care about those things and neither does a lot of other people and I'm sorry it sucks for you.

[Anonymous No.28709724]

>>28709462
yes. what's funny is imagining how these normies are going to react that have cashed out to pay for more shit that keeps them poor in the first place then realizing they have no money to pay what the owe.

[Anonymous No.28709728]

You'll never catch me alive, copper!

[Anonymous No.28709808]

>>28709462
>Are they gonna have to cash out their gains, adding more tax on top of that? Is the system really that rigged against us?

US laws is basically against the middle class. Poor's don't pay taxes & the rich go through loopholes

[Anonymous No.28709917]

>>28708394
>"Mommy! They're taking pictures!"

[Anonymous No.28709961]

>>28709462
Its not rigged. Capital gains taxes are comparable, or even favorable to taxes on income. Note that, this may change in the future.

Your scenario is basically a series of taxable events. You need to calculate a cost basis for your purchases and the capital gain or loss for each, and then you only pay tax on the net gain.

If you made profits, but didn't set aside money, and instead reinvested that money with those gains, and made more insane gains, etc., you might want to set aside your estimated tax liability now.

And remember, this shit resets every calendar year. So if you have money in the market (risking its loss) and you owe tax on gains from gains earned up to Jan 31st 2020, you could lose those if your shitcoins crash, but still have a bill from prior calendar year.

[Anonymous No.28710040]

>>28709724
But that’s the thing, the only way we can really make money in crypto now is through swing trading, and assuming you make it doing that, guess what? You have to pay tax on 37% of what you made whether or not you cashed out. We can’t afford that shit. Meanwhile all the industry players say whatever and either register all that shit overseas or have such deep pockets that doesn’t matter to them. The way the IRS has this set up is almost guaranteeing jail time for us all.

[Anonymous No.28710152]

>>28709667
jesus fucking christ dude

[Anonymous No.28710225]

>>28703000
Or you could just use Monero

[Anonymous No.28710370]

>>28709961
But most of us on this board aren’t living off our “income” from crypto. And even if I did set money aside(from crypto, few of us have well paying jobs on the outside) I’m still gonna have to pay tax on that as well. Do you see what you’re saying here? Stop pissing on my leg and telling me it’s raining.

[Anonymous No.28710716]

>>28710040
i bought ethereum on robinhood for ease in 19 and now im going to be taxed on it when all i want to do is move it to coinbase since i have to sell the shit and rebuy

[Anonymous No.28710892]

>>28710716
That’s short term. Long term tax rates are much better, so if it’s been a year since you bought depending on your income you might not have to pay shit, but you still have to declare it next year.

[Anonymous No.28710913]

>>28710716
Technically you did not own or trade any crypto, RH did.
You can put it in a wallet, you can't transfer it, because they are leasing their coins to you.

[Anonymous No.28710933]

It's unfortunate, but required that we onboard scientology to the crypto space. Their army of lawsuits will save us.

[Anonymous No.28711061]

>>28710370
Oh I know how confusing it is because I went through it after 2017

Didn't know shit about financial accounting
Didn't know shit about taxable transactions
Couldn't give a definition of cost basis to save my life

20,000+ transactions
15 exchanges
50 wallets

I did it all myself, used the tax services, it took 3 weeks to compile a viable cost basis for all of it. Once you learn the skills, its not a problem, but also, you become a better trader and investor. You realize you are an over-trading retard. You learn to recognize rug pulls, the high risk/low rewards. You end up accumulating bitcoin, never causing a taxable event by selling, you lock in the long term capital gains rate like all the other rich people, you don't expose yourself to assets with regulatory risk.

You guys can make it too, but there is no other way to say it, most won't. Most will take the easy way out and end up in a ditch, you'll file incomplete returns, setting yourselves up for scrutiny in the future. For myself, I sleep well at night, I pay my taxes, and they are correct and complete. I know my cost basis, I know my gains and losses. I know my tax liability. I know what the global economy and the regulatory system is up to.

Enlightening you guys is just a kind of mental masturbation for me, so take it for what its worth.

[Anonymous No.28711230]

>>28706583
>you can financially ruin millions of people by sending single satoshis to random wallet addresses

lol yeah anon nice larp retard

[Anonymous No.28711399]

>>28701749
I go to jury duty and will nullify any firearm or tax prosecution and you all should too.

[Anonymous No.28711497]

>>28711061
Thank God I had like 15 l-20 transactions last year, which made filing a breeze this year. Here’s what annoys me though. I’m seeing people swing trade and margin their way to success, but since I’m American I gotta be a good little faggot and play by the rules. I’m missing all these nice little bumps that would help me accumulate the shit I really want, and since I don’t have the money or connections of the capital class I’m fucked. I see what you’re saying, and it’s appreciated. I’m also playing by rules lest the IRS comes for me until I can afford to leave the US and move to Portugal. Until then I’ll remain a salty bastard about this.

[Anonymous No.28711594]

>>28710913
>Technically you did not own or trade any crypto, RH did.
>You can put it in a wallet, you can't transfer it, because they are leasing their coins to you.

This is a very creative definition of custody that does not work. You do not get to define the terms of economic exchange.

The concept relies on "effective control". For example, you received UNI in an airdrop. The date which it appeared in a wallet you effectively control is the point at which it is income, and taxable. So if you received your airdrop of 400 at $20, you have a capital gain of $8000, even if you did not then sell the UNI. It could work out badly, actually. Imagine getting the UNI airdrop, then the next day, the price of UNI drops 95% and even if you wanted to cash it out, all you could get is $400. You still owe on a gain of $8000 with zero cost basis. If that was your only income source for the year, putting you in the poorest tax bracket you might only be liable for the 10% tax bracket, which would still be $800.

And so, if you control a user account on RH, you log in and buy and sell, those are the reportable transactions that carry cost basis that you have to report.

[Anonymous No.28711621]

>>28701749
"Sir, I swear I put all the profits into all in MCDC!"
"Shit Frank, that is like putting all his guns on a fishing boat during a hurricane."

[Anonymous No.28711684]

>>28702091
You can't beat them, join them.

[Anonymous No.28711770]

>>28703000
Doesn't matter. Pull a Chad move like the German dude.
>https://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-miner-stash-worth-68-million-seized-wont-give-up-password-2021-2
They can't touch it unless they can unlock it. They can't unlock it unless you're an idiot that leaves all your unlock information laying around.

[Anonymous No.28711771]

>>28711594
What if the tokens didn’t appear in my wallet until this year and I sold them around the price I got them?

[Anonymous No.28711817]

>>28711594
No, you literally did not have nay control over crypto.
Show me how you take it from RH and put it in a wallet.

[Anonymous No.28711863]

>>28711497
Like most noob traders I lost tons of gains, realizing also that I had literally paid tens of 1000s in fees alone to exchanges and ungodly amounts in transfer fees was truly eye opening.

I am a better investor and trader for having learned proper financial accounting. I could use that confidence to go back into swing trading any time I want, but then there is the literal time spent issue. Time is money. Trading is a kind of lifestyle that I realized I don't want to have take over my life. When there is no clock to punch out and you are sweating over every trade, how much money is that worth, in time alone?

[Anonymous No.28711966]

>>28711594
The airdrop was a gift and does not need reporting
t. guy on chair

[Anonymous No.28712070]

>>28711594
why would it count as the day you received it and not when you sold it and actually realized the gains?

[Anonymous No.28712130]

>>28711771
Then the gain is income and the cost basis is zero, as it cost you nothing.

If you immediately flipped it, it will be a short term gain of (value of exchange - zero).

[Anonymous No.28712142]

>>28711966
Nah gifts above a certain price have to be reported, but I couldn’t tell you how much off the top of my head.

>>28711863
I see what you’re saying but I actually enjoy fucking around with that shit, especially since I never all in on anything and stake my holdings in 3 coins at any given time.

[Anonymous No.28712182]

>>28709808
This. The wealthy elite (aka actual billionaires) pay nothing thanks to carried interest deductions. Taxes exist to keep away competition from normalfags (aka, non elites). Income tax and capital gains tax are literally designed to prevent you from ever becoming wealthy.

[Anonymous No.28712221]

>>28712130
So if I got them in my wallet when they were $8k and I sold them around $7.5k is that a loss?

[Anonymous No.28712234]

>>28711817
Understand that if you had $100 on RH, and bought $100 of bitcoin, there is no gain here. If you sold it for $200 there was a gain of $100. It has nothing to do with whether you could send it from one place to another. You were the controller of the account.

[Anonymous No.28712399]

>>28711770
>unless you're an idiot that leaves all your unlock information laying around.
Even better if you leave lots of red herrings around the house.

[Anonymous No.28712439]

>>28708384

Based taste but have you ever noticed the guitar solo sounds like the original Zelda music? Or rather Zelda sounds like the guitar solo?

[Anonymous No.28712507]

>>28712142
Guys this is not how it works. Gift receivers aren't taxed- it is the Gift giver who is taxed and must report.

Airdrops are income, in this case, it is more clear-cut because you had to "claim" it. If there was such a loophole every exchange of money would be redefined as a "gift".

[Anonymous No.28712530]

>>28708394
Would rape

[Anonymous No.28712533]

>>28712234
It's a capital gain, but it's you didn't actually buy or sell any crypto.
It'd be like having to claim such since Tesla has crypto stakes and you profited from them.

[Anonymous No.28712857]

>>28708440
>its halting their conversion back into fiat
not possible

[Anonymous No.28712890]

>>28712221
1.Airdrop to you. Cost basis zero. Capital gain 8000.

2.You sell them for USDT 7,500. Cost basis was 8000. Capital loss was 500.

running total for this calendar year is net taxable (total) gain of: $7500.

Lowest taxable bracket (determined by total income over the year) is an minimum 10%, so it means you should have set aside $750 for taxes so far.

But, if you are going to report a lot of income, and therefore be in a higher tax bracket you have to think about reserving up to 40% of your total capital gains for short-term gains.

[Anonymous No.28712959]

>>28708763
The government doesn’t have the raw resources to comb the internet and blockchains thoroughly. The best they can do is shitty machine learning bots that look for keywords.

[Anonymous No.28713123]

>>28712533
Even if you didn't sell the crypto you still need to report the exchange of USD to BTC, because eventually (presumably) you'll exchange the BTC in the future, and need the cost basis to subtract from the sale price to determine the net gain on that, and so on.

[Anonymous No.28713194]

>>28704151
* Swaps to monero behind you *
Heh, nothing personal fed-nigger.

[Anonymous No.28713387]

>>28708440
here is the thing that bootlicker cunts don't get tho: figuring it out == guessing. not admissible in court in a state of law does not stand up to plausible deniability.

[Anonymous No.28713411]

>>28713123
You always held USD the entire time if you use a broker like the way RH does it.

[Anonymous No.28713437]

>>28712857
I hate to break it to you but when you have your money in a bank or regulated money exchange, they absolutely and routinely freeze accounts, whenever there is so much as a whiff of something even less serious than money laundering.

People come on biz all the time bitching about some exchange not letting them withdraw or access their funds and every time its because they thought everything they were doing on the dark web was invisible, or some theory of privacy once their funds left the exchange. They blame the exchange which is retarded.

Sometimes people are legitimately wrongly implicated. Either way you do not want to end up in the same pool with these people because the queue for customer service is a thousands deep, all a bunch of BigBrains who thought, ehh, I'll just send my coins to a mixer! And then right back! No one will know!

[Anonymous No.28713535]

>>28712959
>The government doesn’t have the raw resources to comb the internet and blockchains thoroughly.

This is utterly naive. Even without the power and resources of the federal government, this capability is in the hands of many corporations at the present moment.

[Anonymous No.28713604]

>>28713437
since bitcoin is not a security you are not forced to trade it on a regulated market. this is the other thing bootlicker cunts don't get.

you can't censor bitcoin. you can't really track bitcoin and you definitely can't stop it.

have fun brainlet!

[Anonymous No.28713698]

>>28713411
Maybe you have some insight there. Personally I never traded crypto on RH. But it sounds suspiciously like bullshit and makes no sense.

For example, GBTC is run by a trust which holds bitcoin for depositors. Even then you are holding a security which is subject to reporting and capital gains tax.

So what is the technical makeup of RH's system and how is it you can buy or control crypto on the platform without having to report it?

[Anonymous No.28713738]

>>28713535
any high-school geek could. it's just worthless speculation.

[Anonymous No.28713826]

>>28710913
I had no job when I bought them, they are long term gains now, but i do have a job now and it will push me into a higher tax bracket. i'm pissed, all i want to do is transfer them and stake them.

[Anonymous No.28714016]

>>28712959
Wrong. The IRS as hired ChainAnalysis to assist with crypto tax collections. It's public info.
https://thedailychain.com/irs-signs-contract-with-blockchain-analysis-and-tax-firm/

[Anonymous No.28714025]

>>28713604
Again, I don't know how naive you have to be to believe that companies like Chainalysis are scams. I've already outlined the features of how bitcoin gets on ramped into the regulated economy. There is a black market, true. But just like all other aspects of black markets, the regulated market is constructed to wall out the dirty money. The higher you go on the economic food chain, the more regulated it becomes.

But, there is still freedom in places like Tanzania. Go buy all the whores and crack you want there. Just don't expect to take your gains to a first world country and put it back into the system.

[Anonymous No.28714131]

Honestly, Did any one of you who holds crypto on RH read the fine print? Is there really any proof of this claim, "they are leasing their coins to you"?

[Anonymous No.28714184]

>>28711399
I have never been called for jury duty across the 3 states I've lived in over the course of 20 years yet some people apparently get called every couple years, I just don't get it

[Anonymous No.28714190]

>>28709917
this goes in the "extremely nervous" baklava folder.

[Anonymous No.28714314]

>>28714025
they are a scam in the sense that they are worthless. nothing you get to with baseless speculation and "machine-learning" will be admissible in court.

[Anonymous No.28714363]

>>28703000
I was going to check you but then I read your cucked message. What a faggot.

[Anonymous No.28714411]

>>28714025
>But, there is still freedom in places like Tanzania.
tone vays just fled there i will ask him what's it like. well he will probably tell everyone without asking.

[Anonymous No.28714534]

>>28714025
You sound like a glowing faggot who can't leave his house because he knows everyone wants to murder his ass. Your life must be miserable or it will be soon enough.

[Anonymous No.28714926]

>>28702091
I have a friend who works for the CRA. I make fun of him all the time. Complains about how little federal employees make I tell him it’s still too much and I’m not paying taxes on my Bitcoin.