Identifying the top for this run

[Poorfag No.28428895]

Any anons want to share their strategy on identifying the top of a bull run for cashing out and waiting out the crash? Currently I'm watching the Pi cycle top indicator. When the 111 DMA crosses the 350DMA it has historically signified the top within a few days accuracy. Is this the best bet for deciding whether the run has topped out?

[Anonymous No.28429325]

>>28428895
I genuinely believe the top is here before the end of feb.

[Anonymous No.28429798]

I choose to believe this is the Golden one, 1001 days of Summer and drought and wildfire, we will pray for dips before long

[Poorfag No.28429909]

>>28429325
I'm of the same mind, but indicators are giving mixed messages. Relative unrealised profits puts us as entering into the greed area synonymous with the top, but things like Rhodl ratio show we're a decent way off. Honestly this shit is stressing me the fuck out. I was here since mid 2017 and went through that bear market. I know now if I this does crash and I time it well I could easily 3-6x my holdings in one long term trade. Fucking stressing me out

[Anonymous No.28429937]

>>28428895
Shut the fuck up and ride it out. Holy shit I’m tired you whiny faggits wanting to know when the top is.
>wheeeen is the toooop
>wheeeeen is the toooop
>omg I’m so scared I’m a pansy little baby bitch who can’t decide for himself when to take profit
Greedy fucks like you deserve to be poor. Nigger.

[Anonymous No.28430080]

>>28428895
>20 trillion dollar stimulus bill including $15/hr and stimmy checks
>rampant consoomerism when covid lockdowns end
>low interest rates
It won't even be this year dude. Maybe it crashes back to 50k in 2022.

[Poorfag No.28430120]

>>28429798
I'm trying to not fall for the "this time it'll be different" meme. But really so much has changed in the landscape of crypto with hardcore institutional investors entering the game I'm honestly not sure if we'll see such a crash or pullback this time of if at all. Which means selling the "top" is an awful strategy

[Anonymous No.28430167]

>>28428895
there is no top
holding 4 years is much safer than selling too soon, you could be priced out forever if it mega pumps after you sell

[Anonymous No.28430191]

My signal is when the least financially responsible / savvy people in society start talking about it consistently, we've reached the top.

You can decide yourself who that pertains to.

[Anonymous No.28430199]

>>28428895
>Currently I'm watching the Pi cycle top indicator
Ok. Well you've got it then.
digitalik.net/btc/sma1458
Check this shit whiteboy

[Anonymous No.28430222]

>>28430080
haha sure buddy, when this corona crisi fully hits, people will sure not sell crypto
>DELUDED

[Poorfag No.28430264]

>>28429937
Been here since 2017. Not poor, just want to make even more so I can buy the whole country your mud hut dwelling family lives in.

[Anonymous No.28430313]

Why don't you just go 10% a week into stables for 6 weeks and then wait.

[Anonymous No.28430345]

>>28430120
I've read the exact same fucking post in 2018. Typical "this time it's REALLY different" shit.

[Anonymous No.28430381]

>>28429325
Why?

[Anonymous No.28430400]

I think it will be truly obscene. Truly, absolutely obscene. I think the crash will come mid-May. Why? Astrology.

[Anonymous No.28430424]

>>28430222
>covid crisis is going to be ramped up further
Retard alert

[Anonymous No.28430480]

>>28428895
you will never time tops and bottoms. always DCA

[Anonymous No.28430490]

>>28428895
Pi cycle is great. I like to look at charts like pic related to see whether we are ahead or behind the previous cycles. Currently, it looks like our performance is going to end somewhere between the 2013 and 2017 cycles.

I'm assuming a $300,000 top. But I'll be conservative and sell around $200,000.

[Anonymous No.28431059]

>>28429937
Shut the fuck up, talking about the right exit is a constructive topic and way more important than the scamcoin shill threads.

[Poorfag No.28431091]

>>28430345
Yeah I remember them too but they were always spewing bullshit about mysterious "institutional" investors which didnt exist. Now we have publicly traded companies and hedgefunds putting it on their books. Funnily enough these places are full of analysts and financial experts far better at this than us, so I'm inclined to think that if they're adding it to their treasuries then it actually is them seeing something we only speculate on. Why would a bunch of financial experts sign off on buying a few billion in crypto if every retard on 4chan can see a crash coming. Only explanation is there is a real possibility there isn't one, and if it is it wont be near as devastating as we're used to.

[Anonymous No.28431200]

>>28428895
yeah it's a 1-2 weeks after those $1400 checks go out

[Anonymous No.28431426]

>>28430490
got a link?

[Anonymous No.28431456]

Rare high quality thread. I want to sell, but I wont. Why? TSLA just bought in, last month Michael saylor held a conference that 6000 executives attended. He gave then his playbook on how to convert corporate cash holdings to bitcoin. The regulatory guidelines, how to actually buy it, custody, etc. Many more companies will announce this cash conversion on their balance sheets the next several months and that is unironically the catalyst to push bitcoin over 6 figures. This is actually it, feels kind of bittersweet as it is in a way more fun scheming and brooding than actually seeing your precise hypothesis for the past several years come true

[Anonymous No.28431657]

So once you're convinced that Alt-Season is over and the Bear Market has begun, what do you guys do to keep as much of your gains as possible?
Do you cash out all the way? Keep everything in BTC/ETH? Move to stable coins like USDT?
.t newfag

[Anonymous No.28431784]

>>28431091
>financial experts
The real redpill is the people who get put on a payroll in finance come here for advice because we outperform them
>every retard on 4chan can see a crash coming
This shithole is filled with anons who do nothing but gaslight you into thinking it's over
Most of us are actually perma-bulls

[Anonymous No.28431935]

>>28431657
Alt season will last until the crash. Absolute FOMO at all levels, until the music stops. Never Tether, use other stablecoins like USDC. But beware of capital gains.

[Anonymous No.28431962]

>>28431657
you go into stablecoins and yield farm, it's that simple

[Anonymous No.28431986]

>>28431426
https://twitter.com/HalvingTracker/

This account updates the graph regularly

[Anonymous No.28432192]

The "crash" will happen when inflation start to kick very hard. Interest rates will gonna moon and people will take out money from mememoney and put it in bonds.

So the "beggining of the end" will be when inflations starts to get higher than predictions.

[Poorfag No.28432591]

>>28431784
True, a little, in parts. But I'm not arrogant or stupid enough to think I'm anywhere near the intellect in this area of some goldman sachs analyst with 3 decades of analysing financial markets under his belt. Multiply that by the hundreds working at these institutions and it's quite frankly a ludicrous statement.
We've outperformed them because we're the smart money that got in early. Institutions didn't invest because the risk was utterly enormous. Particularly treasuries, their job is to safeguard a companies capital and find the safest place to put it (often depreciative). It's not a treasuries job to make money, but ensure it stays there. No treasury in their right mind would EVER sign off on something so volatile. So yeah, we beat them in the early days as risk kept the sharks out the water. But down the line with legislation not BTFO'ing crypto yet, and the volatility dropping, its becoming a safer bet for companies.

[Anonymous No.28432949]

>>28432192
>when usd begins to lose value people will move to usd denominated assets
big brain time

[Poorfag No.28433008]

>>28431456
Yeah this is what's in the back of my head every time I think about profit taking. I genuinely do hope it crashes. Only in retrospect do I see how much of an opportunity that bear market was. If I'd have been better informed back then and sold, I'd be at least 10x my current holdings. Bittersweet is the right word though, the stress of a crash is ungodly, but knowing it's just a fire-sale for future profits makes it worth it. Potentially not having that last shot at printing money sucks.

[Anonymous No.28433080]

>>28430345
But it is...

[Anonymous No.28433148]

>>28431962
I feel yields might drop if the market crashes no?

[Anonymous No.28433165]

>>28429937
This is one of the most useful thread on the catalog right now and you're the nigger

[Anonymous No.28433217]

>>28433148
Ofc. You might not be able to convert even, becase there will be no liq.

[Anonymous No.28433250]

>>28430191
>My signal is when the least financially responsible / savvy people in society start talking about it consistently

we're way past that point

[Anonymous No.28433389]

I follow an on-chain data site that has given me good insight. They say early August is when we should start paying attention to other indicators as an exit might be close. I personally won't worry until then.

[Anonymous No.28433632]

>>28431935
>Never Tether, use other stablecoins like USDC
Appreciate the tip, but what's wrong with Tether? (just so I know for future reference).

>>28431962
>you go into stablecoins and yield farm, it's that simple
Do you have a favorite stablecoin you like to use for this?

[Anonymous No.28433647]

>>28433250
This is what makes me worry about folks who say end of Feb being right (yet never give a legit fucking reason why). When rappers ask about how to make their own coin and Elon is wanking off doge... that really seems like it's time to go.

[Anonymous No.28433789]

when current price is ~3-5x the 200MA price

[Anonymous No.28433895]

>>28430222
Nah, people have become desensitized to Coronabullshit due to the MSM's daily fear-mongering without evidence.

[Anonymous No.28434374]

>>28433647
yeah as much as i wish there'd be an obvious top, i don't think it's gonna be. the only thing i am sure of is that whenever the top is reached, the crash will be at least 70-80%, just like every time in the past. this means that even if the top will be 100k, we'll still drop lower than where we are right now eventually.

i'm very close to selling. i've been holding since $2800 in 2017 (although i sold half at like $15k)

[Anonymous No.28434419]

My guts say yes the charts say no
Which do I believe

[Anonymous No.28434610]

>>28432192
This makes no sense.
>>28433632
I wouldn't use tether. Its an unregulated security and they can't guarantee your USD

[Anonymous No.28434931]

>>28431091
Or they are planning on holding 5 or 10 or 20 year timeframes and this years top and crash isnt something they are as concerned about as you are.

[Anonymous No.28435118]

>>28431200
This.. been analyzing trends and correlating dips and peaks with happenings for a while.

The entire bubble is NEETbucks and stimulus checks from this last year if you don’t pull a week after the next round of checks, you deserve to lose it all.

[Anonymous No.28435150]

>>28434419
the top isnt in. btc just made a new high yesterday. you have at least a few months before you should consider selling

[Anonymous No.28435322]

>>28435150
All the normies pumping trash and link stalling makes me very nervous

[Anonymous No.28435424]

>>28434374
The new low after the crash will be at least double the previous cycles ath. So new low roughly 40k and since the crash is always 80% atleast then that would mean at minimum a 200k top for this cycle. Stop worrying until then.

[Anonymous No.28435530]

>>28435424
you're going to get shafted so hard

[Anonymous No.28435568]

>>28428895
MVRV-Z score

[Anonymous No.28435701]

>>28428895
you got to look at the macro side of thing

[Anonymous No.28435834]

>>28428895
The top will not come from bitcoin this time. Corona stock crash will pull crypto down with it.

[Anonymous No.28436130]

>>28435834
There won't be a stock crash. Feds brrrring

[Anonymous No.28436570]

Just sold another batch of BTC. Enjoy the future gains that I'll be missing out on frens.

[Anonymous No.28436677]

>>28436570
thank you anon. that's what's gonna happen if i sell to

[Poorfag No.28437135]

>>28434931
Good point, though aren't a lot of these companies putting them as hedges for their treasuries? Treasuries are supposed to be dynamic enough to manage changes in cash flow and respond to unseen costs. If they occur during a crash and they need to cash-in, they'll have their hand forced to lose money to cover expenses. So, putting a size-able chunk in bitcoin for a long term hold doesn't seem to align with what most treasuries are for right? Unless they're either a healthy company which is well managed so doesn't see any need for the money their tucking away for a long, long time, so a crash means nothing. Or they're not anticipating much of a crash. Either way it's bullish for the long term for crypto - these institutions clearly aren't expecting it to stay down even if there is a crash.

[Anonymous No.28437330]

>>28428895
Rhodl
S2f

Your welcome

[Anonymous No.28437580]

>>28431091
>funnily enough these places are full of analysts and financial experts far better at this than us

You are wrong. They mostly aren't.

[Anonymous No.28437946]

Why risk swinging when you can just buy more when it dips? Your hedge is being young, who cares if it takes a few more years.

[Anonymous No.28438155]

>>28431091
i've come across thousands of articles written by analysts and financial experts that are proven incorrect by subsequent events. computers and programs do all the analysis of statistical information you need, you just need to DYOR to know if a company's stock value represents it's actual value or it's suspected value

[Anonymous No.28438156]

>>28430167
It’s just a question of when it will be 100k so basically anything less than that is free money. With risk increasing as you approach 100k

[Anonymous No.28438210]

Piece of anecdotal evidence: normies in my life are starting to take the hyperinflation-pill.
Normally it's a slow burn but the last year has been a real eye opener.

[Anonymous No.28438302]

>>28429798
Already praying I want to buy more but not at these prices.

[Anonymous No.28438418]

>>28438210
Anyone with two brain cells knows the dollar is fucked

[Anonymous No.28438460]

Idiots.
Top is in.
Cash is king.

Deflation will hit after the Nasdaq crash. Screenshot this, really.

55#^ELa

[Anonymous No.28438561]

>>28438418
The dollar is fine, stocks are not.
Dollar is going up because no one has the money once overleveraged markets crash.

[Anonymous No.28438748]

>>28428895
I'm not going to pretend to know. But the last end-of-cycle crashes have all been in December. I'll probably start laddering out then.

The real question is when to exit alts. At the end of the last cycle, if you cashed out your alts in December alongside BTC, you would've missed a ton of gains from the giant spikes in early January before the huge crash. But that's n=1 and we don't know if that will happen again.

[Anonymous No.28438799]

I don’t think we’re near the top dude Things are totally different this time. My mom and sisters are asking me about crypto which is a very good sign!! More money coming in!!

[Anonymous No.28438880]

>>28430490
>sell around $200,000.
This.

ETH will be, at least 7k. We will hit it around september - october.

[Anonymous No.28439281]

>>28438748
Yeah I got saved by my alts. NEO was close to ATH as late as February when it was clear crypto was crashing

[Anonymous No.28439336]

>>28429937

[Anonymous No.28439427]

so much cope in this thread lmao. top is very close, bubble bursts by the end of march, probably mid march

[Anonymous No.28439542]

>>28428895

>everyone saying to stop being a pussy and ride it out
ok yea but I am gonna go ahead and sell 1 eth to make back my cost basis for the other 9 i'm still holding
i'm..i'm sure I won't hate myself for that a few months from now, it's... it's just 1 eth, right

[Anonymous No.28439561]

Is it even worth buying btc with only $3000?

[Anonymous No.28439576]

>>28435322
I’m there with you dude. I can’t sleep at night. I don’t even have that much money but I don’t want to lose it.

[Anonymous No.28439630]

>>28428895
If I had more money I'd pull out now but I am poor so it doesn't make much difference. I think will try to top again at 50k and probably drop to 32kish and crab. go from there

[Anonymous No.28439629]

>>28439427
March isn't going to be the end of the cycle. It's possible we'll see a sizeable correction, as corrections up to 40% or so can happen frequently even during a bull run, but it won't be the end. Bull markets have never ended that soon post-halving, that soon after breaking the previous cycle's ATH, or only doing a 2-3x from the previous ATH.

[Anonymous No.28439802]

>>28429909
i feel you, brother. I still have ptsd from 2018. all the normie indicators like celeb shilling, black people buying, and poorfag retards gloating about tripling their pitiful $100 cuck stacks are signs the top is in.

YET IT IS ONLY FEBRUARY AND THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE STILL BULLISH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.28439975]

>>28439427
WHY

[Anonymous No.28440041]

>>28439561
Honestly its either BTC, LINK or Doge if you want to make decent returns on something like that

BTC for the long haul (back when it was 10k or so)
Link for medium gains
Doge for 1 dollar

you do the math.

[Anonymous No.28440314]

my top signal is iota
it's the single biggest shitcoin in top 100
if it hits ath I'm getting out with everything

[Anonymous No.28440339]

>>28430191
>when the least financially responsible / savvy people in society start talking about it consistently
That happened to the stonk market and it just exploded to the upside

[Poorfag No.28440715]

>>28439802
I'm with you brother. If it goes tits up we'll ROPE together

[Anonymous No.28440869]

>>28438748
Same thing will happen, normies will always sell their btc for alts after btc starts going down and some alts start going up.
Also tesla and large firms will either sell otc or will just hold long term.
The question is when to exit the linkies.

[Anonymous No.28441059]

>>28439802
It's because every bullrun has a bigger retard population, in late 2017 it was the normies and some celebs, in eoy 2021 it will be everyone, as in everyone, you'll see family members arguing about shitcoins on kikebook if you used it, whores with their favorite shitcoin on tinder, etc..

[Anonymous No.28441182]

>>28429325
Im already out. Im not gonna let greed stop me from finding a chair. Good luck everybody who wants to keep dancing. Hope nobody here ends up with my bags.

[Anonymous No.28441298]

>>28441182
>> out at the first leg up. kek you missed 80pct of the gains.

[Anonymous No.28441326]

>>28430191
N

[Anonymous No.28441489]

>>28433250
It’s unironically different this time— institutions will be catching bags for years now

[Anonymous No.28441511]

>>28439629
This.

We will have a huge correction and that will be the best chance to buy for a few months before a stronger bull run (probably end of year, but maybe early next year).

[Anonymous No.28441576]

Am I gonna have to post the rolling average and logarithmic rainbow charts again? Are we gonna see these posts every week until the EOY crash from 115k?

Here’s a tip - this feels like the 2017 peak to you because your experience allowed you to get into this one earlier.

[Anonymous No.28441676]

>>28429909
this it's so fucking weird this time, all the social indicators like normie hype and shilling scream sell right fucking now, while all the graph analysis like rhodl, pi cycle, and just generally how the halving cycle usually runs say we're still a few months of parabolic growth away from the real top. elon kinda fucked up any predictive metrics we could normally rely on, and the unprecedented distrust in the dollar could make this go even higher, the truth is we casino now

[Anonymous No.28441774]

>>28441576
>this feels like the 2017 peak to you because your experience allowed you to get into this one earlier
/thread

[Anonymous No.28441948]

>>28428895
Logarhythmic regression (like bitcoin rainbow, i think)
And rhodl

[Anonymous No.28442241]

>>28441676
Gotta wonder about all those indicators. With everyone and their mother looking at them, how much frontrunning will their be? Feeling like waiting for a touch on the red zone of the rhodl/etc is gonna be too late.

[Poorfag No.28442376]

>>28441576
Fair point to be honest. Have been thinking recently that I've been around since the drop from $2900 -> $1800, but that only gave me experience of the tail-end of the bullrun. So this is my first full cycle after a halving, not just the latter half. Makes me anxious though as it means I'm floating on as much experience as a newfag in this specific time in the market.

[Anonymous No.28442416]

my indicators are N and J
not to forget W

[Anonymous No.28442738]

>>28430400
What happens in mid may

[Anonymous No.28442779]

>>28435568
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.28442816]

>>28430199
Thanks for that

[Anonymous No.28442876]

>>28441182
There were people who cashed out at $3k in 2017. They had TA supporting their decision and everything. Not saying your wrong, just be prepared for all scenarios is what I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.28442918]

>>28430120
the problem is it really is different this time. did institutions buy hundreds of millions of btc in 2017..no. even tesla bought over a billion. things ARE diffetent tis time.

[Anonymous No.28443076]

>>28432591
I get your point but remember that it took them this long to buy btc in the first place. Suddenly now they know how to buy before a pump? Why didn't they know 6 months ago, for the 5x? Why didn't they go in huge last cycle etc.

[Anonymous No.28443177]

The top will be when people stop posting bobos saying it's the top every time BTC goes down 5% and instead people just brainlessly buy the dip until they realize it's dipping harder and harder because TSLA is taking profits.

[Anonymous No.28443180]

>>28438748
You put 1/3 into alts while exiting BTC. Alt season commences like last time, great. It completely crashes, who cares.

[Anonymous No.28443183]

>>28428895
Dear Bitcoins,
I know you're probably not listening, but here it goes anyway. Please dump on all these nufags, toasties, and niggers. I hate them all and don't want them to share in my gains. Please shake them all off so fucking hard that they never come back.
Thank you,
Your lil hodler.

[Anonymous No.28443223]

>>28430424
It absolutely is getting ramped up, even if the virus is weak, 90% of npcs believe everything our "authorities" say over scientists and doctors speaking out against the fraud. Don't forget, the vaccine only prevents hospitalization (unless it kills or maims you, which odds are high it will), which allows it to mutate without the pressure of becomming less deadly, so they're going to blame the next covid version (they're already calling it covid-21) will be much stronger, then they really start pulling the medical tyranny shit.

[Anonymous No.28443376]

>>28430222
The entire crisis, like corona itself, was a scam meant to create a narrative for "most votes ever but only at 3 AM in philly, atlanta, detroit, milwaukee and los angeles" so that agent orange would be removed by the cabal of 80yo pedos who control DC.

If you think they have any possible desire to make things worse when it would just lead them to being lynched, you are retarded.

However if it DOES get worse, then it's because the entire structure is totally fucked and they have no ability to unfuck it- which means you'll know it's a real instead of a manufactured crisis and we're all boned unless you've been accumulating canned goods and water filters.

[Anonymous No.28443403]

>>28432591
If you are a good analyst, would you not quit these firms and invest your own money

[Anonymous No.28443471]

>>28432591
>goldman sachs analyst with 3 decades of analysing financial markets under his belt.
oh the people who are buying my bags rn? hahah yeah they are so smart and so early

[Anonymous No.28443527]

>>28428895
I know a top when I see one and that's when DBC does x10. So far only x2.

[Anonymous No.28443539]

>>28428895
>it worked well
>2/3 false signals in 2013
which one is it?

[Anonymous No.28443567]

>>28430191
N have been talking about crypto for months dude

[Anonymous No.28443659]

>>28443076
is it stated anywhere when they bought in? they could have done so during March

[Anonymous No.28443745]

>>28428895
>Any anons want to share their strategy on identifying the top of a bull run for cashing out and waiting out the crash?
If I believed this run was the same as 2017 I would give you an answer, but what is happening right now is different.

In 2017 the dollar was still strong. Right now, the value of the dollar is rapidly collapsing thanks to USA sliding into total degenerate irrelevancy. Everyone knows about covid of course. There is also the fact that institutions are buying BTC and established banks in the USA are offering custodial services for crypto.

I believe that Hyperbitcoinization is a potential possibility, as national fiat currency systems collapse, and everyone looks for assets backed by anything tangible.

[Anonymous No.28443809]

But honestly, I think a more relevant question is whether we'll see a double top like in 2013 or a single bull run like in 2017. Our pace seems to be somewhere between the last 2 cycles, we're going up way too fast to have steady growth until December but it doesn't quite feel like a vertical early top either.

If we end up going vertical in the summer and then crash, I'm not sure if I'd have the guts to bet on another December top and go back in.

[Anonymous No.28443832]

>>28443527
I know a top when I see one and that's when doge and funfair moon. And they did.

[Anonymous No.28443901]

>>28443183
Amen.

[Poorfag No.28444076]

>>28443403
Why would they quit a high paying job to invest opposed to you know...just keep on working at a high paying job and also invest their own money.

[Anonymous No.28444115]

>>28441059
Thus bull run will unironically be dot com level in terms of normies fomo.

[Anonymous No.28444137]

>>28443745
The US dollar is backed by 660 trillion dollars worth of assets. There are only 80 trillion in circulation. It’s going to hold it’s value just fine even if they double that amount. Everyone saying it’s getting weaker doesn’t understand how it works.

[Anonymous No.28444144]

>>28429937
Are you retarded? We just want to sell high so we can buy more coins.

[Anonymous No.28444172]

>>28441511
>>28439427
>>28439629
we just had a massive correction from 42k down to 28k and a massive head and shoulders pattern on every time frame, then a fake down dump. there isn't going to be another dump so quickly, you had your chance already. the next dump will be 85k down to 55k

[Anonymous No.28444186]

>>28434374
Why not just keep 10 percent of your holdings permanently in btc, in case crypto replaces usd

[Poorfag No.28444199]

>>28443539
I only see 1 arguably false positive here in earlier 2013? Even then it still is the top for the following 3-6 months after that. If you sold there and DCA'd back in you'd be laughing.

[Anonymous No.28444272]

>>28443745
Logical, but you're talking about the country that literally, not figuratively, stole everyone's gold in 1933 because fuck you, that's why. If things to tits up to the point of hyperinflation, all bets are off...

[Anonymous No.28444439]

>>28439802
You have to understand how this technological wave works. Everything up to 2018 was stealth, but at the end you saw a lot of FOMO. Everything up to this run was early adoption, it should look like we're reaching mass adoption, but a correction SHOULD stave that off for another cycle. At some point during this one a lot of people, normies and big money both, will get burned with a big paper hands hit on Bitcoin and still think it's a giant scam. Defi is still crazy new, and the infrastructure to to support mass adoption of non-boomer crypto has to be built out more.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.28444560]

>>28444137
so the usd isn't getting weaker despite 50% of the total supply being printed last year? uhhh ok. this is peak retardation. sorry, but i have no idea how you can think it's not getting weaker. you're just mumbling words while the fed continues to dilute its value

[Anonymous No.28444736]

>>28441576
big brained post right here niggers.

[Anonymous No.28444802]

>>28444186
>>28444186
>in case crypto replaces usd

there's zero chance of this imo. bitcoin is extremely impractical as a day-to-day currency and the govt would never let it happen anyway.

the best that could happen is that it becomes a long-term alternative asset class for large funds, rich people and shit, like gold. in which case it will probably go to six figures, perhaps even seven long term. i am concerned about the energy use though.

anyway, if i sell, it would be my hope to buy back in at a significantly lower price. but there's the risk that the price will never drop enough and i'll be left out permanently. so i still see your point

[Anonymous No.28444881]

>>28444560
I used facts to dispute what you said. It would take 300 trillion dollars in circulation to have any impact

[Poorfag No.28444973]

>>28443076
I kind of get your point, but they bought in when they bought in, as that's when they decided it was a correct choice for them? Maybe people hadn't really considered it properly till some grunt did some analysis and volunteered the idea to his boss. Or maybe they've had it on their radar for a while and been doing more complex analysis and research than we understand to measure and assess risk & volatility, waited for it to be at an acceptable level and went ahead. Honestly there's so many factors to consider I dont really think it's that clear cut - it could be though and you may very well be right.

[Anonymous No.28445008]

>>28444881
you should make a thread about it so i can sit back and watch every single person on the board mock you for thinking 50% inflated supply doesn't impact real world purchasing power

[Anonymous No.28445036]

>>28439576
You might want to look at what is more important to you

[Anonymous No.28445070]

>>28430345
If you can't see the difference between now and then you are actually retarded, or you didn't keep up with any of the massively bullish news/events.

[Anonymous No.28445101]

>>28428895
I’ve heard the pi cycle indicator is pretty good

[Anonymous No.28445125]

>>28444802
(((they))) would never let crypto replace national currencies.
Why the fuck are all these central banks creating CBDCs? Once that system is in place they'll start to regulate the shit out of crypto due to "muh terrorism" and "muh money laundering"
CBDCs will give govts absolute control over how their people spend the monopoly money and absolute surveillance on what they spend it on.

[Anonymous No.28445165]

>>28429909
It is simple
1) btc can keep its value because it actually has significant demand these days
2) shitcoins will be wiped out because 99% of them have currently no value, and at least 98% have no hope of ever having any value in the future

[Poorfag No.28445197]

>>28443471
Individuals operating under the umbrella of an institution with company capital with outline risk assessment to maximise stakeholder profits =/= individuals operating on their own with their own personal money & risk tolerance.

[Anonymous No.28445245]

>>28439576
If it's affecting your day to day life that much you've put in money you can't afford to lose.
You always need to make sure you aren't gonna end up necking yourself if crypto goes tits up.

[Anonymous No.28445261]

>>28441059
This, the market cycle meme chart doesn't apply 1:1 when it comes to emerging technology. With each cycle, we see an exponentially higher mcap, exponentially larger number of adopters, etc. The peak media attention in 2013-2014 was less than in 2017-2018, and 2017-2018 will be dwarfed by the media craze we'll see in 2021-2022

[Anonymous No.28445269]

>>28440339
I would love to see the stock market crash right now

[Anonymous No.28445301]

I'm a bit afraid of the hyperbitcoinization scenario since I'm all in LINK. Anyone else in the same boat? Selling part of the stack for BTC seems idiotic at these prices, but if there is hyperbitcoinization then the sat value might go even lower.

[Anonymous No.28445334]

>>28428895
Some indicators show the top will be in beggining of autumn. Like S2F. I dont think BTC will do just 2,5x in cycle or that it would be much shorter. We might have big correction but not crash and crypto winter yet

[Anonymous No.28445374]

>>28441676
>all the social indicators like normie hype and shilling scream sell right fucking now
no they don't, google search trends only has us at 50% of the 2018 peak

[Anonymous No.28445472]

>>28431091
>Why would a bunch of financial experts sign off on buying a few billion in crypto
a few million in BITCOIN you mean
Not a single institution is or will be buying Cardano, The Graph, Avalanche, IOTA, Fantom or any of the other thousands of shitcoins with retarded names and retarded logos. DeFi blue chips are the only one that have a chance outside of bitcoin

[Anonymous No.28445593]

>>28430199
I believe we are around May/June part of this chart right now

[Anonymous No.28445660]

Don't think we're even close to the top yet. Me personally, if Bitcoin hits 6 figures I will be thinking about a profit take. But this is not 2017. It's not just about crypto either. The writing is on the wall that the dollar is fucked and stocks are badly overvalued. If you want to pull your money from USD and stocks, where do you put it? Gold and silver if you can get it, commodities perhaps, and crypto. I am willing to be wrong here, but I don't think it would be smart to convert your ticket to wealth in the new economy for monopoly money when crypto's adoption phase is just beginning to kick off. It's higher risk then just holding and maybe having to see red numbers for a while - you can just buy more on sale if so. I am holding my long term positions hell or high water, what you do is your call.

[Anonymous No.28446075]

>>28445008
Then why hasn’t inflation taking everything you’ve saved because there’s been massive dollars issued in the past year and inflation has stayed the same? Maybe because it’s not been even close to the actual value the dollar is backed by.

[Anonymous No.28446102]

>>28443223
It'll make people infertile
I heard the gene is recessive, but since most people will be vaccinated, it'll sterilise a large portion of the population

[Anonymous No.28446278]

>>28445245
It’s all profit so it doesn’t matter if I lose it but still like 12k extra would be super helpful now and I don’t wanna lose it.

[Anonymous No.28446454]

>>28446075
the impact of the inflation won't be felt immediately. thats why i'm planning to be long gone from the US before shit truly hits the fan and have a supply of precious metals and crypto. and google the price of wheat - it's up 30% since june last year. thats the real indicator of inflation

[Anonymous No.28446475]

>>28444076
To not work an 8 hour office job

[Anonymous No.28446545]

>>28446454
I guess we disagree

[Anonymous No.28446588]

>>28444137
Look at weimar germany
If the amount if dollars double, it value will be about half

[Anonymous No.28446757]

>>28446588
Germany printed more money than they had value backing it. They actually had almost no assets when that happened backing their currency

[Anonymous No.28446834]

>>28444802
I also don't think btc will replace fiat but might become a store of value
Eth might replace usd, but most money my family has in eth, so i might be biased

[Anonymous No.28446957]

>>28446075
Because that has gone into the stockmarket, not to consumers
Look at spx/m1

[Anonymous No.28446987]

>>28443901
Were do for a flash crash to shake out those over leveraging.

[Anonymous No.28447027]

>>28441059
>whores with their favorite shitcoin on tinder
This is the sell signal i've been watching out for unironically

[Anonymous No.28447115]

>>28428895
RHODL seemed to have worked in the past. No false top like the other indicators

[Anonymous No.28447182]

>>28431091

Watch the Stockmarket if that retraces or dips you will cry with penny stocks crypto will be sold off to keep there position open in the stock market. Happened in March 2020.

[Anonymous No.28447348]

>>28445374
depends on the search term

[Anonymous No.28447470]

>>28432192

Smart money will be off loading bonds for money and put it elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.28447475]

Is there money to invest in crypto/BTC?

As long as there is money to invest (and there is lots of it rn and in the near future with the stimulus both in the US and EU), it will continue to grow.

When does that money end? When (or if) interest rates go up or the debt collectors come knocking on people's/nations doors. There is actually a surprising amount of nonperforming loans that are starting to stink, people living above their means with credit cards and loans they can't repay.

With so many people worldwide losing their jobs, governments will have to implement UBI type gibs. And UBI gibs is just another way to keep QE going into infinity.

[Anonymous No.28447538]

>>28446075
Inflation has been cutting directly into my paycheck in terms of how much I have to spend to buy what I need. I work construction and my company has had to charge customers double or triple what we'd have charged last year for similar work - why? Because materials and general cost of doing business have skyrocketed for many jobs. There is no genuine shortage of materials either. And I know when I go to the grocery store, I can always expect some prices will have ticked up since a few weeks ago - never, ever, ever down. The figures and charts you're looking at to reach the conclusion that printing money is fine and hyperinflation could never happen here, are entirely fictitious. If you increase the supply of a currency exponentially, its value will fall exponentially, this is hard fact. Give it time you'll see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.28447573]

>>28445660
what's your plan if the SEC says crypto is illegal? That Janet Yellen cunt just might pull that stunt

[Anonymous No.28447575]

>>28428895
normally this would feel like the top. It's hard to not fall into the "this time its different" mindset.. but what makes this run especially weird is that we have institutions waiting to buy dips, stimmy checks, and inflation happening all at once.
So honestly I have no fucking clue lol.

[Anonymous No.28447690]

>>28446278
Then take some off the table?

[Anonymous No.28447841]

DentaCoin pomped almost 150%
DENTA coin
IOTA pumped almost 100%

We are very near the top we have 2 weeks at best

[Anonymous No.28447929]

Boomers at my job are talking about the price of bitcoin again, I think we are at or very close to the top.

[Anonymous No.28447936]

>>28446075
no velocity, when economy opens up everyone gets fucked in the ass
part of why they don't want it to open up
it's a new epic way to keep your economy healthy, just make sure that you destroy economy fast enough to reduce velocity while you're printing money lmao

[Anonymous No.28448032]

>>28446957
I got over $300,000 in the pay check protection act and I only had to spend around $2400 of it on employees that missed work for corona. If you think all the money went to the stock market you are wrong. It’s money I’m going to give myself a bonus and use half to purchase new vans for my fleet. I purchase $200k worth of electrical supplies every month and I saw material shortages and wait times but no price increase.

[Anonymous No.28448187]

>>28440314
truth
IOTA and DENTA are the best indicators

[Anonymous No.28448333]

>>28448032
M1 can't increase with the consumer price index not moving much
It either went into stocks or cpi lags behind because it takes a bit for people to realise that the value of fiat has droppped
Probably a bit of both

[Anonymous No.28448338]

>>28441182
same. I got the fuck out and it feels good. locked in guaranteed profits. in 2017 greed caused me to sit there and watch my massive stack just crumble away until it was dog shit. Im not going through that again.

[Buy the dip No.28448385]

>>28442738
robinhood ipo. when they go insolvent because of vengeful gme bagholders, they wont have to reimburse users crypto holdings, and they won't. since they don't actually own any. most normies hold their BTC and ETH on RH, so this will destroy faith in cryptocurrency for a while.

[Anonymous No.28448415]

>>28447538
This is the exact opposite of what I’m experiencing. I have a electrical company in Jacksonville Florida with 45 employees and 20 vans running. No shortages?!? I’ve waited months on lighting packages and I’ve had strict limits on conduit and wire that have really been hard to overcome.

[Anonymous No.28448504]

>>28430120
good luck with that shit. institutions bought in 2017 and sold before it all went to shit.

they'll do the same thing this time. muh institutional money doesn't mean shit, they're out to make profits off the backs of all you greedy retards.

[Anonymous No.28448540]

I only started crypto in the second half of last year just before this bullrun started

Ive made so much money and am under constant stress not like you guys who have seen this all before.

not selling for a bit though, I will when I feel like it

[Anonymous No.28448556]

Just sell little by little on the way up then rebuy every time it corrects -30% or more
Top is in when it no longer makes new high but instead makes lower lows. Give it time like a month or so though, because it could be bear trap like last month.

[Anonymous No.28448561]

>>28438460
>deflation
>2021

[Anonymous No.28448573]

>>28447348
not yet

[Anonymous No.28448790]

>>28448385
I meant in terms of astrology, but interesting take
Do you get private keys for your cryptos on rh

[Anonymous No.28448810]

>>28448338
>in 2017 greed caused me to sit there and watch my massive stack just crumble away until it was dog shit
It went back to new ATH though the fuck are you complaining about

[Anonymous No.28448920]

>>28429909
Same here fren. It's the final moments that are most parabolic but extremely risky to be fully allocated in crypto at that point.

[Anonymous No.28448972]

>>28441576
This.

For anyone who was here during 2017, then you'll remember that Bitcoin retraced hard as ETH and Alts exploded parabolically. I thought this was happening the other week when Bitcoin dipped and ETH + Alts exploded, so when it started to drop slightly I went into stablecoins whilst the storm unfolded.

Thing is, it didn't - Bitcoin has now charged close to $50k. When Bitcoin dips hard and ETH + Alts continue to go up, I will once again start taking profits and moving into stablecoins.

[Anonymous No.28449024]

>>28441676
Remember this isn't a normie fuelled run like 2017. We are in normie FOMO territory but they only have so much money as average individuals. We need businesses to FOMO.

[Anonymous No.28449028]

>>28447573
In that event it's noteworthy that the dollar, or FEDcoin, etc will be horrible places to keep money. If inflation keeps getting worse lots of people will say fuck it and look for ways to buy a better currency, illegally if necessary. We have precedent for this in Iran with Bitcoin - also in Venezuela where people began using USD instead of the legal state-backed currency. Here people are already buying silver in droves to prepare for the worst, but it's getting hard to find. The next logical option is crypto. Also, the rest of the world will still have crypto, and the elite will still be able to invest in whatever they like. I don't see it going away anytime soon due to regulators, they might give us a temporary buying opportunity at worst. If I need to make a purchase in such a scenario, I doubt I'll have any trouble buying what I need. Other than that I'm holding long haul.

[Anonymous No.28449057]

>>28448540
your actually making money with /biz/ advice ?

[Anonymous No.28449178]

>>28449057
The first thing /biz/ tells you is buy BTC and ETH and if you did that last year you'd be way up now

[Anonymous No.28449206]

>>28449057
>Look for the least shilled coin
>Go all in
>Rinse
>Repeat


making money is easy here, I just haven't figured out how Im gonna keep it yet

[Anonymous No.28449227]

>>28448540
Relax
And be objective

You might want to limit yourself on checking the btc price
Perhapse once per day

[Anonymous No.28449327]

>>28429937
>JUST HODL WITH DIAMOND HANDS YOU APES ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY ITS ABOUT SENDING A MESSAGE PAPER HAND BITCHES DONT GET TENDIES JUST HOOOODLLLL

Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.28449370]

>>28449057
I found out about eth through biz when it was still very cheap
But i think there was less shilling here back then

[Anonymous No.28449423]

>>28448415
Well, I'll have to unpack what I said a bit: _genuine_ shortages. We did have several months of being unable to fill lumber orders for jobs, during summer. But I cannot see any reason for the shortage unless it's simply no one turning up for work at the factories. Now the shelves at the stores are chock full of boards... And the prices have not gone down, they're even higher than when they were scarce.

[Anonymous No.28449464]

>>28429937
dumb faggot. you must have a minimum 110 IQ to post here, so get out or lurk

[Anonymous No.28449506]

>>28449327
Its the reddit refugees. This is every man for himself. Take profits whenever the fuck you want. Dump shitcoins when they 5x. There is no in this together bullshit.

[Anonymous No.28449527]

>>28448810

BTC is back at ATH, newfag. most of the big altcoins never survived after that crash.

[Anonymous No.28449526]

>>28449327
That is what you do with BTC though. It's retarded to hold onto a stock of a failing company like GME, it's also retarded to constantly go in and out of BTC or gold trying to catch the knife every day when you know for a fact this shit's going up long term.

[Anonymous No.28449586]

>>28428895
72 weeks after the halving bro.

[Anonymous No.28449636]

>>28449527
>muh shitcoins
You'd lose that money even without a major crash

[Anonymous No.28449675]

>>28430199
this guy is pretty alright.

[Anonymous No.28449706]

>>28448573
...I said it depends on the search term. My screen is "crypto" yours is "bitcoin".

[Anonymous No.28449754]

>>28443177
This. For the bottom, the bulls have to capitulate. For the top, the bears do.

[Anonymous No.28449809]

>>28449028
Good analysis. Thanks.
It's just frustrating as fuck that our shitty government is actually worse than fucking China when it comes to crypto regulation. CHINA for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.28449886]

>>28449636
funny. I just cashed out a fat stack of RSR and made a bundle. get bent.

[Anonymous No.28449967]

>>28449506
thank you. This is the reason /biz/ has millionaires and reddit will stay poor forever

[Anonymous No.28449989]

>>28449178
>>28449206
any more sweet tips

is it too late to go all in on etherium?

[Anonymous No.28450045]

>>28449886
Nig are you really bragging about how great your strategy is after you said you had to
>watch my massive stack just crumble away until it was dog shit

[Anonymous No.28450103]

>>28438418

Money being printed yes but it hasn't entered into the economy. It is still in the financial system as liquidity not moving. M2 is also at a all time low.

[Anonymous No.28450144]

>>28428895
Its somewhere between 100k-300k

[Anonymous No.28450161]

>>28449706
shit bro I'm retarded I didn't read the post you were replying to, my bad

[Anonymous No.28450192]

>>28444439
There's also the "store of value" narrative when it comes to BTC. I'm honestly not sure how this will play out. Maybe near the top, they'll be a mass shift in consciousness from "great store of value" to "ponzi scheme, we need to get out." Not sure what might cause this though.

[Anonymous No.28450196]

>>28448573
>>28449706
also, most people already know vaguely what bitcoin is. terms that involve normies buying bitcoin are likely more aligned with general sentiment.

[Anonymous No.28450247]

So many oldfags in here. It's weird to imagine how many conversations we've had with each other over the years without really knowing it. Threads like this remind me that we're definitely all going to make it.

[Anonymous No.28450393]

>>28450196
at least it's an ascending triangle

[Anonymous No.28450589]

>>28428895
stop leaking alpha you faggot, don't make these threads fucking dumbass

[Anonymous No.28450591]

>>28449526
>bro just hold from 20k to 3k for 2.5 years no one can time the falling knifes

Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.28450614]

>>28446278
bro I cashed out a fat stack and it feels good. I left a little bit in just so I can be a part of all this still, but Im not about to lose this stack.

[Anonymous No.28450643]

>>28438460
We will never again see deflation in our lifetime. Number MUST GO UP

[Anonymous No.28450754]

>>28449423
That’s what I experienced also. Everything is back to normal now. I’ve been loving the low gas prices because we spend a lot of money on gas every month. I have seen some pricing increase also but it seems to have averaged out with China operations back to full swing. I’m still having lightning package delays. A package I ordered for a catholic school has been stuck on the ship for over two weeks while the port is backed up. I get different answers everyday about why this is but I know I’m not the only one affected. I had a draw withheld by the contractor and they were trying to penalize me for being behind schedule for the ceiling cover up but they backed off for now. I can say this. I expected it to be like the 2008 housing bubble. I was worried about the future of my company. I have men who depend on it to support their families and in 2008 I let a lot of them down and it really changed how I looked at my position in the community. I pray what I know about how fiat currency works is correct or we’re all fucked.

[Anonymous No.28450857]

>>28450247
Man I always think about the times I've had really positive interactions with guys here, and whether that person I called a "retarded nigger faggot" in the other thread was actually the same dude.

[Anonymous No.28450904]

>>28449809
Our country is worse than anyone when it comes to crypto.
US politicians who do nothing but beat their chests over how free and democratic the country is will pass shit that no one asked for and spend their entire careers sucking off any lobbyist willing to give them a buck.

How the fuck did we let them get away with taxing crypto to crypto transactions?

They use poor stupid niggers being poor and stupid as an excuse to tax anything that even resembles an investment.
The poor stupid nigger does nothing but stay poor and act stupid, so the politicians are always able to prop them up as a way to excuse taking money from people who take the risk with their money.

The ultimate fuck you to the American tax payer is the fact that insider trading IS NOT illegal for US Congressmen. That is literally "rules for thee and not for me"

Mark my words, the next few years it's going to be damn near impossible to make it if you don't have a large amount of capital to begin with. They want us all to join the stupid nigger in complacency and let them squeeze out the last drops of this nation's lifeblood.

[Anonymous No.28450929]

>>28450589
Helping others is a good thing

[Anonymous No.28451003]

>>28449423
I don’t used lumber so I can’t comment on how it’s price and supply work. Electrical material price has basically reverted to 2019 prices.

[Anonymous No.28451103]

>>28450754
Why not hedge

[Anonymous No.28451695]

>>28451103
Hedge what?

[Anonymous No.28452044]

>>28434419
Guts say that because you have too much money in. Sell some and see how your guts feeling is starting to change

[Anonymous No.28452360]

>>28451003
That's odd that the price corrected. With copper price steadily moving upwards this year, too. At any rate I don't think our problems in this regard are going away for long. We were expecting 2008 as well, no calls for months, instead we get unprecedentedly swamped with work while random things disappear from the shelves inexplicably. We couldn't find the basic blue plastic remodel boxes anywhere last electrical job we did - had to buy premium ones at 5x cost. Something just seems off about it, and last year's shortages at the grocery too.

[Anonymous No.28452367]

>>28444172
>85k down to 55k
do you shit green lines out of your ass

[Anonymous No.28452527]

>>28450857
Exactly. Just know that if I ever told you to fucking kill yourself, I didn't mean it.

[Anonymous No.28452680]

>>28450904
The plan as far as I can see for US politicians is to squeeze out the middle class.
That way they have a poor and compliant universal basic income Fedcoin population who must suck on the govt teat to even survive, and the ultra rich who own all the assets and prop up the politicians.

[Anonymous No.28452714]

>>28452360
This. Yes wire is slowly moving up but I’ve always locked the price for wire for a big job when I get the contract or if it’s a regular contractor I lock in the big wire cuts price at the beginning of the contract.

[Anonymous No.28453183]

>>28449886
>cashed out
LOL YOU LITERALLY SOLD FOR USD? ARE YOU A FUCKING RETARD? HAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.28453304]

>>28453183
fuck you bitch. I bought a shit ton of precious metals and paid off some debts. fuck you and your 10 Linkies.

[Anonymous No.28453523]

>>28453304
>10 linkies
LOL SURE BUD LIKE YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE HERE IN 2017 LMMMAAOOO
>debt
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.28453643]

>>28448972
>When Bitcoin dips hard and ETH + Alts continue to go up, I will once again start taking profits and moving into stablecoins
What stablecoins do you like best?
.t newfag

[Anonymous No.28453823]

>>28438799
when your mom and sister start asking questions, that's when you know we are about to pop out of the bubble LOL

[Anonymous No.28453893]

>>28428895
Yeh. Don't get fucking greedy. The top is when the adrenaline junky sociopaths decide to dump.

[Anonymous No.28453940]

>>28448790
You get zero keys through Robinhood. You just get to speculate on the price and sell. No withdraws or deposits. Most normies getting into crypto now don’t even own a single thing. RH is a cancer.

[Anonymous No.28454112]

>>28453823
Legit strongest sell signal

[Anonymous No.28454333]

>>28432192
Congrats anon, this is the most retarded take I've seen yet

[Anonymous No.28454461]

>>28453823
>>28454112
you fell for the bait

[Anonymous No.28454482]

>>28429937
these people like OP are retard
dumb money

[Anonymous No.28454785]

clowns, focusing on timing the top when you could be literally printing money now. Same guys who where muhh when alt szn months ago

[Anonymous No.28454922]

>>28428895
>within a few days accuracy
You got two random parameters (111, and 350) AND a terrible accuracy, with limited test data.

This is called over-optimization. Your indicator is probably useless. You are going to have to re-optimize your prediction after this.

There is no scientific way to predict a top. Its not like the price just hits a point, then decides to crash. All future prices will be weighted toward 50k. It will likely stay there and retrace there...between 44k-65k or something and you won't be able to sell off and get it back in time.

[Anonymous No.28454952]

>indicator

[Anonymous No.28455021]

>>28429909
The key difference is normies are realizing fiat is a joke. Hyperinflation. I would have cashed out last week if not for this. Who the fuck knows what's going to happen.

[Anonymous No.28455134]

>>28453643
USDC, never USDT. Best is to just withdraw to your bank or credit card.

[Anonymous No.28455188]

This is honestly one of the best-highest quality threads December. My eyes are getting a bit watery when I see that true OG's came together to discuss topic like in the good 2016-2017 days before all that FOMO, pajeets and kikes.

WAGMI Frens

[Anonymous No.28455283]

>>28438561
Uh oh, retard alert

[Anonymous No.28455281]

>>28455188
*since december 2017

[Anonymous No.28455301]

>>28445472
Grayscale owns 2% of all LTC. I just sold my LTC stack for some AKRO. Please don't moon yet.

[Anonymous No.28455469]

>>28447936
We are truly in the hands of neurotic incompetent retards who want to kill us.

[Anonymous No.28455682]

>>28447348
>>28448573
Sign that normies & boomers are getting more educated about the space btw if crypto > btc

[Anonymous No.28455721]

>>28450591
Yes that's exactly what I said, I'm glad you can at least read despite being a dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.28455755]

>>28454952
One big cocaine-fueled meteor crashing down on my hopes and dreams.

[Anonymous No.28455822]

>>28428895
There is no top, all fiat currencies are going down hard and commodities going up insanely high , we will see masive inflation eoy worldwide specially on food which will trigger massive strikes around the world and increase in wages paid by more inflation in a loop.

[Anonymous No.28455839]

>>28445374
this indicator is mixed at best, you can't really assume everyone who wants in is just gonna search "bitcoin" to get into it, most people who would buy BTC are at least already aware of bitcoin. if you start mixing other searches in thinking "what would I as a normie google to start getting into btc trading?", you get similar results to just "bitcoin" sometimes, but sometimes not so much

[Anonymous No.28455860]

>>28432192
4-dimensional retard

[Anonymous No.28455872]

>>28450857
Am I the only one who feels like biz has become less hostile over the past several years? Could be that I've gotten used to it, but I swear people on here are generally more decent to each other now - it's really jarring lmao

[Anonymous No.28456058]

>>28439427
Next week

[Anonymous No.28456102]

As much as I want to sell for massive profit, I know what I have now is not enough, and I'd definitely want to kms if I missed out on $100k or $250k BTC this cycle. I know I wont be able to multiply my stack on stocks as easily as it is to simply buy and hold crypto.

[Anonymous No.28456300]

>>28441676
>>28441576
/thread

[Anonymous No.28456311]

>>28454922
Tbf it's all tea-leaves and guess work, but it's clear that there are patterns among certain fundamental indicators and market movements. Using one as a silver bullet isn't going to work, but making use of several is likely to actually be useful. Though only provided those indicators are able to capture the data they're fundamentally trying to model correctly AND that data is actually correlated to the market movement you're trying to predict. Whether some of these technicals are inherently useful, or have gone through survivorship bias of being the few that luckily enough still hold true and haven't been proven useless yet is the big question.

[Anonymous No.28456389]

>>28429909
I'm gonna unironically go completely off the RHODL index.

BZB+1

[Anonymous No.28456501]

Glow nigger thread

[Anonymous No.28456537]

>>28455188
Thanks fren - Take this golden pepe for luck.

[Anonymous No.28457004]

Let me make the "new paradigm!" case...
Institutions are buying and normies are buying. Surely this is bullish? They'll not go BACK to fiat or even stonks.
Ok, so the bear case. If institutions are buying large volumes, they can also dump large volumes and since normies are getting in, they'll get fucking spooked and accelerate any dump. There's also the issue of the stock market. If it collapses because capital is fleeing into the crypto, an insolvency event or crash in the stock market will tear down crypto as people have to sell assets to pay off debts. All the capital going into crypto is financed by unprecedented fiat printing and debt issuance. Crypto will be hit hard by a stock market crash.

[Anonymous No.28457499]

>>28432192
What the hell are you even talking about? Hyperinflation is the foremost purpose of bitcoin in the first place. People running for the exits in USD will look for any and all escape points. That will lead them, inexorably, to Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.28458083]

>>28444802
>Zero chance
Dead wrong and let me tell you why. Bitcoin maximalists insist that everything needs to happen on chain, but the fact is that centralized services like Visa and Mastercard (which both announced planned BTC integration this month) will be a big part of that. It's contrary to the decentralized narrative, but the harsh reality is not quite the libertarian utopia. Legacy systems will persist, but will hang on, providing the ability to scale to ungodly transactions per second with only the final amounts eventually settled on-chain in large batches.
I caution people to look past what they want out of Bitcoin as fundamentalists, and rather to see what it will likely become as an ecosystem working within the existing framework while still retaining it's own independence of sorts.

[Anonymous No.28458300]

>>28458083
Nigger mastercard says buy algorand

[Anonymous No.28459261]

>>28446757
De dollarization is a real thing. It's happening all around you right now in China and Russia whether you choose to accept it or not. Europe will have the opportunity to settle in something besides USD and that is a grave danger to the reserve status.

[Anonymous No.28459374]

>>28455721
If you actually held from the 2017 top through the bear market you are a dumb fucking nigger and should never give financial advice to anyone

[Anonymous No.28459543]

>>28447573
According to the announcement from BNY Mellon, this is not in the cards.

[Anonymous No.28459786]

>>28445261
big brain

[Anonymous No.28460367]

>>28439336
Stupid monkey didn't pull the pin. Also lol'ing at the retards who have any respect for "institutional investors". These greedy fucks go bankrupt left and right all the time. And for a group of people who hate institutions they sure do like when they get into crypto because it makes their bags go up. Here's a protip, these banks and hedge funds can't afford to not be bullish, if they are they lose customers, that's why in every single crash in history they follow each other off the cliff. They literally have to or they'll lose money, whether it be in the short run or the long run.

[Anonymous No.28460417]

>>28459543
I wouldn't bet on that.
Lots of little hats in the Biden admin. They will always do whatever is best for the (((tribe))).

[Anonymous No.28460492]

>>28441298
> he's so scared he had to leave a comment about a guy taking profits to make himself feel better.

cope

[Anonymous No.28460630]

>>28441576
Post it

[Anonymous No.28460695]

who cares about your tea leaves?
I'm not cashing out til june period

[Anonymous No.28461200]

>>28428895
i don't time the top, i DCA monthly. bear market, bull market, rain or shine faggot. no point in selling anymore. unless you're in the alt casino. then god help you if u try to time this shit. i remember people selling at 6k, 11k, 17k and then 17k, 11k, 6k. i saw some poor faggot on youtube "buy the dip" in 2018 at 8k thinking it was the bottom. you're never going to get it right.

[Anonymous No.28461272]

>>28428895
It’s gonna be $54200.69

Source: just trust me bro

[Anonymous No.28461435]

>>28457499

Fucking same old tired talking point moving goal posts about why bitcoin is worth more than 1 dollar. Simple answer is its a speculative asset, nothing more. Run back to r/bitcoin and tell them you posted it again. You might get some moons out of it.

[Anonymous No.28461587]

>>28455822
This. The game is only really starting now.

[Anonymous No.28461598]

>>28441576
Yep youre 100% right, I remember many celebrities with hundreds of millions of followers tweeting about altcoins at the start of 2017

Oh no sorry scratch that you're just a delusional retard

[Anonymous No.28462205]

>>28461435

WHAT THE FUCK ISN'T A SPECULATIVE ASSET YOU DICKFUCK?

[Anonymous No.28462245]

>>28428895
I know exactly the 14-day range this will occur, but sorry I can't spill the beans or it won't happen

[Anonymous No.28462425]

>>28430480
timing tops and bottoms is straightforward at the time frame extremities
t. made it

[Anonymous No.28462513]

>>28462425
Elaborate

[Anonymous No.28462599]

>>28447115
It worked because it was retrofitted though

[Anonymous No.28462608]

>>28459261
What are chinas real gold reserves like I wonder.
what if they team up with Russia/Venezuela/Iran to bootstrap+force sale of energy/rare earths in gold backed currency.
what if bitcoin is somehow tied up in this as the us desperately tries to fight dedollarization under the guise of (((terrorist financing))).
what if PMs moon (In dollar terms) in response to USD demand dropping.
how do CBDCs fit into this .... why is China first at CBDCs .... will PMs and energy become reserve assets over petrodollar ... or will it be GasGoldRubleYuan ... or will energy buyers remain hostage to the dollar ... or will reserve assets and exchange mediums decouple , with PM as reserve and a basket of currencies on hand as trading currency .... how will sanctions be enforced .... or do we just return to a Cold War world with 2 trading blocs

[Anonymous No.28462699]

>>28462608
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.28462747]

>>28431426
Only 1 Link? You are not gonna make it fren.

[Anonymous No.28462775]

>>28462513
Zoom In

[Anonymous No.28462813]

>>28433148
getting a few %/year is better than nothing

[Anonymous No.28463041]

>>28443745
>>28445261

Largely agreed with these two posters, the

1) macro conditions are vastly different
2) while retail FOMO and sentiment levels are similar to 2017, today's Defi usecase vastly mogs the ICOs and the steaming pile of shit we saw in 2017 that claimed to have value.

I really think that the thesis of decentralization and DeFi is what will make or break this cycle imo. In 2017 crypto was barely functional and only a handful of shitcoins outside of BTC/ETH could be considered, but without access to external data smart contracts were essentially useless.

I think that other than just looking at cycle indicators (which are debatable as to its accuracy in future predictions) I much prefer to look at some big brain takes by Sergey and some of the guys in the space right now:

TLDR you are basically long crypto if you are a LINKie that believes in the adoption cycle of DeFi (and smart contracts as a whole).

[Anonymous No.28463081]

>>28462699
checked
the GasGoldRubleYuan scenario has been war game at pentagon, excluding crypto and CBDC components (source: Jim Rickards ‘currency wars’)

[Anonymous No.28463128]

>>28432192
>interest rates going up
>buy bonds

[Anonymous No.28463279]

>>28435118
I mean isn't it beautiful. You hand people money and at the same time shill internet coins and then you pnd on them and put the money back into the bank of institutions. It's really a circular system if you think about it and maybe that's why the bull keeps on running without inflation kicking in...yet.

[Anonymous No.28463295]

>>28463041
Just to add on to what I said, notice how bullish Sergey is as a whole on the adoption of DeFi:

>https://twitter.com/SergeyNazarov/status/1359316951210749952

Not to mention on the Binance livestream a week or so back where he dropped some hyperedpills on fiat, hyperinflation and the problem of yield.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9dJ9q0z_94

And lastly how can anyone forget this screencap and the thesis Sergey puts across as "Defi eats Cefi"?

We are in a different stage of the game now where crypto has some real adoption and valuation metrics. I think this bull run may shock people.

[Anonymous No.28463362]

>>28463081
needless to say the eastern bloc won that war game

[Anonymous No.28463420]

>>28439802
That’s fucking it? Your indicator is normie adoption??

[Anonymous No.28463587]

>>28428895
Well the good news is it wont crash literally overnight, you'll have a decent 48 hours to move into usdc/t and ride the dip then dca in at the bottom and wait 3 years to triple your stack.

[Anonymous No.28463679]

>>28429325
i thought so to but elon reversed the trend, for now...

[Anonymous No.28463871]

>>28429937
kys

[Anonymous No.28463932]

>>28463679
Honestly I saw it as a huge sell signal. While mass adaption should send us into another realm pricewise, and I'm not arguing that 50k BTC isn't already there, normies kill everything they touch.

[Anonymous No.28465270]

>>28429909
JANNIES SHUT THIS POST DOWN. THIS IS A SECRET GRAPH