Resume Thread

[Anonymous No.28358616]

There was a resume thread last night and there were lots of helpful anons with constructive criticism. Post your redacted resume or give your advice and opinions.

I'll start with my revision from last night's thread.

[Anonymous No.28358809]

>>28358616
move education below experience, get rid of that honors shit, fill out your employment experience more and focus on achievement/goal stuff not obvious shit like "maintained this" "repaired that"

[Anonymous No.28358824]

>having a resume

[Anonymous No.28359120]

>>28358616
add ' avid 4chan contributor. Has a great collection of meme pics.'

[Anonymous No.28359364]

>>28358616
based thread, I also need help
basic facts
>germanfag
>18
>2y unemployed
I know web development and design but struggle to get a job, mostly because im too retarded to write and send a resume..
What the fuck should I do lads? can i just go burger flipping somewhere?
>>28359120
I'm up like 2000% with crypto, can I put in "decentralized asset manager" or "cryptocurrency capital allocator"
kek

[Anonymous No.28359439]

>>28358809
I figured the honors would be more valuable as the first thing HR sees, but you're definitely right about obvious shit. I'll have to highlight deliverable for these roles. Thank you, anon.

>>28358824
Maximum comfy, I'm sure

>>28359120
>Yes, I think I'd make a great jannie
>Salary? Not necessary

[Anonymous No.28359767]

>>28358616
fyi i was able to find the OP of that thread very easily based on the syntax and keywords he used that matched his linkedin. i'm not autistic enough to try to find you too but just fyi. i'm also not an asshole who publicly doxes people either just letting you know to be careful with this. it's not difficult to find people even with personal info redacted

[Anonymous No.28359887]

>>28359364
I can't speak to web dev career paths, but if I were you, I'd come up with some sort of project that you could highlight on a resume. I think getting started with zero work experience is the hardest part, so if you cannot find work for yourself, you could create work for yourself as a temporary workaround just to say, "Yeah I have proven skills in x." This won't pay at first, but it'd be lines on a resume that pertain to your desired career path while you flip burgers somewhere.

[Anonymous No.28360068]

Is a summary at the top of a resume even worth it. My fuckin college "resume department" pushed it

[Anonymous No.28360160]

>>28359767
Yeah, I've considered this and I appreciate the concern. I'm here to help and be helped, so I'm not really worried about any of that.

[Anonymous No.28360237]

>>28358616
Your second bullet point: "Repairs and upgrades....." should be in the past tense since it was a past job. Rework it to something like "Performed repairs and upgrades including..."

[Anonymous No.28360362]

>>28360068
In lieu of a summary, I use cover letters instead. Just an entirely separate document that says, "You have a role I want, I have skills and abilities you need, etc." From how the last resume thread went, it seems that a policy of Less Is More is preferred for your resume because people would rather jack off than read my first resume submission.

[Anonymous No.28360562]

>>28360237
Nice catch, thank you.

[Anonymous No.28360580]

>>28358616
Try thinking about your experience in terms of accomplishments and not a list of job duties. Like did you offer training or guidance to your peers? Did you improve production time on something? Did you identify an area for optimization of some bullshit in your process? Did you ever mention to a manager that if we did something x way, it would be cheaper, easier, less error prone, or faster? This sets you up for the interview as well because they will ask you to explain some of this stuff and you can easily prepare your narrative/story in your head and have it ready for interview day.

[Anonymous No.28360764]

>>28359887
I do work for free as a web design and dev for a small game project, I'm sure they are making money with the game but im fine with just having something to fill the gap with

also this is my "resume"
I'm hoping for design and layout tips, I'm 18, made this one myself in InDesign, probably made a mistake but haven't sent this to anyone yet

[Anonymous No.28360976]

>>28360362
Better way to phrase it than “you have a role I want” is “I can do what you need.” People are selfish, and the only reason they’re looking at a resume is because they need someone to handle something for them. You move to the front of the line if you tell them you can fix their problems. Nobody cares if you “want” a job.

[Anonymous No.28361014]

>>28360764
Anon if you want a coding job you just need a github (or gitlab if you're white) with shit you wrote on it. Resumes are for non CS faggots. Just show the code, show some initiative, and don't be retarded in the interview and you can land normie coding jobs. If you want top tier shit you just cram leetcode.

[Anonymous No.28361103]

>>28361014
I have a pretty website but no real useful project except for shit like this https://prq10k.vercel.app

[Anonymous No.28361199]

>>28360362
Thanks. I said out loud that I doubt employers read that part. But college class was pretty adamant about it for some reason.

[Anonymous No.28361232]

>>28361103
Then you need to write some code, spend a few weekends and crank out some stuff. I've been a hiring manager for years, the guys we hire code for fun and have their own personal projects.

[Anonymous No.28361295]

No one gives a fuck about your honors or education

[Anonymous No.28361375]

>>28360764
>>28361014
basically what this anon says, github trumps all in the coding world. create something nice, put it on github, larp about some stuff you did off github, and people will want you.
for web design, you want javascript at the forefront. learn react and html, flaunt it by placing it very clearly at the front of your resume (before any other languages). create your own website and make it posh - put your site and your github link at the way top. good luck anon and godspeed

[Anonymous No.28361414]

>>28360976
You're definitely right. I even use that language in these cover letters and it is more effective in getting replies.

[Anonymous No.28361743]

>>28361232
>>28361375
Thanks lads, I wish it worked like that here, but companies care more about useless or rather non programming related stuff..
My plan is to get a job flipping burgers asap, then while doing that AND crypto, work on projects.. not sure how feasible that plan is considering I do nothing right now and still neglect working on projects in favor of crypto
also i think i need to work on other things first.. its 4am again..
god I'm so fucked anons..

the ONLY thing i have to cope with, is that I'm god tier with picking good projects and can basically generate an income of that, if it were not for crypto i'd be pretty fucking depressed right now

[Anonymous No.28361865]

>>28359364
So can we actually form our firm now?

[Anonymous No.28361965]

>>28361865
I actually looked into this, turns out it would be a tax nightmare

[Anonymous No.28361976]

>>28361743
Why don't you try it the way people in the industry are telling you it works before you decide you know best and go back to burger flipping? Don't sleep until you have a usable project in your github anon, if you can't do this you're a pussy and you'll never make it. Coding is easy mode if you'll put in the work because its full of soft faggots like the old you who won't. Just make it to a senior eng role and its cruise control.

[Anonymous No.28361995]

>>28360764
i hate resumes like this shit give me your fucking actual experience, not one liners PROJECTS ACCOMPLISHMENTS

[Anonymous No.28362064]

>>28360362
so should i include a thot picture with my resume?

[Anonymous No.28362314]

>>28358616
Don’t describe your job duties of it’s a typical position within your industry. Instead, note your achievements while you had the job. And keep it to one page

[Anonymous No.28362391]

>>28361995
This is good adv, thanks.
But my jobs were just one liner "handing out shit" "school-internship in a kindergarten" shit like that, please keep in mind that I'm just a retarded teen

>>28361976
I was more asking a question about my plan than saying I'm going to follow said plan, but you're absolutely right.
also I appreciate you taking the time to even reply to me
>because its full of soft faggots like the old you who won't
tell me more about this anon

[Anonymous No.28362509]

any other cybersecurity engs here?
my team is obssessed with agile goddamn, we just had an entire day meeting for scrum planning fuck this shit I need a new job

[Anonymous No.28362750]

>>28358616
Mr chemist, I´m distilling cbd from direct ethanol extraction and I have all this chlorophyll....How do I get rid of that, and what would you earn if an employer picks you? with those qualifications

[Anonymous No.28362769]

>>28358616
>be me
>be employer
>HR faggot (literally but he's cool) gives me stack of applicants
>I get the stacks he prepared and I split them into approximately equal stacks without looking at the papers
>randomly select stack to be immediately sent to the shredder
>my (gay) nigga does that black woman oh snap look (he's also black)
>implying I want to hire somebody who is unlucky

[Anonymous No.28362782]

>>28361995
>>28362314
This is definitely a recurring theme in this thread, good advice. Might have to start including recurring feedback in the OP. Thanks anons.

>>28362064
Just remember: Don't call them, they'll call you, so you need to also leave your phone number below the lewd pic for optimal interview chances lol

[Anonymous No.28362794]

>>28362391
You're self taught it appears, so you're already more motivated than most of your competition. That is your advantage. Pull an all nighter, crank out some project on your github. Some covid dashboard/data aggregation or whatever you frontend faggots do. Put some shit in the readme about it being your 'covid stay at home' project so the onions hiring managers can relate elaborate the shit out of every tech/framework/etc. you use on the project in your resume and just generally stop being weak. All the new college grads waste their time in school pursuing no extra projects, just showing up to class and graduating and expecting their job to show up at their door. Don't be that guy and you'll beat them out every time.

[Anonymous No.28363059]

>>28362794
this anon is based af, anyone who wants to get a coding job reread his posts and take them to heart and you will make it

[Anonymous No.28363494]

>>28362794
this is my first real Site, and i basically got laughed off the interview, admittedly it turned out the guy was a little crazy but still..
https://porty.netlify.app
did that with raw html/css, probably the reason why he thought it was shit

learning react right now, will do something awesome soon, thanks anon, really
also thoughts on the site?

[Anonymous No.28363571]

>>28358616
need dmt and lsd, have eth.

[Anonymous No.28363743]

>>28362750
While I'm not well-versed in this area of chemistry being my focus is Oil/Gas, I'd say your best bet for maximum separation of THC/CBD with minimal contaminants would be an industrial distillation process which would probably be pretty expensive. If you ask me again in the next resume thread, I could read up on the topic and try give you a more definite answer because even I find my answer unsatisfactory.

As far as compensation goes, I'm truly not concerned about what I'm being paid, even if I'll act like it for negotiations sake. I am pigeonholed in technician roles, and while I do enjoy the labor and mechanical aspects of the work, that's not why I put myself through college. Pay is not the focal point, I want growth, and I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment.

[Anonymous No.28363746]

>>28363494
Not a frontend guy and I don't really have any input on design. Just go search for jobs at the big tech companies and see what frameworks they're using and use those. Maybe some other anon can give you more direct critique/advice on that.

[Anonymous No.28363803]

Law school guy back again.
Its much cleaner but >>28358809 is right about highlighting work achievements. But a volunteer and extracurricular activities at the end of your resume is important (maybe less for technical position)
>Dates
Unaligned in the honors section, looks sloppy. Also you use a different format for work experience. Why is it next to the positions here but not for honors? Choose one and make it consistent throughout.
>Repairs and upgrades include
Tense and grammar wrong
>As part of degree coursework
Missing period and nobody cares that it was part of your coursework, you weakened your experience by clarifying where your received it instead of what you did.
>Overall
Change the voice you use so that you are more active in these positions. Tell me what you did as a manufacturing technician that will make you a valuable member of my team. Id switch the order to Edu-Work-Actv but Edu and Work are interchangeable. Lots of white space and easy to read, but you can have a larger font and not gigantic spaces between everything.
Also get rid of unique from skills and experiences, just title things like a normal person. Education, Work Experience, Volunteer and Extracurricular Activities, Skills, Interests. Dont need them all, but dont use linkedin/tedtalk lingo for titles.

[Anonymous No.28363903]

anyone got examples of good entry level cs resumes? idk what the fuck to put on it i just graduated

[Anonymous No.28364207]

>>28363803
All very good advice. You make good points about weakening arguments with extraneous details and the active voice. I've been tinkering with spacing and sizing to combat visual congestion, and this first revision reflects that, so thank you for the feedback.

[Anonymous No.28364665]

>>28358616

Qualifications
I hold a both an arts degree and an engineering degree. I have an MSC information technology.
I am a published author of four well received books on diverse topics.
I have two decorations for bravery and awards for my work as a software development and .an honorary law degree for my work in peacemaking
I wrote software used all over the globe by billions.
Work Experience
I have worked as a consultant in 20 major corporations, delivering outstanding results on every occasion.
Hobbies
In my spare time I created a system enabling paraplegics to communicate with loved ones more easily and acted as a peace broker in conflict in the middle east. I have interests in gemology, artificial intelligence, renaissance antiquities and lost artifacts

I am expert in armed and unarmed combat and a qualified firearms instructor. I have qualified for the Olympics in one sport and am internationally ranked in another.
Languages:
I speak English, Greek,Latin,French and German fluently. I have some Italian.

I am unemployed. I fucking hate work. Fuck that shit

[Anonymous No.28364796]

>>28363494
this is really nice anon, if you were going for UI design skills that's not bad at all.

[Anonymous No.28365164]

>>28364207
Just an example of how to phrase these sentences differently. Was good enough for a job, but this could benefit from edits.

[Anonymous No.28365260]

comfy

[Anonymous No.28365291]

>>28364665
I highly recommend this approach to anyone else in a similar position to me who despises being employed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVp9rKF3hag

[Anonymous No.28365412]

>>28365260
It's for you

[Anonymous No.28365500]

I unironically put "decentralized asset portfolio" on my resume as job experience and I don't know if that's cringe or impressive to normies

[Anonymous No.28365516]

>>28363903
What's your degree in? Do you have any work experience? Extracurriculars?

I started by looking at the most basic resumes off google, then adding to mine every time I saw something that would be complementary to my resume whether it be styling or wording. Getting started is the hardest part which is why I say you should try and make the most basic resume you can just so you have a work in progress that you can improve steadily.

[Anonymous No.28365572]

>>28365260
What's the nicest thing you have made by laying bricks? Did you know Winston Churchill became obsessed with bricklaying and compulsively building elaborate red brick walls in retirement?

[Anonymous No.28365642]

>>28365164
This is good, you have a varied skill set, anon. Thanks for the example!

[Anonymous No.28365682]

>>28365500
Its extraordinarily cringe. However I would call you for interview for the sheer comedy potential

[Anonymous No.28365762]

>>28365164
Please tell me this is not actually your life ending one second at a time. This is actually my life....
>>28364665
For fuck sake start living before you die

[Anonymous No.28365841]

>>28365682
That's kind've what I thought but my only other job experience is as a construction laborer and fucking walmart so I thought it would help diversify things a little bit.

[Anonymous No.28365897]

>>28365164
For a start is organizational skills, not organization skills. and you have a comma before an and.

[Anonymous No.28365972]

>>28358616
/biz/ went to shit lmao. ngmi brehs

[Anonymous No.28365982]

>>28361232
do you guys look at personal websites often?

[Anonymous No.28366006]

>>28365841
I'd be more likely to hire you if you held down a stretch working as a construction labourer than I would because you keep a"decentralized asset portfolio" at the back of your fridge

[Anonymous No.28366108]

>>28361232
>oh you're a doctor? then do you operate on people in your freetime?

[Anonymous No.28366127]

>>28365982
Never. I would ask algorithmic based puzzles if I was interviewing technically and just keep asking questions until I got a dead end.

[Anonymous No.28366184]

>>28365897
>Organizational
Correct
>Oxford comma
The required standard in the McGill guide for legal citation in Canada.

[Anonymous No.28366311]

>>28366184
Sorry I did not realise Canada was so linguistically primitive. And implies a pause. I suppose Canada is trying to lead the way in a gradual collapse of civilisation.

[Anonymous No.28366462]

>>28362769
I've heard that one before, and I agree, I don't want an unlucky engineer working at my multi-billion dollar plant kek

[Anonymous No.28366620]

>>28366108
I'm not hiring doctors anon. I'm hiring coders. If your fellow doctors competing for jobs were in a large part performing surgeries on the side for fun I'd suggest doing the same. Maybe grab some free animals from the spca or something.

[Anonymous No.28366773]

>>28362750
I'm assuming you don't have the ability to just use a chromatography column. Vacuum distill it. Chlorophyll and terpenes are not going to get distilled over.

The toughest part of this will be making sure you actually get the cbd over with the solvent and don't destroy it. Removing the solvent afterwards is the same procedure but you shouldn't need heating.

[Anonymous No.28366970]

>>28358616
Slightly related but has anyone hired a professional resume writer before? I earned a lot of certs and a degree this year and want to move into a director position. Scam?

[Anonymous No.28367066]

>>28366620
'Coders'? What planet are you from? I assume you are either an actual sample of something from the social media marketing swamp or even worse marketing and branding. However you certainly are not hiring coders as a web page is of zero consequence to knowledge of assembly, C, C++ or the underlying algorithms expressed such as e.g a simple dining philosophers. Do you really think you sound plausible to people who really have lead software teams at high level? Fuck off with your web page.

[Anonymous No.28367134]

>>28367066
What web page are you even talking about retard?

[Anonymous No.28367266]

>>28361103
>>28361232
>>28367134

[Anonymous No.28367376]

>>28367266
Are you actually fucking retarded? The guy responding to me has some web page. I told him to code an actual web app and use whatever frameworks are hot in web development world at the moment.

[Anonymous No.28368115]

>>28358616
engineering bro, cheers

[Anonymous No.28368146]

>>28359364
Get CFA. Dev, except crypto is new-age slavery. Get some charter. Career change is hard as fuck.

[Anonymous No.28368950]

>>28366773
Can you get terpenes but no chlorophyll?

[Anonymous No.28369115]

>>28367376
Don’t listen, you are responding to a seething boomer C++ developer who can’t find work because his not dinosaur enough to be a COBOL dev.

[Anonymous No.28369234]

>>28366311
Oxford commas are for the linguistically challenged. They are redundant except in corner cases, where their use is acceptable for clarity.

[Anonymous No.28369456]

>>28358616
It seems you cant hold a job for too long. Why is that?

[Anonymous No.28370313]

>>28369456
The jobs I have listed I worked during university. One was a temp contract for three months, one I had to leave to be full time at uni in a different city, but I left off a tutoring gig that I had for almost 5 years, so I was technically working two jobs from late 2014 to early 2019. I got rid of it because it seemed irrelevant to the skill set I'm trying to project.

If it's now posing an issue where I look flaky, that is an unintended consequence.

[Anonymous No.28370613]

[Anonymous No.28370713]

>>28359364
>>28358616
im 24 and havent had a job in 3 years
my life is financially ruined

[Anonymous No.28371002]

>>28370613
I know recruiters that will toss a resume the moment they see its more that one page, cut that shit down

[Anonymous No.28371206]

>>28358616
The description of your current job doesn't give me any idea what it is you actually do.
>Supported
>Operated
>Cross-trained
How did you support?
What did you operate?
What additional responsibilities?

What was your IMPACT?

>intermediate adequacy in C++
This is almost certainly not true.

>>28370613
>Completely did blah cutting deployment time by 50%
OP, this is the kind of thing you should mimic.

[Anonymous No.28371224]

>>28370613
This is a good showcase for points that have been made in this thread with how you have an active voice when you describe your work products. The jargon is lost on me, but the tl;dr at the top accounts for that. As long as the reader is knowledgeable of the craft, I'd say you're good. The cert badge is a nice touch too.

>>28370713
I wouldn't say ruined. There will always be a need for a pair of work-ready hands somewhere. Labor has its value and always will, but getting started today is better than tomorrow. What was your last job? What interests you?

[Anonymous No.28371569]

>>28371224
I worked in a cafe, it was fun but I wanted to go back to university so I did
mostly I just work on personal coding projects but I always get bored and move on to the next one after 6 months and none of them are useful

[Anonymous No.28372502]

>>28371206
Yeah, I really liked that resume. The biggest takeaway from the feedback for this revision was exactly as you said. As for the C++, I don't think I'm a beginner either since I've been coding on my own for years. Intermediate seemed the proper word choice. The thing that I'm most worried about is hiring managers having the same reaction as you are. If that's the case, the wording is too strong regardless of my experience.

You come off as experienced yourself. What do you think the break points are for coding experience levels?

>>28371569
Completing projects is a task unto itself, even more so when they're personal projects and have no oversight but your own. It's okay that they're not useful. Finishing projects might just be a more useful skill than conceiving useful projects when you consider all the personal projects in the world that go unfinished regardless off whether they're useful or not.

[Anonymous No.28372689]

How much work experience do you realistically need to get out of absolutely braindead admin work? I've been filing and printing for almost two years out of university now and it makes me want to kill myself every day

[Anonymous No.28372991]

>>28372689
what do you want to do instead of admin work? number of years doesn't really matter as long as you have the skills the company needs.

protip to job seekers: if a job says X years of experience, it's there usually as a retard filter, not a hard requirement. Obviously don't apply to senior executive jobs as a fresh grad, but if you're missing a couple of years of experience it's fine as long as you have a decent resume.

[Anonymous No.28373308]

>>28372991
Background is in geopolitics and languages, but I'm currently working in immigration (have tried to make my CV look better by doing some analysis on protection visa shenanigans in my spare time)

[Anonymous No.28373649]

>>28372502
>hiring managers having the same reaction as you are
The hiring manager might believe it. But in the interview they'll say things like, "tell me about a time when you had a conflict with your coworker" and send people like me to figure out if you can program.

C++ is complicated, and I've interviewed a ton of people who list C++ on their resume (and even program in it, professionally) that objectively do not know the language well enough to not be a liability.

My go to question is like, "what is wrong with this piece of C++?" and the code is a function that returns a reference to something on the stack.

And 5% of people get it immediately. The rest don't know C++ and lied on their resumes. Not on purpose. They just don't know what they don't know.

[Anonymous No.28374103]

>>28373308
You could unironically do work in the intelligence community assuming you're in the US. Various agencies prefer people with foreign languages and geopolitics backgrounds. Might be worth looking into, but they take a long time to hire people.

>>28373491
LaTeX is based. My reaction engineering professor made us learn it, but I haven't used it since. The only other people I know who use it are grad students.

>>28373649
Unknown unknowns, you're absolutely right. It would be best to play it safe there. I would rather downplay knowledge than be too presumptuous in my ability, especially since I'm self-taught. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

[Anonymous No.28374315]

>>28373308
You have a bunch of choices with your background, you could go to political think tanks, NGOs, govt work, etc. Anything in particular you are interested in?
>have tried to make my CV look better by doing some analysis on protection visa shenanigans in my spare time
Side projects are always good to use as leverage in an application, keep that up

[Anonymous No.28374963]

any UI/UX designer anons here? been looking to get out of my current job and into crypto so any tips would be welcome

[Anonymous No.28376463]

How do I list my work as a subcontractor? I was a business consultant for B, but my direct supervisor and team worked for D. D has significantly more prestige, but what should I put down? Both?

[Anonymous No.28377829]

>>28360976
This anon is right. People don't like to read, keep it short, bullet points etc. Use the 'you' view, "here's what I can do for YOU/YOUR..."