Cardano is better than Ethereum: Charles Hoskinson explains

[Anonymous No.28115609]

https://youtu.be/s1n_KuYZpdc

[Anonymous No.28115713]

>>28115609
According to Charles, cardano is better than eth?

[Anonymous No.28115871]

I don't understand. Who the fuck is throwing money at this scam? Is it the same kinds of retards who pumped it during the 2017/2018 altcoin bullrun?

[Anonymous No.28116448]

>>28115871
>>28115713
ETH maxis days are numbered. im going to coom into a pool of your tears as soon as ADA flips eth and laugh as I watch it go to 0 and you lose everything.

[Anonymous No.28116487]

>>28115609
Why would I give my money to a kike like that. You will never go wrong not trusting a kike.

[Anonymous No.28116525]

Charles Hoskinson is a tranny

[Anonymous No.28116654]

>>28115713
Go drink some multicoloured unicorn diarrhea faggot. Ethereum is fucking finished.

[Anonymous No.28116922]

>>28115609
Welcome to the future of crypto anons. There's still time to get some - we're not at ATH yet and Gougen hasn't even released yet.

[Anonymous No.28116997]

>>28115609
>retard tries to pump his own bags
this opinion is not a surprise to anyone and it doesn't mean anything, the guy is a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.28117008]

>>28115609
Charles is cute and smart. And he talks to his community

[Anonymous No.28117294]

>>28116997
>thinking that your 2 ethereum are going to pump our bags
Moon mission is boarding now my dude. Get in or regret it later.

[Anonymous No.28117776]

>no smart contracts
>no defi
>no liquidity pooling
>no lending
>no DEX
>no dApp
>no dApps in development
>no usecase
>no NFTs
>no ERCs
>no interopability with other chains
>no L2s
>no etherscan
>no metamask
>no literally anything

[Anonymous No.28117827]

>>28115609
They literally have a ghost chain why are people putting money into this shit what?

[Anonymous No.28117900]

>>28116448
aha

[Anonymous No.28117913]

>>28117008
Why is he cosplaying as Peter Griffon in that photo?

[Anonymous No.28118067]

>>28115609
Coming for ETH. lol FUD is so strong now. They know when smart contracts get released, shit is on.

[Anonymous No.28118257]

>>28118067
i AM SHAKING, MY ETH WIL WORTH 0 TOMORROW!

[Anonymous No.28118324]

eth maxi's get the guillotine

[Anonymous No.28118910]

>>28118067
>when smart contracts get released
they've been 'releasing soon!!!1!1!' for six years now. and even when they come out literally nothing changes bc it'll be years before good shit like DEXs even exist on the chain.

[Anonymous No.28119836]

>>28117776
>working smart-contract on testnet
>best decentralized algorithmic stablecoin (AgeUSD)
>most appropriate platform for dapps handling large amount of coins
>literally no shiny toy features, only serious financial usages

[Anonymous No.28120033]

>>28119836
>literally no shiny toy features, only serious financial usages
anon's previous post did nothing, but you just fudded me out of ada

[Anonymous No.28120344]

>taking financial advice from a man who routinely needs electroshock therapy

[Anonymous No.28120478]

>>28115609
i bought 70k ada today, will it go to $1 before .67?

[Anonymous No.28120536]

As an Ethereum developer for the past few years, Cardano really puzzles me. I'd say about 90% of the devs I know are sticking with Ethereum, no plans to switch, although a good percentage of them are looking at Ethereum L2 solutions like Optimism & Arbitrum to escape Ethereum's high gas fees.

I have a number of friends working on Polkadot, a couple at the protocol level, but I also know a couple projects trying to build on top of parachains.

I know one person working on Cosmos, on protocol level stuff. I don't know anyone looking at Solana, but at the very least, being backed by FTX's SBF means it will have some interesting projects developed on it.

Despite Reddit's love for Cardano, I don't know anyone that's even considering working on it. I've read into is many times, but despite all Cardano's "peer reviewed" papers, I never find anything that's really interesting or innovative (I mean, their consensus is effectively DPOS and their scaling strategy revolves around state channels).

[Anonymous No.28120537]

>>28115713
Others agree
Headline:
DNATags(TM) To Convert Ethereum Solidity-based Smart Contract To Cardano's Goguen Smart Contracts
Santo Mining Corporation (SANP)
>HO CHI MINH CITY, VIETNAM / ACCESSWIRE / February 8, 2021 / DNA Brands Inc. (OTC PINK:DNAX) and Santo Mining Corp. dba Santo Blockchain Labs (OTC PINK:SANP) owners and developers of DNATags™, today announces that DNATags™ will be converting its Ethereum Solidity-based Smart Contract to the Cardano Goguen Smart Contract. Santo Blockchain Labs has been developing and deploying Ethereum Solidity Smart Contracts for over 4 years now, with experience in ERC-20, ERC-721, ERC-1155 & ERC1450. The company has evaluated the long-term economics and technology benefits and has determined to move all its blockchain projects from an Ethereum to the Cardano Goguen. Unlike Ethereum, Cardano uses a mechanism that handles the tokenization natively on the ledger instead of via smart contracts, making all tokens in the Cardano blockchain follow the same logic and be inherently supported, instead of requiring the creation of layers as is the case of ERC-20 and ERC-721 tokens. This will ensures scalability, performance, and reduces transaction costs; also known as GAS Fees in the Ethereum world which lately are extraordinarily high and slowing down the transactions on the Ethereum network.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dnatags-tm-convert-ethereum-solidity-140500242.html

[Anonymous No.28120541]

>>28120033
I'm supposed to care? I'm just on /biz/ to discuss platform technologies. I already have all the money I want!

[Anonymous No.28120680]

>>28115609
who's using ada?

[Anonymous No.28120754]

>>28115609
Based.

[Anonymous No.28120781]

>>28115609
what the fuck isn't better than eth? Anyone with a brain and any experience trading eth knows that its days are numbered (unless 2.0 saves it). Absolutely TERRIBLE scalability right now. This in no way resembles the digital currency of the future. Only something like XRP really comes close (fast, scalable, incredibly cheap, deflationary).

[Anonymous No.28120810]

>>28115871
>>28120537
These guys for one. If I bought stocks, I would by these guys'. They are winners.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SANP/

[Anonymous No.28121398]

They’re both shot compared to Hedera

[Anonymous No.28121447]

Based Cardano Holder

[Anonymous No.28121456]

>>28115609
Can someone explain to me why it's impossible to just have both systems, each with their market share?
Like Apple and Microsoft sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.28121492]

>>28121456
nobody is saying one will fully kill the other

[Anonymous No.28121561]

>>28115713
According to the founder of AGI and many others as well. nice reddit meme though.

[Anonymous No.28121604]

>>28115609
>"cardano"
stupid sounding name, ngmi

[Anonymous No.28121606]

>>28121398
I just fomoed into hedera. Fuckin prayin on it man lol

[Anonymous No.28121615]

>>28121398
actually, hedera is patented closed source doo doo

[Anonymous No.28121652]

>>28115871
>scam
is this some kind of intense COPE in hopes of changing reality. it's not gonna work anon, Cardano is coming whether you like it or not.

[Anonymous No.28121657]

>>28115609
Talk to me again when it's not a ghost chain anymore.

[Anonymous No.28121682]

>>28115609
Avalanche is going to bury them all

[Anonymous No.28121711]

[Anonymous No.28121785]

>>28121682
can u explain why? im genuinely curious

[Anonymous No.28121834]

>>28120536
Yeah, beginner devs and small IT companies are going to stay on ETH, but without strong protocol foundations, smart-contract ecosystem deployed there will not be able to evolve at world-scale and stay alive long-term.
>>28120033
Also, don't get me wrong. "Serious financial usage" doesn't necessarily lead to the same old corrupted centralized services. But for the non tech-savy user who doesn't care about crypto, unless everything works better than what he currently has, he won't switch nor give up his survival for the sake of some upcoming decentralization. Cardano has good foundational understandings of those issues and a unique approach regarding money (protect the people, not the system), leading to a potential stability as a store of value. If you don't like ada, avax is another great option.

[Anonymous No.28122040]

>>28115609
nano is faster and cheaper than bitcoin, however bitcoin is trading at 42k. How about nano... exactly...


this is the same shit with with these faggots that love to lick charles hoskinsons balls......EVEN if the tech was actually better (still not a single smart contract to prove so) we will never see price appreciation greater than ETH.

You faggots can keep on coping that you are in this for the tech, Im here to sell my ETH at 5000-10000 and make some fucking money here.

eat a dick homos

[Anonymous No.28122120]

>>28115609
Algorand will eat Ada

[Anonymous No.28122180]

>>28122120
agreed but we will make more money in ETH, I am holding a bag of ALGO too

[Anonymous No.28122220]

>>28115871

yep, it's exactly the same retarded bagholders, still trying to make up their losses on the expense of newfags. it's hilarious

[Anonymous No.28122252]

>>28120033
DEX is coming to Cardano, Stablecoin coming to Cardano, AGI coming to Cardano from Ethereum, Defi coming to Cardano from Ethereum, if you wrap your mouth on an ETH bagholder's pipe and swallow his fud hook-line-and-sinker then there really is no hope for you. I hope you keep a suicide stack for the safety of your future self come April.

[Anonymous No.28122270]

>>28120033
You know how many transactions swift handles a day?
How many transactions and orders a typical stock or crypto exchange handles a day?
How many trades go through a clearing house?
How many money market trades happen via a central bank?

Imagine clipping tickets on all of those.

Who knows what will happen but you have to be fucking dumb not to take dvantage of that.
I'm all fucking in. I'd beg, borrow and suck cock just to get more.

This platform was built for that. I have not seen any other platform address crypto and block chain in this manner.

Whether it's cardano or some other project whoever pulls it off is going to make billionaires look like food cart operators.

[Anonymous No.28122339]

>>28118324
theres no such thing as an eth maxi you newfag.

we all hold a fuckton of shitcoins, just not your faggot coin with tranny developers

[Anonymous No.28122550]

>>28122040
Nano vs bitcoin is not the same thing as ada vs eth. Both nano and btc don't do anything! They are literally legal ponzi schemes passing as "StOrE oF vAlUe", just like gold, and the mcap fully depends on how and when social gossiping spread FOMO and greed.
Also, Cardano is a Tezos killer and is not even comparable to to eth.

[Anonymous No.28122573]

>>28120680
Georgia and Ethiopia, for real world applications, SingularityNET is moving from ETH to ADA.

[Anonymous No.28122585]

>>28121456
ETH will survive but the future of the Crypto ecosystem will not be a single winner takes all. The problem for ETH (and why ETH bagholders and Vitalik are panicking) is that once projects migrate away and developers begin deploying on other platforms, the dream of world domination is over for ETH forever. There will be no compelling reason for the ecosystem to re-concentrate on ETH and that is why Phase 0 was rushed to market the way it was and why Vitalik is cracking the whip to try to rush the other phases to market. Still years from completion though.

[Anonymous No.28122657]

>>28121604

Found the newfag

[Anonymous No.28122666]

>>28121398
Yes buy a "cryptocurrency" that is owned by 1 man who can shut anyone out. Totally centralized to one guy. not smart. Just buy an amazon service then.

[Anonymous No.28122818]

>>28117776
shhh, don't tell them

[Anonymous No.28122823]

>>28115609

I couldn't even finish that, the dude is so clearly delusional/scam artist. That fat fuck kept talking about cars and sand and seatbelts and said nothing of value. Fuck this shitcoin, gonna buy more ETH.

[Anonymous No.28122903]

>>28117008
yeah because that's how he gets dumb fucks lured in this obvious scam. have you idiots learned nothing from history lol

[Anonymous No.28122916]

>>28122120
nah.

[Anonymous No.28122956]

>>28121615
Who cares if it’s closed source?
Banks, governments, and corpos are going with Hedera DLT.
Do you hate money?

[Anonymous No.28122998]

>>28122956
>buy my googlecoin goy
no thanks

[Anonymous No.28122999]

>>28120781
Ethereum isn't a digital currency you absolute fucking mongoloid

[Anonymous No.28123038]

>>28122999
It is. Waste of trips.

[Anonymous No.28123078]

>>28122956
It's not a cryptocurrency if it's closed source controlled by one dude. It's a joke and buy it if you like it but don't delude yourself.

[Anonymous No.28123110]

>>28122956
Banks don't create worth. The value will be where the creators are going.

[Anonymous No.28123166]

KEK. EIP1559 on ETH coming.

Cardano bag holders on suicide watch!

[Anonymous No.28123190]

>>28123038
It's a platform for smart contracts. Ether is the currency. Welcome to crypto newfag, perhaps next time take a minute civilizing yourself before embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.28123203]

I was a major investor in AOL - lost everything .
Today i am an ETH whale.
Now i get the same vibes like with AOL.
But this time i will be smarter.
Tomorrow i dump all my ETH for ADA and AVAX.

[Anonymous No.28123251]

>>28115609
> why a shitcoin is better than a trashcoin

[Anonymous No.28123276]

>>28120536
What about AVax?

[Anonymous No.28123336]

Love all the hate ADA is getting mETHies on suicide watch, you could have made real money instead your hold a pedo coin.

[Anonymous No.28123349]

>>28122550
nano is not "store of value" pajeet. and the only thing cardano kills is itself, absolute shitcoin

[Anonymous No.28123376]

>>28115609
the fact that you can port/emulate ERC20 is amazing. ETH is done for. fuck paying another jewish gas fee.

[Anonymous No.28123383]

>>28119836
>working smart contracts on testnet
>thinks its going to take eth down who's had them for 5 years on mainnet
>cant make NFT's

[Anonymous No.28123459]

>>28123166
yep ada bagholders are getting desperate lmao

[Anonymous No.28123535]

>>28116487
>f
>>28117776
>a
>>28118257
>g
>>28121657
>g
>>28122120
>o
>>28122823
>t

[Anonymous No.28123630]

>>28117776
Right. From what ive gathered it’s tryi g to compete with btc. Like a pos version instead of pow

[Anonymous No.28123730]

>>28123383
>yep ada bagholders are getting desperate lmao
>Cardano has NFTs
>Cardano can run any smart contract that ETH has using it's Solidity KEVM and Solidity devs can test their migration today using the KEVM Devnet. Plutus and Marlowe smart contracts coming in March/April.
>Ethereum has been a nice testnet for trying out smart contract ideas

[Anonymous No.28123733]

>>28123459
>bagholders
>desperate
ADAs up 1000% since last year anon

[Anonymous No.28123791]

>>28123730
cope
>>28123733
based

[Anonymous No.28123810]

>>28121834
youve got it backwards. large industry size players won't risk anything on alternative unproven chains, and they're the least likely to care about fees. its the gimmicks, ponzis, gambling contracts that care about fees. we saw this with eos, with tron, and we'll see it here too.

just like the gimmicks of bitcoin like colored coins moved over to ethereum, the gimmicks of ethereum might move over to another chain, but given ethereum was the first mover for non-gimmick complicated smart contracts, theres little incentive to move to a chain entirely dominated by gimmicks.

bitcoin -> ethereum was only possible because it did things not possible on bitcoin. cheaper, faster, is not somehing worth switching ecosystems for.

[Anonymous No.28123876]

fuck this retard
buy KUSAMA and DOT if you really want to make it

[Anonymous No.28123921]

>>28123459

ETH holders are fucking retarded, if everything switched over to Cardano the only difference would be lower fees but mETHies are so kike fucked that they're willing to pay skyrocket fees for no reason. If you're a dev you know the word is going around that Eth 2.0 is broken beyond repair and they're except ing major issue.

[Anonymous No.28123922]

>>28123791
That 1st quote got copied from another post by accident anon. You'll notice how it doesn't fit with the rest.

[Anonymous No.28123948]

>>28117827
What does this mean? A ghost chain is a coin that doesn't get used much and isn't under development. Cardano obviously isn't either of those things and I don't know what you mean by they "have" a ghost chain. If there were a ghost coin on the Cardano network it wouldn't affect them at all.

[Anonymous No.28123973]

Celsius (big player) wants to move to Cardano because it's cheaper and better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyaKw8LFSFU

[Anonymous No.28123984]

>>28122550
nano isn't a legal anything.100% premined, "distributed" with zero proof, it's a dead alt that becomes just as slow as bitcoin with only an order of magnitude or two more transactions per second. why bother when second layers allow for millions of tx/s? its obsolete.

[Anonymous No.28124003]

I refuse to support this douchebag and his douchy crypto

[Anonymous No.28124030]

>>28123810
this is what an ETH bagholder tells himself every morning in the mirror.

[Anonymous No.28124050]

>>28122252
dex's already exists on eth

stablecoins already on eth (with actual CBDCS to come)

Defi already on ETH.

What is Cardano going to do to actually innovate here? even proof of stake has been done many projects in the past. I feel like Cardano holders are very similar to XRP holders

[Anonymous No.28124073]

Priced out anyway faggot

[Anonymous No.28124091]

>>28123922
ok i've marked it as decoped
its now based
>>28123730
based

[Anonymous No.28124156]

>>28122585
this is why bitcoin wins long term, always. every alt is too focused at killing each other, and they're all incapable of killing bitcoin.

they all better hope second layers don't become commonplace for smart contract platforms because as soon as they do setting on top of bitcoin becomes the obvious non-contentious platform of choice.

[Anonymous No.28124290]

>>28124050
make everything better, more secure, more performant, and enable shit that could never hope to be built on Ethereum. But you'll just have to wait and see anon. Don't worry anon, April is coming your way like a freight train and you'll have the answers to your questions before you know it.

[Anonymous No.28124300]

>>28123973
Thanks for this. Watching now.

[Anonymous No.28124333]

>>28122252
Tezos already has all of that. Stablecoin, DEX, STO´s, NFT´s. We don´t need any more of that. Cardano is too late

[Anonymous No.28124362]

>>28123810
I have a question what do you think about IOSt also i think bitcoin colapse cause the fees and i dont see a solution coming up

[Anonymous No.28124397]

>>28124156
bitcoin is killing itself with its inability to innovate. It is a great store of value if you ignore the insanity of it's electricity consumption. we'll see how long it lasts into the future.

[Anonymous No.28124512]

>>28123810
>large industry size players won't risk anything on alternative unproven chains
You're talking about eth right? Ada is pretty much the only crypto with a peer-reviewed consensus algorithm and node specifications. (even the smart people behind avax can make mistake https://twitter.com/AlexSkidanov/status/1132384759437332480 )
>they're the least likely to care about fees.
They definitely don't want their userbase to be priced out and leave for another competitor.
>ethereum was the first mover for non-gimmick complicated smart contracts
Still zero real world adoption. All tokens on eth are entirely gimmicks and speculative assets.
>cheaper, faster, is not somehing worth switching ecosystems for
If you really think $100 of gas fees and 10 min of waiting is not worth switch, you're either in denial or intellectually dishonest.

[Anonymous No.28124580]

>>28123733

your money is better in btc. look at the chart provided, will continue to not perform as well.

However, many defi projects on ETH, up 100% on BTC. Im here to make money not in it for your science theory bullshit.

[Anonymous No.28124680]

>>28124290
listen faggot, I heard this all before in 2017, were you here?

[Anonymous No.28124691]

>>28123190
>Ether is the currency.
Yeah exactly what I said you 50 IQ faggot

[Anonymous No.28124756]

>>28124333
>Yahoo already has all of that.... Google is too late!

[Anonymous No.28124796]

Kust build the smart contracts already or your vaporware will dump

[Anonymous No.28124904]

Breadcrumbs... watch this clip anons... give it 5 minutes of your time
>millions to be onboarded
>millions to be onboarded
>time stamp 9:08
https://youtu.be/MUPKtfTLvAk?t=548 [Embed] [Embed]
https://youtu.be/MUPKtfTLvAk?t=548 [Embed] [Embed]
https://youtu.be/MUPKtfTLvAk?t=548 [Embed] [Embed]

[Anonymous No.28124920]

>>28122998
>>28123078
>>28123110
You’re going to cry when it’s worth $100 a token and HBARchads are driving Lambos

[Anonymous No.28125001]

>>28124680
yes I was here, and now in 2021 the leviathan awakens. You had 4 years anon.

[Anonymous No.28125057]

>>28124030
its what the market tells everyone every single day. its statistically improbable that cardano is the be all-end all of "smart contracts", and since they have nothing else to fall back on, its not an interesting platform.

it's the problem with all of these incremental-step "killers", they're definitely technically better, but time and time again it's proven that technical prowess is utterly irrelevant when it comes to incentivizing people to use blockchains.

>>28124333
yeah and who's using tezos? they've fallen to the wayside too. all of these platforms started back when ethereum was really just a toy moving tokens around and getting hacked and rolled back every other month. problem is in the time they all took to get released people stopped caring about staking rewards, tokenized ownership, there was just too much easy money to be made on ethereum, for better or worse.

>>28124362
sorry i dont understand the question. what collapse? bitcoin has highly limited block space which they will need to change in the future, but high fees just price out smaller transactions, its as i explained before. the lower liquidity and lower value users move elsewhere, but liquidity stays despite the fees.

>>28124397
vast majority of btc mining is literal free renewable energy, and its only getting cheaper. its only a geopolitical problem as the existence of those energy sources arent evenly distrubuted.

[Anonymous No.28125087]

>>28124920
>I'm right because you will be wrong!
hashgraph is a centralized shitcoin scam with bogus performance claims and unproven tech.

[Anonymous No.28125098]

>>28124920
if I wanted closed source patented and controlled by 1 guy corporate-ware I would just buy boomer AMZN stonks. Do I cry when Amazon or TSLA moons? nope

[Anonymous No.28125181]

>>28116487
Is Charles Jewish?

[Anonymous No.28125250]

>>28120537
Yeah enterprise is coming to ADA. ETH has a childish look and feel to it.

[Anonymous No.28125339]

>>28121456
I think ETH will be fore hackers and outsiders, ADA will be for enterprise.

[Anonymous No.28125386]

>>28125057
>incentivizing people to use blockchains
you mean like millions of people being onboarded through governmental contracts?
>millions to be onboarded
>millions to be onboarded
>time stamp 9:08
https://youtu.be/MUPKtfTLvAk?t=548 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://youtu.be/MUPKtfTLvAk?t=548 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://youtu.be/MUPKtfTLvAk?t=548 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]


Cardano is THE most interesting platform anon. have you seen this btw? Every major programming language usable for writing smart contracts on Cardano. Pretty fucking awesome.
>https://youtu.be/k8a6tX53YPs

[Anonymous No.28125436]

>>28121682

[Anonymous No.28125476]

>>28124512
yeah, cardano's proof of stake is interesting, but correct me if i'm wrong it's another delegation-based consensus, which is something most researchers think should be avoided for better decentralization.

>They definitely don't want their userbase to be priced out and leave for another competitor.
absolutely, but even at these fees ethereum is basically free money for lots of huge liquidity providers. its a prisoners dilemma if anybody is going to move to cardano, and a big risk if others don't follow. liquidity is absolutely everything on smart contract platforms, without it they're just shitty dead ico platforms circa 2016.

>If you really think $100 of gas fees and 10 min of waiting is not worth switch, you're either in denial or intellectually dishonest.
for small fry, yes. but you don't want those people, you need to attract liquidity and cheap fees isn't it. i think you underestimate just how insanely profitable ethereum is for large holders right now.

[Anonymous No.28125549]

>>28121711
How old is this?

[Anonymous No.28125600]

>>28125339
PolkaDot will be the place for hackers IMO. This thing is a battlefield waiting for the war-horn callout.

[Anonymous No.28125604]

Cardano IS A GAY

[Anonymous No.28125616]

>>28125386
dont have time for the video. the every programming language thing, you know its possible on the EVM right? or any virtual machine. solidity isn't actually a thing, its just a higher level syntax, exactly like on cardano. its just there's no real history or culture of writing smart contracts in anything else, other than maybe vyper

[Anonymous No.28125629]

>>28125181
99.3% aryan.
https://twitter.com/iohk_charles/status/1005558951545659393

[Anonymous No.28125628]

>>28125339
>ETH will be fore hackers and outsiders
check out this:
Marlowe lets you write secure smart contracts using a graphical interface on Cardano. It is a DSL aimed at financial smart contracts, aimed at users who are finance domain experts who are very familiar with common financial instruments but who have zero programming knowledge. Pretty cool
>https://alpha.marlowe.iohkdev.io/#/blockly
>https://docs.cardano.org/en/latest/marlowe/marlowe-explainer.html

[Anonymous No.28125714]

>>28115871
exactly my thoughts. t.bagholders from 2018.

[Anonymous No.28125761]

>>28125616
the 1st 5 minutes of that 1st video is all it takes anon. millions of people are being onboarded onto Cardano in a real-world usecase and it only expands from there.

[Anonymous No.28125836]

>>28125339
enterprise will want to be on the largest used platform, or on a private one. i dont see enterprises isolating themselves on a minority public chain, the whole point of them using a public chain is to be able to interface with the rest of the world, if they dont want that, they won't be using a public chain at all, like most experimental users of BCs do today

[Anonymous No.28125981]

>>28125616
there's something about Haskell being a functional language and the K framework that is going to make Magic happen, and that channel is actively being pursued now for Cardano.

[Anonymous No.28126194]

>>28125836
Charles has something to say about that:
>https://youtu.be/GJANeEkj408
and now cardano will have the millions being onboarded to back it up.

[Anonymous No.28126223]

>>28125981
i strongly believe using a niche purely academic language like haskell is one of the worst decisions cardano has made. there's a reason cardano is now one of the if not the biggest funder of haskell itself. that's a position you never, ever want to be unless you created the language in the first place.

[Anonymous No.28126307]

>>28125476
>its a prisoners dilemma if anybody is going to move to cardano, and a big risk if others don't follow
I know this is a good comparison, but don't forget Bitcoin is a worthless token and people still switched to it from USD.
>you underestimate just how insanely profitable ethereum is for large holders right now.
It's only the case because of its overly inflated mcap.
>>28125836
Enterprises want to survive, that's it. What you don't realize is how technologically behind ethereum is. Evolving from PoW to PoS can even lead to a complete failure undermining all the projects invested in it. Leaving eth is of very little risk and highly rewarding.

[Anonymous No.28126343]

>>28126194
any non-cardano sourced information on this onboarding? i dont get ethereum adoption news from ethereum owners

[Anonymous No.28126365]

>>28115609
No kidding Hoskinsons the leader of Ada thinks its better than Eth...

Besides, he should be comparing it to Avax and Algo as those are the other 3rd gens Ada needs to compete with. Hint: Ada is worse than both of them in every way possible.

[Anonymous No.28126440]

>ADA takes down ETH
>AVAX takes down ADA
The cards are on the table.

[Anonymous No.28126444]

>>28115713
are you sweating, vitalik?

[Anonymous No.28126569]

>>28115713
This is the DeFI you delivered to us, Skelly.

[Anonymous No.28126672]

>>28126223
I see your point. Did you know that anything that runs on Ethereum can run on Cardano now using Cardano's Solidity KEVM (K Ethereum Virtual Machine). And that compatibility will be maintained going forward indefinitely. Also Cardano is bringing every major programming language on board in a similar manner through the K framework and Runtime Verification. Described here:
>https://youtu.be/k8a6tX53YPs

[Anonymous No.28126805]

>>28126223
ahh, sorry didn't mean to link the same video to you twice. thought it was someone else.
>>28126343
That is coming at the end of the month and will include govt officials. "The Africa Special" presentation.

[Anonymous No.28126847]

>>28116487
>>28125181
No. I was watching an AMA and somebody asked him. He said he is from Italian decent. I want to post a link but I'm not going to search through his 3 hour AMA's. It was in one a from few weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.28126951]

>>28116997
where is eth2.0? get scared, faggot.

[Anonymous No.28126954]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Cardano already #1 most decentralized crypto and that's BEFORE smart contracts

[Anonymous No.28127012]

>>28126307
bitcoin is only worthless if you remove the entire digital asset ecosystem. while digital assets are still valued or have utility, bitcoin, being the only purely-launched cryptocurrency is the only neutral ground crypto that can possible ever be a store of value. and the MC has nothing to do with it. most of the money being made on ethereum isn't in ether.

leaving ethereum is only of little risk if you don't have to sell ether or buy cardano, and whatever liquidity you're providing is external to both platforms.

>>28126672
yes i've heard this, sounds like a lot of legacy baggage cardano probably shouldn't have bothered with, it would be like ethereum launching with a utxo-compatibility layer.

[Anonymous No.28127111]

>>28127012
it's about developer acquisition.

[Anonymous No.28127153]

>>28126954
% of supply being staked seems more like an indictment to me. nothing better to do with it, no better money made elsewhere, etc.

[Anonymous No.28127322]

>>28126223
I strongly believe exactly the opposite. Love Haskell! :)
Real argument though: functional programming is the most appropriate language for highly secure applications. It's easy to read and understand once you're fluent in it, and the harsh learning curve can serve as an idiot filter (not saying beginners are not welcome, ada supports JS and everything else).
>>28126440
Avax is nice and all, but ada still has the argument of safety and stability.
>non-history preserving consensus. i.e., if a 0 day exploit on VM-layer wipe out DAG storage, there is no longest chain rule to restore consensus state
>nakamoto consensus + recursive snark BTFO avax scaling to infinity
>actors colluding 20% of avax staking power can put Tx on hold indefinitely (not as censorship resistant as nakamoto)
>validator IPs are explicitly locked with staking power, possible issue regarding privacy and real life attacks

[Anonymous No.28127432]

>>28123733
uhh no it's not, and not even close to ATH which happened in... wait this can't be right... 2017 :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD FUCK OFF PAJEET and your SHITCOIN:DDDDDD

[Anonymous No.28127595]

>>28127322
jury is still out about that. you'll find most life-sensitive applications are in fact not written in highly abstract languages like haskell.

[Anonymous No.28128291]

>>28127595
It's not wrong since most devs rn have more confidence on simple byte-code. But if it proves itself less error-prone on large-scale dapps, and if it works well with formal spec verification, this might be the best tool. Eventually, an easy way for devs to collaborate on complicated dapps will be required and it's the best in this regard.

[Anonymous No.28128890]

ADA many rock, BTC few rock

[Anonymous No.28129338]

>>28127432

lol what's with all the faggots posting emojis on /biz/ recently it's like we've been inundated with smoothbrain redditposters since the wsb faggots got their hour in the limelight. You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.28129405]

>>28128291
lazy evaluation in haskell is a source of many unexpected issues though. its not quite as purely functional as you might believe. there are much more modern and safer functional languages out there. haskell was clearly chosen due to familiarity not for technical prowess.

[Anonymous No.28129496]

>>28129338
Where is biz I heard about that all the time but I dont find it in google

[Anonymous No.28129686]

WOW. Check this out. The ERC-20 Converter and Token Creator. Unbelievably slick and easy. Hot damn this is cool:
>Timestamp 10:20
>https://youtu.be/e_C90pUrfKs?t=620
>https://youtu.be/e_C90pUrfKs?t=620
>https://youtu.be/e_C90pUrfKs?t=620

[Anonymous No.28129773]

why doesn't anyone else but Charles shill this shit?

[Anonymous No.28130099]

>>28129773
>this thread

or do you mean investors? probably because its already 20 billion marketcap, best case relative gains puts it at 10x against ethereum, much better money available in defi shitcoins if you're interested in shilling your bags in the media

[Anonymous No.28130115]

>>28129773
what rock have you been living under? although I wouldn't call these shilling....
>https://youtu.be/DKkm0oxBDes
>https://youtu.be/UnWGzJRnjhs
>https://youtu.be/fIGNoqeiLD0
tons of youtube guys cover it

[Anonymous No.28130353]

>>28130099
best case is probably 10x against USD (this year). more likely just to $5. Long term with billion daily users trillion marketcap. Even a few percentage of that puts it above BTC.

[Anonymous No.28130661]

>>28119836
>working smart-contract on testnet
not mainnet dont care
>best decentralized algorithmic stablecoin (AgeUSD)
says who
>most appropriate platform for dapps handling large amount of coins
by 'most appropriate' you mean has none?
>literally no shiny toy features, only serious financial usages
literally no features, serious or otherwise
>>28123630
were you on acid while reading? thats not what cardano is trying (read: trying and failing) to do at all

[Anonymous No.28130694]

>>28115609
STOP COMPARING TO ETH THATS LIKE ETH COMPARING TO BTC

This fraud should be comparing to other 3rd gen like Avax and Algo but he doesn't. Do you know why? Because they are better than Ada in every single way ANDA they already work/aren't in perpetual centralized testnet.

[Anonymous No.28130764]

>>28115609
then something better will come and ADA will never get big enough
BTC and Eth are just speculative assets at this point

[Anonymous No.28130855]

>>28130661
you want some salt with that salt anon?

[Anonymous No.28130917]

>>28123203
Fucking liar, what are you, 53?

[Anonymous No.28131105]

>>28130917
>53 year olds don't hold crypto
okay anon

[Anonymous No.28131147]

>>28120536
Not stale naan, Fresh naan jaldi jaldi Pajeet.

[Anonymous No.28131632]

>>28115609
I hold a ton of ada still i wish chuck would stop worrying about shit talking eth & just get fucking cracking

[Anonymous No.28131769]

>>28130694
This.
ADA holders are trying to take down ETH while better projects quietly passes them by.
Absolute mongs.

[Anonymous No.28131846]

>>28131632
>just get fucking cracking
he's a workaholic anon, I for one enjoy his shitposting. most of the time he's just answering questions.
>https://youtu.be/hA1CLEGvZgM
>https://youtu.be/hA1CLEGvZgM
>https://youtu.be/hA1CLEGvZgM

[Anonymous No.28131853]

>>28131632
The dumbass has a personal grudge or some shit against vitalik. Guys just salty as fuck eth is so much more successful right now.

[Anonymous No.28131963]

>>28130694
Charles talks positively about Algo and AVAX and he addresses their weaknesses here and there. Fact is ETH is the gorilla in the ring that everyone is watching and aiming beyond. I do notice that AVAX "chads" are obsessed with Cardano though. I smell fear

[Anonymous No.28132218]

>>28129405
Ada VM supports all programming language. As an early initial implementation, it still makes sense even considering its popularity, even if Haskell isn't perfectly fitting.
>lazy evaluation in haskell is a source of many unexpected issues though
Not sure if this even applies considering ada have a more specific compilation pipeline.
https://iohk.io/en/blog/posts/2021/02/02/plutus-tx-compiling-haskell-into-plutus-core/
>there are much more modern and safer functional languages out there
Which one? OCaml, Erlang, ...? Tezos uses its own called Michelson, but I think haskell is still decent in this usage. Even if the default compiled code might generated a copious amount of memory GC.

[Anonymous No.28132560]

>>28131853
>imagine having muny skelly living rent free in your head laughing at you & wagging his autistic ballbag in your face 24/7
kek

[Anonymous No.28132760]

>>28131853
because he got kicked out of ethereum

[Anonymous No.28132968]

>>28115713
I love paying $14 to withdraw an ERC-20 token from Binance.

[Anonymous No.28133007]

>>28120536
With one click of the ERC converter those developers will have been developing on Cardano without even realizing. Kek.

[Anonymous No.28133043]

>>28132760
does anyone know details? what about dr pedodot wood?
did they leave on their own on good terms or did vitalik have a 'hot water burn the baby' meltdown

[Anonymous No.28133106]

>>28130661
>not mainnet dont care
never in my life have i read anything more based

[Anonymous No.28133301]

>>28121398
lol centralized shitcoin with less TPs on smartcontracts than anything else

[Anonymous No.28133380]

>>28124030
no he's right

[Anonymous No.28133567]

Is it possible to be a Chad and work in this industry? Or did you need to spend your teenage years in your bedroom playing video games and not having sex.

[Anonymous No.28133580]

>>28131963
>>28132560
>>28132760
Charles isn't the salty one, which you guys clearly don't know because you don't watch his videos. You can't blame him for pushing back on the ignorant flack that gets thrown his way constantly. Lots of ETH bagholders fearful as fuck of Cardano and using Charles as a target to try and save their ETH bags. Vitalik is the one with Charles living rent-free. He's so butthurt that he spergs into Cardano threads here and there (hacker news comes to mind) where he sperges out about how great ETH 2.0 is. Now that's what obsessed looks like. It's really too bad Vitalik doesn't have the courage to "debate" IOHK scientists in person at a conference or even engage them in serious discussion... he only does so in chat rooms where he can use crowds and upboating to his advantage. pretty weak stuff honestly.

[Anonymous No.28133727]

>>28133380
no, he's not right, but it is understandable why ETH bagholders tell themselves that fantasy fiction.

[Anonymous No.28133807]

>>28122573
>28122573
Celsius Network as well. Ergo will be interoperable with NiPoPoWs and will bring oracles, dex, NFTs, mixers and stablecoin

[Anonymous No.28134593]

>>28133727
he is, its not about tech or whatever, its all about adoption
you'd think people would be fucking begging to move to another eth
but its not like that, eth isn't going anywhere unless it fails in a MASSIVE way.

[Anonymous No.28134830]

>>28134593
ETH doesn't have very much adoption. just test usecases and early experimentation with shitcode on a slow crappy network. watch the messari interview with charles because he BTFOs that narrative to kingdom come

[Anonymous No.28134926]

>>28133807
this is a big one. Celsius is bleeding cash to the tune of millions of dollars a year on ETH transaction fees

[Anonymous No.28135201]

>>28134830
>ETH doesn't have very much adoption.
if i were to show you a qr code you'd instnatly assume its a eth address.
thats adoption. and no one will take that away from eth unless eth fails
I know, retard, i also dont like that, but thats how it is on this bitch of an earth

[Anonymous No.28135435]

>>28134593
>it's all about adoption
This anon gets it

Hit the third world as a test bed and grow from there.

[Anonymous No.28135768]

>>28131632
trying to compete directly against ETH is retarded IMO
I hold ada but Charles needs to pick his battles more carefully.
Still fully expecting solid returns this year

[Anonymous No.28135942]

>>28135201
actually i wouldn't. and okay, if i must find the video for you I will.
... here you go. refute the opener if you can.
>https://youtu.be/GJANeEkj408

[Anonymous No.28136004]

>>28135942
see >>28115713

[Anonymous No.28136083]

>>28135768
He's said many times it's not about ETH.
Sure he has some baggage with ETH but that's not his end goal. I'm sure he'd love it if it did replace it though.

[Anonymous No.28136171]

>>28123336
These were my exact thoughts when EOS pumped in 2018. Very similar vibes here. I am still holding those bags 3 years later.

>This time will be different.

[Anonymous No.28136382]

>>28136004
not an argument. can't even engage. impressive.

[Anonymous No.28136450]

>>28136083
You make solid points there

[Anonymous No.28136512]

>>28124030

Yeah these bags are so heavy right now, 40 ETH @ 280usd, see you at ADA@1.5usd in 6 months, like EOS, Tezos before you.

[Anonymous No.28136515]

>>28136171
>comparing Cardano to EOS
the absolute state

[Anonymous No.28136579]

>>28136382
his life work depends on that to be true, so of fucking course he's going to say "yeah, what i think is true!"

[Anonymous No.28136802]

>>28120536
kek. you can copy paste your solidity smart contracts into cardano and it will run on cardano.you are one of those jeet programmers that know some javascript kek.

[Anonymous No.28136825]

>>28136579
he made particular points and you're avoiding them entirely because he's correct.

[Anonymous No.28136903]

>>28136515
>This time will be different

[Anonymous No.28137057]

Lmao, the children are arguing again. How cute.

[Anonymous No.28137200]

>>28122573
Yes, that faggot scammer. (((Gordzel))).

[Anonymous No.28137280]

>>28136903
>Comparing Cardano to EOS
the absolute state

[Anonymous No.28137457]

>>28137200
he's a literal 500 IQ genius and is bring a Narrow AI marketplace that will power dapps and applications that take part in replacing 60%- of global human jobs in the next 15 years... to Cardano. Trillions of transactions on SingularityNet. Eth Bagholders are just salty is all.

[Anonymous No.28137864]

>>28137457
Actual ML engineer here. If you think any company is going to run their precious data pipelines and models on a Blockchain and pay a premium to do it you're mistaken.

I know it's extremely unlikely ADA bulls have ever done market research but even a first glance at the current AI market should point you to a complete lack of demand for decentralisation.

[Anonymous No.28138662]

>>28130694
he's talked positively about algo nigger

[Anonymous No.28139012]

>>28115871
there's an entire new generation of bagholders coming into crypto for the first time

[Anonymous No.28139382]

would love to see a debate between Vitalik and this obvious scam artist, Vitalik would destroy him so bad you pajeets couldn't let go of your ADA
shitcoin fast enough