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27882783 No.27882783 [Reply] [Original]

Take a look at pic related.

As you can see the top 2 CEXs (Binance and Coinbase) have their highest volume in bitcoin. Now there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in volume when looking at the TOP 4 CEXs. Binance completely fucks the other 3 when it comes to volume.

Binance at RANK 1 has over 22 BILLION daily volume. That's over 5x the amount of the RANK 2 CEX Coinbase (4.9 billion). Rank 3 (Kraken) is close to 2 billion and Rank 4 (Bitfinex) is only at 1.3 billion.

Now take at look at the 'DEXs'. Not a single 'DEX' can trade real bitcoin. Uniswaps highest pair changes everyday (which ever daily shitcoin is pumping) and Sushiswap has WBTC. 1inch has USDT/ETH as their highest pair which isn't too surprising considering how much volume ETH gets on the TOP 4 CEXs

So the real question is; Which/What 'DEX' will be FIRST to be able to trade REAL BITCOIN with high volume (scaling) against ETH. Whichever 'DEX' comes first with scaling and the ability to trade real BTC/ETH will win the 'Dex war'.

>> No.27883039

Prob binance smart chain?

>> No.27883063

Unironically ripple has a massive dexrpl.can move millions of bitcoin per second. A few weeks ago moved over 5 millionusd per second through its dex while gold, silver, xlm, other cryptos, thousands of yuan, thousands of euros simultaneously moved through its dex per second. It was just another day of stress testing at ripplenet dex.

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>>27882783
Bump for interest. I'm sick of all the stocks/shitcoin threads. The pajeets are taking advantage of the plebbit fags/newfags.

>> No.27883164

>>27883063
Ohthe 5 million per second went on for about 24hours. A cool few billion in usd alone moved through its dex alongside other assets. Just another day yawn

>> No.27883365

>>27883039
>Prob binance smart chain?
Anon you do understand what a 'Dex' is right? Is BSC a 'dex' or have a 'dex'? I don't know muc about it.
>>27883063
>>27883164
Ripple is a centralised jew coin. Explain to me how it's 'dex' works and provide source of your claims.
>>27883132
Oh a subtitle xsn shill. While it seems like it's on right track i want this thread to be more of a discussion.

>> No.27883512

INJ will implement a Bitcoin bridge in the future.

>> No.27883572

>>27883512
Tell me more about this bridge. When is 'the future', does this bridge allow for cross-chain trading between eth/btc? Is it native bitcoin? What about scaling/gas fees?

>> No.27883729

>>27883365
Dexrpl types into google. Look at past transactions. There is no such thing as a decentralized financial exchange. It is all centralized to benefit the jew.

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>>27883729
>There is no such thing as a decentralized financial exchange
>It is all centralized to benefit the jew.
Your opinion has been discarded kike. No need to do research on your 'dexrpl' when you say something like this.

>> No.27884048
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>>27883365
Stakenet (XSN) is the only project that has working lightning swaps. And they are currently testing connext to get BTC/ETH swaps stable and reliable. You won't find a single other project that has this tech. Stakenet will win the dex race, and faggots like >>27883729 will rope for buying centralised garbage or onchain shitcoins that can't scale or trade native (real) Bitcoin. Every single other project say they'll do it in 'the future', stakenet has already done btc and is doing eth now. These other projects are 2-3 years behind in tech.

>> No.27884490

>>27884048
>Stakenet (XSN) is the only project that has working lightning swaps.
Interesting claim. If true that puts stakenet ahead of the competition. But there are a lot of projects in crypto so there may be some hidden gems in the works.
>they are currently testing connext to get BTC/ETH swaps stable and reliable.
Is there any word on how long this will take?
>Every single other project say they'll do it in 'the future'
True, this anon >>27883512 proves your point but again i'm unsure what hidden projects there are, crypto is a big space.
>These other projects are 2-3 years behind in tech.
I guess that depends on how difficult is it to integrate the lightning network.

>> No.27884556

>>27883817
If one werr from say the ashkenazi clan of the 13th jew tribe were to dangle puppet strings from a puppets tool itd look exactly like a swastika. Hitler was a kike like trump. You played yourself and the game has stopped. Germany just needed a federal reserve bank that's all it was. Folks fell for the hitler meme even then. The guy practically built israel and did the classic suicide with no one to see and no evidence just like bin laden, Epstein, etc. I love it when people who cant pay attention to obvious repeated patterns fail miserably at their own insults.

>> No.27884633

Rubic will solve this.

>> No.27884701

>>27884556
You're sucking dead jew puppet dick and you actually think your opinion on finance matters because hitler was a good guy Haha hahahahahahahaha
It's the classic blunder for the last fifteen thousand years. Older than rome.

>> No.27884788

>>27884556
Nigger we are talking about DEXs here.
>>27884633
>rubic
No, rubic is a uniswap clone. Also the fact that you pajeets spam this shit on /biz/ constantly has kept me away. I'm not here for the short term profits of a pump and dump. I'm here for the tech that will win the DEX war and rubic is a shitcoin.
>there is literally 10 rubic threads up right now
Smells like curry.

>> No.27884858

>>27884788
It's not a shitcoin, but I was clearly memeing. Be kept away, it doesn't matter.

>> No.27885097

>>27884490
>But there are a lot of projects in crypto so there may be some hidden gems in the works.
Stakenet is the hidden gem. You won't find another project with a working demo. Stakenet has been in open beta for months.
>Is there any word on how long this will take?
It's been confirmed that the Dex will enter full public release with stage 2 Prometheus before the end of Q1. So less than 8 weeks. Probs less than 4 weeks for the eth testing.
>I guess that depends on how difficult is it to integrate the lightning network.
It's much harder than you may believe. Stakenet spent several years building this tech from the ground up. If any other project wants to do it they'll have to spend at least a few years.

>> No.27885200

>>27884858
>Came out of nowhere
>Always at least 10 threads at once
>Claims to fix all the dex problems
>Not a shitcoin
Shoo shoo pajeet. You didn't even explain why you think rubic would be the dex.

>> No.27885656

>>27882783
none. DEXes only work with tokens issued on the same blockchain. Like ETH and all the ERC20s. BTC being on its own boomerchain makes it isolated and unable to properly interact with DEXes, DeFi loaning, and so on. That's the whole reason people use WBTC as a cope.

>> No.27885825

>>27882783
thorchain already has native BTC swaps its the standard you missed the 10-200x but u can still get in for the ride anon

>> No.27885965

>>27885825
the guy who memed thorchain literally got hired by delphi digital, audited by gauntlet, partnership with sushi, backed by binance, FTX, its literally the standard for deep liquidity cross chain swaps

>> No.27887164

>>27885965
u can literally swap native BTC for native eth now gg
https://thorchain.community/
$68-100 rune is inevitable

>> No.27887582

>>27885656
Your post is 100% cope. Stakenet has already done btc to eth trades on their dex. They bridge blockchains with layer 2.

>> No.27887718

>>27882783
OP please don't tell them I'm waiting for verification to clear so I can buy some
I want it so fucking bad it keeps me up at night

>> No.27887747

>>27885825
>>27885965
>>27887164
>sidechains
Into the trash it goes

>> No.27887802

>>27887747
nope not a side chain lol

>> No.27887958

>>27887747
its literally just a better audited version of stake net ran with a similar node structure, the token itself is used as an incentive for deep liquidity and lets everyone participate in the fee structure if they cant afford to operate a node (which theyre priced out of now used to be 2k now over 3 mill)

>> No.27888018

>>27887958
20k*

>> No.27888050

LCX!

>> No.27888095
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>>27883365
>asks for "proof" of claim of XRPL having a tits mcgee dex fucking built into the goddamn ledger....
>Capable of trading ANY FUCKING TOKENIZED ASSET FROM REAL ESTATE TO GOD DAMN OIL RIGS TO SHITCOINS with cheap tx costs and txs that happen in seconds.

Anon probably also didn't do his own research and doesn't know about Flare.

Anon is NGMI.

>> No.27888349

I’m a dumb dumb, doesn’t Ren already solve this?

>> No.27888390
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27888390

some of you guys are alright

>> No.27888392

If you expect a dex to trade real btc then it has to be built on btc. You won’t be able to trade other chains on it though. If you think ETH fees are bad.... Bitcoin is 10x worse. It doesn’t have anywhere near as much transaction volume as ETH though so we don’t see it as much right now

>> No.27888553
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dyor

>> No.27888678

XSN is probably going to be it. It gets fudded like crazy but it’s unironically worth researching

>> No.27888693

https://tdxp.app/market/

>> No.27889060

well /biz/ has spoken:
Thorchain blows XSN out of the water.

>> No.27889230

>>27888390
literally thorchain already working and audited, already partnered and vested with some of the external exchanges to be aggregators, backed by the same people who worked on aave lmao, already getting institutional investment stakenet is basically the coinmetro of crosschain dex's

>> No.27889364

>>27889230
Does it have kyc

>> No.27889396

>>27889364
nope

>> No.27889643

>>27889230
Thorchain is pajeet tier. Why else would they have 'sir' all over their website

>> No.27889775
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>>27885097
Guess we'll see within 8 weeks what happens. So far I haven't found any other layer 2 dexs.
>>27885656
This is bait.
>>27885825
>>27885965
>>27887164
>>27887802
>>27887958
>>27888018
I found their website....pic related. I don't think this project is what i'm looking for. Are you a pajeet?
>>27887718
>OP please don't tell them
???????????
>>27888050
You are just as bad as the rubic pajeet. One word response..
>>27888095
>ignoring the other posts
Kys kike.
>>27888349
No ren uses wrapped btc.

>> No.27889834

>>27889643
the devs are based and browse 4chan

>> No.27889988

>>27889834
So can you actually download their DEX? Or is it on a webpage?

>> No.27890086

>>27889775
>literally already a superior version of stakenet and front runner for being a bluechip
>not for me
https://youtu.be/VEqHk12eHUA

stakenet is basically the coinmetro/lcx of crosschain cope harder

>> No.27890094

>>27888392
>If you expect a dex to trade real btc then it has to be built on btc. You won’t be able to trade other chains on it though.
Completely wrong. Why do you think I made this thread? I'm looking for dex solutions that bridge blockchains. So far ITT
>Stakenet
Used layer 2 to bridge BTC to eth, has a working product (open beta, lightning atm) with connext being worked on.
>Rubic
Got a 1 word response + it came from no where and gets spammed on /biz/ with 10 threads constantly active.
>Thorchain
Literally used the word "sir" in their website - huge red flag
>LCX
One word response. Similar to rubic, came from no where but not spammed as much.
>If you think ETH fees are bad.... Bitcoin is 10x worse.
So the dex will need to either use layer 2 or rollups of some sort.
>It doesn’t have anywhere near as much transaction volume as ETH though so we don’t see it as much right now
Apples vs oranges, eth can do smart contracts not to mention people have built dapps on eth. However bitcoin/usdt is still the highest traded pair in crypto by far.

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27890127

>>27889775
i did not post ren, I posted StakeNet.

>> No.27890252

>>27888693
>link but no explanation
At least try to shill me your 'dex'. Put some effort into it, i did when i made this thread so i have the same expectations of everyone else in my thread.
>>27889060
How did you come to that conclusion, seems like a pajeet tier thing to say considering there hasn't been much discussion ITT of thor vs xsn. Also
>1 post by this
>>27889230
Explain how thorchain works please. How does it connect BTC to ETH for native BTC/ETH trading. Also it says that RUNE is a erc20 token.

>> No.27890297

>>27890086
So are you going to answer my question or are you avoiding it?

>> No.27890348

>>27889988
you dont have to download anything if you dont want to its totally decentralized but you can interact with it with multiple wallets
https://runebridge.org/
https://bepswap.com/
https://sushiswap.fi/

>> No.27890367

>>27890252
Read the page. It's ON the BSV blockchain

>> No.27890378

kek this boy still eats this trash
so mad to check this shilling about bots and algo’s that you made here
smart fish wait for bot ocean presale finish and trade with bots on dex and cex launch
>as u got I am smart and not a sucker like this niggers

>> No.27890431

>>27890348
How is that decentralized then? It's using centralised services. Its not a DEX.

>> No.27890494

>>27890431
LOLLLL
bro its an asset bridge of course its using them

>> No.27890545

>>27889834
If the devs based their website/dex around 4chan then im worried. Kleros went too far with the pajeet memes now no one takes it seriously.
>>27890086
>literally already a superior version of stakenet and front runner for being a bluechip
How is it superior to stakenet? Can do explain to me the tech, I am finding their website hard to navigate.
>not for me
This was because of the literal pajeet words on their website.
>>27890127
Reread my post i didn't respond to you
>>27890367
Anon linking me to a website with no explanation isn't helpful.
>BSV
Anon I
>>27890378
>namefag
Fuck off.
>>27890494
>DEX
>centralised
????? What?

>> No.27890567

>>27890494
So it's not a DEX

>> No.27890638

>>27890545
https://youtu.be/KEkwMvLN6yM

>> No.27890772

>>27890638
>30 minutes
Anon please give an explanation, im not watching a 30 minute video.

Could you tell me, is thorchain decentralised or not?
>>27890431
>>27890494
From these two posts I can infer that thorchain is not a 'dex'.

>> No.27890850

>>27887718
>don't tell them
We gave you over two whole years... how is it taking you this long to accumulate?
Don't be greedy, anon.

>> No.27890860

>>27890494
So it's not a dex. And you claim that it's superior to stakenet. Get the fuck out if here cunt. Where has thorchain been the last fucking year? You're full of shit.

>> No.27890870

>>27890567
it's an elaborate complex spending criteria its literally better than a dex

>> No.27890910
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27890910

>>27890870
>it's an elaborate complex spending criteria its literally better than a dex
>not a dex
>better than a dex
Ok pajeet confirmed.

>> No.27890937
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>>27890870
> Centralized
> "Literally better than a DEX"

>> No.27890963

>>27890937
Kek nice pic.

>> No.27890990

>>27890378
Dat ESL

>> No.27891086

Ok so i just did some quick research on thorchain if anyway is wondering. It uses binance chain, so it's the same shit as rubic.

>> No.27891093

When do we get to have the thread where we finally let normies figure out what this thing does instead of just circlejerking, LARPing and gatekeeping Stakenet?

>> No.27891122

>>27891093
Oh shit nice ID
>HODL

>> No.27891214
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>>27891093
Nu/biz/ is clearly fucking retarded. Just look at the state of the board.

>> No.27891268

>>27890860
there are already multiple dex's using thorchain BEPswap exclusively
its literally better than a dex for example all $alpha on sushiswap is being routed through thorchain now

>> No.27891324

>>27890937
its not centralized lmao
but whatever youve been warned
im making over $500 a day just through fees based on volume i had a choice between thorchan and stakenet i obviously made the right choice dyor

>> No.27891343

>>27884633
>>27884788
>>27885200
>>27889988
>>27891122
Nice digits
>>27891214
Not wrong, it's been especially worse after the WSB shit.
>>27891268
>there are already multiple dex's using thorchain BEPswap exclusively
Like who? Even then it's still using binance chain. Even then thorchain still isn't a fucking dex.
>>27891324
>its not centraslied
>of course its centraslied
Please fuck off.

>> No.27891423

>>27888678
should i put 10k into XSN?

>> No.27891436

>>27891343
coping stakenet bagholder
choosing a coinmetro tier dex over the future of finance
ngmi
ngmi

>> No.27891459

>>27890870
>>27891268
>>27891324
Holy cope. Get the fuck off /biz/ you fucking retard.
>>>27891093
Normies will learn after dex release. Right now /biz/lets need to think for themselves. Instead they buy shit like rubic.

>> No.27891488
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27891488

>>27889775
They are asking you to deposit Your coins in THEIR wallet for a yield.

WHAT could possibly go wrong?

>> No.27891544
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27891544

>>27888390
>>27888553
>>27888678
>>27890127
>>27891093
Based xsn chads.

>> No.27891628

>>27890850
Just found out this week

>> No.27891629

>>27891343
by that logic stakenet is centralized because the aggregators utilize larger centralized exchanges
it links all the chains bepswap is for the binance chain lmao

>> No.27891678

>>27891423
Anon read through the thread, DYOR and decide for yourself.
>>27891436
>calls me a bag holder
When did I say I chose stakenet? I made a thread about DEXs, you decided to shit my thread up with thorchain which isn't even a dex. You have made contradictory statements multiple times. As it turns out thorchain isn't even a dex. Why would I use thorchain, their own website unironically uses the word 'sir' multiple tmes.

>> No.27891708
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>>27891544
check'd. There's so much StakeNet is doing it's exhausting to keep it all in mind at once. Only project that scales, and functions at this level. Anyone with a MasterNode is gonna make it.

>> No.27891712

>>27891423
Dyor. It’s not something you’re going to want to dump if you can put a lot into it

>> No.27891755

>>27891423
Yes but always research and understand where you are putting your money.
>>27891544
Checked.
>>27891629
Cope and rope faggot

>> No.27891819

>>27891488
Is this regarding thorchain?
>>27891629
Wtf are you on? An aggregator isn't a dex.

>> No.27891925

>>27891423
Yes. Try to get at least 1 masternode and always dyor. Don't be a retard.
>>27891488
>>27891544
>>27891755
Checked.
>>27891628
You have less than 8 weeks.
>>27891708
Based. It's amazing how /biz/ is sleeping on this project.

>> No.27891931

>>27891678
it already has dex's developed for it BEPswap has already had 2 billion in volume and its literally just the binance chains bro its a native asset spending criteria that uses decentralized nodes

>> No.27892004
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27892004

if you know, you know.

>> No.27892023

>>27891931
Fuck off. You write like someone pretending to be smart and know what they are talking about, instead it just makes you come off like some sort of spastic. You said earlier it was a dex, then you said it wasnt a dex. Now you are saying it's a dex again.

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27892127

>>27891931
If it really had 2 billion in volume it would be rank 1 on coingecko in the dex section. Instead it's not even there. Get the fuck out of my thread nigger.

>> No.27892201

>>27892023
stay poor my 1%daily is more than your entire stack just warning fellow bizbros stakenet is basically coinmetro tier and there are way better projects

>> No.27892204
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27892204

>>27890990
fucking kek

>>27891093
You can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink. There is always going to be pajeets making their own projects with more grandiose promises. Normies will almost always go for the flashy website with crazy promises.

>>27891343
XSN also has LTC-BTC working as well. The inclusion of connext also allows for ERC-20 token swaps on the dex. This is why it keeps being said XSN is so far ahead of the competition in regards to true dex's.

>> No.27892258

>>27892127
2billion total volume averaging 15 million daily from just binance chain swaps

>> No.27892459

>>27892201
Cool provide a source on your claims thanks. Otherwise you are just a pajeet tier retard making shit up. At least the stakenet shills can backup their claims.
>>27892204
Honestly it seems like stakenet has their shit sorted out but what's surprising is the lack of competition. I absolutely cannot find a single other project that claims to have working lightning swaps. Also these fucking pajeets in my thread with their shitcoins and not providing any fucking information on them pisses me off.
>>27892258
So it's binance volume no thorchain.

>> No.27892609

>>27892459
brainlet
its binance chain swaps THROUGH thorchain on a thorchain dex using native assets its a spending critera i cant spoon feed you anymore
i would dunk on you but thats just bad opsec

>> No.27892714

>>27882783
XSN

>> No.27892747

>>27892609
Lol no it's not, prove to me that these swaps are going through thorchain. Binance has no need to use thorchain.
>a thorchain dex
Not a dex retard.
>i cant spoon feed you anymore
You never even provided any information to begin with.
>>27892714
Anything to add? Not just a one word response.

>> No.27892801
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27892801

>>27892609
> DEX
it's not a DEX so stop saying it is.

>> No.27892825

>>27892747
https://chaosnet.bepswap.com/
lmfao

>> No.27892943
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27892943

Any other Node Warriors?

>> No.27892951

>>27892825
>link with no explanation
>lmao
Not looking good.

>> No.27893022

>>27892825
> Sends a link to a 'DEX' on centralized services
How many times do we have to tell you old man

>> No.27893107

>>27893022
This might actually still be a decent competitor retard.

A lot of people don't care abotu wrapped assets or just using some random website as seen by uniswap.

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27893151

>>27892459
Someone else made this same point but just glossed over it. It wouldn't just take any other dev team a few years to catch up to XSN. It would also take a very passionate team that is aware of, and willing, to create said system in spite of the fact that they'd miss out on life changing wealth.

>>27892943
1MN. Was like >>27887718 for a solid 6 months while I accumulated. At one point there I was priced out momentarily until it dipped back down. If it weren't for this dip I'd have been priced out for life...

>>27893107
ITS NOT A FUCKING DEX MIDWIT.

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27893160

>>27882783
We all know the answer

>> No.27893230

>>27893107
How is it a decent competitor anon? Can you please explain for me. I spent some effort making this thread but the thorchain retard doesn't explain anything, their website has 'sir' all over it, and it's not even a 'dex'.
>>27893151
Neet, but didn't bitfinex on their podcast say they want kyc on their 'dex'? Or something like that.
>>27893160
wtf

>> No.27893317
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27893317

friendly reminder

>> No.27893342

>>27893107
> Alot of people don't care about wrapped assets and random websites
That's where you are wrong
>>27893160
I don't understand this meme what am I looking at

>> No.27893421

>>27893342
I hope I'm wrong I have 2 MNs
Fees are gonna be ass on Stinknet as well. It is only good for HFTs. Full stack swaps aren't cheaper than uniswap.

>>27893230
I have no in depth knowledge of thorchain. Sorry. I just hate the indoctrinated fanboyism of most MN holders.Really seems like a lot of people especially on the discord married the project.

>> No.27893541

>>27893421
>I have no in depth knowledge of thorchain
Nether do i but from that poster and they're website I've come to the conclusion that it's a scam/shitcoin.

>> No.27893653

>>27882783
this is a very elaborate xsn shill isn't it?

I'm into it. someone post the mcwagie link

>> No.27893665

>>27893421
> Fees are going to be ass on Stinknet
Nope. The whole point of XSN is making it virtually fee-less

>> No.27893675

>>27893317
Apparently not. Bitfinex latest podcast said they want a dex with kyc so probs wont be xsn. But maybe they'll provide liquidity who knows, we shall see.
>>27893421
>Fees on stakenet
What fees? You can deposit straight from layer 1 to layer 2 with connext. Btc fees will disappear with submarine swaps.

>> No.27893677

lcx

>> No.27893705
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pic related is inevitable. xsn right now has early eth and early link vibes. especially with the passion in the shills and fudders, same shit different coin. bullish.

>> No.27893757

>>27893653
Maybe but why can't we have a proper discussion about DEXs? Because there is NO OTHER true DEX. Nothing comes close to Stakenet

>> No.27893778

>>27893677
>1 post by this id
You are the second lcx shill to make a single word response on my thread. Or maybe you are the same person. Please provide information on lcx.
>>27893675
>You can deposit straight from layer 1 to layer 2 with connext
If that's true then uniswap is done.
>Btc fees will disappear with submarine swaps.
Any eta on submarine swaps?

>> No.27893807

>>27893677
Checked. Elaborate please.

>> No.27893818
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27893818

Hello, I am a no-coin retard who has stumbled across this thread and now I'm intrigued. Since I am mentally challenged, most of this is over my head. But if a fellow /biz/ fren with an extra chromosome wants to support this in the simplest way possible, how do I go about doing that?

>> No.27893850

>>27893022
bro i cant help u
bepswap is just one dex/route obv the assets on bepswap are centralized because theyre just pegged binance issued tokens, the swaps on bepswap are literally for just the binance chains alone and all of the fees go to rune holders, but u can already do swaps on native BTC to ethereum or BEP2 through the runebridge it does native chain swaps for BTC, ETH, cosmos, dot etc i posted an in depth explanation in that video but im not even posting this info for you moreso other anons so they dont get rekt with opportunity loss buying stakenet,lcx and coinmetro.

>> No.27893873

>>27893818
what do you want to support exactly

>> No.27893914

>>27893665
>>27893675
>You can deposit straight from layer 1 to layer 2 with connext
Really? I thought that it would have onchain fees out the ass similar to BTC. Like everytime you open/rent a channel you pay onchain fees for opening or closing the rented channel later. As well as everytime you make any gains your channel isn't big enough to handle it and needing to rent more

>> No.27893922

>>27882783
>dex
>"REAL btc"

um it's called AAVE you idiot

>> No.27893950

>>27893818
Welcome anon, please be advised that you should always DYOR (do your own research) and literal shitskins shill scam on this board.

>wants to support this in the simplest way possible
What do you mean exactly. The reason i made this thread is because crypto has several key problems. One is of them is the oracle problem which is being solved by Chainlink. The other is the 'DEX' problem which i why i made this thread, see what /biz/ has to say on the current 'dex' situation.

>> No.27893996

>>27893850
and no the volume is BEP2 tokens OFF of binance through thorchain

>> No.27894081

>>27893850
>all of the fees go to rune holders
Wouldn't the fees go to BNB holders? It makes no sense to use some random shitcoin for their swaps when they have their own service.
>u can already do swaps on native BTC to ethereum
If there were true thorchain would be the ranked 1 dex on coingecko.
>i posted an in depth explanation in that video
You posted a fucking 30 minute video with no text explanation, you're full of shit.
>coinmetro
You are the only person in this thread that has mentioned coinmetro.

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>>27883132
>>27884048
>>27887582
>>27888390
>>27888553
>>27888678
>>27890860
>>27890850
>>27891628
>>27891925
>>27891093
>>27891712
>>27891544
>>27891708
>>27891755
>>27892004
>>27892714
>>27892943
>>27893160
>>27893317
Okay seriously, now that we're all here guys. Where the fuck are you guys when I've made threads in the past. I KNOW FOR A FACT ITS YOU FUCKERS PoSW POSTING AND FUDDING. Lets all just agree we're too close to launch anyways and start making OC.

>>27893653
https://stakenetmasternodecalculator.web.app/wage
https://stakenetmasternodecalculator.web.app/labz

>>27893778
Well now that the cats out of the bag. Yeah looks like with connext layer 1 -> 2 is looking to be feeless. Uniswap is almost certainly going to get most of its liquidity sucked up within 6 months of the dex going live. As long as they have a successful launch of course.

>>27893914
Its looking like connext will just be able to use your funds directly. Otherwise yeah, without anything similar to rollups onchain fees would have been insane.

>> No.27894205

>>27882783
bifi

>> No.27894253

>>27893922
>Aave
>dex
Aave isn't a dex, it's a lending platform and does not support real BTC.
>>27894085
>https://stakenetmasternodecalculator.web.app/laLmao wtf.
>Yeah looks like with connext layer 1 -> 2 is looking to be feeless
Can you provide any technical info on this? I don't understand connext that well.
>>27894205
>1 word response
Anon please, put in some effort to explain.

>> No.27894267

>>27894085
Well I don't think it will eat uniswap since there is a bunch of connext work needing to be done for each token to be added to L2 iirc. So no uniswap scams and the DEX will only slowly grow with tokens

>> No.27894421

>>27894085
I always try to post in the generals when someone makes one

>> No.27894478

>>27893818
What?
>>27893850
Kys
>>27893914
Apparently connext is fucking magic. I'm not too sure on the technicals but ill get to test it soon. The next update in the closed beta...
>>27893922
>Aave
>Dex
Pick one.
>>27894085
>https://stakenetmasternodecalculator.web.app/labz
Holy kek.
>>27894267
You do realise that BTC/USDT is the biggest pair in crypto? With over 44 BILLION Daily trading volume. If stakenet even gets 1% of that it will become the 2nd ranked DEX from that volume alone.

>> No.27894480

>>27894081
why would it be rank 1? coingecko wouldnt have the analytics tools to assess that since its on chain, it jumped to rank 50 in the last week, like i said backed by binance, sushiswap, same people who developed aave, audited by guantlet, youve been warned its already a paradigm shift ahead of stakenet

>> No.27894567

>>27894478
Then don't make the argument that it will eat Uniswap if your argument is about BTC/USDT
Uniswap became popular because of ETH/USDT / SHITCOINs. It might have a large ETH/USDT volume now though

>> No.27894823

>>27894567
Im not the guy who said it'll eat uniswap because uniswap is going to get fucking annihilated.
>Eth/usdt
You do realise the dex can do this oair as well? The btc/usdt is only one pair
Stakenet dex already has 4/5 top coins by volume.
>Btc
>Usdt
>Eth
>Ltc
Just no xrp atm. The shitcoin volume on uniswal wont even be comparable to the amount of volume stakenet will get from the major coins alone. Then once hydra comes any masternode will be able to host shitcoins on their orderbook.

>> No.27894826

>>27890086
this may actually be true - thorchain seems like a legit cross-chain swap tool. that said I see three concerns:

1. this appears to be effectively a side chain or layer 1 solution. how does the chain ensure adequate efficiency for assets being provided as liquidity?

2. how do they ensure decentralization/redundancy of coin pairs? seems larger pools would beore efficient so able to offer cheaper pricing on swaps - so how does the chain incentivise competition between nodes, to ensure redundancy and decentralization?

3. how long does it take toove liquidity between pools? how much does it cost to do this? arbitrage does not get more efficient if you're still reliant on eth/btc confirms to move funds between nodes.

>> No.27894908

>>27882783
lol KMD has been doing this since 2017 and no one cares

>> No.27894961

>>27894480
>why would it be rank 1
Btc/eth + Btc/usdt would provide massive volume. Did you seen look at my OP pic related?
>coingecko wouldnt have the analytics tools to assess that since its on chain,
Holy fuck you're retarded.
>backed by binance, sushiswap etc
Source?
>ahead of stakenet
Yet it can't do layer 2 and their website has fucking "SIR' all over it.
>>27894908
Anon kmd is dead. And no it's not 'doing this since 2017' otherwise it wouldn't be 'dead'. Provide proof of what 'it's doing'.

>> No.27895100

>>27894085
don't do the gay generals just post memes and dunk on rbc shills

>> No.27895289

>>27893850
wait. so each exchange node via thorchain has to host its own frontend? is that how I'm to interpret your statement? so while there "could" be multiple exchange nodes tied to thorchain, there's not an easy way to set up your own node and provide resiliency to the network? how does this not lead to centralization?

also, how do I, as a trader, ensure that I'm getting the best price for my trades?

>> No.27895430

>>27894478
I think his point is more that uni will still have the shitcoin thing going for it so it won't die entirely - only major pair liquidity will get vamped by XSN.

this will effectively kill any coin with an eth/usdt pair on uni, but usdc pairs will probably still be ok.

>> No.27895549

>>27894826
sorry im about to log off
https://www.runebalance.com/#/pools re current arb opportunities

thats the whole point of the token itself to reduce the redundancy pairs and pools required

https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Sage
in depth answers to your questions

>> No.27895602

>>27882783
also OP im sorry for being rude and dumping on stakenet if theres no fees it might be useful just also buy a bag of rune

>> No.27895603

>>27893317
>in a few weeks
Been like 4 months now since that was posted

>> No.27895628
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friendly reminder that XSN devs rug pulled PoSW. Not a big deal, I'm sure they'll deliver this time!

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team member shilled XBL (a scam) before XSN.

>> No.27895684

>>27895430
Eh once the dex is on stage 3 hydra any masternode will be able to provide liquidity for shitcoins. Also usdc will probs come to the dex eventually.

The dex may be layer 2 but its not redistricted to it. Meaning they will be ae to do layer 1 swaps as well and possibly layer1/layer2 swaps.

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27895714

team printed 7 million coins for themselves "just because"

>> No.27895815

>>27895628
>>27895676
Please explain how stakenet is a scam.
>>27895714
>we want to propose
>otc sale
>strategic partnership
What's the issue here? Stakenet uses a governance censuses mechanism to 'print' extra coins.

>> No.27895877
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27895877

dumped millions of coins during the Bitfinex listing. It's the hallmark of a great project!

>> No.27895900

>>27895877
Alright calm down labz

>> No.27895912

LOL STILL CRYING ABOUT BTC GROWING

>> No.27895952

>>27895877
Can you actually fuck off, this isn't an xsn shill thread. It's a fucking dex comparison thread. If you're going to post out of context screenshots that would easily be alter with F12 at least provide a proper source.
>>27895912
????

>> No.27895964

>>27895815
>What's the issue here? Stakenet uses a governance censuses mechanism to 'print' extra coins.
maybe the fact that the team was literally threatening to stop development if the vote doesn't pass? As the project hasn't still gotten any traction, they're forced to mint more soon. Enjoy getting inflated out of your position.

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>>27895628
>>27895676
>>27895714
>>27895877
Glad you're here schizo fudder, took you a while to find it since "XSN" wasn't in the OP.
A toast to the man for keeping stakies cheap so we in the know can accumulate cheaper!

>> No.27896078
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27896078

>>27895952
>his isn't an xsn shill thread. It's a fucking dex comparison thread.
then why did you start this thread and post it on the XSN discord "biz-shill" channel? Seems disingenuous you fucking scammer.

>> No.27896082

>>27895964
>maybe the fact that the team was literally threatening to stop development if the vote doesn't pass?
Source on your claim. If seen your fud before so i know for a fact you're full of shit because I browse /biz/ 24/7.

>> No.27896104

>>27895676

I have 2 MNs but this is kinda sus. Has Yankee commented on this?

>> No.27896122

>>27896078
>someone posted a link into a discord
>automatically assume it was me
Not only did you cut off the time stamp of that post, you've also shown yourself to be in the stakenet discord (i assume it's that).

>> No.27896190

>>27895966
Hehehe the future threads should be like this, that way he has to stay on biz all the time to see what pops up.

>> No.27896253

>>27896122
>you've also shown yourself to be in the stakenet discord
>post a screenshot straight from the discord biz-scammers channel
>"I think you're on our discord!"
get fucked scammers.

>> No.27896259 [DELETED] 
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27896259

>ATTENTION NEWFAGS HERE IS YOUR XSN SPOONFEED UR WELC<

P.S. if anyone feels up to it, feel free to update the graph in my image.

>What will using the StakeNet DEX/lightwallet client be like?
https://streamable.com/codw1m

>What is Stakenet(XSN)?
https://pastebin.com/jiMdEAN8

>Whats the easiest way to set up a Masternode?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_YdU8vWrU

>Official Site
https://stakenet.io/

>Whitepaper
https://stakenet.io/Stakenet_Whitepaper.pdf

>Lightpaper
https://medium.com/stakenet/stakenet-light-paper-56552f8c07a2

>Developer updates
https://medium.com/stakenet

>Latest Development Update
https://medium.com/stakenet/xsn-core-update-jan-2021-1f2b1f585b58

>Hardware Wallet Cold Staking
https://medium.com/stakenet/trezor-tpos-guide-fb9ea90382fd

>Additional reading

>Quick rundown
https://medium.com/stakenet/multi-currency-wallet-and-lightning-swaps-stakenet-solution-7d0dafe99105
>X9's contributions to LTC
https://medium.com/stakenet/litecoin-foundation-and-x9-developers-announce-collaboration-510ca985b6
>Exertive Proof of Stake
https://medium.com/stakenet/exertive-proof-of-stake-epos-4a999807f9e4
>Great write-up of Cross Chain Proof of Stake (i.e. stake XSN, receive BTC)
https://medium.com/stakenet/posw-weekly-ccpos-cross-chain-proof-of-stake-de1ac87055cd
>The Cypherpunk Standard of Banking
https://medium.com/altcoin-magazine/the-cypherpunk-standard-of-banking-88f84a834180
>Ethereum Scalability Solutions, Connext and Stakenet | XSN Research Scalability Solutions
https://medium.com/stakenet/ethereum-scalability-solutions-connext-and-stakenet-xsn-research-4edb29267bb6

>NEW: updated masternode fee structure
https://medium.com/stakenet/hydra-dex-network-upgrade-proposal-4b00a3a3fb8

>NEW: Fresh and Quality Breakdown of StakeNet for noobs and veterans alike, good read
https://np.reddit.com/r/SatoshiStreetBets/comments/l8joip/moonshot_stakenetxsn_a_dex_with_interchain/

>> No.27896290

>>27896078
>Posted at 1:34 pm my time
>Op made his thread at 11:59am my time
Source, im in the xsn discord. You are full of shit.

>> No.27896293

>>27895684
fair. just saying - right now it's hard to say whether the dex will mean the end of uni - odds are it'll take a while before it blockbusters existing shitcoin retail dexes.

>> No.27896367

>>27896253
Get the fuck out of my thread you homosexual nigger.
>>27896259
Anon please my thread.
>>27896290
So my thread was posted in the xsn discord 1.5 hours after I made it. Thanks anon that other guy is fucking cancer.

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>> No.27896429

>>27896104
what's sus, that he shilled shitcoins on a pseudonymous forum? is that what you're concerned abt?

>> No.27896477

>>27896367
I respect you OP, so if you wish for me to delete my spoonfeed post, just give the word

>> No.27896482

>>27896429
That's a relief just bought 2 more.

>> No.27896492

>>27896122
Checked and kek'd., Yeah its literally the XSN discord.

>>27896290
Exactly, they tend to just post threads that mention xsn when someone finds one. It's not like they make all these threads and then immediately post the thread on disc like a retard.

>>27896367
Funny how shortly after the thread was posted on the disc we got the XSN fud spam in the thread...

>> No.27896508

>>27896477
Checked, just leave it. This thread is already fucked due to the retard spamming fud + thorchain retard.

>> No.27896546

>>27896492
>Funny how shortly after the thread was posted on the disc we got the XSN fud spam in the thread...
But i posted my thread nearly 4.5 hours ago............. that discord post was 3 hours ago....

>> No.27896567

>>27896386
a number of these are done but are marked as X, might wanna update

>> No.27896579

>>27896259
FUCK. OFF.
stop spoonfeeding. you need to post memes and jokes, not text walls you stupid fuck.

I thought aussies were supposed to have bantz - why are you both pestering and overbearing with your shitty shilling?

those who know know - let others find out organically by asking questions or DYOR

>> No.27896595

>>27896293
If the dex launches with liquidity and has good marketing we can kill uniswap within 1 month. Once hydra gets out and the whales + bot makers + HFT realise how much money they can make it's game over.

>> No.27896640

>>27896579
After reading your post, I agree with you. spoonfeed deleted

>> No.27896717

>>27896492
fucking turkroaches I swear

if I find out who labz is I swear to God I'm gonna take a hit out on him in minecraft.

>> No.27896729

>noooo xsn discord has a biz channel in their communities section reee
It's literally people shitposting about kikes and they keep it around because biz is unironically the best gem hunting community in crypto. Complain enough about us saying nigger and it'll get renamed #forum again, who cares.

>> No.27896796

>>27896567
>a number of these are done
which ones? let me know.

>> No.27896983

Ive used this: btcities.com

No clue what is behind it. I used it to swap btc for eth. Has a limit though

>> No.27897096

>>27896983
Anon this is suss as fuck.

>> No.27897307

>>27895877
holy shit stakenets are this idiot!

>> No.27897370
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This shit comes out in less than a month

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>>27897370
What?

>> No.27897509

>>27897393
it's a multichain dex launching soon called coin

>> No.27897549

>>27897509
>it's a multichain dex launching soon called coin
Coin coin???

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>>27891423
>>27891544
>>27891678
>xsn
this absolute shitcoin has been around 3 YEARS and was already exposed as a scam just a few fucking days ago on this board, prepare your pink wojaks when they pull a confido on your asses. just look at that chart jesus.

>> No.27897641

>>27897578
>3 years
So it's a project that survived the bear market. Adds more credibility in my eyes.
>exposed as a scam a few days ago
Proof? Don't tell me you're full of shit like the other fudders.

>> No.27897675

>>27897549
It's a retarded name but I assume they where going for something minimalistic aside from the terrible name it actually looks like it could be somewhat promising

>> No.27897723

>>27897675
Can you provide a source? What does it do? Can it do native btc/eth swaps? Scaling?

>> No.27897817

>>27897641
>sideways movement for 3 years and only goes up or down conveniently whenever it's being shilled here
yeah, that's definitely not a cause for concern.
>proof
>nigger wants me to spoonfeed him despite this being common knowledge to anyone with an IQ over 100.

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>>27897817
>claims a project that survived a 3 year bear market is a scam
>cant provide proof
Get the fuck outta my thread cunt

>> No.27897929

>>27897723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW9O8qb7H5o


Also check out their website coindefi.org

>> No.27898154

>>27897876
>pajeet branding
>pajeet marketing
faggot.

>> No.27898165

>>27882783
there is literally no solution for trading in different blockchains when it comes to DEX
>L2 throws security out of the window which absolutely nullifies benefits of blockchain, and therefore the benefits of DEX
L2 DEX is a pure scam just like any other L2 shit, even those zk-rollups got vitalik nowhere
>crosschain shit is always a SPoF on the other way of the bridge so sadly no actual DEX could be made from such shit.
Wrapped and synthetic assets deal with contracts at least on one end but im not so sure whether that multisig BTC wallet on WBTC system is safe. It's just the same shit as Tether in my opinion.

>> No.27898783

>>27897307
> holy shit stakenets are this idiot
Terrible english. Go back to the village Ranjeesh

>> No.27899375

>>27898154
Not an arguement.
>>27897929
Not here to watch videos, please provide text explanation.
>>27898165
Are you braindead? Layer 2 is very secure.

>> No.27899624

>>27895100
based desu

>> No.27899673

PNG
iykyk

>> No.27900009

Take a look at www.coindefi.org then this can do it, not too late to fill your bag
S

$COIN

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>>27899375
The video pretty is pretty well summed up by this image. Cross Chain swaps should be live by 17/02 if team meets their deadline

>> No.27900303

>>27899673
>>27900009
Explanation sirs.
>>27900170
How is it cross chain? Sidechains? Wrapped? Layer 2? Also scaling.

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>>27882783
Im only telling you once who this obvious winner is.

>> No.27900702

>>27900663
No explanation, also
>N