/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.27565696]

This desu.

[Anonymous No.27565779]

>>27565696
that's a man

[Anonymous No.27565784]

I hate commies and even I think this is true. Fucking working for them

[Anonymous No.27565815]

>>27565696
It's true, women should've never been let into the workplace.

[Anonymous No.27565855]

>>27565784
I am a commie and I don't think this is true; I actually like my job and get paid well.

[Anonymous No.27565880]

somebody has to take my trash away once a week bitch

[Anonymous No.27565878]

Yeah I don’t want to work either.
But I’m not a delusional retard who thinks someone else is going to do it for me. So I’m making on crypto

[Anonymous No.27565949]

Capitalism is the slow erosion of quality of life so the elites (who hoard everything) can sell small victories back to you at grossly-inflated prices.

[Anonymous No.27565955]

Well, if you lived alone with your family you would still have jobs to do. Building things, tending to crops or animals, or hunting, the occasional fight with a neighboring clan. A lot of stuff you wouldn't want to do but would be obligated to.

[Anonymous No.27565973]

What the fuck does a job have to do with capitalism? People have jobs to do no matter the economic system, capitalism just gives you choice and diversity.

Fucking dumb women brainlets.

[Anonymous No.27566030]

>>27565696
Yes, because communism doesn't consist of slave work.
Capitalism let's you at least decide where you want to be a wagie cagie

[Anonymous No.27566059]

i love people that think like this. heads up theres nothing stopping you from achieving your "dream" of not having a job, its called being homeless lol

[Anonymous No.27566100]

>>27565973
>People have jobs to do no matter the economic system
I don’t and won’t ever again
t. rubichad

[Anonymous No.27566109]

>>27565784
Because boomers are retards who took away the basic incentive to work- a decent paycheck.

[Anonymous No.27566121]

>>27565696
>women don't want to work

wow no shit, did these retards really think men just spend all day chomping on cigars at the corner office

[Anonymous No.27566137]

>>27565696
Humans were never meant to have a “job” really. Sure, back in the day we hunted and fished for sustenance, but that was not work. The modern world stripped us of our savage instincts.

[Anonymous No.27566148]

>>27565696
the problem is college debt. the law was changed so that you couldn't default on debt
>no need to worry about credit of borrower
>banks focus on volume rather than quality of loans
>college prices go up
>colleges admit more people to take advantage of rising prices + grow bureaucracy
>mass influx of college grads with worthless degrees
>immediate need to get a job to pay off debt rather than startup / small business founder

[Anonymous No.27566159]

People trashing on capitalism for the most part are stupid and are actually conflating free market capitalism with some kind of big government/corporate cronyism.

[Anonymous No.27566202]

>>27565696
What percentage of gen z women will end up in some form of prostitution?

[Anonymous No.27566227]

>>27565696
>JUST WORK TO FEED AND CLOTHE ME
>NO I WONT WORK
>I WANT TO WRITE FEMINIST THEORY ALL DAY
Thank God the lack of universal healthcare culls these peasants regularly

[Anonymous No.27566229]

>>27565949
good identification of symptom but the underlying cause is central bank / govt inflationary practices, not capitalism.

[Anonymous No.27566237]

>>27566059
no it’s called buying rubic

[Anonymous No.27566286]

>>27566137
>back in the day we hunted and fished for sustenance, but that was not work

that was waaay back in the day though, like perhaps 10,000 years. Since agricultural revolution, farming was the main thing you spent your life doing and I don't know if you consider that work or not

[Anonymous No.27566330]

>>27566202
its kind of sick because boomers ruined the market for youngsters and then when they divorced from their Xanax induced wife, they take advantage of the debt problems they created for the younger generation through sugar babying

[Anonymous No.27566334]

>>27566159

It's pretty annoying, "capitalism" is just free trade, barter, whatever the fuck else we called it in history. It's letting people conduct business at will. In a purely capitalist system there is no government interfering in that or kingmaking, or creating tax and wage cattle.

[Anonymous No.27566346]

The greatest scam that communism ever pulled was convincing us that another lazy fucking commie isn't going to fuck you in the ass for one more bite of a moldy piece of bread.

People like that should be sent to North Korea.

[Anonymous No.27566361]

Well I'd like to just be a hunter-gatherer but apparently, I need to work so that the state can tax me and give said tax dollars as benefits to women named Selam

[Anonymous No.27566360]

>>27565696
>I don't want to work
Me either. That's why I buy crypto.

[Anonymous No.27566413]

>>27566286

We started farming because the hunting/foraging life was volatile and you could hit a rough patch and die any given week. That's why we started farming. We get to a point where we just forget practical shit early humans had to take a lot of time to learn.

[Anonymous No.27566429]

You're either an employee or an entrepreneur.

[Anonymous No.27566439]

>>27566229
Consolidation of power will always happen under capitalism because once you are rich enough you write the laws.

[Anonymous No.27566523]

>>27565880
What these people don't understand is that they don't HAVE to work degrading and shitty jobs if they don't want to. They might suffer for awhile looking for a job they enjoy, but that's the problem. Nobody wants to suffer they just want good times. The path to success is filled with unimaginable suffering and it's that suffering that successful people channel.

[Anonymous No.27566527]

>>27566334
in your beautiful anarcho lib utopia there would be only one corporation named Standard Oil Berkshire Hathaway that would graciously allow you to work for them for 0.0001 dollars an hour

[Anonymous No.27566596]

>>27565696
no shit, you're women, you want to raise children
>muh capitalism

[Anonymous No.27566604]

>>27566159
this 100%. These people don't get that we are living under how an extreme interventionist would try to make a capitalist system benefit them:
>central bank to lower rates / drive borrowing for companies that would be unprofitable if forced to raise money at market terms
>purchase of corporate bonds of companies that need to go bankrupt
>debasement of currency through printing

[Anonymous No.27566607]

>>27565855
>paid well
Thats pretty much all there is. Youd hate it if you got paid just enough to pay for your run down one bedroom apartment. All the people who complain about their job yet they're paid well are just pussies.

[Anonymous No.27566631]

>>27566527

Standard Oil was allowed to monopolize thanks to crony government + regulations retard. And they only exist to provide a product that people want to push a car around. You're totally free to go find some stupid forest to fuck about in like a chimp.

[Anonymous No.27566689]

>>27566439
Not in a decentralized system. All centralized systems will eventually consolidate power, become bloated and inefficient, and die. It doesn't matter if you are capitalist or communist, if your system is centralized you will both run into the EXACT SAME problem.

[Anonymous No.27566713]

>>27566109
What?

[Anonymous No.27566724]

>>27566330
Boomers also got to make money, invest and become wealthy, and then bang hot millennial women in their 20s. Millennial men are going to age into that bracket and they'll get a buffet of 20-something blue haired, obese bull-dyke xirs covered in tattoos and piercings

[Anonymous No.27566748]

>>27566439
to some extent this point of view is correct. For example, if you did not want to trade in USD you would lose your power as evidenced by Iraq and Libya. But now with cryptocurrency we have an exit from consolidated systems that favor the entrenched and elite. So if they continue to implement bad systems, their systems will fail whereas prior, they could avoid the results of their actions via the FED

[Anonymous No.27566768]

>>27565696
no, the biggest scam was selling the idea of dreams and desires. the idea of wanting more ruins people because they can never satisfied with what they can have.

[Anonymous No.27566874]

>>27566689
yea I unironically think every young person should be working on ushering in the decentralized future. There is no way for us to prosper in this rigged game, as many recent events have made abundantly clear.

[Anonymous No.27566880]

>>27565696
>confusing capitalism and feminism
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.27566903]

>>27566689
Exactly this. The best system is the one in which you are fine handing control over to your enemy. Otherwise then you were simply advocating for more power for yourself. Therefore the only way to create a system is one in which no single entity can become a third party risk -> decentralization

[Anonymous No.27566984]

>>27566607
Not even lying, before this job, I had a job that was poverty tier, and I liked it too. My dad kept asking me when I'd get a real job. I only quit because my boss dicked me over. Life is a short strange trip, anon.

[Anonymous No.27567030]

>>27566768
consumerism is a byproduct of inflationary measures. If your money inflates, you will tend to spend it each year. If your money increases in value each year, then you will avoid stupid purchases and not fall for the envy meme

[Anonymous No.27567070]

>>27565855
The problem is wageslaving. Being rich does not mean stop working. The diference is that you work on anything you want,

[Anonymous No.27567091]

>>27567030
no.

[Anonymous No.27567190]

>doesn't want to work
>still wants free gibs from society
These parasites need to be culled.

[Anonymous No.27567256]

>>27567030
consumerism is the product of inflationary measures.

[Anonymous No.27567285]

>>27567256
what is this meme

[Anonymous No.27567353]

>>27565696
Obviously no one wants to wage, but it’s the way these commie roasties say it. They’ve been psyopped so hard they don’t want to improve their lives but instead would rather be sucking the teat of an omnipotent government

[Anonymous No.27567371]

>>27567190
>he doesn't realize that the richer you are the more free gibs you get

shoulda taken the red pill anon

[Anonymous No.27567381]

>>27567091
>what is high vs low time preference? how are these related to market interest rates?

[Anonymous No.27567480]

>>27565696
i liked working in my uncle's factory in high school and college 100x more than being a lawyer. filling orders and packing boxes? sign me up. that is relaxing and enjoyable. why oh why can't i get 100k to pack boxes?

[Anonymous No.27567488]

>>27565973
(You)

[Anonymous No.27567528]

>>27565973

[Anonymous No.27567582]

>>27567371
I live in europe so anyone that makes over 100k a month is paying 50% of their income in taxes.

[Anonymous No.27567602]

>>27566724
south america, before they get caught up in western bullshit (just starting to happen there so hurry)

[Anonymous No.27567694]

>>27566413
Agriculture is volatile too. A bad harvest could lead to mass starvation. It did allow static civilizations to form though, rather than simple nomadic groups.

[Anonymous No.27567752]

>>27566109
I'm more inclined to whine about the price of buying a shitty house in any city larger than 500k pop.

[Anonymous No.27567794]

>>27567480
I work an entry level job for a medical company and they're pushing me for a promotion. I don't really even want it. I don't want to work OT all the time. I don't want the extra responsibilities. I love my current job. I'm really good at it and get so far ahead that I only work 8 full hours maybe 4 days out of the month. I wish I could just get a pay raise in this role rather than a promotion. I'd rather spend the extra time working on shit with my business partner and trading crypto. Hopefully our business takes off and then I can just quit and do what I want full time.

[Anonymous No.27567821]

>waaaah i dont wanna work
the essence of communism

[Anonymous No.27567850]

>>27566159
holy fuck how old are you

[Anonymous No.27568067]

>>27567582
oh so nobody that matters lives in your country

[Anonymous No.27568070]

>>27567850
>t. 14 years old

[Anonymous No.27568209]

>>27565696
Work gives you meaning
What the fuck do think hunter gathers did?
They fucking worked
Work is glorious

[Anonymous No.27568221]

I'm going to become a monk.

[Anonymous No.27568263]

>>27567850
t. a lazy niggerfaggot pot smoking commie nigger

[Anonymous No.27568386]

>>27566109
I have no college education and make pretty decent Money. More then most my age I am sure. People are just socially retarded and don’t know how to properly interview or market themselves to companies. Most people can barely write a resume and the info is all online for free.

[Anonymous No.27568491]

>>27568070
real capitalism has never been tried, cannot be tried, people are too greedy. What you see is capitalism without respect for the premise of a free market. Same with Communism. You just love the arbitrary system that benefits Jews and are on commission and you don't even know it.

[Anonymous No.27568538]

>>27566229

REAL CAPITALISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED GUYS!!!!!111!!!!!!ELEV!!!!!

[Anonymous No.27568595]

>>27567850
Older than you faggot

[Anonymous No.27568731]

>>27565696
Women didn't use to have to work. These girls and everyone ITT is retarded

[Anonymous No.27568786]

>>27566137
If it were efficient/sustainable for existence and propagation then it would have stayed that way, that’s what primitivism retards don’t understand. That’s like saying that we should have eyes on our knees and an arm growing out of our back because it would satisfy your perception of what a human being is. If the course of human evolution selected a trait to be inefficient or impractical, then it would be whittled away over many generations.
The canon of human history is seen through a deterministic lens: even if your idealistic existence would come to be, we would collectively end up in the exact same circumstances with the same fundamental issues manifested by human nature.

[Anonymous No.27568871]

>>27568731
>and everyone ITT is retarded
Well how's it going fellow retard?

[Anonymous No.27568881]

>>27568491
>You just love the arbitrary system
don't put words in my mouth, moshe

[Anonymous No.27568888]

>>27565696
Get a job reatrd. It's on the Bible look it up.

[Anonymous No.27568932]

Why do leftists not even understand what capitalism even means?

[Anonymous No.27568936]

>>27568595
>hurr durr the gubment will bail me out look dey did it to cohen i participated in the same thing
die

[Anonymous No.27569021]

>>27565949
Stop confusing central banking with capitalism, idiot.

>>27568538
But it WAS tried many times and was actually successful. Why don't we go back to free markets and end the fed?

[Anonymous No.27569078]

>>27567850
Much older than you.

[Anonymous No.27569090]

>>27565696
>Capitalism
Yeah, as opposed to what? Shits the best thing we've got now till we can come up with something new and actually useful that doesn't kill us wholesale.

[Anonymous No.27569096]

>>27566527

[Anonymous No.27569168]

>>27568067
>only jews and nigger matter
enjoy your live mutt

[Anonymous No.27569178]

Man, I wish we could just create a socialist / communist containment zone. Id even be willing to give up California so then people can finally live their dream utopia and see that their ideas messed up the most prosperous state in the union

[Anonymous No.27569181]

>>27565696
This is exactly why I took the entrepreneurship. Even on the shittiest of days where I'm forced to do certain tasks or endeavors that I don't want to do on my own but have to because I can't outsource are heaps better than the best days as a wagecuck.

Why are you going to spend your time doing something you hate for a boss you don't like?

[Anonymous No.27569285]

>>27569168
lol doubling down i see, you are being slaughtered by not having sex.

[Anonymous No.27569298]

>>27565696
She makes a point. If she wants to stop working she can come live with me. She can engage in all her hobbies and crafts like cooking, cleaning (interior decorating), knitting, and of course child rearing.

[Anonymous No.27569301]

>>27567091
>>27567285
the idea of desires and dreams (consumerism) is sold to people in order for them to spend there money, inflation accelerates this and they contribute faster to the economy.

>>27568538
the current capitalism we live in is retarded it incentivizes monopoly, wouldn't it be better to prevent growth and therefore have more products and solutions in the market instead of one successful product taking over?

[Anonymous No.27569313]

What's funny is people without a career or a job are fucking miserable and they wonder why. Working is more than just getting money for time it's needed for psychological wellbeing. We see this with unemployed white men especially. They become unemployed, get depressed, start doing drugs and end up commiting suicide or over dosing. People need careers or work to function, we need that routine and work ethic.

[Anonymous No.27569320]

>>27565696
It's not a trick retarded communist faggots, people just don't want to take care of you like you're their child throughout your adult life. You're not entitled to be a parasite on anyone.

[Anonymous No.27569378]

>>27565855
This, I would love to work all day doing something I enjoy. Women are just retards who don't realize they should be raising children not working.

[Anonymous No.27569395]

>>27565696
blame feminisim for the fact the woman have to have jobs, ruin there lives and make less as a family than when only men had to work

[Anonymous No.27569462]

>>27569301

monopolies are a feature of capitalism not a bug and only interventions and regulation by a government would slow or prevent it

[Anonymous No.27569475]

>>27566159
they're shills anon who the fuck is a communist on a business and finance board speculating on free market internet currency to accumulate enough work to be free of endless work for the collective

[Anonymous No.27569520]

>>27569320
it is a trick and you're expected to take care of them through THEIR adult lives until YOU are obsolete. What you're describing is coercion to be a good goy.

[Anonymous No.27569523]

>>27569178
They’re already leaving in droves to come buttfuck Texas and shoot up in the same playground I used to play in when I was 7.
I say we end this charade and execute them.

[Anonymous No.27569553]

>>27569462
there has never been a free market monopoly
https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-that-standard-oil-was-a-predatory-monopoly/

[Anonymous No.27569555]

>>27569462
no picking the best product is the feature monopolies are the consequence, we already have patent laws.

[Anonymous No.27569650]

Most commie fags especially women are miserable not because of their jobs but because their debt makes it hard for them to tell their employers to suck their dick, but unfortunately the issue with commie fags is they are all sophist midwits who value their self worth in the form of college degrees and whether or not they live in New York City.

[Anonymous No.27569674]

>>27569553

>weinberger

Nice try capitalist

[Anonymous No.27569694]

>>27565696
Lmao. This mentality is a huge hinder on the ultimate goal of happiness. Nobody can convince you that a job is a dream unless you allow them to. For me personally work is necessary to happiness. My whole day is a job whether it's where I went to make money or the cleaning of my my room and doing the dishes. I have it pretty good. I bought a house off 14$ an hour I own two trucks, a plethora of guns and all the commodities I need with the ability to throw some cash into savings each check. The big wigs think they have it all but really they have nothing but endless and unfillable desires. A desire for a "dream job" is similar to the desire for riches there is always something better and there is always something more. Don't fall for the trap work hard and be happy friends.

[Anonymous No.27569755]

>>27569674
go give your property rights away to the government

[Anonymous No.27569775]

>>27566227
holy shit dude u went off

[Anonymous No.27569794]

>>27565855
>well paid commie
Imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.27569826]

>>27566237
BASED

[Anonymous No.27569840]

>>27569694
Based. While people went to college I made 20 an hour and thousands from investing. I made the difference and have a low stress job and a happy life.

[Anonymous No.27569859]

>>27565696
How does society function if no-one works? Even if you choose to homestead you've still got to farm your crops, perform maintenance on your home and stuff.

[Anonymous No.27569914]

>>27566237
Rubic Chad's will be millionaires soon enough. What are you gonna do with you money fren? I'll think I'll buy a whore to lick cavi

[Anonymous No.27569950]

>>27565696
I only want to make it so I can buy a farm. Working is awesome if it's something you love to do.

[Anonymous No.27569952]

>>27569859
what you do is kill millions of people and put them into forced labor camps

[Anonymous No.27569984]

>>27569859

I would rather work for myself or my community than work as a slave for the purpose of enriching Bezos

[Anonymous No.27569987]

>>27569313
Most people can't self-actualize and need the job for structure in their lives. I'm a bit of a neet now, guess I'm different because I don't miss working for a boss one bit.

[Anonymous No.27569989]

>>27566227
>JUST WORK TO FEED AND CLOTHE ME
>NO I WONT WORK
>I WANT TO BING BING WAHOO ON MEMEGRAPHS THAT DON'T EXIST TO ENSLAVE HUMANITY ALL DAY
lol im glad you exist, this world may not be so rough if there are actual slaves like you.

[Anonymous No.27570002]

>>27565696
WHAT DO YA MEAN YOU DON'T WANT TO WAGESLAVE FOR 50 YEARS AND THEN DEGRADE IN FRONT OF THE TV FOR THE REST

[Anonymous No.27570052]

>>27569984
interesting how you think giving away your property rights, freedom and self determination would enable that

[Anonymous No.27570072]

>>27566439
Consolidation of power happens in any system, it's the nature of humans. We flux between centralization and decentralization in long super cycles throughout history.

[Anonymous No.27570101]

Yep. I have dreams and aspirations, and they have nothing to do with employment.

[Anonymous No.27570139]

>>27570052

Oh no not muh mythical “freedom” what would we ever do without that

[Anonymous No.27570142]

>>27569555
Yes but then without regulation the monopoly

[Anonymous No.27570172]

>>27565696
I never made the connection that the expression dream job exists and that normans actually dream of being some kind of wagie.

[Anonymous No.27570176]

this is probably a very smart thread, I wish I had time to read it.

[Anonymous No.27570183]

I actually don't mind working at all if a minor handful of things change. I am a teacher and all I want is to be able to go to the bathroom when I want and to not have people crawling up my ass over politics or trends. Let me do my damn job.

[Anonymous No.27570245]

>>27570142
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.27570258]

>>27570139
you would be a slave to a dictator

[Anonymous No.27570282]

>>27565949
QoL has risen over time for the worker in capitalism, even mark knew it, that's we he sperged out and wrote the manifesto thinking the workers would never revolt unless they forced it to happen

[Anonymous No.27570313]

>>27570258
kek

[Anonymous No.27570438]

>>27570313
another want to be slave

[Anonymous No.27570514]

>>27570139
under capitlism your freedom comes from utility, the more useful you are the more freedom bucks you receive. under communism or are as useful as everyone else and expendable your life loses value and there is no need to provide you with freedom, that's why regime's have always failed.

[Anonymous No.27570545]

>>27570245
Sorry, I got distracted and hit submit. Without regulation the monopoly will just use its resources to squash any competitor. There will always be an apex predator in any system. Under capitalism it becomes the monopolies. Under communism it is just the government. Decentralization is the only way to avoid this and will need to be the next step in human evolution if we want to continue progressing as a species.

[Anonymous No.27570613]

>>27570545
empirically wrong, there is not a single example of a monopoly occuring outside government intervention

[Anonymous No.27570810]

>>27567256
>>27567381
>>27569301
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
oh ok

>>27569794
soap

>>27567582
And yet

[Anonymous No.27570822]

>>27570545
right, but my opinion is to prevent the monopoly. also they do not squash but instead assimilate. when google bought youtube they didn't destroy it, it just became another part of the company.

[Anonymous No.27570880]

>>27565696
Oh so NOW you women don't want to work. So what was all that whining you bitches did about wanting to become slaves for Mr Goldstein? Fucking cunts can never make up their minds. Next they'll complain about having to vote after all the damage they've done with it over the past few decades.

[Anonymous No.27570886]

>>27570514
lol what happens when they start artificially undervaluing your utility when they realize you're not some anomaly and a chink/jeet/bot can do what you do for a fraction of your salary lol th-th-thank you jew overlords you know what is best. Your "utility" you are a glorified corpse with a sticker price on it to be discarded when a cheaper cadaver floats through

[Anonymous No.27570911]

>>27568386
You can even bee socially retarded and still do more than fine by just working in a trade.

[Anonymous No.27571076]

>>27570545
This is true but how do you prevent a decentralized system being outcompeted by a centralized one? The latter is always going to be less efficient. Best outcome I can see is artificially propping a decentralized competitor up to keep the centralized system from consolidating enough power that the rot starts to set in.

[Anonymous No.27571133]

>>27570886
that would also happen under communism. it's not the governing bodies responsibility to provide you with utility although efforts are made with school systems because in a capitalist society its unprofitable to have useless citizens.

[Anonymous No.27571150]

>>27570886
you can't artificially undervalue utility because you don't decide what people think is valuable
While under your commie system the government decrees that you are worthless and if you don't like you go to the gulag

[Anonymous No.27571191]

>>27571076
The latter is always going to be less efficient
*former

[Anonymous No.27571234]

They're waking up, albeit kinda slowly

[Anonymous No.27571322]

>>27571234
to what? they'll be wealthier when it is illegal to have wealth?

[Anonymous No.27571366]

>>27569378
I don't understand women. Why would you want to do anything but raise a family? All I want to do is have children and make them happy. Women have the best role in society but they've somehow convinced themselves that working is better than being a parent.

[Anonymous No.27571374]

>>27569840
Keep it up brother.

[Anonymous No.27571468]

>>27565696
You don't have to wage again with 1 XSN masternode OP

[Anonymous No.27571586]

>>27569984
You can do that right now though. A plot of land in bumfuck nowhere really isn't all that expensive, 20k at most. Work at Walkmart for a year then go live off the land.

[Anonymous No.27571598]

>found a job I unironically love doing and look forward to every morning
>it's seasonal and I have to spend the entire winter depressed with the family nagging at me to become a wagie

[Anonymous No.27571819]

>>27571076
It works digitally. That's why crypto works so well.
>>27570613
You are factually correct. I can't deny that but the government will never allow a monopoly to occur because the government wants to keep its own monopoly.

[Anonymous No.27571855]

>>27566631
>Standard Oil was allowed to monopolize thanks to crony government + regulations retard
but less government and regulations will fix the problem, right anon?

[Anonymous No.27571870]

>>27571150
>you don't decide what people think is valuable
lol what the fuck are you talking about. Are you having some cognitive seizure? I'm not a communist, stop defending jew cronyism. All proponents of the free market have a biased opinion because it never existed. What Communist system decreed "accurately" worthlessness? Seems like imposing mass famine strategies is all that is worthy of merit in communism because all the best communists did it.

[Anonymous No.27571973]

>>27571366
>convinced themselves
>convinced themselves
>convinced themselves
Anon I have a bridge....

[Anonymous No.27572014]

>>27566631
standard oil was losing market share prices and wages were better prior to the government making an actual monopoly of standard oil via Oil Division of the US Fuel Administration and the Federal Oil Conservation Board

[Anonymous No.27572061]

I like working, if it is fulfilling than that will be my career. Simple stuff

[Anonymous No.27572194]

>>27571870
>jews control value
no they don't you psyoped moron

communist states give no worth to the individual. Or a national socialist like yourself you can look at Diocletians price fixing and how well that went

[Anonymous No.27572209]

I want to work and I like what I do but I don't want to do it according to anyone's gay rules. I want to work at any time I want and I don't want to go to some gay office and I want to interact with coworkers and clients as little as possible and I should be able to speak nothing less than my mind around all of them. Fuck all social and cultural aspects of work including schedules, 40 hr week, 9 to 5, overtime, having to log pto, the christmas party, and all that other useless bullshit, it is all unnecessary

[Anonymous No.27572341]

>>27571598
I had this too for a while.
>seasonal job that paid well
>room/board/utilities all covered by company
>have a fat pile of cash to play with between seasons
>travel around the USA and visit friends
>go back for the next summer/winter
I fell for the "live in the real world" meme which isn't as good as they say. I can't do it in this shitty real world. I once lived in a fantasy land and always think about going back, but Corona puts a damper on it even if I make more money and have better benefits now in "reality."

[Anonymous No.27572398]

>>27571870
from what I understand the only reason you're against a free market is because of monopolies but you're in favor of decentralization which removes the power to prevent them?

[Anonymous No.27572452]

>>27565779
you’ll never be a man faggot

[Anonymous No.27572586]

>>27572398
despite there being no evidence of the free market causing a monopoly and pelnty of incidence of government caused monopoly.
his decentralization is Chinas Blockchain Service Network which isn't decentralized in governance

[Anonymous No.27572686]

>>27565696
behold, the parasite!

[Anonymous No.27572782]

What a stupid fucking take. Probably from someone working at a Wendy's drivethrough

[Anonymous No.27572855]

>>27572341
My job was with the park service. Housing in a 50,000 acre national park, small tight-knit community of employes living on site, job was basically just driving a side-by-side around the hills repairing a fence. Perfect mix of laxness and feeling proud of what you did. Then fall asleep listening to elk calls at night. Then I come back home and have to hear
>Anon I'm worried that you are not thinking about your career
Fuck the career, I'd rather be poor in paradise.

[Anonymous No.27572964]

>>27572855
Mine was sadly not with the park service, but I definitely got to interact with them enough. Especially when fucking pine martens started harrassing folks inside the place I worked. Good times. Don't miss the bison and bear jams. Do miss fucking off to the backcountry on the weekends and fishing, camping, all that fun stuff...
But, I've said too much by now.

[Anonymous No.27573187]

>>27566148
This anon gets it.

[Anonymous No.27573223]

>>27572586
you don't need evidence to assume a free market may create a monopoly and decentralization is useful for running some systems.

[Anonymous No.27573299]

>>27565696
Holy fucking BASED
M-maybe the normies are waking up. Maybe it's time lads. They'll be talking about eugenics and getting rid of annual property taxes soon right?

[Anonymous No.27573432]

>>27572782
I feel like these fags just bank on some pipe dream shit like one of the lifelong deep state gloablist politicians with a (D) affixed to their name being president and eventually instituting UBI or some shit that'll somehow be enough to survive on, and are content to throw away decades and decades of their lives waiting

[Anonymous No.27573437]

>>27565696
>dream job
ngmi
You have dreams, dream goals, dream accomplishments, dream missions. Do you need a job in its pursuit? If yes, than get it, but is was never a means to an end. The most important and influential people in history didn't have fucking dream jobs, they had visions

[Anonymous No.27573575]

>>27573223
proof of work will produce a pareto distribution of blocks mined, it is a free market.
I assume you believe something that doesn't produce blocks is a node and 144mb/day is the limit of decentralization

[Anonymous No.27573586]

>>27566159
>ITS NOT REAL CAPITALISM
Lmfao

[Anonymous No.27573673]

>>27566334
>capitalism" is just free trade, barter, whatever the fuck else we called it in history. It's letting people conduct business at will.
Jesus christ please stop taking, you're fucking retarded. Why don't you take the time and actually try learning about the subjects and ideas you are bullshitting about

[Anonymous No.27573725]

>>27573575
wait, so there is proof that a free market produces a monopoly?

[Anonymous No.27573803]

>>27565696
What a cool post good sir. It's too bad 4chan doesn't have an upvote system so I could upvote it.

[Anonymous No.27573976]

Wtf does work have to do with capitalism, in communism if you refuse to work you get nothing. Read up on how life was in the Soviet Union ffs you 15 year old redditors.

[Anonymous No.27573997]

>>27573725
no any competitive game with scarce resources distributes those resources via pareto distribution a majority marketshare is not the definition of a monopoly. A monopoly is where there is anticompetitive pricing and lower quality. If you do this as a miner you lose market share and revenue, precisely because it is a free market

[Anonymous No.27574063]

>>27573976
in communism you get nothing period

[Anonymous No.27574192]

>>27565696
It's true. The reality is that nobody gives a shit about your job and what you do, so long as you earn good money. I'm friends and family with doctors, chefs, college professors, engineers, chemists, etc None of us give a shit about each others jobs or talk about them.

[Anonymous No.27574231]

>>27573997
>majority marketshare is not the definition of a monopoly
in fact it is, your just describing the consequences and implied it was with your china comment. I no longer understand your position.

[Anonymous No.27574313]

>>27567070
nah, just look at the Getty kids (worth several billion) who just overdosed after years of having no friends and being a shut in playing guitar in a $10million dollar house.

[Anonymous No.27574316]

>>27574063
Citizens in the Soviet Union got basic benefits that in modern America aren't available. However, NEETing wasn't an option. Neither dropping out of college was or discovering yourself or whatever. Jobless people were immediately put to other jobs.
In capitalism you can be a neet, in communism you can't

[Anonymous No.27574342]

>>27574231
no majority marketshare does not necessitate predatory pricing or withholding production
although a monopoly is defined by predatory pricing or withholding production

[Anonymous No.27574514]

[Anonymous No.27574531]

>>27574342
no, it isn't. it's defined by a majority market share. why are we arguing semantics?

[Anonymous No.27574622]

>>27565696
For the most part, yeah. Work sucks and almost everybody does it because they have to. If you gave every person on Earth $5k/month and made everything cost the same forever, then automated every job that is not desired, I'm guessing at least 95% of people would never work again. I'd find something to do, though. If I was free to pursue whatever I wanted, I would take up gunsmithing in a heartbeat and try to produce some unique stuff nobody has made yet; both for my own enjoyment and the enjoyment of others because I like being helpful.

[Anonymous No.27574688]

>>27565815
My new manager is a woman, she is bringing a bunch of fake corporate bullshit with here into a small family owned business. No one likes her, and she keeps trying to put out fires where there are none and creates a bunch of morale problems doing it.

I don't get it, she left a corporate environment she hated and came here and is trying to transform it into one.
Its like the left running cities, states, and nations into the ground with bad policies forcing themselves to move when it all collapses. Then they proceed to vote for the same policies anyway.

She needs to be tossed out honestly, her existence is a mood killer in general for the whole section im in.

[Anonymous No.27574805]

>>27574531
it's not though a majority marketshare isn't a problem, predatory pricing and manipulating supply is. The natural distribution of success is pareto winners change with time
we're arguing semantics because your definition is wrong. Plenty of industries have majority marketshare competitors

[Anonymous No.27574816]

>>27574316
who will produce the furry porn in communist society?

[Anonymous No.27574846]

>>27574688
Got any stories anon?

[Anonymous No.27574915]

>>27574805
provide me with an accepted definition.

[Anonymous No.27575001]

>>27574816
This is the best argument for communism I've seen in a long time.

[Anonymous No.27575005]

A white collar job that paid for your house, not stocker at Target alongside basketballs and Tacos

[Anonymous No.27575080]

>>27565696
You should be able to pay all of your expenses not be homeless by working ANY 40 hour job.

You won't get to buy a mansion flipping burgers but you should still be able to pay rent and bills working one job alone.

The way things are right now is not sustainable.

[Anonymous No.27575094]

>>27565696
jobs are cool, it's just the USA has let psychopaths accumulate, now every job has a boss who is a complete boomer bitch, and you gotta rush rush rush rush to get your wagie job done quick, no time to rest! No time off!
Solution: kill all psychopaths

[Anonymous No.27575348]

The problem is too many people and not enough meaningful jobs. After covid there's going to be a lot of unemployed people. A lot of jobs that existed arent coming back and when automation kicks in shit is going to get even worse. I honestly wonder what plans are in place to deal with this issue

[Anonymous No.27575419]

>>27574915
an entity with a large market majority using predatory pricing and/or manipulation of supply and/or government policy to make itself exempt from free market competition

i.e. an entity with a large market majority that is competing to maintain or grow its market share by delivering value to customers/consumers in a market is not a monopoly

[Anonymous No.27575426]

>>27575001

[Anonymous No.27575477]

>>27575419
sauce?

[Anonymous No.27575686]

>>27575419
like nokia prior to apple, had the majority wasn't a monopoly. A monopoly needs anticompetitive activity
>>27575477
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly#Characteristics

[Anonymous No.27575955]

>>27575080
Overpopulation is the problem. Too much demand and not enough supply, wage suppression, high rent, strained services and infrastructure that require more and more money to maintain.
The need for an ever-increasing economy means you need more and more consumers and worker ants, uneducated ones preferably, ones that dont ask questions, dont know their rights, spend day to day and dont save, which is why politicians and big business are obsessed with mass migration from third world countries.
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mextw93E3rg

[Anonymous No.27576005]

>>27575686
fine, I concede. you didn't provide evidence that free markets facilitate monopolies only entities that will most likely turn into them. I still don't understand your point.

[Anonymous No.27576084]

>>27575955
>Overpopulation
Nice meme. there's more than enough to go around until we colonize other planets in 100 years.

[Anonymous No.27576137]

>>27576005
I've already said there is no evidence that free markets can sustain monopolies >>27569553
I disagreed with you here >>27573725

[Anonymous No.27576207]

>>27565696
>Live in Finland
>Spend all day in yankees commie forums
>Never been to work
>Get benefits up to 1200€/month
>Praise communist revolution to Finland

[Anonymous No.27576263]

>>27575955
foreign tyranny is the problem
the economy has to be maintained at full employment to compete with socialists and communists who force their citizens to work. There has been constant global economic warfare since 1911, the increased tax the establishment of central banking and the military industrial complex are symptoms of the problem

[Anonymous No.27576617]

>>27573586
correct

[Anonymous No.27576732]

>>27576084
>there's more than enough
More than enough what?
>>27576263
Right, but why do we need to compete with them? Why dont we just prioritise improving the living quality of our own regions and settle for second best? We gain nothing from destroying ourselves in order to stay at the top. So long as we make sure they cannot threaten us by maintaining a healthy system of defence then what's the issue?

[Anonymous No.27576817]

>>27576732
>More than enough what?
resources

[Anonymous No.27576894]

>>27576137
so chinas blockchain service isn't a monopoly?

[Anonymous No.27576899]

>>27565949
t. retard who has no buisness being on /biz/
I am pretty new and even I know that the drastic income inequality is government/central bank fucking with things that they had no business being in, keeping a dead economy on life support instead of actually fixing the core issues

[Anonymous No.27577284]

>>27576732
because they will over run us, their economies are bubbles that can not reach equilibrium.

Imagine you have two countries of all other equivalent variables. Country A does not allow their citizens to accumulate wealth and so none of them can afford to stop working, their countries production will not stop increasing which gives them an economy to fund a larger army
meanwhile country b is built for the liberty of the citizen where the government is just a referee for free economic activity between individuals no one in this economy can be forced to work outside their own moral motivation necessitated by resource or economic war or war.

debasement has always been war time economics in england, in rome in greece etc. Longterm debasement makes you like what you were initially fighting, the usa today is arguably more tyrannical an empire than hitler or stalin hoped to achieve in that it extorts it currency as the world reserve by force.

What has been weid with china is exactly what defeated the soviet union (trade embargo) is being done to ourselves by ourselves over the past 50-70 years. Why did they continue free trade policy with china when it was clear they were not losing their autocracy only taking advantage of our free markets

[Anonymous No.27577289]

>>27576817
It's not just about resources though. Its about how those resources are handed out, its about logistics, infrastructure, public services, sustainability, pollution, speed of development and production, clashing of cultures etc etc. It's not sustainable

[Anonymous No.27577359]

>>27576894
Everything in china is a monopoly because everything is owned by the government.
the bsn is not proof of work it's many limited blockchains linked together by intermediaries and these intermediaries are arbitrators not competitors

[Anonymous No.27577363]

>>27577289
Yeah that's what I said. We can make sustainable if we fix distribution and infrastructure. Also, cultures don't clash, they mix and produce better cultures. I should know as a non white married to a white woman.

[Anonymous No.27577535]

>>27569096
People who believe this don't understand economics, history, politics or anything at all really.
Socialism is a disease.

[Anonymous No.27577572]

>>27577284
>because they will over run us
How exactly? We just need to stop trading with them so much. Keep them out of our economy and becons self sustaining.
The problem is our own establishment that want a globally integrated economy with us at the top

[Anonymous No.27577586]

>>27566527
>Standard Oil Berkshire Hathaway that would graciously allow you to work for them for 0.0001 dollars an hour
Standard oil dramatically raised wages and lowered prices.
The gilded age was unironically based.

>>27572014
source?

[Anonymous No.27577659]

>>27577572
>which gives them an economy to fund a larger army
read what I wrote
100 slaves has more economic output than 100 free men

[Anonymous No.27577716]

>>27568386
>you dont even need college to get a good job
lol

[Anonymous No.27577739]

>>27577586
https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/jle/vol1/iss1/10/

[Anonymous No.27577795]

>>27577363
>they mix and produce better cultures
Lol youre a fool. You are unaware because you choose to ignore. Im of mixed background and can see which way the wind is blowing, in 50 years or less we will all be at each other's throats. All is not well just because you have a white wife you cretin

[Anonymous No.27577827]

>>27566109
this, if i was able to wageslave and not worry about next months rent while also working i wouldnt mind it, not like i want a yacht from a fucking wageslave job.

[Anonymous No.27577870]

>>27565696
when your job is taking pictures with an expensive camera and getting paid by your parents

[Anonymous No.27577879]

>>27577659
Yes ok but so what. They have more economic output, so what? What does that mean? Nobody has been able to explain to me how this becomes a problem for us.

[Anonymous No.27577973]

>>27577879
>>27577716
We have nukes armies are redundant

[Anonymous No.27578057]

>>27577973
nukes are fake and gay

[Anonymous No.27578062]

>>27577879
>>27577659
We have nukes armies are redundant

[Anonymous No.27578122]

>>27565855
me too also nice digies

[Anonymous No.27578206]

>>27565696
>literally whoberg twitter commie
>reddit watermark
>still gets over 270 replies
sage

[Anonymous No.27578242]

>>27577879
economic output is power, a tyranical country that has ideologically justified conquest of other nations will grow beyond any other nations ability to contain.
the real world isn't like mario kart where you can get lapped and catch up. There are thresholds of no return there is a ratio between economies where 99% of war games go to one side.

I don't know what is going on same way I wouldn't have known about the Manhattan project or the feasibility of a no gold standard petro dollar. It's possible there's some strategy where you allow them to pump their economy at your expense and then pull off like a drug dealer. it seems more likely especially post bidens election that their is no significant power in the world on the side of freedom and we have to go to full blown global despotism before there is some kind of change in the cycle of civilization.
I don't know just trying to get as independent as possible

[Anonymous No.27578350]

>>27578062
there has been many wars since 1945.
economy is made even more critical taking Mutually assured destruction into account, see cold war

[Anonymous No.27578509]

>>27566109
it all boils down to this
use whatever words or isms to describe the situation but at the end of the day all societies mean most people have to give a share of their wealth back to society
we have now passed the point in our system where all the bullshit the peasants have to put up with isn't worth the hassle anymore, so our society is going tits up
it has happened before and it will happen again, its the same in most forms of government the elite hate the peasants and piss in their soup, but without peasants the elite are nothing

as to our exact problem you can have abused uneducated dumbfuck peasants to kick about, but you cannot humiliate educated knowledge workers with poverty tier wages forever, something is going to give soon

[Anonymous No.27578511]

>>27577795
>in 50 years or less we will all be at each other's throats. All is not well just because you have a white wife you cretin

Just look at Los Angeles. It's basically that right now. Each area is basically ethnic enclaves

[Anonymous No.27578602]

>>27571973
this

[Anonymous No.27578681]

>>27578509
>>27578242
pic related is relevant to this

they predict cryptocurrency enabling balkanization by giving no proper incentive for labor to stay in the system
they actually even suggest government would try prevent it by politicizing the flu

[Anonymous No.27578809]

>>27578242
Ok point taken but lets say china surpasses us economically, theyre not going to try and wage war against the west, the seecond most powerful group, they'll pick on smaller neighbouring states and quite frankly i dont care because im tired of us policing the world. It is a burden that is rinsing ordinary people dry and making us implode from within. We gain nothing from being at top, only the elites do.
>>27578350
There hasn't been any serious, full blown wars between two nuclear powers as far as i can tell, definitely not involving any western countries. Its just been proxy wars, us bullying third-world shitholes or them fucking eachother up.

[Anonymous No.27578891]

>>27569475
Me. I just know communism is not going to work before we have unlimited resources and robots to replace all the jobs nobody wants to do. Communism is literally a post-scarcity ideology, any sooner than that and it will always backfire horribly.

So I'd rather game the current system and make enough money to live comfortably.

[Anonymous No.27578895]

>>27578511
Well that is historically how LA was built. And cops were used to enforce the segregation.

[Anonymous No.27578999]

>>27578809
the anon your replying to is correct, it's not a question of policing the world but its resources which are fundamental to any economy and most wars have been proxy wars for those resources.

[Anonymous No.27579073]

>>27578809
waging war against other states is waging war against the us, its domino theory of the cold war. If china takes hong kong and taiwan and vietnam and the phillipines its economy becomes untennable to contain and nek minute you're being put in a chinese work camp and donating one of your kidneys to the collective
>>27578809
proxy wars and the chinese and us military budget demonstrate how the army is not redundant despite nuclear weapons
>>27578891
communism is last centuries marketing for autocracy. This century we've got klaus' environmentalism (give away your property rights to stakeholders to stop climate change.
It isn't any different than give away your property rights to the government to stop class inequality or give away your property rights to government to be kill the jews
they don't care what makes you support autocracy they just want you to support autocracy until it's too late to change your mind

[Anonymous No.27579119]

>>27566148
Yup, free money and government subsidizing have ruined education and created a debt problem in the US.

[Anonymous No.27579220]

This, just made 16k UNI from airdrop, sold a 8 while a week later he went to 18.

[Anonymous No.27579263]

>>27565949
And communism is waiting at the breadline, sucking some bureaucrat cock and 5 years waiting list to receive a shitty car.

[Anonymous No.27579357]

>waahhh capitalism is bad because I have to work

She and everyone on this board is a societal leech

[Anonymous No.27579376]

>>27578511
Not only the US too. In europe you have ethnic conflics flaring up in pockets all over which will only get worse as "multiculturalism" increases. Far-right sentiments are growing all over the western world for a reason
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CUbZVP2lQzE

[Anonymous No.27579495]

>>27579357
this is kind of true.
it's like linkies getting excited about the WEF. If the wef succeeds you won't get to keep your linkies

[Anonymous No.27579529]

>>27572452
pwned