Why are rain barrels illegal in the US?

[Anonymous No.27242773]

Almost as if someone want to sell you water too on top of everything else

[Anonymous No.27242886]

On a large enough scale water collection does fuck with the water table and natural flow, especially for people downstream. Same reason you aren't allowed to dam rivers and streams just because they pass through your property

[Anonymous No.27242953]

>>27242886
but i mean how many barrels of rain can one houshold really horde anyways. usually people dont have more than one or two. in most of america it rains enough that this shouldnt cause a problem

[Anonymous No.27243105]

Depends where you live. I don't live in Cuckifornia so no worries here.

[Anonymous No.27243128]

>>27242773
Blame jewifornia. Up here in canada I have 2 barrels I use to water my legal weed

[Anonymous No.27243136]

>>27242953
yes one household collecting rainwater wouldn't effect the water table, but entire neighborhoods putting out rainwater collection barrels would have an impact

[Anonymous No.27243248]

>>27243136
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't do this stop ocean levels from rising? If we collect the water on land it doesn't drain off to the ocean. We're saving the environment

[Anonymous No.27243260]

What does this have to do with rubic?

[Anonymous No.27243311]

>>27242953

I think the bigger concern/reasoning for these laws is large farms doing it (especially out in the western states with more arid climates) with massive collection setups, not necessarily individuals.

[Anonymous No.27243327]

>>27243136
kek there are already droughts with the managing of water by the public servants, but they prefer to say their system is still better than people actually using rain water

[Anonymous No.27243372]

Water law in general is actually pretty wild if you have time to kill reading up on it

[Anonymous No.27243446]

>>27242886
>>27243136
>the jew fears the water collector

[Anonymous No.27243474]

>>27242773
They're not.

[Anonymous No.27243527]

>>27242773
Collecting water from rain is illeagl in murica, kek muh freedom!!!

[Anonymous No.27243540]

>>27243248
You have a legitimate mental handicap....

[Anonymous No.27243547]

>>27243248
oceans are too big to be significantly impacted by rainwater collection, oceans are rising largely due to the melting of glaciers. Whereas the water table is a much more local thing and can be significantly impacted by rainwater collection, which is bad for the local environment.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/721357/

[Anonymous No.27243556]

>>27242773

[Anonymous No.27243561]

>>27242773
they aren't. Next thread

[Anonymous No.27243579]

>>27243248
Holy shit this man is a genius.

[Anonymous No.27243581]

>>27242773
The jew fears it

[Anonymous No.27243585]

>>27242773
The jew fears the rain barrels stacker

[Anonymous No.27243630]

>>27242773
Not in Michigan

[Anonymous No.27243644]

>set out illegal rain barrels
>start collecting used plastic water bottles
>fill used plastic water bottles with rain barrel water
>sell for $.75 a pop

you're welcome

[Anonymous No.27243689]

>>27243311
from a commercial standpoint I could sort of get it, but for a normal house?

The land of the free is a joke

[Anonymous No.27243694]

In Florida they are banned because of mosquito control. If we had rain barrels we would have malaria and yellow fever. Thats what the jews claim. Personally, I drink directly from my gutters.

[Anonymous No.27243704]

>>27243547
yeah how many decades since florida was underwater? 3?
>I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!!

[Anonymous No.27243741]

>>27243248
Fuck is that true? I will mount a garden hose to my water tap and will proceed to just let it run to save those poor dolphins. Thanks for the eye-opening my friend.

[Anonymous No.27243762]

>>27243248
no, because ocean levels are not rising. and why would the environment suffer from the ocean level rising?

[Anonymous No.27243779]

>>27243248
why do you want to stop the ocean levels from rising? They're too low as it is, they're supposed to be higher.

[Anonymous No.27243847]

>>27243248
what if we just drank all the water instead

[Anonymous No.27244051]

>>27243704
36-40 million years ago Florida was entirely underwater, which is 3.6-4 million decades

[Anonymous No.27244063]

>>27242886
This is beyond retarded. I don't live in in the land of the (brain)free. We collect water from the roof which would just go into the nearest river. Once the tank is full the excess can flow off. Even in really dry summers these tanks fill up with just a single summer storm while the soil is not able to absorb this water. The problem in the US is simply that you fuckheads use WAY too much water. Pools, lawns and all that shit in the middle of the fucking desert. Of course because burgerboomers are retarded and would never compromise their lifestyle that was advertised to them. Instead they forbid raincollection, since it's more "efficient" if you use tapwater which makes the city money all the while this water comes from groundwater that takes decades to centuries to recover.

[Anonymous No.27244121]

>>27243248
this is why you should never empty your piss bottles

[Anonymous No.27244156]

>>27243547
>oceans are rising largely due to the melting of glaciers.
Lol brain dead idiot

[Anonymous No.27244210]

what the fuck is this thread lmao

[Anonymous No.27244281]

They aren't illegal everywhere. There are extremely old laws some places (mainly the southwest) that have to do with how much water is in the watershed of a particular river. The rain that falls over the entire catchment basin for that river is subject to these laws and are renegotiated regularly by counties, states and even in between US and Mexico.
Stupid, yeah, but that's the way it goes.

[Anonymous No.27244379]

>>27244063
imagine being so assblasted that you dont live in the US

[Anonymous No.27244424]

>>27244156
I'm not making a political statement, I'm posting the information that I have seen and believe. I'm not even saying that sea level rise is an issue, I'm just saying it's happening.

[Anonymous No.27244443]

>>27243547
>melting glaciers

Anon do me a favor. Run water in a cup. Then place ice in the cup till the water hits the top edge of the cup. Then let the ice melt will the water spill over? No.
Glaciers melting aren't going to make water levels rise you idiot.

[Anonymous No.27244528]

>>27243136

Retard, the barrels don't contain a black hole within them. Once they fill up any water that is used from them is water not used from the tap, the same amount of water is being used, except the city doesn't like it because now they can't charge you for it.

The only way in which this fucked with the "water table" is if you somehow managed to get a hundred thousand people to install several barrels at the same it. And even then the problem would last for maybe a few months.

[Anonymous No.27244534]

>>27243248
Flood Death Valley while you’re at it.

Offset sea level rise.

Purify the ocean of salt/filter salt to just have a million tons of salt just lie around.

Tidal forces & gravity generates turbine power along the trip.

[Anonymous No.27244546]

>>27242773
I never see any articles or cases about a simple barrel or cistern used for rain water.
I have seen the famous 'man fined for collecting rain water' article but what people never mention is that he had a 40 acre cistern and was eventually sentenced for lying in court at the tail end of an 11 year legal dispute.
Plus he was in commie Oregon.

[Anonymous No.27244698]

>>27244424
Do you have any idea how slow that rate is? 300 years for a 1 meter rise? Based on only 25 years of data? When tides regularly go up and down a meter anyway? And we know how to build dikes and seawalls.

It's bullshit designed to scare idiots into voting for more taxes.

[Anonymous No.27244835]

>>27242773
How much trouble can you yanks get into for installing one of those?

[Anonymous No.27244844]

I'm in florida everyone has one here... not sure about liberal cuck states but i assume where it is restricted/enforced.

[Anonymous No.27244879]

>>27244443
This is true for glaciers that are just floating in the ocean, but there is a large amount of glacier ice that is on land, eg. greenland.
Picture that instead of putting the ice cube in the cup you are holding the ice cube above it, when the ice cube melts it would add water into the cup and cause a small amount to spill over the edge.

[Anonymous No.27244889]

>>27244063
Rent free..

[Anonymous No.27244937]

>>27244835
Worst case scenario they put a lien on your property and the sheriff escorts some city workers to dismantle it. Maybe some jail time for contempt of court but probably not.

[Anonymous No.27244960]

>>27242773
Who could this hidden merchant be?

[Anonymous No.27245022]

>>27244443

Lol. Run water in a cup and then observe it freezing. The water level in the cup goes down as the ice increases. The water level in the cup goes up as the ice melts.

[Anonymous No.27245041]

>>27243847
dumb move bro, just stop pissing and water levels all over the world stop rising cause there's nothing going back into the system.

[Anonymous No.27245048]

>>27244443
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-a-glacier?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
>A glacier is a large, perennial accumulation of crystalline ice, snow, rock, sediment, and often liquid water that originates on land and moves down slope under the influence of its own weight and gravity.
>on land
Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.27245114]

>>27245022
ice expands as it freezes

[Anonymous No.27245119]

>>27243694
>Florida
>a state almost entirely made of swamp where mosquitos already nutrally thrive.
>"nooo goyim you musnt collect rain in an enclosed water barrel, think of the mosquitos you will be breeding"

[Anonymous No.27245143]

>>27244379
Thanks. Not everyone wants to live in the USA. Would've loved to before globohomo though.
>>27244443
>>27244698
Prime examples of retards. What is ice on top of a land mass ? What are other measurements of water level besides fucking satellites that are approx. 70 years in existence ?
Sure smells like reddit in here.

[Anonymous No.27245175]

>>27242773
How do I make money off this?

[Anonymous No.27245177]

>>27245114

What's your point

[Anonymous No.27245187]

>>27243248
Kek. We also should ship water to mars to avoid sea level to rising.

[Anonymous No.27245243]

>>27243547
You sound like a Jew. How is rainfall in the ocean insignificant but one student or even one neighborhood collecting rain is going to upset the entire area? You’re retarded.

[Anonymous No.27245322]

>>27245143
None of that has anything to do with my post. 300 years for a 1 meter rise, based on less than a century's worth of data, is a bullshit prediction designed to scare idiots into voting for more taxes. I'm sorry that you're one of those idiots but you need to calm down and realize that technology can mitigate literally every negative effect of climate change, and will do so without any government intervention, simply through the free market because of how slow even your doomsday scenarios play out.

[Anonymous No.27245343]

>>27243547
No, most of it is thermal expansion

[Anonymous No.27245485]

>>27244698
Honestly in most cases I would agree with you, it's only something to worry about for communities that live really close to sea level, and even then they can build dikes in the 100 years it takes to rise 1 foot

[Anonymous No.27245487]

>>27245322
I'm not afraid of climate change bullshit and well aware of the taxations bullshittery of pretty much every country. I don't live on a coast so I couldn't give two shits anyway.

[Anonymous No.27245577]

>>27243547
Lmao the only one with actual sense in this thread and retards who listen to FoxXy news think they're different from the "i fucking love sczienza" crowd. Can't make this shit up hahahhahah

[Anonymous No.27245620]

>>27243248
That's genius and if we froze it we could easily stack it somewhere

[Anonymous No.27245623]

>>27245487
>I don't live on a coast so I couldn't give two shits anyway.
Clearly you do care because you're regurgitating propaganda to get a false sense of moral superiority. Stop doing that.

[Anonymous No.27245637]

>>27242773
[citation needed]

I've never seen rain barrels where I live, but it barely ever rains here.

[Anonymous No.27245765]

>>27244051
how'd they get a colored picture so many years ago?

[Anonymous No.27245782]

>>27244528
>American public education

[Anonymous No.27245967]

>>27245487
Most of the infrastructure that provides you with your every days needs is located on a coast.

[Anonymous No.27245989]

>>27245487
>3 posts full of "i couldn't give two shits"
Is this /pol/?

[Anonymous No.27246014]

>>27244835
OP is fucking lying.

[Anonymous No.27246111]

It isn't as bad as people make it out to be

[Anonymous No.27246162]

>>27245243
The ocean is very big, and the water flows freely. Local groundwater moves more slowly because it's filtering through the ground. So if you live in an area that doesn't get a lot of rainfall and there's thousands of people collecting rainwater it causes the local groundwater to deplete. When I say local I only mean the immediate area around the town. One person collecting rainwater wouldn't make a difference, but if you legalize rainwater collection for a municipality then it wouldn't be just one person. At the end of the day the decision is made by local government based on the environmental information they have. It's legal where I live because we get lots of rain.

[Anonymous No.27246270]

>>27245765
i think you mean (((they)))

[Anonymous No.27246310]

>>27245119
A lot of the swamps were drained in Florida to curtail the mosquito population which is the only reason the state is hospitable. Even so, Disney World needs 24/7 mosquito surveillance for example since mosquitoes are still a big problem

[Anonymous No.27246346]

>>27243644
A mere .75c for my homestead sourced organic water? OOOOOYYYYY VEEEEEYYYY!!

[Anonymous No.27246363]

>>27243694
I thought we had malaria medicine now?

[Anonymous No.27246381]

>>27243547
Oceans aren't even rising though.

[Anonymous No.27246488]

>>27245620
You're as big of an idiot. Water expands when it freezes.

[Anonymous No.27246495]

>>27244051
In the time of the dinosaurs there were no polar ice caps; it was a completely tropical planet. That changed after the Azolla event
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azolla_event

[Anonymous No.27246504]

>>27243105
>>27243128
But they aren't illegal in California, and many cities actually give them to residents to try to minimize water demand during droughts.

[Anonymous No.27246509]

>>27246111
https://pioneerwatertanks.com.au/is-collecting-rainwater-illegal-in-california-ca/

[Anonymous No.27246758]

>>27246509
The link confirms the graphic, thanks for wasting my time

[Anonymous No.27246772]

>>27246111
Trips of truth. My city actually gave us a rain barrel to use for free. The whole no rainwater storage meme comes from some guy who constructed an illegal dam on a river that ran thru his property and got in trouble for it. Of course the internet turned that into TOTAL FEDERAL PROHIBITION OF RAIN BARRELS.

[Anonymous No.27246801]

>>27246758
np man

[Anonymous No.27246995]

I'm hoping not to have any trouble with this because I intend to use a bigass cement cistern and have a gravity fed setup. I never heard that rain is illegal in my state so it should be OK. It will all be returned through French drains or a septic tank so they really have no way of proving a crime was committed. Don't we have the right to face the victim of our criminal behavior in courts? Not exactly a fair trial if there is no victim. Anyone dumb enough to try I'll sue for trying to steal water from my property. No matter the basis of their claims to victimhood it relies solely on them taking into their possession my water from my property. The fucker then becomes the fucked.

[Anonymous No.27247081]

>>27242773
You can literally buy rainwater barrels in home depot and millions of people use them I have 3 set up what in the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.27247163]

>>27246995
we can always sue them in kleros court

[Anonymous No.27247180]

I Collect Rainwater in Southern California. What are you chuds going to do about it? Come put me in jail faggot

[Anonymous No.27247213]

>>27246111
>water rights

What?

[Anonymous No.27247306]

>>27243248
really hope this is bait, retard

[Anonymous No.27247360]

>>27242773
Am I missing out on something? I have never had a reason to collect rain-water.

[Anonymous No.27247467]

everyones water heater has gallons of water in it already. collecting rain water prevents the water table from being replenished meaning you'll be forced from the lands once they dry up. the best thing to do is not collect rain water, but figure out how to make it rain without jets and cloud seeding, once you accomplish that, you will have all the water you need. the ocean gives if you can figure out how to make it give. the area i'm in now just got a shit load of water and it's because i figured out how to make it rain. don't ask, won't tell, i'm not in the mood.

[Anonymous No.27247489]

>>27247360
Can you really not think of a usecase for free drinking water?

[Anonymous No.27247498]

PUMP it

[Anonymous No.27247527]

>>27247489
I mean I can, but water isn't exactly killing my bank account.

[Anonymous No.27247589]

>>27247527
Some people garden or farm on their properties which consumes a lot of water

[Anonymous No.27247640]

>>27243248
the barrels will weight down earth and push it into ocean, doesnt really matte if the water rises or ground lowers

[Anonymous No.27247896]

>>27247360
If you have a garden you keep one out there to water your plants. I've ever heard of people drinking rain water, but I'm also not american so iunno.

[Anonymous No.27248250]

>>27242773
Rain belongs to the Federal Government. You are stealing federal property.

[Anonymous No.27248602]

If a household can do it, it means a 500 acre farm can capture all of the water in his watershed, screwing over all the farmers downstream from his watershed.
Sorry, this issue is too complex for 99% of the absolute brainlet nigger cattle on 4chan, so they will obviously have brazen and ignorant opinions on it.

[Anonymous No.27248658]

>>27245177
that you're a dum dum I guess

[Anonymous No.27248766]

>>27243689
I dont think anyone is going to kick your door in over a barrel under your gutter runoff....
Idk does this actually happen?

[Anonymous No.27248780]

>>27242886
You do realize that the same amount of water goes into a and out of a dammed river as would without the dam, right? The difference is that there is a larger initial collection.

[Anonymous No.27248795]

>>27247360
You can freeze it and make ice, or heat it and make steam. You are thinking too small here my friend. Really rain water is just regular water. That's what they try to keep secret from you, but it's the truth! If you get enough water saved up then in theory you should even be able to make your own swimming pool. Now how cool is that? Not cool enough? Freeze some of that rain and make ice, then add it to the pool. Now it's cool! And so are you once you have your own pool.

[Anonymous No.27248830]

If you notice that the only places with retarded regulations are the places with a retarded amount of people. If everyone did this stuff then it would disturb a balance of nature.

[Anonymous No.27248909]

>>27242773
apparently rain water will fuck you up since it lacks nutrients and will pull that shit straight from your body when you drink it
I did not know that

[Anonymous No.27248918]

>>27247360
>>Am I missing out on something? I have never had a reason to collect rain-water.
because once bureaucrats hear you collect rain water, they literally come to your house in a hurry saying that YOU WILL BE CONNECTED TO THE WATER NETWORK and if you refuse they will take money from you and destroy your installation and make you pay to get connected to their network.

[Anonymous No.27248992]

Rain barrels are encouraged and/or subsidized in placed that aren't pants on the hand retarded. I believe that in Belgium rain water tanks are even mandatory for newly built homes.

[Anonymous No.27248998]

>>27248909
wow thanks for looking out for me, big daddy gubinment!

[Anonymous No.27249113]

>>27248766
I know someone that has several in Florida. They're out of sight from the street and the neighbors and nobody knows to give a shit.

[Anonymous No.27249198]

>>27248998
Go crazy senpai drink barrels of rain water just add nutrients(?) I guess
>also drinking from plastic

[Anonymous No.27249282]

THE LAND OF THE FREEE

[Anonymous No.27249328]

Holy fuck why are so many posts in this thread so retarded

[Anonymous No.27249435]

>>27249328
Chronic dehydration.

[Anonymous No.27249560]

>>27242886
This post is beyond retarded.

[Anonymous No.27250634]

>>27242773
it is illegal in israel
very weird thing desu

[Anonymous No.27251915]

>>27243248
We need to get this brilliant development in environmental policy onto Joe Biden's desk for IMMEDIATE APPROVAL!! Let's get it done people, save the planet!

[Anonymous No.27252132]

>>27246346
The Jew fears the bargain discount rainwater reseller

[Anonymous No.27252181]

>>27242773
they are not illegal, except in communist shit holes like CA.

[Anonymous No.27252654]

>>27252181
yeah imagine living in commiefornia

[Anonymous No.27252886]

>>27249328
This is what happens when you let redditors attempt to think for themselves instead of follow a predirected format of thinking

[Anonymous No.27252963]

The jews fear the rain barrel collectors

[Anonymous No.27253237]

>>27242886
it really doesn't though. you think peoples compacted soil under grass is absorbing hardly any rain at all? most rain runs right through suburban landscapes into the ocean. the water table isn't being replenished on most peoples property whether or not they collect rainwater.

[Anonymous No.27253365]

>>27243689
Grow up kid.

[Anonymous No.27253513]

>>27248909
Who the fuck drinks rainwater?

[Anonymous No.27254361]

Main water supply is a closed circuit.
The used water goes back to the treatment plants and purifying it again is the water company 's main cost.
If you send them (free) used rain water, they will have to treat it and send it back into the main supply.
They don't want to take on the cost of treating water that wasn't billed and paid for.

[Anonymous No.27254811]

>>27242886
in urban and suburban areas, rainwater collection would help tremendously in regards to stormwater management issues due to the higher percentage of impervious surfaces such as roofs, pavement, and sidewalks

[Anonymous No.27255791]

>>27249113
>nobody knows
>I know someone

Seems like people know