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Positive and negative sentiments by all Hot and New Posts. Data is polled every 5 minutes.

Credit: RSA Key - 4362e47e831d7ff8db78bb263476ed1b

>> No.27034110

>>27034017
Sample Size = 30k

>> No.27034442

>>27034017
Also sorry for color scheme - Can't control the SQL Dataviewer output color. It's random.

>> No.27034572

HOLD but try not to cope

>> No.27035066

>>27034017
What can I do with this information?

>> No.27035179

>>27035066
You can use it to judge the sentiment of how people are feeling. Loosely you can assume people are happy with holding.

>> No.27035739
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27035739

>>27035179
WHEN DO I SELL

>> No.27035852

>>27035739
I'll try post these as often as I can, but when negative sentiment > positive sentiment for a sustained period.

>> No.27036073

>>27034017
data would be more useful if it was smoothed to reduce noise.

>> No.27036088
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27036088

Isn't it super useful that all the goys assembled in one place and are now publicly showing which ideas they support with upvotes and which they don't. Very convenient

>> No.27036312

>>27035739
Never. The only way it works is if retail holds until the faults in the system start liquidating big players or lead to bail outs.

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27036457

>>27034017
5:25pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27036591

Can I view this live somewhere?

>> No.27036652

>>27034017
>Sentiment Analysis
What's the tech stack here? The libraries?

>> No.27036779

>>27036457
What's up with the dates and times? All kinds of fucked up.

>> No.27036856

>>27036652
I have to stay Anon but this is a tech firm we own. Google BigQuery + custom scrappers.

>> No.27037037

>>27036779
We use Unix timestamps, it's impossible to put every single time on the board - its a best summary.

>> No.27037199

>>27036591
If I had more time I would have this as a live front-end. But the turnaround time for something this sudden is the best I can do.

>> No.27037381

>>27036779
And the timezone reflects where the servers are. Use my comment for the latest time the edge of the graph relates to.

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27037790

5:35pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27038007
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27038007

doing gods work anon thanks for this

>> No.27038339

This is based as fuck, thanks a lot anon

>> No.27038374

they couldn't have picked a worse color scheme

>> No.27038450
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27038450

>>27034017
That is based as fuck anon.

>> No.27038543

>>27038374
I managed to fix it, look around for my comments every 10 minutes.

>> No.27038597

>>27035852
Actually its best to sell when the negative sentiment is too positive

>> No.27038796

>>27036312

unironically this.

>> No.27038831

>>27038597
True. I'll try provide this to give you guys calls. In reality there's no easy way to see when people sell, unless you do this lmao.

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27039083

5:44pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27039461

5:55 GMT +0 29th

No Movement.

>> No.27039605

>>27039461
*5:45

>> No.27039687

>>27034017
nice now I can see that your sentiment analysis model is shit.

>> No.27039789

>>27039687
faggot

>> No.27040007

What price do we need to be above to win?

>> No.27040221
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27040221

5:50pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27040239

>>27034017
can you overlay with stock price?

>> No.27040358

>>27034017
wen /biz/ telegram group with frequent sentiment analysis?

>> No.27040504

>>27040239
I'm afraid I can't combine the reddit timestamp to an accurate enough ticker. Would have worked that out if I had more time.

>> No.27040668

>>27040221
tell us what dictionary and method you used + please index the numbes or use a natural logarithm

thank you

>> No.27040884

>>27040668
AFINN, would have used something better if I had more time. Already did some padding to ensure curse words don't tank it too much.

>> No.27041098

>>27040668
would have just cheesed it up with gcp natural language if there was again, more time. But will try to improve charts

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27041247

5:56pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27041409
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27041409

Better or worse?

>> No.27041751

>>27040884
>>27041098
Thanks. I think the current iteration would be almost perfect with indexing. Do you ever run sentiment analysis on /biz/?

>> No.27042249

>>27041409
way better

>> No.27042384

>>27041409
Much better. Displaying proportions side-by-side with these indexed graphs would probably improve it even further. Another idea could be using a short rolling average to smoothen the lines.

>> No.27043703
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27043703

Working on getting it properly displayed. Using old just to report numbers.

6:15pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27044378

>>27041751
I run a lot of data around Gab, Parler (RIP), and pol. As well of a lot of reddit subs.

>> No.27044764
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27044764

New Visual - 100% Stacked.

6:22pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27044763

>>27043703
going to be real interesting as the day goes on

>> No.27044911

>>27044764
Dates are fucked by parser. Ignore. Latest are on the far right, going to left

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27045201

6:25pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27045275

>>27044911
what exactly is the criteria for "positive" or "negative" sentiment? counting from a list of "good works" or "bad words"? posts? comments? replies to comments? upvotes given to positive comments?

>> No.27045439

>>27045275
AFINN sentiment dictionary offset by votes if a rough criteria is found.

>> No.27045665

>>27045439
Simple balance of power from negative words to positive words. Then checked against upvotes, while excluding top five curse words use on WSB like retard etc.

>> No.27045687

>>27044764
We should begin isolating bot posts from real people. Thinking as the enemy here this graph represents to me all the bots i need to flood reddit 4chan and twitter with to reverse sentiment and get you retards to sell.

Dont fall for the bots and dont be the retard who sells. We WANT to be holding stock because thats how theyre stuck holding the bag.

Every time they double down they delay our gains by a few weeks BUT they still bleed on their current shorts interest AND they will have to pay EVEN MORE when the new shorts at 200% come time to squeeze. If we sell on these shorts for 15k or whatever we lose the opportunity to squeeze for the 100k on these new shorts that will require even longer holding pattern.
We have jobs right? We can hold for a month or two or three. Hell we can even buy more periodically.

>> No.27045856

>>27045439
i put this leddit copypasta into an AFINN sentiment analyzer, it gives me NEGATIVE (-1) when it is clearly a post that endorses buying and holding GME

SHORT STOCK DOESN'T HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE

Hedgefund whales are spreading disinfo saying Friday is make-or-break for $GME. Call options expiring ITM on Friday will drive the price up if levels are maintained, but may not trigger the short squeeze.

It may be Friday, but it could be next week the we see the real squeeze.

DON'T PANIC IF THE SQUEEZE DOESN'T HAPPEN FRIDAY.

It's not guaranteed to. The only thing that is guaranteed mathematically is that the shorts will have to cover at some point in the future. They are trying to get enough people hooked on the false expectation of Friday so that if/when it doesn't happen, enough will sell out of panic/despair. DON'T BE THAT PERSON.

WE LIKE THE STOCKKEEP HOLDING UNTIL THEY FEEL THE PAIN, WHETHER THAT'S FRIDAY OR NEXT WEEK5,000+

https://darenr.github.io/afinn/

how do you account for stuff like this?

>> No.27045881

>>27045201
make a website with this doing auto update pls nigger

>> No.27046384

>>27045856
Yeah, it's was hard to account for initally. Same deal with "YOU RETARDS SHOULD HOLD". We use a lot of word substitution methods we employ for our content moderation protect that is months more mature than this. So yes, you are correct - we have done our very best to account for that. But I hope this can give you a little insight into WSB en masse.

>> No.27046820

>>27034017
I love this, how about smoothing it out?

>> No.27048399

>>27039083
expose an api via ngrok Ill have a live frontend up for you in 30 min

>> No.27048594

can you post the project link? I wanna download it.

>> No.27048666

>>27045665
>>27045439
>>27045201
>>27044911
>>27044764
>>27044764
>>27044378
>>27043703
>>27041409
>>27041247
>>27041098
>>27040884
>>27040221
>>27040504
>>27039605
>>27039461
>>27039083
>>27038831
where are you getting this data? You built a python bot/ML bot scraping comments, giving them a rating, and then generating charts locally on your machine?

can you expose your data an as ngrok http endpoint (https://ngrok.com/)) and I can have a charts.js live html page up quick

https://www.chartjs.org/

>> No.27048729

>>27046384
just curious, what does a normal week look like on WSB? like maybe a month ago?

>> No.27048997

>>27034017
When did your firm first make this tracker? Are they making money off of it or is it just a novelty?

>> No.27049043

>>27048666
don't mass quote you fag

>> No.27049484
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27049484

Cool.
Now fuck off. I swear to God if you fucking migrant-niggers turn this into another reddit-colony like /v/ and /pol/ I'm going to fucking shoot Hiro

>> No.27050197

>>27045856
>Hedgefund whales are spreading disinfo saying Friday is make-or-break for $GME
it's you people who have been saying this all the time.

>> No.27051224

>>27048666
fuck off retard

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7:05pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27052838

>>27048729
We've only data since the 27th unfortunately.

>> No.27052977

>>27048997
We make money off of the core tech that does content moderation. We happy that we allow people who maybe have different political views to not be flagged because of word choice. I just used a small part of that in creating a 1-day build scraper for WSB.

>> No.27053216

>>27048666
>https://ngrok.com/
I wish I could do that, but our parsing engines are designed for dumping into Google BigQuery to allow us to do these immediate insights all the while- streaming data into them.

I'm sorry, if I had more time, I would have done this proper justice with a nice react website.

>> No.27053438

>>27045856
In that light you should assume that negative sentiment is even less than we're showing. But if negative sentiment exceeds, say, 70% then we know its true negativity.

>> No.27053667

>>27048666
We call our scrapper Chandon, we might release it someday! But it's used to do full scrapping, cleaning, assembly, CSV building, NLP model building and testing.

>> No.27053763

>>27052977
So where is this technology used exactly? I could see it being used on 4chan itself

>> No.27053916

kek, if you don’t understand how to go for money with crypto volume on crypto just clear your wallet and fuck off from this thread

cmon, I am too good to believe in this shit, that’s why I will go for my BASE on uniswap and use Cascade for amazing profit with passive rewards

>> No.27054028

>>27053763
Again I don't want to blow the whole anon vibe, because I like my life - But we allow platforms to have insane insights into their own users data. Basically at a low-mid-tier facebook capacity. As part of that we do content moderation which is a big thing we're proud of.

>> No.27054030

nigga its all blue

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7:19pm GMT +0 29th

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27054856

7:22pm GMT +0 29th

Note: Charts may not line up in order. (ie this versus the one before) It depends on the rate at which we clear newly streamed comments into their correct timeslots.

>> No.27054882

>>27054028
Are you creeped out by any of the capabilities of this software or is it mostly benign?

>> No.27055303

>>27054882
Well I was raised catholic, not practicing anything or even into that stuff - but I do believe I have a responsibility not to allow people to dick around with the platform we provide them. Like I'm not going to sell to the CCP any day soon. But with regards to it's safety - we're mostly benign until the use case comes along that maybe might make it concerning - say finding out who doesn't think a certain way etc. Right now our scrapping tech is pretty solid, and we've not pissed off our customers with our content moderation.

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7:27pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27055900

So based wtf

>> No.27056303
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27056303

7:32pm GMT +0 29th

>> No.27056936
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27056936

7:36pm GMT +0 29th

Top comments. Votes column is rendered incorrectly, they are sorted correctly.

>> No.27057268

>>27056936
They seem confident. Do you have the most disliked comments? I’m sure they would be interesting.

>> No.27057487

>>27034017
Are you happy? You are legit going to send the economy into a recession. The stock market is already in a fragile bubble because of deregulation under the Trump administration. The last thing we need in the middle of this pandemic is millions of people losing their pensions, 401k's, savings, and even mortgages. Worst of all is when this happens, Biden will be blamed, even though him and Yellen are trying to clean up this mess. They're going to block 'investors' like you out of the market

>> No.27057522

>>27057268
Reddit doesn't confirm downvotes on API until ages later - it's something for the after-party lmao

>> No.27057641

>>27034442
that's weird. a blue/green to red ratio would certainly look nicer. thanks for the info regardless anon

>> No.27057684

>>27057487
I bought one gamestonk, because I spent most of my time building POC's like this for the business. So I'm pretty okay with the lack of guilt. But damn they're gonna do it to the economy for sure.

>> No.27057706

>>27035739
when deepfuckingvalue sells

>> No.27058300

>>27057706
Amen

>> No.27058327

>>27057684
Any insight into what stock they might pump next? Seems like it's all gme for now

>> No.27058612

>>27058327
ask and you shall receive. one moment.

>> No.27058848

>>27057522
well that sucks. I find that often times negative sentiment can be more insightful than positive sentiment. Especially during a hyped up event.
It shows what the majority fears the most.

>> No.27058881

>>27057706
>when the guy who bought at like $5 sells
>when the guy who already made it sells
fucking hilarious

>> No.27060308

>>27058327
literally no one is talking about anything other than GME, AMC or BB. Too much noise other than that

>> No.27060391

>>27060308
Sadge

>> No.27060500

>>27060308
Crazy, it'll be interesting to see what they decide upon in the coming weeks once this madness is over

>> No.27060879
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7:59pm GMT +0 29th

Note: Confidence remains high, even after people were told that today was sell off day. Expect to see mass 180 sometime later today in aftermarket or Monday.

>> No.27061067

>>27060879
That's tonight's thread everyone. Will be back on Monday. Have a good and safe weekend.

>> No.27061295

>>27061067
Please continue this throughout the week. It’s going to be incredibly interesting to see where this goes.

>> No.27061603

>>27061067
Thanks, super good stuff.

>> No.27061750

>>27034017
why would you use 2 colors that lookk almost identical for a graph where the lines are overlapping you fucking retard

make one color different

>> No.27061812

>>27054028
>As part of that we do content moderation
fucking jannie

>> No.27061843

>>27060879
Cheers for your hard work!

>> No.27061883

>>27061067
Cheers buddy

>> No.27061961

>>27035739
maybe next week, maybe week after, maybe next month. it really depends on how long the hedges can sustain their 90 billion dollar losses every month

>> No.27062124

>>27061750
>makes an inane comment before reading a few posts

>> No.27062410

>>27035852
thank you bro

>> No.27063009

>>27036088
yeah, reddit is the optimal place for pumps, now it doesnt even matter if there is short interest or not, it will keep going up, its a cult, for now the cult has the short interest advantage so this will keep going for next week, probably 700/800