/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.26900433]

What does /biz/ think about pokemon card trading or hodling ?
Is it a moderate risk or a retarded move in your opinion ?

pic related sold for $360,000 a few days ago

[Anonymous No.26900675]

>>26900433
Pokemon was last years flavour of the month shitcoin. Your sell signal was that sweaty Logan Paul scammer fag.

Buy Silver.

[Anonymous No.26900866]

>>26900433
low demand and high supply
people hoard hundreds of cards dude
>>26900675
>Your sell signal was that sweaty Logan Paul scammer fag
this

[Anonymous No.26901048]

>>26900433
I've had this card for like 20 years.

My big brother got it in a booster pack back when we were kids. I was mad jelly. When he stopped collecting, he gave it to me. I've had it since. No idea if it's worth anything, but it's not like I'm gonna sell it.

[Anonymous No.26901128]

>>26900433
>Pokemon cards

[Anonymous No.26901251]

>>26900433
Fuck off Logan, absolutey no one is falling for your scam

[Anonymous No.26901274]

>>26901048
At least get it graded

[Anonymous No.26901328]

>>26900433
Pokémon is starting to become an amazing investment especially with Youtubers like the Paul brothers blowing it up.

I actually bought a Japanese set, pulled 2 of the flagship Charizards and i tripled my money I spent.

[Anonymous No.26901366]

>>26900433
My buddy works for Collector's Universe, the main company that grades these things, he says everyone and their mother has been cleaning out their closets during the pandemic and sending their old childhood cards in to be graded and the market is probably going to be flooded.

[Miku No.26901429]

Jesus Christ Logan fuck off nobody wants to buy your stupid turtle

[Anonymous No.26901559]

>>26900866
>>Your sell signal was that sweaty Logan Paul scammer fag
>this
lol is that why prices are higher now?

[Anonymous No.26901615]

I'm just making some baby money selling on eBay $50 "Pokemon Mistery Box" to 8 years old kids with shitty cards inside saying "1 out of 10 boxes you can find a Base Set/Team Rocket booster pack" or other bullshits

[Anonymous No.26901633]

>>26901274
Why?

[Anonymous No.26901645]

>>26901366
>Random shit cards handled by children
>Gradeworthy

Senpai that's not how it works. The man children from the golden era of mtg and pokemon are the ones grading gems. That bubble already popped too actually which was hilarious to see in real time on facebook.

[Anonymous No.26901680]

>>26901366
>the market is probably going to be flooded
with low graded cards

[Anonymous No.26901710]

>>26900433
Unironically buying and selling rare lands from Magic is a better investment for your money than Bitcoin 80% of the time.

[Anonymous No.26901787]

>>26901633
>Why?
why is making something worth more not a thing people want

[Anonymous No.26901878]

>>26901633
Cause it'll tell you if its worth anything.

[Anonymous No.26901895]

>>26901645
>That bubble already popped
lmao see >>26901559

[Anonymous No.26902013]

I own a couple thousand € in high rarity Yu-Gi-Oh cards. It's really difficult to sell them at market value, and the more expensive a card, the more a potential buyer will scrutinize it for little imperfections. Only worth it if you take really good care of your cards and actively trade.

[Anonymous No.26902066]

>>26900433
Unless you are already holding some then congratulations, you're the next bagholder. Better buy up those Charizards, you might break even or make a profit in a decade when the TCG cycle comes back.

[Anonymous No.26902110]

>>26900433
how can it sell for that much? I have my whole original set in mint condition still, only one shiny is not mint because i traded for it

[Anonymous No.26902270]

>buying slab shit

[Anonymous No.26902322]

>>26902066
If it's a bubble, then it's a bubble that's literally never burst. Look up historical prices of first gen MTG cards for example. Black Lotus did a 100x since I was a teenager.

[Anonymous No.26902746]

>>26902322
Because that is a product that was made more than 25 years ago and it's not coming back.

It's like some old supercars, specially europeans (ferrari, lambos), their value is their uniquess and that they are never gonna make them anymore.

You can gamble with them if you want, but you can get them in new packs ever. good luck getting somethin out of new and terrible overpriced charizards.

[Anonymous No.26902794]

>>26901710
This

MTG often gets labeled as a joke but last year caused a shitload of small time holders and stores to dump their legacy cards and old booster boxes. They don't play anymore, they got more than they paid for, they're out a job, etc.

However the thing that's still mostly underground is the big box market. just look at what Doom boxes are going for these days. I remember getting Doom II for something like 10 dollars a few years ago, now its always over 50 bucks. Original mail order or shareware boxes are in the hundreds now. Quake and Duke Nukem boxes are also seeing similar jumps. Blizzard boxes are holding fairly reasonable prices, though I guess that's mostly due to the large supply.

In a few years, you're gonna see a huge amount of hype into those thing. People are gonna be sharing images of people with bookshelfs filled with big boxes and how they found them all at a yardsale or whatever.

[Anonymous No.26902882]

>>26902013
>It's really difficult to sell them at market value
this and its proven throughout human history that people will buy rare "art"

[Anonymous No.26903040]

>>26900433
Magic has been a great investment for me and will continue to be.

[Anonymous No.26903230]

>>26901710
I have no memes made more from MTG than trading crypto. The problem is somehow understanding the MTG market is more time consuming than crypto.

[Anonymous No.26903624]

>>26903230
>understanding the MTG market is more time consuming than crypto.
LMAO brainlet
understand the meta and which cards will be used
there is a website for this

its predicting what the general masses will meme more of that is hard

in pokemon its easy, any pikachu and charizard card will hold more value. even the promo cards
the same for mtg (black lotus)

[Anonymous No.26903625]

>>26900433
bought like 40 boxes of Evolutions XY last month for $62 USD... they are now going for $150 plus, often more than that..

140% return on investment aint bad. Not sure if I should sell or let it ride. Dubs and ill sell a quarter

[Anonymous No.26903776]

>>26903625
fuck scalpers but am also jealous

[Anonymous No.26903931]

Oh, also coomer cards.
They sell like hotcakes.

[Anonymous No.26904018]

>>26901048
Not even 1st edition so it's not worth much maybe $50. You can buy the complete base set for less than $800

[Anonymous No.26904045]

>>26903624
Do you really think someone who doesn't play magic the gathering will have an easier time understanding what cards will hold value/go up compared to crypto? You legit just need to DCA into BTC/ETH if youre a normie to make money in crypto, with magic it's far more complicated.

[Anonymous No.26904182]

>>26900433
I want to look into the eyes of the retard who payed 360,000 for this little piece of paper.

Woulda they be soulless and empty, or black like a lizard's?

[Anonymous No.26904639]

>tfw I lost my binder full of Pokemon cards ages ago

[Anonymous No.26904930]

Pokemon is the biggest entertainment product in history, right? So it will remain popular for a long, long time and new generations of kids will always get into it. But the value is going to only last in owning those rare first edition cards in good condition. The value will rise and fall some, but they should remain valuable. The rest of the stuff will probably get too oversaturated I'd think.

[Anonymous No.26905141]

Where can I find a way to find what value my cards would be worth? is there a site that has all the info?

Where do I sell them for the best price?
I've always had autism for keeping things pristine, I even have my original SNES box still & my N64 box with all my game boxes in perfect condition

[Anonymous No.26905176]

>>26903776
"Scalping" helps the game be cheap though in the case of MTG and Pokemon. If Wizards normally prints 1 million booster boxes and there is a sudden surge in people buying the boxes purely for speculation, next set is gonna see a larger print run, meaning more cards in circulation and thus cheaper cards.

Real scalping would be if wizards made up some retarded rule where they said that they will never print more than X amount of a particular card and scalpers moved in and bought them all up.

[Anonymous No.26905319]

>>26904639
We all did anon. I legit had a binder filled with nothing but first edition cards. All of them were EX to NM since I didn't treat them like garbage.

[Anonymous No.26905388]

>>26905141
Look up ebay, see sold listings, learn how condition ratings work.

[Anonymous No.26905581]

>>26900433
Pokey mans are for niggers
Magic the Gathering is the choice of patricians

[Anonymous No.26905587]

>>26905141
cardmarket.eu is one of the best resources for TCGs

[Anonymous No.26906069]

>>26904045
back in 97 I traded my set of moxes, my lotus, my time twister, and god knows how many double lands, for a fucken modded PS1 and 15 games

[Anonymous No.26906298]

>>26900433
I have some of the limited cards that came out when the first movie came out in the cinemas & I can't see it anywhere on sites listed for its price

[Anonymous No.26906617]

>>26900433
It screams money laundering to me. Like how the mega rich buy shitty paintings for $30,000,000

[Anonymous No.26906860]

>>26906298
you mean like the ancient mew promo? Those aren't worthless but they're not charizard.

[Anonymous No.26907411]

>>26901710
As a Magic player, eat shit "investor"
>>26904045
The most profitable way to make money on MTG that requires literally 0 effort is buying sealed product. Buy any sealed product, hold 5 years, the price will double. Speculating on old or tournament cards is extremely volatile and not wise to do without knowledge of game or talking to someone who does. Moreover, the current Magic market is inflated to fuck from dipshits like yourself, a price correction is extremely likely as the actual demand from players for these old cards is satiated and investors are left bagholding cards for a playerbase that doesn't need or want any more. Reserved List is probably the exception to this, and certain esoteric lists of cards like TN cards with an artificially capped supply. Buy sealed product, it is massive return with practically no knowledge or oversight required, and there are tons of places online that will happily snap up sealed product from 5+ years ago.

[Anonymous No.26908470]

>>26903931
>coomer cards
dat waifu tax

[Anonymous No.26908696]

>>26904182
>I want to look into the eyes of the retard
he is richer than you can ever dream of and would spit where you have stood
and thats even if you get lucky being near someone as rich

[Anonymous No.26908901]

>>26907411
Want to buy a shit load of sealed from the vault angels? I won't even charge you double I just want my money back.

[Anonymous No.26909450]

>>26908901
I've never understood buying from the vault or any product that didn't involve randomization of any kind. Genuinely, why did you buy your shit bag in the first place?

[Anonymous No.26910554]

>>26901633
Don't bother. That's your brother's gift to you. Keep it to remember him by. If you can, test yourself.
See if you can sell it after he dies.
It'll be worth even more then.
Challenge yourself to live a healthy long life. Challenge yourself with keeping the card safe, then challenge yourself to part ways with it.

[Anonymous No.26911103]

Any thoughts on the new Digimon card game thats about to launch?

[Anonymous No.26911318]

i just made $50 off of 2 pokemon cards that i had laying around
it's a decent amount for me

[Anonymous No.26911569]

>>26911103
There are no thoughts about it. New card games start up all the time. They last a few years and then die. Only thing you can do is maybe play the game and save the cards and maybe a box of sealed products just for fun.

[Anonymous No.26911698]

>>26911569
People like Digimon, I was thinking of setting a booster box aside

[Anonymous No.26912308]

>>26911698
Digimon isn't pokemon and pokemon isn't magic. I'd recommend getting a box of kaldheim over this new game. But yeah, get a box if you can afford it and just put in on your book shelf or something.

[Anonymous No.26912625]

>>26911698
Buy a few boxes set them aside and wait 10 or so years for a nostalgia bump sell then. Really only way. The fucking DBZ game shat on my finances cuz everyone was hyping it up and was like we're gonna play it. Died quick as fuck. MTG and pkmn are the only games that will survive until there's another popular as fuck thing similar to pkmn but even then it won't be as much of a hit especially with everything going digital.
>Phone post

[Anonymous No.26912831]

>>26901633
To put it in a nice plastic case

[Anonymous No.26912962]

>>26903625
What are you talking about, evolutions booster boxes retailed for 86 and now go for 860

[Anonymous No.26913049]

>>26901048
I’ll give you one rubic for it

[Anonymous No.26913506]

>>26912625
I cant afford a computer I lost everything on Duel Masters

[Anonymous No.26913727]

I also heard Hidden Fates might be good?

[Anonymous No.26914032]

Does /biz/ like my Umbreon?

I also have a dutch first edition Blastoise base set.

[Anonymous No.26914212]

>>26914032
foreign language cards are for losers America and Japan are the only countries that are considered domestic soil around here.

[Anonymous No.26914452]

>>26914212
I found a bunch of Korean Yugioh cards at Value Village

[Anonymous No.26914780]

>blastoise is 2ft tall
What kind of crack where they smoking?

[Anonymous No.26914951]

>>26914212
shit still worth around $1k at least - opened it as a kid and kept it in good condition

[Anonymous No.26915226]

>>26914780
I just realized that's a prototype card they used in internal presentations during development, everything about it is fucked if you look closely

[Anonymous No.26915611]

>>26914452
Unless you're living in the 30s, Korea isn't Japanese.

[Anonymous No.26915619]

>>26900433
I think the card market is pretty overvalued rn. Probably some value on rookie cards of all-timers though - Tom Brady, MJ, Tiger, LeBron

[Anonymous No.26915680]

Feels good man

[Anonymous No.26915796]

>>26915680
Ah ye, that's the stuff anon.

[Anonymous No.26915869]

>>26915680
Is that white at the top edge damage?

[Anonymous No.26915968]

>>26915680
great condition, nice anon

[Anonymous No.26915985]

>>26900433
wtf I legit might have that card. Pretty sure my collection still exists in my parents attic. Will check this weekend.

[Anonymous No.26916004]

>>26915869
>Is that white at the top edge damage?
Yes. It's back has a noticeable crease as well. It would only be a 4 or so if I graded it. I just got it in that condition back in the day

[Anonymous No.26916384]

>>26900433
If you didnt have that rare shit from when you were a child, dont bother.

[Anonymous No.26916519]

>>26916004
Still pretty sick for something just to have
I have a Shininy Mewtwo from Neo Destiny from when I was a kid thats in horrific condition

[Anonymous No.26916976]

I get a laugh when I think of all the Charizard and shit people are trying to sell on ebay for extortionate prices. They think they're in a sellers market with plenty of people will pay over 100k waiting around.

If you want to make money on collectables then horde classic car parts like a normal person.

[Anonymous No.26917042]

>>26915680
PSA shit
Get out of here

[Anonymous No.26917556]

I got some decent ones but it feels like local retards don’t know the value of cards and act shocked when I mention my prices.

[Anonymous No.26917999]

>>26917556
>that pidgeot
I have a ton or cards from that set

[Anonymous No.26918173]

>>26900433
Illiquid

[Anonymous No.26918545]

>>26900433
Do it if you like the cards and buy boosters instead

[Anonymous No.26918785]

just an aside

kraken website is having trouble loading.

[Anonymous No.26918866]

Selling niche stuff is comfy af, I've been paying the bills for over a year just flipping stuff within my extremely autistic niche hobby. It ends up being maybe $2-3k/mo in profits after tax, but I love it and would never go back to wagekekking

[Anonymous No.26920393]

>>26917999
legendary collection reverse holos are beautiful

[Anonymous No.26920410]

>>26900433
I've been playing the game for 5 years and also had a collection of some sort back in 1999-2001 that my mom sold and now I'm getting a revenge and buying cards from mothers and fathers who are selling their kids cards. And so I started collecting cards as a hobby but also as an investment, thinking of getting a nice collection and then maybe selling it in 10-20 years depending if I need money then.

[Anonymous No.26920598]

>>26900433
I'm still hodling my entire collection from the mid 90's. Just realized a few days ago it's worth several thousands of dollars. I really want to get in on the BTC train before it leaves, do you think I should sell anons?

[Anonymous No.26920805]

>>26920598
Fuck no. MTG is king.

[Anonymous No.26921093]

>>26920805
So do you think in 10 years I will multiply my money better by just holding the cards than if I sell and buy BTC now for a comfy 250x?

[Anonymous No.26921520]

i kinda get magic, you have lots of card with really different effects that can somehow be combined and if you know the cards you can make a cool combo deck
but pokemoncards are just a childrens game, super simple stuff

[Anonymous No.26922084]

>>26921093
BTC is slowing down. Even if we're not through this bull run, its clearly not delivering as many Xs as the last ones. Pokemon and MTG are however seeing growth that's a bit crazy and far more secure. Remember, pokemon was something that kids played 20-25 years ago, its rich 30-40 year olds buying right now. At some point, you're gonna be dealing with retired millionaires buying these things. People who made their fortunes in stocks, business, crypto, metals, entertainment, etc.

[Anonymous No.26922191]

>>26908696
wow, amazing that someone so retarded could also be so rich.

[Anonymous No.26922418]

>>26922084
Although I disagree about where BTC is going, I think you're right about the cards also. I stopped playing Pokemon after I beat Gold/Silver a week before they came out, and I never sold these cards because it has always seemed like they weren't going for a lot up until now. Thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.26922473]

pokemon cards was just the latest iteration of opening csgo cases for content

the only value is cashing in any rare cards you had as a kid if you kept them in good condition

[Anonymous No.26924005]

>>26922418
Either way, next halving pump for BTC isn't due for another 4 year. So..yeah.

Selling now and getting into BTC is stupid but there's nothing wrong with selling some just to diversify but maybe look into that a year from now.

[Anonymous No.26924351]

>>26924005
I'm actually 100% sure you're wrong about how this will play out, but thanks I will hold my pokemon cards

[Anonymous No.26925829]

>>26900433
buying and selling lego sets is a safer long-term alternative. virtually all factory-sealed lego sets go up in value after they end production

[Anonymous No.26926383]

>>26925829
I'm not that clued into lego finace, but i've always felt that the real gold is the unique pieces in sets rather than the sets themselves. Buy yeah, lego is a legit quality product and will probably hold past MTG.

[Anonymous No.26928042]

>>26925829
I have some big Lego Star Wars sets and because of my slight autism kept the boxes.
Some of those go for 1500$+ unopened but even my slightly used ones currently go for 250-400$ on ebay.