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What stops Reddit from targeting hedge fund shorts like this.. literally all the time from now on?

>> No.26743075

>>26743001
Wallstreet isn't going to let this happen again. There will be rule changes, regulations, and they'll stop being so goddamn bold.

>> No.26743181

>>26743001
Well, let's see how this plays out. Might not end well for the redditors.

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26743287

>>26743075
Seriously! Someone has to stop these kids!

>> No.26743336

This unironically kills the stock market and crypto will be the game for the next few years at the least.

>> No.26743360
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>>26743001
Sell now while you can.

I cant tell you who I am, but my brother is a janitor who works at one of the offices who provided financial assistance to one of the funds who helped bail out Melvin and co.

He overheard the higherups talking about some of these reddit users actually being suspected corporate entities who are trying to arrange a takeover by pushing them into bankruptcy.

He said that they said these guys actions lined up with previous failed negotiation attempts and it's like they had deep insider info on the inner workings of these hedges, likely former employees.

He said not only did some of these reddit guys make almost prophetic moves in the market at critical times, they also divulged information on future moves that were still internal at the time.

He said that they are only in this to bankrupt some rival agencies and that at the right time they are going to sell and leave everyone else holding the bags.

You guys need to sell NOW, don't be the sucker that these incognito reddit fat cats want you to be.

This shit goes deep, way deep, we are swimming with the sharks and we dont know it. We are playing games within games, moving pieces that don't belong to us.

Be careful, be safe. Sell.

>> No.26743407

>>26743075
>There will be rule changes, regulations
How are they going to regulate actions that are perfectly legal and barebones at the micro level and only seem "harmful" at the macro level?

>> No.26743446

>>26743360
kys

>> No.26743451

>>26743001
literally just had open fraud to overturn us presidential election. zero shits given about optics or law. what makes you think the stock won't be
seized with the message of 'fuck off or be prosecuted'? prepare for the rektening

>> No.26743472

>>26743360
just bought 50 shares ty

>> No.26743541

>>26743360
dad?
wen da fuk di joo strt poastin hear

>> No.26743564
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>>26743001
Reddit retards dont have nearly enough numbers to move stocks, people seem to forget that other big boys like blackrock are in on this too vs the shorts. This isnt little guy vs big hedgefunds, this is hedgefund vs hedgefund with all the retail investors along for the ride.

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26743584

>>26743360

>> No.26743607

I imagine they'll probably stop doing shorts permanently now that the little guy can get in on the action

>> No.26743617

>>26743360
>>>/x/

>> No.26743618

>>26743001
because GME was shorted at 140% which won't happen again. This wasn't designed by reddit, it was opportunistic and wall street will never give us that opportunity again

>> No.26743622

>>26743001
they will just make it a law or an exception that they will not disclose shorts or there is a grace period before they disclose to the public.

these fuckers are out for blood apparently.

>> No.26743673

there will be legislation changes, and no hedge fund will ever make such a retardedly large naked short ever again

>> No.26743708

>>26743001
no other stock has a backstop of more shares shorted than exist. And no other stock will after this week. This is why AMC and NOK will tank hard this and next week.

You've been warned

>> No.26743739

>>26743075
How do you want to relgulate this?
>No Stocks that are getting shorted cant rise anymore
or
>nu-uh talking about stocks online is illegal now
or ban everyone under a million from trading stocks?

>> No.26743784

>>26743451
>same thing
sacrificing it all for a businessman larping as politician
vs
sacrificing it all because the gubba straight up stole all of your profits.

>> No.26743829

>>26743407
by changing the laws so they are no longer legal

>> No.26743837

>>26743075
There probably won't be any rule changes from this, but hopefully they'll see this as a warning to not be so retarded and overshort

>> No.26743843

>>26743001
The bankster puppets in Congress and at the SEC are going to ban short position disclosure.

>> No.26743886

>>26743001
Biden administration
Societal transformation incoming
Screen cap this
Social Credit score by 2022

/thread

>> No.26743944

>>26743001
They won't because this whole shitshow will end horribly for the thousands of average joes that will end up holding this worthless bag.
WSB will become synonymous with scammers, pump and dump fraudsters.
Wall St. will come on top of this, no doubt.

>> No.26744007

>>26743360
>1 post by this ID

>> No.26744018

>>26743001
Nothing. As a matter of fact It's spreading to kikebook and twatter if this continues to gain traction it will lead to a social media shutdown in no time.

>> No.26744071

>>26743336
this
we can only hope

>> No.26744297

>>26743001
There won't be the opportunity, they won't have gotten a stimulus check, so and and so forth.

>> No.26744752

>>26743360
I vouch for him, My dad works for Reggie at Gamestop and he said the same.

>> No.26744754

>>26743618
>because GME was shorted at 140% which won't happen again.
could you explain this like im retarded?
is GME just an extremely specific scenario and not true for all shorting hedge funds or..?

>> No.26744811

>>26743360
A bucket and a mop just flew over my house.

>> No.26744961

>>26743618
>this wasnt designed by reddit
no shit anon, it's plain as day that this was designed by big money. They saw and opportunity, exploited it, and then spread it to social media to redirect the blame of fucking the market.
a lot of people will benefit, so that's good, but it comes at a costs, and it's rather pretentious to act as if reddit or /biz/ made this a reality. There is too much money pumped into this stock for it to be a working class pump.

This is a direct attack of hedge funds, on hedge funds. To think otherwise is naive. The reason there's no risk right now is because there simply isn't enough working class money involved for the hedge funds to justify dumping when the potential money to be gained is off the charts. The only thing that could possibly save the shorts is if the other hedge funds sandbag their gains and bail them out by selling and tanking the stock.

>> No.26745008

>>26743001
>What stops Reddit from targeting hedge fund shorts like this.. literally all the time from now on?
the reddit admins

>> No.26745192

>>26743360
>He said not only did some of these reddit guys make almost prophetic moves in the market at critical times

the calls are public, they just checked to most shorted stocks and found a hedge fund with its pants down

>> No.26745334

>>26744754
>is GME just an extremely specific scenario
Yes.

>> No.26745417

>>26743360
jesus, is the Q bullshit spilling over to biz now

>> No.26745469

>>26743001
they got banned, that's what

>> No.26745604

>>26743001
Wsb got 404d. They’re coming here en masse tomorrow. /biz/ is the Captain now. NOK is tomorrow’s short squeeze play. Buy at market open. Friday will be different

>> No.26746242

>>26743001
>1. calls get more expensive over time (the healthier option)
or
>2. people start dumping and we enter overbought firesale mode (whats actually going to happen)

>> No.26746878

>>26745334
thats why every shill on biz right now is distraction

>> No.26748232

>>26743075
The scorpion will always sting the frog.

>> No.26748669

>>26744754
Hedge funders made a bet that GME would crash (that bet was a "short call"). When it starts rising above what they bet it would be they have to cover their asses by buying back the stocks that they put up for the bet, but since so many shares were bet there simply are not enough left to cover their positions.

That means SOMEONE will be left holding the collective bag, because every time a short caller buys back shares it raises the price even higher, and at the end of the day the only shares left for purchase to cover those short calls will be from retail investors, and so retail has a lot of power in this specific scenario to set the price as long as they all hold

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26748816

Did you hear about BAEX(#baex) defi binary platform? A lot of people try to bring referrals there, and I checked this option. 80% of commissions and 4% of the tokens bought by your referrals, that can be good for passive income.

There are a lot of stocks, indices, crypto, and fiat options, and I want to trade Amazon and Disney shares, as I see, they are rising, so it will be easy to get money with them

>> No.26748864

>>26744961
obviously not no shit if OP is asking why reddit cant just engineer another one of these

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>>26743001
Oy Vey, what an antisemite post, we better shutdown robinhood
>Want to open an account in Robin Hood?
>Oy vey, prove you earned 6 gorrillion shekels in the last month
>Already have an account?
>Due to our new policies we now require proof that you are jewish with a letter of your local rabbi

>> No.26749227

>>26745604
Fuck off jew. Buy more GME and hold what you have. Don't listen to this shill.

>> No.26749449

>>26743001
Hedge funds being a little less retarded with their shorts will stop leddit from targeting them.

>> No.26749488

>>26743360
Fuck off FUD LARPer

>> No.26749561
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26749561

>>26743407
Its not like they rule over Americans

>> No.26749651

>>26743360
AND WHAT ABOUT 150% NAKED SHORTING, HUH?
JUST GONNA LET THAT SLIDE?

>> No.26750208

I had a shit ton of amc stock that I bought at 2 dollars a share and I made a lotta money from what these dumb redditors did lool.

>> No.26750847

>>26743001
Despite what people might think, most hedge fund managers actually know what they are doing and aren't shorting a stock over 100%, especially not over such a long time when the public can just literally look up what's going on. GME is the worst example of Wallstreet greediness going overboard since VW.

>> No.26751186

>>26743360
friday.

nigger.

>> No.26751518

>>26743001
main reason this shit is possible is because kikes shorted so much they owe more GME shares than are in existance.
>greed killed the kike

>> No.26751990

>>26748669
>as long as they all hold
Except that's not going to happen.

>> No.26752375

>>26743360
Fuck, a janitor said all that?

>> No.26753840

>>26743075
you underestimate their chutzpah

>> No.26754073
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26754073

>>26743360
REDDIT SPACING

were having a reddit moment over her

>> No.26754078

>>26743075
Cope

>> No.26754246

>>26743001
Law

>> No.26754296

When about 80% of redditors lose their money in two days.

>> No.26754340
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26754340

>>26743360
>works at one of the offices
>everyone is doing Home Office now
I get it, there's no difference for you neets because you've never been employed to begin with

>> No.26754443

>>26743075
Shorting should be fucking illegal.
You are basically scamming idiots.

>> No.26754517

we still going strong /r/thestonkening/

>> No.26754599
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26754599

>>26743360
delicious tears, thank you

>> No.26754697

>>26743001
Nothing. Hedge funds are ultimately fucked. And they know this. They are probably working on some kind of scheme right now to keep shit on the DL to keep fucking over normies.

>> No.26754773

>>26743075
brainlet take

>> No.26755456

>>26743360
jesus how many puts did you buy? just go kill yourself

>> No.26755717
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26755717

Strong AH beats by FB and AAPL should settle the markets tomorrow. Morgan Stanley on CNBC just said they continue to favor value plays in materials and financials, as the re-opening trade still works.

The long thesis is still in tact on $CLF. Report from yesterday that Blackrock has increased position in $CLF to 15%, and is now holding 20,000 call options

Very bullish for $CLF... solid buy.. Q4 earnings beat around the corner while Steel is over $1000 per ton

>> No.26755868

>>26743739
All of the above.

>> No.26755873

>>26743360
ugh
reddit posting
you need to go back

>> No.26755944

>>26743001
You are thinking small. We could be doing that with actual comodities.

>> No.26756070

>>26743001
regulations against anyone not investing over $100,000 at a time.

>> No.26756345

>>26743360
Good point i put another 500 on it

>> No.26756883

>>26743607
The little guy can't get in on the action. What the little guy can do however is communicate and pump stocks to fuck with shorting kikes; little guy still has to cash out at some point though and gamestop does not have a bright future in the retail business.

>> No.26756953

New battle toads coming out soon. Buy buy buy

>> No.26757137

>>26750847
This. The thing that will stop redditors doing it again is simply visibility. The only managed it this time because it was obvious and they were all watching GME prior to it.

>> No.26757247

>>26748669
When are the shorts due? When is the time to sell?

>> No.26757270

>>26743075
>kvetching intensifies

>> No.26757275

Because most hedge funds aren't retarded to short this much. Fucking hell do even understand what is going on OP?

>> No.26757605

>>26751990
Says who? Maybe you're used to /biz/ shittery where pajeets shill shitcoins and everyone has paper hands, but in wsb people actually take bets and post actual money. The guy who made 20 fucking million yesterday is still holding today, and at 40 million.
There is absolutely no reason to leave until the squeeze hits.

>> No.26757901

>>26743360
Can confirm. My dad works at Nintendo, and he overheard the janitor talking to his janitor's union rep that works at a hedge fund. He was so shook up that he could barely finish his avocado toast.

>> No.26757976
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26757976

>>26757247
Melvin's 40% shorts are due on Friday and they start from a 60$ price point.
There are also more recent shorts, but they already start high.

>> No.26758306

>>26743001the U.S will be china 2.0 in like 5 months.

>> No.26758510

>>26757976
wait, so they sold at 60, expecting to cover at what, $30? and they're going to cover at $400? LMFAO

>> No.26758653

>>26743001
Yeah, they already made it illegal to nudie shortie for hedgies... In 2008 lol

>> No.26759026

>>26743564
If it was expected that common players would completely fuck the people shorting why did they do it?

>> No.26759495

>>26754340
love her but why is she still childless? she's like 37 now and no kids, so if she ever had a kid, it might be autistic. sad

>> No.26759611

>>26754340
top kek

>> No.26759903

Normally nobody knows who and how much a stock is shorted by. It was Melvin not properly covering their tracks. There are probably more 140% float shorts out there we just don't know. It took serious autism for DSV and the other fags to dig up Melvins retardedly overleveraged, limitless position.

>> No.26759942
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26759942

>>26758510
That's right!
They got a 2.7 B$ bailout and blew it on doubling down on shorts at 60$.
They probably sold their positions but the new owner still has to cover on Friday!

>> No.26760054

>>26743001
Nothing until new legislation is enacted or until Wall Street stops making shitty and illegal deals

>> No.26760092

not allowing stupidly high short to stock ratios. Well see if wallstreet can handle not being greedy pricks and will actually do the sensible solution

>> No.26760121

>>26743075
And yet they will. Whatever loophole or lack of safeguard there is, it'll always be exploited by people who don't have to fear being hanged for their trespasses. We should at least strive to be like Iceland where they actually arrest bankers, and go further to convict Wallstreet traders too. Hang the fuckers.

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26760179

Not that guy but

Sell now while you can.

I cant tell you who I am, but my brother is a janitor who works at one of their home offices who provided financial assistance to one of the funds who helped bail out Melvin and co.

He overheard the higherups talking over Zoom about some of these reddit users actually being suspected corporate entities who are trying to arrange a takeover by pushing them into bankruptcy.

He said that they said these guys actions lined up with previous failed negotiation attempts and it's like they had deep insider info on the inner workings of these hedges, likely former employees.

He said not only did some of these reddit guys make almost prophetic moves in the market at critical times, they also divulged information on future moves that were still internal at the time.

He said that they are only in this to bankrupt some rival agencies and that at the right time they are going to sell and leave everyone else holding the bags.

You guys need to sell NOW, don't be the sucker that these incognito reddit fat cats want you to be.

This shit goes deep, way deep, we are swimming with the sharks and we dont know it. We are playing games within games, moving pieces that don't belong to us.

Be careful, be safe. Sell.

>> No.26760362

>>26760179
Sure

>> No.26760452

>>26743001
Cause it’s a racist hate-crime.

>> No.26760550

>>26743001

men in matching costumes with guns

>> No.26760593

>>26743336
No this brings trading to the normie masses and we continue to see all time highs this year with a wave of new money.

>> No.26760658

>>26743739
Easy. No more options for retails.

>> No.26760838

>>26743360
150 bucks is nothing to me.

>> No.26760900
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26760900

>>26743075
Fuck that

>> No.26760960

hedgies will probably be more careful with the shorts from now on

>> No.26760962

>>26743360
Hey feds.

>> No.26761035

>>26756883
Little guy needs to pick an undervalued winner instead of trying to make a quick buck. Gamestop is trash and someone has to be the bag holder at the end of day.
Imagine a million little guys pumping up a legit company. We could all live happily ever after.

>> No.26761073

>>26743001
>What stops Reddit from targeting hedge fund shorts like this.. literally all the time from now on?
They are going to stop doing it so much. You have to remember, 130% was shorted. 130%.

>> No.26761091

>>26761035
UAVS

>> No.26761184

>>26760900
CNBS's justification is
>b-but retail can't make up their own minds
>y-you're Pide Piper!!
Like fuck off, adults can make up their own minds with their own cash.
These market channels / segments basically tell Retail what to buy/sell every single fucking day every single fucking hour, yet they're not accused of misleading anyone who loses big. Cunts.

>> No.26761192

>>26761035
>Imagine a million little guys pumping up a legit company. We could all live happily ever after.
This is what happened with $TSLA. Hedges tried to fuck with TESLA and the little guy noticed.

>> No.26761196

>>26743407
By changing the laws so that they can do whatever they want.

>> No.26761200

Nothing really. It’s like the stupid antz movie. Alone we are powerless. Together. We can fuck shit up.

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>>26760658
This wasn't options, just simple stocks. What's more likely is forbidding 140% retarded shorts.

Also, don't think that there are no bankers on the pumping side... They smell the money!

>> No.26761366

>>26744754
>is GME just an extremely specific scenario
it was a particularly easy target. but i believe in the future (now we're only focusing on GME) if the meme magic persists then other stocks could be pumped to at least some extent to bust the balls of shorters like what's being done in tesla.

>> No.26761384

>>26743001
SEC

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26761431

>>26748669
Thank you. Most informative post today.

>> No.26761456

>>26761091
OSTK

>>26761192
I don't know I think Tesla obscenely overvalued. Little guys are just buying into the Elon cult.

>> No.26761462

>>26743001
>predating predators
if they're overexposed like this, why not

>> No.26761509

>>26743001
Absolutely nothing. But it should be built into their risk models now. This is bullish AF for stocks since there will be less short pressure.

>> No.26761532

>>26743829
>>26749561
>>26761196
He is asking about what kind of change, cringe superfluous brainassese

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26761603

>>26743075
>they'll stop being so goddamn bold

>> No.26761627

>>26743001
Hedge funds just don't hold massive shorts

>> No.26761664

>>26743001
Don’t over leverage and remember shorts are potentially infinite losses.
Like they teach the goyim first day in business.

>> No.26761721

>>26743001
Oh you mean what hedge funds do all the fucking time?

>> No.26761731

>>26743618
only useful comment here.

>> No.26761764

>>26743001
KIKERY WILL STOP IT

>> No.26761797

>>26743407
>perfectly legal
Umm. Anon, by changing the law to make it illegal? Just a guess.

>> No.26761863

>>26757605
The problem is, /wsb doesn't own all of the shares.
Their diamond hands won't really matter if the other people (who own the majority of the stock) begin selling. The price will then start to fall, putting much more pressure on the remaining hands.
How much of their gains do you see the average normie in /wsb (or here) allowing to evaporate before they say fuck it and get out?

>> No.26761884

>>26743564
I wonder if it's like hedge fund A takes a 0.5x loss so hedge fund B can make 2x gains. Next time B takes 0.5x loss and A gets 2x gains... all the gains being absorbed from retail of course

>> No.26761886

>>26761091
Thank, made money off this and sold my bag before 1.50.
It capped over two, but I halted.

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26761964

>>26743001
Fuck politicians and "taxing the rich"
Who the fuck do you think puts them in position

WE need to start taxing the rich
Fuck hedgies, clean them out
Lets start building our own culture without these neuromancer Schwab losers

>> No.26762049

>>26757605
Says basic human psychology.

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26762134

>>26761964
So based.
I see you're a man of culture.

>> No.26762290

>>26744961
I will explain.
They naked short all the time.
But this time.
Some hedigies took their eyes off the screen and when Melvin was found to be top of the huge profit coming in, he got jealous. Or may be he accused Melvin of not alerting. It's like your classmate didn't tell you about obvious questions coming in exams.
Now that guy(Steve Cohen may be), wants to take revenge. This is Jew 101. Human 201. This is very simple explanation of whole thing.
What is interesting is, how the SEC are going to intervene now their crony tactics have become common knowledge.
Media will be called to do the subversion, diversion and what not. Focus would be shifted from "Look for Hedgies shorting the dying company" to "White supremacy", "Racism", "Social Media hackers" or whatever it takes. Journalist are pure garbage.