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Stocks

>> No.267128

>>267127
IPOs are a bad idea. Always.

>> No.267135

You could just send someone it would probably be easier that way.

>> No.267142

>>267128

They're great if you have shares of a private company that's gotten huge and need an exit strategy.

>> No.267292

>>267142
I think what he means is "buying into a company at, or after the IPO, is always a bad idea. Unless you're the underwriter."

>> No.267319

>>267127
tesla, any1?

>> No.267359

>>267292
Everything has risk

>> No.267375

>>267128
I was gonna buy at the Royal Mail IPO but didn't bother, tfw...

>> No.267377

>>267128
Not really.

>> No.267717

I'm thinking about buying $5k of PCYC and $500 of a pennystock (ACTC).

Any opinions?

>> No.267759

TSLA is dead, tech stocks are dead

im just sitting around looking for market risks, researching the odd company and waiting to buy the tech dip, it might be rebounding right now actually but I'll stick to my plan of waiting for the market to act as I predict before buying in

>> No.267765

>>267717
>penny stock

Might as well go play roulette.

>> No.267760

>>267717
Why throw your money away in a penny stock? Can you afford to basically gamble your money?

>> No.267782

FNMA

>> No.267786

>>267782

Good call

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267800

I'm looking at YY, and it seems to be approaching a good buying point. However it must certainty prove itself to be in an uptrend before action can be taken.

>> No.267898

keep shorting WWE

>> No.267940

>>267128
Why? Can somebody please explain?

>> No.267961

You are an idiot if you are thinking about buying individual stocks, especially in IPOs and turn to 4chan for advice. I would recommend going to the casino instead. First and last time I visit this board.

>> No.267964

>>267961
See you tomorrow!

>> No.267982

>>267940
they usually go down, wait and monitor the stock then buy the dip

>> No.267989

>>267128
Yup, always. GOOG was horrible Who would want to get that for 75$

>> No.268126

>>267760
Yes. Just for fun.

>> No.268732

What about those Chinese stocks

>> No.268969

>>267359
Buying overpriced stocks isn't risky, it's stupid.

>> No.268972

>>268969
What if it isn't overpriced

>> No.269001

>>268972
It's just mostly money losing investment, of course buying underpriced stock is good, at least in the long term.

>> No.269239

>>267717
Anyone else? Come on /biz/

>> No.269250

>>267989
For every GOOG there are a hundred failed IPOs. Statistically speaking you're playing the lottery. Not only that, but in most IPOs the majority of the gains go to big institutional investors, not individuals.

>> No.269271

I'm actually considering the Ikang stock. Large healthcare provider, profitable. I think it has potential but I need to do more research into healthcare in China.

>> No.269291

>>267127
IPO are bad when they sell wide. Remember Facebook IPO? They failed to meet expectations. The media like WSJ and WP hyped it especially saying that they would gain a lot and it would just go high up. It didn't and they put it in a bad light because of that. But in the end it was successful. It stayed afloat. When an IPO sells low, they can control it and steer it with their profits. If you sell it all in one short burst, The prices can plummet easily rather than become stable. WP predicted a huge pricetag can said it failed when the pricetag was actually lower. That is true, but it was more stable than had it just sold high.
That doesn't IPO don't make money when they fail. They do, just not for everyone.

>> No.269294

>>269250
that's why you buy the dip, let the market do the work for you

>> No.269333

>>267961
You won't be missed.

>> No.269336

>>269250
That sounds familiar, it was the same argument when I bought the minimum quantity of TSLA stock. Great argument good sir, you sure showed me with those hot opinions of yours.

>> No.269339

>>267128
>>269291
Picking any single IPO is certainly a gamble, but as a whole, IPO's tend to outperform the overall market, with less volatility

IPO's are intentionally underpriced to reward prime brokerage customers and incentivize them to get the deal done. Price too many IPO's like KING, and pretty soon, you won't be doing any more deals.

>> No.269351

>>269336
I know right. Pessimism can be as bad as optimism.

Feb 2013, people are pre-ordering Model Ses, it is a bull market, Tesla's quarterly is about to be received, a perfect opportunity for one slot of a well researched diversified portfolio.

>> No.270646

ALIBABA

>> No.270801
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270801

Any thoughts on Greece?

I'm up 46% on Alpha Bank (ALBKY) and about 6.5% on National Bank of Greece (NBG)

Pretty determined to hold long but curious if anyone else has gotten in on the Greek recovery here.

>> No.270804

>>270801
I've got NBG although not much. Poorfag. I buy back into it whenever I can.

>> No.270818

>>270804

Definitely look into Alpha and what David Einhorn has been up to.

>> No.271180

Would it be worth jumping into an inverse S&P 500 ETF now or later once it actually crashes?
When does /biz/ think it will crash?

>> No.271181

>>271180
>When does /biz/ think it will crash?
When people stop expecting it to crash. Which means probably no time soon.

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271248

buy gold miners you nerds

>> No.271291

I always hear my little ponies are a nightmare tax wise but what is expected of a foreign investor in them? Do you just pay a bit more tax and that's that? Dat 10% yield is nice even at 7%

>> No.271548

Thank god that damn mexican isn't on this board anymore

>> No.271557

>>271248
>buy gold miners
>miners

You can still have slaves?

>> No.271744

>>271557

>PHOT suspended from trading

How else is a bag holder here?

>> No.271806

>>271548
????

>> No.271859

>>271806
He's talking about me.

>> No.271932

Biotech getting blown the fuck out.

>> No.271959

>>271859
Wipe making another trading /biz/ game thread we should have one at least once a week.

>> No.271964

Soooo more downward movement, or have we put in the bottom today?

>> No.271970

lost so much money today.

>> No.271980

I've been buying stocks through my work's (Walmart) program, since they match 15%. I'm just finishing up school and have a bit of money I want to try to invest. Are stocks a good option? Whats the best way to get into stocks or any other investments for a beginner.

>> No.271984

>>271980
does this mean i can get a job at walmart and theyll match my 100k?

buy all CHD and kick your feet up.

>> No.271988

>>271980
>15% matching
Oh hell yeah, stack that up. That said some better companies will 1:1 you.

There are lots of short term plays if you're going to swing trade but for the longer term look into e-cigs.

Did you notice how about half the people that used to smoke now have e-cigs? Seriously guy, money to be made there.

>> No.271992

>>271984
No. It's an option where they take it out of your paycheck. And you need to work there for a year before you get the option.

>> No.271995

>>271988
Until everyone realizes that they cause cancer too and get banned.

>> No.272000

>>271984
Whats a good program/site to use to monitor stocks and make purchases through?

>> No.272009

>>271995
I've seen those posters up in my university already. Making a claim about the stuff they use causes unknown health concerns.
I talked to people who smoke ecigs and they said that they were aware of that stuff for a while, and they stopped using that chemical about 3 years ago. It doesn't seem likely.

>> No.272015

>>272000
i use scottrade but there's lots out there.

>> No.272023

>>272015
>scottrade
I'm seeing they have a $7 fee for trading. Is that a normal cost for these things?

>> No.272030

>>272023
pretty much. every action is 7 bucks. it adds up fast so its really all about buying and sitting on it for a long time unless some weird shit happens and you need to get out.

>> No.272032

>>272023

Give or take. You can find 4.95/ trade brokerages. Probably even better if you look more.

>> No.272038

>>272030
So buying and selling. Alright.
Wasn't planning on day trading. More just a place I can keep money I don't need to spend someplace other than a bank that would generate more return.

>> No.272048

>>272038
Well fuck. It's telling me I have a mortgage in my name. Well I guess I need to figure that out first.

>> No.272051

>>272048
Looks like you may have had your identity stolen?

>> No.272055

>>272051
Probably. Know a good way to check. I'm trying to use My ID Score and it's saying the information I'm entering is wrong when asking about who am I currently living with.
Anyone know how to look up information on who opened the mortgage?

>> No.272129

>>272051
That might be the case..

>> No.272150

>>271959
I don't have the template... I'll see if I can find it.

>> No.272343

>>272150
I was hopeful you died in your conquest to help support Pakistan terrorism. Sorry to see you are still alive.

>> No.272576

I've got $200 to invest, somebody I know recommended I buy GE and sit on it for a while. Is that a good option?

>> No.272613

What do you guys use for discovering and evaluating opportunities within the market?

I mean, strategies like fundamental analysis of SEC fillings and such.

>> No.272620

>>272343
Nah, just vacationing all over the globe. Enjoying the nice life. I'm glad I'm on your mind though :^)

>>272576
>$200 to invest
Put it in a bank account. Wait until you have 1K before you even think about opening up a trading account.

>> No.272622

>>272613
http://www.ask8ball.net

Actually, I use "word on the street". I have a few friends who are hedge fund managers are Wells Fargo and they drop some tips every now and then. Also sites like this and /econ/ are great for sharing ideas

>> No.272628

>>272620
I can move some cash from my bank acct to my trading acct, if I had $1000 would buying GE be a good move?

>> No.272630

>>272622
wells fargo doesn't do prop trading, nor do they employ hedge fund managers

>> No.272631

>>272628
I don't know, haven't been tracking GE at all but I would recommend that you start with around 1K for your first investment. Just to get your feet wet.

>> No.272634

These past few weeks have been raping my portfolio, if I was in it for the short term I would be pissing myself right now. Just gotta buy the dip and keep raking in my dividends I guess.

>> No.272635

>>272630
Maybe he means the bank teller

>> No.272636

>>272628
Why the fuck would you ask wipe for trading advice. You might as well just put your money in a pile, pour some gas on it, and light it on fire.

>> No.272645

>>272628
GE isn't a terrible stock but honestly I believe in the next year or two you could see it trading for nearly half of what it is today. can you stick with GE through that? If you can stand the volatility GE isn't a bad long term stock.

>> No.272667

So with the OpenSSL vulnerability that has come to light, my friend has suggested in investing in IT Security companies and Microsoft, because they don't use OpenSSL at all.

I don't really have a lot to invest, (maybe 1k at he most) so what do you guys think?

>> No.272677

>>272630
You're joking right? All banks have investment teams. It's a quick Google search away

>> No.272682

>>272636
Wipe is an amazing guy wtf are u talking about

>> No.272688

>>272667
stay away from IT security unless its something REALLY legit like RTN or LMT (both of which are going down this year IMO). MSFT is always a good long play though. You won't get rich quick but if you reinvest the dividends and DCA you way in throughout the next decade or so you should be just fine.

>> No.272706

>>272688
Alright, I was hoping to make a short term play off of this, but thanks for the advice. Seems like I'll just save this money then.

>> No.272729

>>272682
2nd. Fuck this h8er

>> No.272767

>>272667
I don't see it changing anything.

People will change their passwords and then life will go on as usual.

>> No.272810

today was horrid

>> No.272912
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Deals for the beginning of next week

>> No.273118

Eh. I hope the market keeps going down for a while. My funds are tied up in a transaction because I am slowly shifting money between brokerages.

So I won't have my investment money until next Weds or so. Until then I hope the market collapses.

>> No.273149

>>272912
What is this and where do I find it? Also is the price the estimated price?

>> No.273163

>>272810
what are you talking about? Today was a great day to short the market and the near future will be a great day to buy the dip.

>> No.273169

>>273163
The thing I'm starting to get scared of is that earnings won't even matter anymore. I'm following a few stocks and when positive news comes out it barely moves, but someone gives their opinion on the stock and it drops like it's hot. Despite record sales I see stocks still being below normal valuation. Hopefully I'm wrong.

>> No.273189

>>273169
Good or bad earnings hasn't mattered in decades. Did it beat earnings estimates or fall short, that is it. Also there is the jew ratings and sector downgrades/upgrades.

The reason you're scared is because IPOs and momentum plays are failing and shit like FB are finally faltering because people are realizing that the 150B market cap is ridiculous.

Don't fucking panic, you're still going to make 10-15% by the end of the year with your index funds.

>> No.273196

>>273189
I'm in gild. They have a solid pipeline and recent sales are through the roof but it's dropping like crazy. Everyone knows revenues are going to be great but it's still dropping fast. This is the type of stuff I'm worried about. They also announced positive results I think either today or yesterday and it dropped.

>> No.273209

>>273196
>Everyone knows revenues are going to be great but it's still dropping fast.
If everyone already knows something, why would you expect it to cause the stock price to go up?

>> No.273304

>>273209
Because it's sales are increasing quickly. Quarterly earnings coming soon will show that.

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AMBA

>> No.273601

It looks like the technical damage was done yesterday. The major indices should go down more from here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fdZWbIsrFk

>> No.273686 [DELETED] 

bump

>> No.273692

>>273304
>Because it's sales are increasing quickly

oh dear

>> No.273694

Will SPCB continue yesterday's momentum or will the market drag it down?

>> No.273697

>>269291
actually the media was pretty well aware of how overpriced FB was

>> No.273698

>>273694

I don't know anything about this company. But it spiked up in the morning and then was flat for the rest of the day. So wouldn't expect it to soar.

>> No.273708

>>273698
Israeli based security tech firm that sells RFID tags for IDs and items. The news was they got a $25mil us goyerment contract.

I sold at the peak yesterday, deciding if I should reenter.

>> No.273766

so buy UVXY today?

>> No.273801
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273801

>TSLA $200.50
jesus christ this thing shit the bed overnight. at least one month away from Q1 reports too.

drop it like it's hot?

>> No.273847

>>273801
you can sell now and buy lower.

Remember that TSLA is a company that will not go bankrupt. They will be around for the next few decades.

>> No.273851

Bought F this morning- got it 15.68

>> No.273855

>>273766
I'm in UVXY at 64.20, target is 70

>> No.273958

>>273855
Why do you think that?

>> No.273983

>>273958
hoping for a repeat of yesterday. Yuromarkets are down and the US usually mirrors them in the afternoon.

>> No.273992

>>273983
Spot metals did jack shit the last string of down days a few months back. Gold did like 2%. It made me sad.

>> No.274119

>>273851
Muh gainz ;_;

>> No.274124

>>273855
UVXY finally climbing. Remember the market never bottoms on a friday, except for that one time.

>> No.274966

>>274119
Gone forever

>> No.274980

>>274124
>>273855
got out at 67.07, 4.5% gain isn't bad for an obvious day trade. Kinda mad I missed the 68.9 peak.

>> No.274993

>Invest in company
>Nothing but good news and breakthroughs
>Stock value keeps going down

Its been going down for 3 months, should I cut my losses?

>> No.274997

>>274993

company name?

>> No.275008

>>274993
Qiagen

>> No.275016

>>275008
Its biotech, biotech is getting hammered as a sector.

But its got a good book value and earnings growth, so I'm probably missing something big.

>> No.276698

>>275016
Oh well

>> No.277410

Nothing interesting this month

>> No.278952
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278952

Anyone follow NQ Mobile? Disappointing ER sent the stock down 20% and Muddy Waters just put out another article today
http://d.muddywatersresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/MW_NQ_04132014.pdf

Also I've been following a little-known pharmaceutical company (like no one trades it, daily volume averages around 1500) trading on the OTCQB right now but recently filed a plan to IPO on NASDAQ. Has anyone ever bought shares in a company like this, pre-IPO?

I watched XXII before its IPO (and subsequent dump) and it skyrocketed between their filing of IPO intentions and the IPO date.

>> No.278954

>>275016

It's a volatile sector because it's risky.

That's what you're missing..

>> No.279085

>>267717
>ACTC

looks like 6 cents is the bottom historically... so you might be able to flip for 30% gains or something.

IDK, seems risky as its not even OTCQB. I don't trust financials of most pink sheet stocks

>> No.279223

Another bloodbath today?

>> No.279230

I trade

DIJ
QQQ
SPY
-
AAPL
FB
FSLR
GME
GOOG
IBM
INTC
MSFT
NFLX
PLUG
SCTY
TSLA
TWTR
YELP
YHOO

>> No.279401

Think yahoo stock will be worth it?

>> No.279403

please NQ please

>> No.279417

>>267127
Buy $RUSS.

Based McCain is really going for gold today.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/14/mccain-agrees-moscow-is-behind-ukraine-unrest-but-wants-tougher-us-response/

>> No.279438

I am currently looking into the LE spin-off. Anyone here have any experience with the store (competitiveness, products, 'hipness')?
Non-US btw

>> No.279443

Hope it keeps low for another 10 days. Only have £500 spare at the minute and that's not worth getting more ftse indices.

>Fucking weddings and wasting my money haha

>> No.279446

>>279443

Attending them, not my own. Just clarifying that.

>> No.279845

It's nearly time to sell AMD but is it worth it now? I was happy at $4 but now it's shat itself. Might just bag hold again...

>> No.279848

What do you all anticipate as far as good stock picks for tomorrow?

>> No.279970

>>279845
Hold until next earnings report, no?

>> No.280274

>>279845
hold until wed then buy again when it dips next week

>> No.280280

>>279970
thats tomorrow? wow dumping a few days before did not work out this time.

>> No.280289

>>279845
AMD dip caught me off guard... haha. Will buy if it dips too low. 2/3 ER's isn't bad.

>> No.280375

Bump

>> No.280402

So Google is going to have good/bad earnings report?

Will it rise right afterwards to be dumped by people who bought it now?

>> No.280422

>>271995
Yeah be cuz it really impacted the legality of regular cigs

>> No.281429

So who's buying $INO today?

>> No.281454

>>272636
Fuck you. Wipe made me a lot of money with some of his tips. That ONVO IPO tip made me a lot of money.
I owe you wipe.

>> No.281879

>>281454
Wipe is the Jim Cramer of /sfig/.

You love him but you love your money enough not to follow, just to listen.

>> No.281891

everything sucks the last couple weeks.

>> No.281897

>>279401
You'd get a better return throwing your money in a pit.

>> No.281917

>>281429
Whats you're reasoning for it?

>> No.281977

>>281454

>implying that stock isn't just a pump and dump

>> No.282023

>>281977
>implying there is anything wrong with a one night stand with stock
I bet you kiss prostitutes too.

>> No.282028

Thinking about buying some Nintendo... God damn dirt cheap right now 13.23$

>> No.282068

>>282028
why? are they coming out with something or have something out currently that is selling like hotcakes?

>> No.282089

>>282068
Not sure when, but sometime soon they will be releasing Super Smash Bros 4, and I'm sure it's going to be thrown into MLG and get pretty big. Then let the hotcake sale begin. ( Game will require a Wii u ) so you'll have to buy the console AND game

>> No.282093

>>282089
There will also be a release for the 3ds too, so those will take a jump in sales too.

>> No.282102

>>282093
Yep. As soon as the release date gets posted the rise will start

>> No.282255

>>282028
>>282089
>>282093
>>282102
Nintendo is dead in the water right now. They have no plans for the future and are floating entirely on 3DS sales, which are crlumbling. Just because a game for their worst performing device after the Virtual Boy is coming out doesn't mean investors are going to buy Nintendo. It needs more than that to bring a battered company back and right now that company doesn't have it.

Don't let your blind fanboyism delude you (I know how much you Nintendrones like to suck Iwata's dick). You have been warned.

>> No.282303

excited for that AMD ER on Thursday. Excited to buy the dip

>> No.282893

>someone on bizgame has 6 mil

What kind of fucking stock did they buy

>> No.282995

>>282303

You sure it will drop again? Can't carry on forever.

Looking at volume there doesn't seem to be the usual 100 million spikes in trading two weeks before qr this time.

I can see earnings being flat and then days later a rush when investors think the trend is broken, a bubble and then the crash.

>> No.283029

Forget stocks, bitcoin is back over $500! Hop on before it goes to the moon!

>> No.283044

>>282893
might have been a bugged stock price

in some other games the top people have billions of dollars

>> No.283049

>>283029
Bitcoin is on its way out. Dogecoin will replace it soon.

>> No.283232

>>283044
I think in other games you can buy options, which makes it really easy to do all or nothing plays and get insane gains.

>> No.283245

>>283044
Google had RLSPY down 99.01% then up 9938.30% after hours, maybe its that one?

If XXII is in the green tomorrow, it's a good buying opportunity. Very cheap, zoomed 26.36% today for no apparent reason. It's the only thing making me some money in my sea of red

>> No.283251

>>283049
lol dogecoin, it has a good community but thats bout it, i confess i did buy doge when i first started but its just not sustainable

>> No.283548

>>282995
We will see. Just buy the dip if it drops. Are you holding IRL?

>> No.283550

>>283548
Call me a moron, then tell me what your strategy is. I don't own much AMD right now, should I buy more or wait?

>> No.283564

just bought a couple hundred shares of FSPM

>> No.283568

>>282303
because amd is a company without a future at the moment. their lunch is still getting eaten by nvidia and intel who both make comparable priced tech, but with half the electrical use

>> No.283571

>>283568
(been trading AMD for almost a year now, kept track of them through all their good deals, and removal of reasearch funding)

>> No.283583

>>283548

I have some IRL yes as I was making money from the trend but the trend doesn't look there any more...

>> No.283594

>>283583
looks like its trading at support right now.

>> No.283601

>>283594

Yeah but normally it's at resistance by QR. I can't see any reason for it to drop further...but fuck this is AMD. They could say they made 200% higher profits and it would still go down.

>> No.283612

>>283601
Right? rofl poor AMD getting #booty rekd at every ER. But this time it's different!

My stop loss is at the 3.50, which isn't far away. Will reinvest profits should we drop.

>> No.283642

>>283251
all this time i thought dogecoin was b8 on here.

why do people bother with this shit? everyone wants to use usd, even people that dont live in america.

>> No.283647

>>283601
Going to be fun considering the report doesn't come out until after hours and trading is closed Friday.

>> No.283651

>>283642
i sure wanna use a fiat currency that's being diluted by central bankers while china is building its gold reserve and most banks are starting to hold more and more renminbi

>> No.283650

We should be doing this with PLUG too

>> No.283665

>>283651
does anyone that buys into dogecoin actually use it IRL? or are you just exchanging usd for speculation?

>> No.283668

>>283665
From what I gather, all the alt-coins are just hoping to be the next "lite coin", or 2nd to bitcoin. All of their valuation is based on bitcoin, which itself is based on the dollar. Rampant speculation of a currency with no tangible assets to back it up.

>> No.283674

>>283668
if these people are not actually using it as currency, that kinda proves that its ridiculous.

say i have 10000 dogecoins, where am i going to use those?

>> No.283677

>>283674
Some online stores actually accept doge.

>> No.283678

>>279230
do you plan on getting in on alibaba IPO?
>>279401
Don't buy Yahoo unless we're talking chocolate milk.

>Not shorting KING
>Not buying during sellout money monday

>> No.283701

>>283677
http://dogebiz.net/#apparel

pretty awful

>> No.284295
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LoL @ all the people who pumped Google stock near the close of the bell betting that Google would beat its earnings estimation.

It failed and now its after trading at -4%. Sucks for people who don't have brokers that do after hours.

Tomorrow, all tech stocks are going to be taking a beating from this news.

Also the live stream of the earnings is all babbling on how they are going to get more advertisers for youtube.

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>>284295
>tfw bought QQQ puts at the close

>> No.284477

>>284295
Now they're up 4%...

I'm excited to see where AMD goes. Always has dramatic ER's. And a good 4 days to sit on whatever news will only make AH more interesting.

>> No.284531

>>284477
>Now they're up 4%...
No, they're not. What type of shit broker are you using?

>> No.284534

>>284531
rofl my fault. Refreshed page and down 3%.

>> No.284553

>>284477

I thought you exited $AMD?

>> No.284694

Monif
mobile payments play with a recent dip

>> No.284847

>>267128

TSLA wasn't..

>> No.285367
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285367

Going to buy my first stocks tommorow.

I have $750 ready to buy shares and I'm fully ready to make the buy at any time now. I've been thinking about sticking to only tech companies because that's what I know, but none of the ones I've been looking at have been exceptionally far down.

I wanted to buy Redhat stock and hope it goes back up to $60 a share.

I'm trying to get the feel down, I've got $25,000 to put into this though.

>> No.285377

If you're not holding GILD right now, you should be.

>> No.285413

>>285367
two good stocks to buy right now are GOOG and Z. Both will increase a lot before the next crash when the NASDAQ hits ~5200. Buy now and hold for a year an 2 months

>> No.285631

> muh weed stocks doomed! Run for the hills
>meanwhile advanced cannabis is already on the way back to pre sec closure days

why is sec halting and short shilling penny stocks even legal?

>> No.285889

>>285377

Anything big set to come out during earnings or is it a sell before earnings stock?

>> No.286074
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286074

>>284553
>>284477
Who here is holding AMD stocks over the earnings report? I still don't know what to do. I think I'm going to sell my 2500 shares before the markets close today.

>> No.286084

>>286074
I'm holding. Bought at 3.32$ so I'm not too worried. I figure if I just hold for a year then I won't have to worry about getting assblasted by taxes again.

Plus I made quite a bit during the last ER so I feel safe knowing I have a few thousand to "lose" if this doesn't go well. Will buy the dip. Wouldn't be surprised if we dropped down though.

>inb4 accusations of manipulation

I think it's just retail investors losing faith while the fanboys jerk off to their bitcoin mining rigs.

>> No.286090

>>286074
Last 3 quarters... 1/21- MET---->down 11.99% 10/17- Beat by 100%---->down 13.69% 7/18- Beat by 25%---->Down 13.15%

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286093

>>285367
I decided to buy IBM stock at 188.87

>>285413
Definitely thinking of buying shares of GOOG.

>> No.286118

>>286090
So, a bad earnings report would be good for us?

>> No.286124
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286124

>buying AMD
>BUYING STAKES IN A TECH COMPANY
>NOT HP OR DELL

>> No.286128

>>286118
Who knows, would be lulzy though. "Down 25%, up 100% in AH". I would love all the butthurt from the individual investors.

Im more excited about tonight because the ER comes in after hours and we won't get another day to trade AMD until Monday. So today might see a kneejerk reaction either way as people position themselves for the 3 day weekend.

Speaking of OPs IPO, why doesn't 4chan have one? Would be funny to see a bunch of anons push stock price to 9001$ a share, for teh lulz

>> No.286126

>>285631
technically it is still a federal crime so they can't let it be too volatile until sometime is done of it. I hope this pressure will cause something in capitol hill.

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286149

anyone else see the cup w/ handle on coffee futures? shit could go nutz monday/tues

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286154

>>286149
I see it... Pic related

>> No.286152

>>285631
man people just get wrecked by these things over and over again. I don't get it.

>> No.286161

>>286124
Dell is private business, they don't have stocks.

Do people here not even actually trade, or even look up stuff before saying stuff like this?

>> No.286162

I traded coffee futures during the lows in january and swing traded 4 contracts. Made 64k .feels good man.

>> No.286167

Holy shit /biz/, have you seen BIOF? How come nobody was pumping this, did it come out of nowhere?

>> No.286168

>>286161
Yes, but I'm fairly certain the gentleman you're referring to is trolling

>>286162
How do you even trade Coffee futures? Where do you get news?

>> No.286169

>>286154
Thank's doge

>> No.286171

>>286169
You're welcome.

Also rofl at AMD's float...

http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3062-nyseshort-highlites.html

>> No.286175

>>279230
>No WDC or STX

Also what's the point of having a tech focused portfolio when you can just buy a tech mutual fund and have people with 10 times more knowledge and experience doing all the work for you

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286178

here's my profit from the coffee futures swing.

>> No.286200

>>286171

I hoping some cunts lose a lot of money. Can't see it going down if improved predictions (0.1c eps) are correct after already getting shat on.

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286203

Where's the anon that recommended NEWL a few weeks ago? Fucking scam

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>>286154
wow

>> No.286208

>>286200
I don't hope anyone loses money but it's silly to play AMD ER's. But those shorts are just going with history. Here's to hoping there's some sort of short squeeze and we get a TSLA 2.0

>>286205
Such money
Many swami

>> No.286210

>>286208
>I don't hope anyone loses money

This game is zero sum. Some cunt needs to lose to make someone else rich.

>> No.286213

>>286210
Obviously someone is losing their shirt. Just hope it's not you or I.

>> No.286215
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286215

Also OC from /econ/ for AMD ER's

>> No.286219

>>286215

Thats me after buying PHOT 3 days before the SEC suspended it. Still fortunate it was only a 500.

>> No.286223

>>286219
Yeah, the template is unfortunately applicable to the stockmarket.

They suspended it indefinitely? I don't follow marijuana stocks.

>> No.286261

>>286223

Till the 24th

>> No.286259

Sold all my stocks on the biz game and shorted AMD for some lulz

>> No.286326

really boring day today. I'm going to go masturbate and get some fast food (rallys)

>> No.286339

>>286326
You're in Cali?

>>286261
Why did they shut it down? Also 1 hour until ER

>> No.286340

>>285413
wat

>> No.286343

>>283647
>and trading is closed Friday.
gay.

>> No.286351

>>286343
>tfw cant relax on vacation this weekend because I would rather be working on a project...

>tfw after being introduced to the stock market, weekends suck

>> No.286362

>>286351
>>tfw cant relax on vacation this weekend
wish i had that problem.

but yeah i hear you on the weekends thing. why good friday? is the exchange market ran by christfags?

>> No.286366

>>286362
>is the exchange market ran by Christfags

I think it's because Easter is a national holiday. Worked out great for me since I'm going to the Cherry Blossom festival in San Fran.

But I know that all of tomorrow will be spend looking at the market and sighing.

>> No.286378

>>286074
I can't hold it anymore. Just sold my AMD shares.

>> No.286394

>>286084
wow look the faggot shill piece of shit is still pumping amd with his fake always good never worried buy in price!

>> No.286448

>>286378
AMD beats by 0.02$ inb4 massive selloff after fake gain

>> No.286449
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286449

>>286378
Oh fuck what's going on?

>> No.286473 [DELETED] 

>AMD After hours
>+0.14 (3.79%)

Fucking called it.

>> No.286475

>>286473

>4.34%

TOO THE MOON BABY, short shits getting BTFO

Inb4 massive crash

>> No.286479

>>286475

>+6%

At this rate it will be higher than bitcoin by monday.

>> No.286490

>>286479
Glad I held. Eh hopefully these gains continue for an entire year.

>> No.286583

>>286490

Feel sorry for >>286378

>> No.286600

>>286490
What happened to /idtg/? I don't see them anymore.

>> No.286638

>>286600
Wipes wife told him to stop making them.

>> No.286696

>>286600
No time for it

>>286583
Can't really blame him for selling.

>> No.286701

>>286696
Where did you learn to trade?

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286732

what do you guys think about walgreens, do you think they'll move to europe for those extra 75 cents?

>> No.286789

>>286701
lol

>> No.286825

I have a $10 fee on every trade with Ameritrade, meaning I have to make more than $10 per trade.

This shit makes it completely pointless unless you're putting down thousands of dollars on every single trade. What I want to do is trade all day long and trade when it's $1 up or even half a dollar up, but you would have to be putting down immense amounts of money for the big stocks that are that liquid, $1000s, to make up for the $10 fee and then for profit itself.

How do you guys trade?

>> No.286976

>>286825
bump

>> No.286987

I don't day trade, but if I were I would like to trade on 1% bumps in the market. So given that I would need at least $10,000 to earn $100 for 1% increase in a stock. Preferably I would use $30,000 and do three trades at a time so hopefully I would earn more money that way.

Yeah, I have that much money to do it, but I haven't gotten the nerve to sell all my longs that are supposed to be LONG investments. I'm too busy during the day to watch them though.

But yeah you need at least $10,000 to day trade with and even then you putting most of that on the line.

>> No.287003

>>286825
You can't trade without money. Unfortunately. Try Penny Stocks but I wouldn't reccommend that seeing as how you're bitching about $10, you clearly don't have money to lose or play with. And that's what you'd be doing with penny stocks, playing with them.

There is "some" money to be had.

>> No.287036

>>287003
I have $25,000 for this, and I'm planning on putting $5000 into the market tomorrow. I'm very new to this, you can find my posts earlier up.

I'm not bitching about losing $10, I'm bitching that the $10 fee makes it completely impossible to day trade rapidly unless you're willing to put down several thousands of dollars on each trade, because you'll be glad if expensive stocks go up one dollar in a day, but you're only going to be making a dollar per share then.

Without the fee you could do this with far less risk and make constant 1-9 bucks off everything for far less money by trading all day. It forces you to be conservative, and make longer-term big trades, when I can already tell what I really want to do is trade rapidly throughout the day. I sit on a computer all fucking day in the house, and I have more than enough time to sit there all day trading.

I'm here to make large amounts of money, and I really do plan on putting several thousands down very often, it's just my thought so far on trading fees.

>> No.287037
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>>287036
>putting $5000 into the market tomorrow
>I'm very new to this

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>>287037
Unfortunately, I'm really only going to be losing money from the trading fee otherwise. I really see absolutely no point for me to even play with stocks unless I'm putting down thousands.

It's not like I'm investing in anything but companies that aren't going anywhere, and it's not like I could ever lose a significant amount of that money, I could just sell it back, those shares aren't going down by any "significant" amount.

I bought IBM stock today, if I bought 27 shares at the same price ($5099.49), and sold them all at $90.66 today, I would have made $38.32 taking the $10 fee into account, just within a few hours.

If say tomorrow, or maybe sometime in the next few days it goes back up to $194, I would have made $128 including the trading fee. If it went down even a few bucks and I decided to sell it instead of holding it (which I probably would until it went back up), it's not like I would be losing $5000, or any sort of "significant" amount of money.

As of now, I've made about $3 profit off the trade, which isn't even enough to cover the $10 trading fee. Case in point, I have no reason to keep trading small amounts, because the overhead of the trading fee is just going put me in the red if I do. Even if I'm new to this, it's what I have to do, or I just have to not do it at all.

>> No.287071

>>287036
multiple brokers, e.g. tdameritrade, etrade start you with 60 days free trading, 2 months free, ect.

you buy 2000 shares, and it goes up buy just $.01, you've already covered your $20

>> No.287072

>>287036
>I'm not bitching about losing $10, I'm bitching that the $10 fee makes it completely impossible to day trade rapidl

pretty sure you have to have 20,000 usd minimum to day trade, because it's viewed as an extension of credit

>> No.287073

>>287056
everything about posting fucking immature japanese cartoon-like pictures with each little bitch boy explanation tells me you are unprepared. and likely moderately overweight, a slow learner and likely generally unattractive.

>> No.287074

>>287071
This is a very temporary solution, and it's a big hassle. I would rather not maintain multiple brokerage accounts.

Well, it's temporary unless something like etrade gives you 60 days free trading, and allows you to sign up for multiple accounts with the same identity and still get that benefit each time. However even if they did, this is something I seriously do not want to do at all, it's not exactly easy or quick to sign up for accounts with these online brokers, and this would be a huge hassle to juggle all the accounts, if not a larger security risk.

>> No.287078

>>287056
You bought IBM the day after they reported horrible earnings? 4th consecutive quarter of missed revenue projections?

Look at what happened after Jan 21 when they partially missed earnings. In this case, I'd expect them to work their way down to the low 170's, at least, over a few weeks. If you're lucky it might close the gap up to 195 before going lower, maybe.

>> No.287079

>>287073
I'm skinny as shit, and I think I learn quite quickly. I posted the jap cartoon because I know it gets some pricks mad on other boards. Did you remember that you're on 4chan cunt?

also why do you talk like this yet call other people immature

>bitch boy

Nothing about that was bitching. I'm just explaining what I think to the guy who implied it was dumb/silly for someone new to stock trading to be putting down $5000 on a trade.

>>287072
I pretty much see that now.

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287081

>>287078
Yes I did.

I don't think it will go down that far, but we'll see.

>> No.287083

>>287081
Well good luck. I'm no trading expert by any means, so hopefully I'm completely wrong here.

>> No.287104

how long do you have to own a stock to get the dividend?

say i have 100 shares of mcd at 100usd each. my crystal ball says tomorrow it will go to 97, then the next day back at 100. is it worth it to sell all at 100, then buy all back at 97? or is there somehow a disadvantage to doing that and i should just hold through the up and down?

>> No.287121

>stocks general
Which online brokers let me trade with unsettled funds?
TDAmerica a shit. 3-5 days = lose money

>> No.287125

>>287104
>how long do you have to own a stock to get the dividend?

Highly depends on the stock and when they issue dividends. I'm just going to say this, you're not going to be making much of anything off dividends alone. You'll literally spend most of your entire life waiting to break even.

>> No.287127

Is there such a thing as a brokerage with NO fee?
As in I can trade all I want without being slowly eaten away by leeches?

>> No.287137

>>287056
>taking the $10 fee into account, just within a few hours.
every action is 10 bucks, but if you think about it all money that comes out as a profit had to be bought, then sold. so its really 20 bucks and it adds up fast if you like to juggle.

scottrade is 7 bucks

>> No.287138

>>287104
You get the dividend if you own the stock through the ex dividend date. Usually the stock falls in price after the ex dividend date to account for the dividend (If anyone holding the stock on May 1st is entitled to a $1 dividend, the stock should be worth $1 less after May first)

>> No.287143

>>286825
If you're bitching about $10 fees, you shouldn't be a trader. Be an investor until you have enough capital where $10 isn't anything.

>> No.287483

>>287143
What's the difference between a trader and an investor?

>> No.287490

>>287483
A few million dollars.

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Why the HELL is the market closed for good friday?

>> No.287656

>>287483
There's also the speculator, which applies to most people here.

>> No.287660

>>287545
Holiday quota.

>> No.287675

>>286084
What's so bad about the taxes if you don't hold over a year? Is this just for you ameribros?

>> No.287680

>>287675
capital gains on property held over a year is taxed at a lower rate in clapistan, otherwise you pay at your normal rate.

>> No.287701

>>287680
How much percent? I'm from austria and have to pay 25% capital gain tax on every successfull trade.

>> No.287716

>>279085
I bought 20000 shares at 0.0600 (~800€) and will hold for a while just for fun.

>> No.288092

>>273304
Good lord I don't think you know shit about how stocks work.

>> No.288096

>>273149
It's from Dealogic, I think it's like 11k a license

>> No.288154

Bought WWE at $23.20 after the WM drop. Hoped it would do something. Should I sell it before it drops to the teens? or have some faith?

>> No.288168

>>288154
>faith in wwe
>not being 12
>not being the 1990s or 1980s

wwe come on man

>> No.288173

>>288168
I made a shitty decision buying it, I know. I just got greedy and was hoping for a payout and wasn't thinking. Sort of stuck here now.

>> No.288243

FUCK TECH STOCKS
and fuck short term trading

buy MCD and MO
hold them for years

>> No.288866

>tfw constantly checking stocks app
>tfw void in life

>> No.288885

XONE rallying the past couple days.

God I wish I didn't buy in at $40 on the advice of some random dude on /biz/, but it looks like I might get my money back soon.

What's everyone opinion on Radioshack? Personally I hate the store and it probably won't be around in five years, but the stock seems low enough that it should have decent room for a 100%-300% pump within a year before it has its last dying gasps. Thinking of putting some serious money on it.

>> No.289018

>>288885
Hoping for a pump? Why not go gamble instead?

>> No.289060

>>284553
Listening to Wipe ever. You fucks will never learn.

>> No.289074

>>287056
Buy stocks below 5 dollars. that way if the stock goes up a 1 dollar you just made 1 grand :D

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enjoy

>> No.289112

you want big money stocks?
Lets make it happen /biz.
>>289104

>> No.290127

>>288885
>What's everyone opinion on Radioshack? Personally I hate the store and it probably won't be around in five years

Well I know they have a shit store that's useless now, and full of extremely overpriced stuff. Just on that basis I wouldn't touch it. Pretty much any company I hate or think makes shitty products I wouldn't touch.

>> No.290158

>>289074
You're proposing a 20% increase

>> No.291096

>>289098
who made this and is this legit? also, why?

>> No.292205

>>291096
1) Obviously some guy from here

2) It's just a list of a bunch of companies that guy likes to buy shares in. It's as legit as that.

>> No.292216

>>288866
Which stocks app do you use?

>> No.292369

>>287680
>>287138
>>287125
and the plot thickens.

whats the tax difference between over a year vs juggling? if i own a stock for 2 years, sell and buy it back within one day, is it back to the old tax % for the next year?

are hit and runs [assuming you were doing that right] better than considering tax rates and dividends [buy and hold]?

>> No.293122

>>292216
It's called "Stock Quote" on the google market. Also rofl at AMD taking off

>> No.293157

>>293122
Thanks again dude. Easiest $500 i ever made. Buy again when its back around 3.7?

>> No.293174

>>293157

> back around 3.7

You got out to early man. It's going to the moon. Also lol at the guy who shorted it with everything.

>> No.293182

>>293174
No such thing. Profits are profits.

>> No.293463
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293463

You guys should buy Helmerich & Payne, or rather should have.

I've already made money off this shit, bought 50 shares at 112.80.

>> No.293630

>>293174
Lets all laugh at this guy. He doesn't understand shares outstanding.

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>>292369
anyone?