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This desu

>> No.26543925

>>26543852
Whoever said the system was voluntary

>> No.26543941

no work no food waaaaaaah

>> No.26543969
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>>26543852
The slave system never changed.
It just gave you the illusion that it was voluntary and worthwhile.

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>>26543969

>> No.26544083
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>>26543969
>>26544030

>> No.26544119

>>26543969
Property rights can only exist if there is a body capable of enforcing said rights.

In this case, that body is the government. The government is compensated for this service through taxation.

Therefore, "taxation is theft" is a nonsensical statement, as theft can only exist so long as there are property rights to violate, and property rights can only exist if there is a body to enforce them.

QED

>> No.26544172

>>26543852
You are a biological creature that will perish without access to food, water, medical care, clothes, and shelter. There’s no economic system that changes this fact.

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This is now an anti-tax thread.

>> No.26544202

>>26543852
>wtf why won't people just give me food and shelter for free REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.26544277

>>26544119
Most libertarians are fine with private courts, which constitute a body capable of enforcing said rights without taxation

>> No.26544362

>>26543852
He who does not work shall not eat.

>> No.26544407

>>26543852
>the slaves, I mean farmers, should just give me their food for free

>> No.26544483
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>>26544362
Forgot pic

>> No.26544565

>>26543852
hot take: no food for no work

shit goes back to the 1600s idiot, contribute or die, you are a social species.

>> No.26545222

>>26544565
>shit goes back to the 1600s
shit goes back to the BIBLE
2 Thessalonians

>> No.26545304

>>26543852
Sustaining life requires some work. If you don't provide some food and shelter for yourself, somebody somewhere is carrying you on their shoulders. This is the default and ideally capitalism is based on this.
Every form of state is an ideological alteration to the default and always leads to dysgenics/decay.

>> No.26545305

As if communism doesnt expect the same. Communism is one big: take my excuse i know people

>> No.26545349

>>26543852
go live in the woods and be free then.
sage

>> No.26545458

>>26544277

a kangaroo court that can cut my balls off just for being a gay autist count me in

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>>26543852
>life is a scam
indeed, indeed

>> No.26545962

>If I don't breathe I die
>I am forced to breathe
>I am being oppressed

>> No.26546058

>>26544172

Go live in the woods and see how useful your 1000 shares of Amazon are.

>> No.26546103

>>26544362

Agreed, capital owners are parasites on working people.

>> No.26546344

>>26543852
What is this supposed to refer to, Capitalism? That sounds more like a gripe against existence itself frankly. That's a pretty useless point to make. Pain and want will always be inescapable no matter what elaborate system we create. Can you do better, Snowflake?

>> No.26546433

>>26543852
It would be involuntary if the system caused you to starve. Instead starving is what happens by default with or without that system. Its existence is a way out of it, not a cause for it.

>> No.26546483

>>26544362
Based Lenin

>> No.26546498

Is she talking about the laws of nature? No nature is not “voluntary”

>> No.26546511

>>26543852
>>26543969
>>26544030
>>26544083
You had 3 years

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>>26545962
op reked

>> No.26546537

>>26545962
Breathing feels good, but doing what other people tell you to do feels bad.

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26546577

wtf I love systems that force you to work or send you to gulags now

>> No.26546678

Farmers in 1600 AD had it right guise

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>>26546511
my sides

>> No.26546714

>>26543852
Nature? Nobody said it was voluntary.

>> No.26546795

>>26544119
you clearly do not understand the difference between force and violence.
Actions that are riights are not violent
demanding tax for your labor is a claim of slavery

why dont you stop being a nigger and listen to Frederick Douglass on the subject of taxation

>> No.26546816

>>26546537
ask me how I know you have a deep sadness in your soul

>> No.26546924

>>26546577
cringe

>> No.26546979

>>26543852
Wanna know how I know this was written by a black or brown person? Whites evolved to work, thats why they chose to live in a continent with SEASONS.

>> No.26547172

>>26544565
>>26545222
This shit goes back for fucking forever, christ
life on earth is this involuntary system where you have to put in effort in order to subsist and continue living
it's literally the thing that makes us conscious
we must work to survive
just as ALL animals on this planet - no, all LIFE on this planet

this is the fucking most idiotic "hot take" I've seen in a long while
It amounts to the "I didn't ask to be born" kind of angst that 14-year olds experience

>> No.26547209

>>26546979
they "chose" to live in a continent?

did biz fail fucking every class or what

>> No.26547292

>>26543852
You can leave the system and go to the woods. Everything is free in the woods.

>> No.26547319

>>26543852
"He who does not work, shall not eat" - Lenin

You think other people are just supposed to provide for you through *their* labor while you get to sit around and do nothing?

>> No.26547338

>>26546924
dilate

>> No.26547368

>>26547338
seethe

>> No.26547373

>>26543852
If this was true all niggers would be homeless

>> No.26547375

>>26546058
The natural world is so depleted of resources that no one can survive in western “nature” anymore though. Certainly not billions of people. Agriculture is necessary to feed the world population and you gotta pay to eat crops