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>tfw dad was setting me up to fail from the start so he could have someone to be better than
He was so fucking close. If it wasn’t for the COVID lockdowns I would have never figured it out and would’ve stayed his good cuck forever.

>> No.26350878

story? also kys blogposter but I can relate

>> No.26350949

>>26350851
>would’ve stayed his good cuck forever
... what?

>> No.26350985

>>26350851
My parents basically ignored me growing up unless I played too many video games... then the belt came out.

>> No.26350987

>>26350851
>so he could have someone to be better than
Did you leave out part of this sentence?

>> No.26351039

>>26350985
actually this

>> No.26351059

>>26350851
I feels ya bro. I remember when i asked my mom for a 3k loan for an investment and he sneered "what you got a hot tip? Why don't you actually go back to school and stop wasting your time" And reiterated what his financial advisor told him about crypto.
Made 100x on it and bought my mom a new car as a thankyou gift for believing in me.
Keep those who want to help you close anon.

>> No.26351098

>>26351059
>bought my mom a new car as a thankyou gift for believing in me.
You're very based sir and you're gonna go far.

>> No.26351121

>>26350878
He basically made sure I stayed a passive good cuck who did everything he wanted using positive feedback. Recently I started calling him out on the fucked up shit he says and when he lies or exaggerates stuff and he’s gets taken aback when I do that now. I realized how much he likes when people do what he says just for its own sake. It’s all fucked up. I thought he was a nice guy but the more I hear him talk now the more I realize his a grandiose POS.

>> No.26351186

>>26350985
>then the belt came out.
You have good parents anon. The bent builds character

>> No.26351216

>>26350851
I can’t comprehend this post

>> No.26351226

>>26351098
She always knew id pay back what i owed. I wanted to let her know how serious i was about it and said i would pay an extra 500 on top of what i owed her. She would have given me the 3k without question, but my parents have been fucked over enough by relatives and i never wanted to be a leech or to take advantage of them.

>> No.26351276

>>26351121
My dads turning into the same. Watches too much cnn and asked if i was a racist or a sexist because i question any form of propeganda or policy.
Can't wait to point out the fact that cnn has stopped using the covid death counter sice biden got in lmao

>> No.26351288

>>26351186
no. Anon would not have gotten the belt if his parents gave him attention. read what he said again. Don't encourage that shit only bad parents rob their children of braincells while they are developing

>> No.26351326

>>26351276
>liberal father
god I can't imagine having a dad who gives a shit about the opinions of minorities or women other than his wife. what hell must that be

>> No.26351343

>>26351121
>I started calling him out on the fucked up shit he says and when he lies or exaggerates stuff and he’s gets taken aback when I do that now
You sound like an annoying little faggot

>> No.26351395

>>26351216
My dad desperately doesn’t want me to become better than him. For example, I’m taller than him but he insists on making jabs about my height. Petty stuff like that constantly. Always underestimating my mental and physical abilities despite him being an aging brainlet.

>> No.26351532

>>26351395
This is getting dark bro

>> No.26351950

>>26351326
My dad is a retired libcuck professor. He contributed to academic literature on equality and taught it. He's a huge narcissist and I had a similar experience to OP. He was abusive when I was growing up, hitting me and constantly shouting at me, but 'turned nice' now that I'm older. He enables my mental problems (bad OCD) and has fed my delusions. I honestly think he wants me to be mentally ill and weak.

Even the other day I said I would start working out daily to put on some muscle since I'm skinny as fuck and his reaction was "Why do you want to put on muscle? You don't need to do that." and he ranted about steroid abuse for 10 minutes despite no mention of it. I laughed at him and asked him what the fuck he was talking about and he sulked and tried to make me feel bad about it.

>> No.26352009

>>26351395
More than likely you're a fucking moron teenager.

Your dad would gladly die for you and you're so paranoid you think he's trying to suppress you.

>> No.26352072

>>26351121
my dad pulled the same sort of shit for a long time until i called him out about it. then i introduced him to crypto and we've both made a ton of money and have a great relationship now. good luck, anon

>> No.26352084

>>26351121
This sounds like baby's first revolt, of course he wants to influence you he's your fucking dad lmao
If you really can't bear it move out

>> No.26352109

>>26351326
Honestly his question itself was not only insulting as it insinuates a negative personality. But it also showed how out of the loop he was.

>> No.26352144

>>26350949
Hey OP, what the fuck did you mean by this?

>> No.26352174

>>26351950
>I laughed at him and asked him what the fuck he was talking about and he sulked and tried to make me feel bad about it.
good response, fuck gains goblins

>> No.26352210

>>26352109
Many boomers don't understand the point of lifting, you guys all sound like paranoid little sissies
When you grow up you'll be secure enough in yourselves not to take everything as an insult or an attempt to subdue you.
t. Was the same at 19-23

>> No.26352233

>>26351326
Yeah it was pretty fucked up. I'm gonna take my kids out to shoot guns and hunt and probably say nigger in front of them a few times.

>> No.26352235

>>26351121
yeah, similar situation here.
Once LINK hits $1000 I'll move out and tell him to fuck himself

>> No.26352300

>>26352144
he's a nutjob lmao too much pol clearly

>> No.26352311

>>26351395
You sound like a little bitch. Stop complaining you tall piece of Shit. Your mental and physical abilities are complete garbage I’m sure.

>> No.26352348

>>26352300
Interesting. Cause the way you phrased it kinda sounds like you've been taking your dad's loads in your ass.

>> No.26352380

>>26352348
I'm sorry that was mean

>> No.26352405

>>2635238

I’ve never seen an apology on here. Just stick to your first comment. That’s too weird

>> No.26352437

>>26352311
Based

>> No.26352523

>>26351121
my father does the same but I wonder if he even knows what he is doing. to me it seems that at his age he is just locked into his behaviours and scripts like a npc.
He always uses guilt when he feels ignored and praises when you do what he wants.
If what you do benefits yourself in the long run (which he should mainly care about if there was any unconditional love), he doesnt really consider it. its basically only about his feels and what feels right to him.
I concluded that for him, everything really only is about him (narcissism).
I learned what he wants from me. he wants me to be impressed by him and praise him. I thought that I was always only being friendly, but I got literally programmed to praise him since birth and it makes me sick.
I thought about these and other things a lot and nowadays I use these mechanics to exploit him. When I ignore him, he gets really desperate and you can feel it. He wont leave me alone. Spam calling. When I ignore him on whatsapp he msg via sms or even E-Mail.
But he doesnt miss me. He doesnt care about me and if I am happy or not. What he misses is the validation that I gave him and he doesnt realize it himself or care at all.

>> No.26352535

>>26351395
Sounds like you're autistic and finding hostility in his awkward attempts to connect.

>> No.26352566
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26352566

why was i born?

>> No.26352578

>>26352144
>>26352233
>>26352348
>>26352380
are you autistic

>> No.26352687

>>26352523
I asked myself the following question a lot. "if my father could choose between
A: Me being the happiest I could be but having nothing to do with him or
B: Me being miserable, but staying in contact with him to validate his bullshit ego,
then what would he choose?
It's B and that is exactly why I need to cut him out of my life. If it was A that would not be necessary

>> No.26352789

>>26352348
>triggered pol fag

It's not my fault your dad didnt want you anon.

>> No.26352802

>>26352210
I don't let it bother me. If anything i just feel bad for him bro.

>> No.26352906

Just pretend to love him and all that bs as long as you gain from it. then when you can you just move out and cut contact

>> No.26352933

>>26350851
Anon, i say you're too occupied with your feelings. Gain independence, live on your own, make your own decisions. There's literally no point in analyzing and telling us things you feel are holding you back like a dear diary entry. Ffs just grow up. How many were straight beaten all day or didn't have any father at all. Most fathers are weak just like most people are week. What did you expect. Now stop feeling special and make other /biz emofags jump in threads like these.

>> No.26353021

>>26352210
my father activiley discouraged me from lifting and eating healthy, because he feeled threatened, but he sold it as "I know better. You are doing this wrong anyways. Do what I do if anything at all".

>> No.26353070

>>26352009
the concept of an abusive person is so foreign to you that you aggressively deny the victim's reality
my adolescence was filled with people like you downplaying the abuse I suffered. you do a lot of harm to people who are already suffering. narcissism is extremely fucked up and beyond sheltered people's comprehension

>> No.26353089

>>26353021
>my father actively discouraged me from lifting
Ffs what fucking crybabies exist in this shithole? I knew from the beginning this thread is a trigger for all the emotional /biz fags jumping heads in to sperg about their father feelings.

>> No.26353143

>>26352523
>>26352687
That's honestly a very complex situation. It could be that he is massively insecure and needa constant validation, and doesn't truly act in a manipulative way. But it could be exactly as you deacribed as well. The bottom line is, if you reach the conclusion the relationship affects you really badly, and want to cut off ties, then doing it is correct. At least temporarily, it usually gives one time to think about the situation from "afar" and see it in new light.

>> No.26353144

>>26353070
There's a difference if you're 0-14 years old. But being older than that and having grown up socialized with other people, literally nothing should prevent you from gaining independence.

>> No.26353215

>>26351950
He probably was afraid of you fitring into the bodybuilder stereotype. Since his schtick is social critic, he probably categorizes everyone, so in his mind, if you want to get nore muscle, it must mean you are going to become vain and retarded and start abusing steroids

>> No.26353240

>>26353144
completely agree that you can't let the negative things that happen to you be an excuse to feel sorry for yourself and never try to pull yourself up
it's difficult to get past however and the victim is definitely disadvantaged and needs to put years of effort into unfucking their brain. it doesn't start getting better until the abuser is out of the picture, and they go out of their way to prevent the victim from leaving and being able to fix themself
people who gripe and don't try to improve need a kick in pants, not a curbstomp

>> No.26353269

>>26352348
>>26352380
Autism, the posts

>> No.26353312

>>26351186
Anyone who belts their children deserves for child protective services to take their children away.
I hope you either kill yourself or change your ways you fucking autist.

>> No.26353380

>>26351121
your dad may be something of a narcissist (aka emotional vampire). try reading up on it and seeing if the way he treats you can be explained by that framework.
r/RaisedByNarcissists is a good resource despite being >>>leddit

>> No.26353409

>>26350985
>the belt came out
He pulled your pants down?

>> No.26353460

>>26353240
You're right, maybe my post was a bit offensive. I understand that also older people still can suffer from purely emotional abuse. The only thing that helps: Gaining distance and through it independence. It's difficult if not impossible to change one's role and self perception without changing things and actively avoid people with negative influence.

>> No.26353472

>>26352566
To do good in the world.

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>>26350851
>>tfw dad was setting me up to fail from the start so he could have someone to be better than

Same with me anon
.i'll never forgive him for constantly insulting me and brining my confidence down whenever I tried to achioeve anything.

>> No.26353556

>>26353021
I would just ignore him lol, mine thinks Ukrainian immigrants add plaster to the protein powders I buy kek, I just raise my eyebrows and keep using them

>> No.26353786

>>26353556
Kek what a based euroboomer

>> No.26353835

>>26351276
>cnn has stopped using the covid death counter sice biden got in lmao
If one person was in charge while the house caught fire and completely went up in flames, and then the other person became in charge when the house was totally engulfed, are both equally responsible for the fire?

>> No.26353902

>>26353835
Are you justifying politically selective media? You fucking retard.

>> No.26353963

>>26353460
absolutely.

also it's easy for people on here to forget but remember that normies are multiple standard deviations lower IQ than us. they can't even figure out their own lives when not dealing with a disadvantage, it's unreasonable to expect someone who's essentially grown up with their parent FUDing them to be able to deal with it. like you said, independence and cutting toxic people out of your life is the cure, but people stay paralyzed and let themselves stay in their shitty situations due to things such as a lack of understanding of what's going on, willful ignorance, fear, etc
also people take on the roles that are thrust upon them. if you are treated as a slave your subconscious will understand this and you will play your part and stay in line. you will support the state's propaganda, you will own nothing and like it, you will feel a great deal of anxiety at the thought of trying to change your role due to the fear of the unknown. their mentality is that they already know their place, and there is comfort in the routine and structure, so why change? they won't understand their mistake until the pot is already boiling

obviously anyone is *capable* of making changes to themself, improving, breaking the cycle and escaping the fear and negativity but few actually do. like, look at this thread >>26348050
filled with Anons talking about trying to serve financial independence on a silver platter to people they knew and watching them decide to stay poor. I'm sure everybody here has experienced that interaction. it makes no sense and yet it happens.
apologies if this post is jumbled, it's 4am. I hope you get my point. I appreciate you conceding some of the intensity of your original post btw

>> No.26354059

>>26353835
whats wrong with you?

>> No.26354074

>>26353835
ngmi

>> No.26354144

>>26353963
>if you are treated as a slave your subconscious will understand this and you will play your part and stay in line
4chan should have a text formate for underlining sentences. This 100x. Mostly fear and comfort holds us in roles while our subconsciousness builds our personality around that role.

>> No.26354205

>>26353070
You sound like a communist Faggot rn

>> No.26354274

>>26351276
What a fucking cuck he is

>> No.26354315

>>26351395
He’s just bantering you spastic. Banter back and if he gets upset than even better. If he’s bullying you then you must tell him to stop.

>> No.26354336

>>26354144
Yeah i hope a lot of anons get a chance to read what >>26353963 said. I myself have removed toxic people and stop being a MOMMASBOII as JLP says

>> No.26354350

>ITT
>MY PARENTS ARE LIBERAL SO THEY'RE SHIT
>I WISH THEY WERE CONSERVATIVES SO THEY COULD HIT ME WHEN I PLAYED VIDEO GAMES

>> No.26354455

Im so glad my dad is pretty cool
he's not really liberal or conservative just normal
he showed me how to cut trees / make firewood, work on cars etc
He even called me out for being a retard in highschool when I almost fell for the antifa meme, Im eternally thankful for that kek

>> No.26354557

>>26351121
you have to be at least 18 to post here.

>> No.26354564

My dad is just so pathetic. It's weird.

>just watches chick flick tv shows on Netflix all day when he isn't working
>mumbles to himself a lot
>tries to be "funny" but is genuinely cringe. 0 comedic delivery, forced, pity laughs regularly
>genuinely has zero friends
>only ever talks about politics if some guy tries to talk to him at a social function
>no hobbies. none.
>always needs to downplay others if they're better than him.
>I suspect he gets bullied or socially excluded at work

My mother is also dumb in an obnoxious way. She's like the lady from Keeping Up Appearances IRL.
>attempts hobbies briefly, like painting or drawing, and fucking sucks horribly at them but displays and talks about them like they're really good
>horrible cook aside from a few things. doesn't use salt and pepper.
>had a small stroke a few years ago. Whenever I tell her she needs to exercise, she flips the fuck out and turns the conversation about my shortcomings.
>I can never get a straight answer out of her about something because she turns it into a preach/lecture session
>literally doesn't stop talking. I have never met someone who talks as much as her. I made her mad about the exercise thing and while she was ranting at me, I took a 2 hour nap and woke up to find her still doing a mix of talking to herself and ranting at me

I turned out super shitty up until like my early 20s. Now I'm extroverted, athletic, have many very close friends, and am charismatic. I can't even relate to these people. My sister left the family and cut off all contact. My parents found out where she worked somehow and went to her workplace for thanksgiving unannounced thinking that would be a good idea.

they're just so fucking pathetic.

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>>26354144
the changes in my own mentality I noticed after multiplying my net worth with a solid all-in pump and then again after making some losing trades and being below my initial were eye opening. went from my baseline to feeling above the people around me to feeling like a fraud retard and essentially turning off my brain and accepting that I'm a slave to cope instead of grappling with the anxiety of "making it" getting so much further away

>>26354205
not a commie, just bitter about how every attempt I made to reach out for support or be understood while I was growing up was met with gaslighting because normies don't understand that there are genuinely diseased people out there who manipulate and harm their own children (people who are not the main abuser but participate in gaslighting a victim are referred to as "flying monkeys"). it wasn't until I learned what that mental framework was, understood it, and learned how to describe it clinically that people would listen and trust me when I would explain how my father's seemingly benign yet strange and crappy actions carried a deeply troubling subtext with a weight of a lifetime of compounding abuse

>> No.26354627

>>26351121
Your Dad may not have come to terms with his dotage, and as a young man your masculine power should be obvious if you're not a sissy. He will be intimidated by this. Your Mum will as well, as she desperately wishes for the cute young boy she used to care for, and wish to dote on you. However, men being men, they are more upfront. Be careful of a mother's love past 18, Anon.

>> No.26354677

>>26352523
congratulations, 13 year old, you just described 99.99999% of people alive.

seek a yogi if you want someone not like this because literally everyone is like this.

>> No.26354699

>>26354564
>doesn't use salt
What the fuck?

>> No.26354705

>>26354564
what country is this? this seems weird as fuck but glad you are working to overcome everything, good luck anon.

>> No.26354732

>>26354564
Ok, Mr Bucket.

>> No.26354763
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26354763

>>26350851
Was he?

How much DMG do you own?

Hope it's more than a suicide stack so you can rub it in his face forever in 2021.

>> No.26354810

>>26354705
America. I will say this - my dad is white, my mother is a south american he married while in the military. Same mentality as the beta guy going overseas to asia to marry a woman. I believe my dad would have otherwise died alone and childless.

I grew up a turbo-beta, but now recreationally practice MMA (as do all my friends) and at work can make my coworkers laugh until they snort. Make of that what you will. In a lot of ways I'm still socially behind and feel like a caveman that got dethawed, especially with women. Women like me, find me funny, but I'm still knew to the idea of not being repulsive to them when they flirt so I'm often confused.

>> No.26354857

>>26353143
this

Holy shit, this thread is sad. the people yakking about 'narcissism' are delusional - how self-aggrandised do you have to be to think this world owes you anything, weasel, judgemental, good for nothing rats. shut the fuck up. i'll take a confident 'narcissist' over a slimey self-righteous asshole who thinks the world owes them giving a shit. seriously, you play too much video games. fuck off!!!

i just am stunned at how sad this all is. i suggest you accept that the internet changed how people process information, and that they can't process information, but that they raised you, so you have a duty to honour them for their whole life. this is a good idea especially if you have children because then they will be more likely to emulate your behaviour.

my parents are libshits but at least they were strict and didn't buy into the degeneracy, i feel like 75% of the people on this thread had 100% absentee parents. i weep for you.

>> No.26354863

>>26354810
>my mother is a south american he married while in the military
So you're brown? Nasty. Still, glad you're on the up, Anon. You're making it. Proud of you, son.

>> No.26354887

>>26351121
I get that so much. My dad is also running his own company, where I also started to work due to covid. It's pathetic how he constantly just wants to disagree with everyone. He needs to always remind everyone that he is the most important and smartest man in the company. You can't really have a conversation with him you just need to applaud what he is saying or he starts a beef with you. I'm 24 and he still tries to give teach me "life lessons", but his advice is always contradictory. For example he tells me to just shut up and listen and not ask questions, other times he's like, you should just ask questions. I can see through his veil and all this arrogance is just a cope because he's not particularly sociable or funny. He's a real tough guy in his company because no one is allowed to disagree with him, but when he has a confrontation outside of work, he's always so cringe because his dominance dynamics are not working. He often buys equipment for an expensive hobby and just forgets about it. I hate him but I also pity him and wish he had a better life. I don't like being around him.
>good to know im not alone out there

>> No.26354948

>>26354887
>I don't like being around him.
what an accurate phrase

>> No.26355160

>>26354863
yes, it is unfortunate. I don't look hispanic though nor do I have any sort of ties to the culture/food/language, etc.

>> No.26355417

>>26354677
>seek a yogi if you want someone not like this because literally everyone is like this.
Most yogis are like this too. Narcissism is the human condition. A challenge we all have to overcome.

>> No.26355674

>>26354581
Ok fair enough I’m sorry I hope things improve for you

>> No.26356048

>>26354581
anon its nice to vent with similar minded people. There's enough threads for there to be a place for ((us)) to help one another cause as you said its pretty hard to find that in RL.

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>>26351226
>my parents have been fucked over enough by relatives
know the feel

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Are we all crying about DADDY ISSUES itt?
Kek.

My dad is a self described “liberal elitist” MENSAN and when he is a fucking asshole we play chess and I demolish him. If you cant beat your dad in chess he has every right to mog you. And if your dad cant play chess how can you even take him seriously? Honestly unless your dad is confirmed high IQ like mine how can you take him seriously? Kek.

>> No.26357805

>>26356992
Based
I put my dad through a wall when i was 17

>> No.26358709

>>26350851
Same here. Permanently damaged and constantly one moment away from anhero, sadly don't have the guts to actually do it.
He had a few failed /biz/'s during the 70s & 80s and he filled me with hatred towards money and /biz/ during my childhood in the 90s/00s.
Overall a fucked up upbringing has led me to a mental hospital where I've been for five years. I'm 30+ today and a complete failure.

>> No.26358833

Bros I'm scared of being a father one day and unintentionally repeating the mistakes of my parents, or worse bringing kids into our cucked existence

>> No.26359444

>>26358709
Keep your chin up. Forgive your father and move.