NMR - day trade or HODL?

[Anonymous No.2630611]

Any predictions for today boys? Seems stable at ~.022 since yesterday.

[Anonymous No.2630633]

It has lost 60% of its volume since yesterday.

I dont know who to use this information though.

[Anonymous No.2631702]

This is over

Its never going back up

Should never listen to emotional hodlers

I drew my lines and they were spot on

I would have sold at 320k and boughr back in at 170k

[Anonymous No.2631945]

>>2631702
Except it will. Except you are very impatient newcoiner.

Reminder, this coin is only 4 days old. Giving any predictions about it now is foolish.

Anon is right one point though. It will very likely not go up in short term.

When people say HODL they mean a few days to weeks

[Anonymous No.2631964]

>>2630611
Why would anyone invest in such a retarded coin? Cryptocurrency for AI machines that don't even exist yet?

[Anonymous No.2632003]

>>2631945
Regardless of that, unless theres a massive pnd scheduled, when the graph goes exponential you have to sell because theres a correction incoming always

[Anonymous No.2632024]

Holdling like a madman since 0.02, made cash at every step, might buy more if it sinks back to <15$

[Anonymous No.2632035]

>>2631964
Found the shill

[Anonymous No.2632193]

>>2631964
Do you just shitpost without fucking looking what it does?

The system is already working you tard. And no, it's not some magical AI like you imagine. The AI improves itself by people submitting predictions to the AI.

If you get it right you get money. If you get it wrong you loose money. It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.2632208]

>>2632193
What is more the better the AI the more money it makes. The more money there is to be won. That is, if you have tokens to enter...

It's like a lottery with limited tickets.

[Anonymous No.2632210]

>>2632193
Its actually a cool idea and coin.
>Inb4 Bitbean

[Anonymous No.2632354]

>>2632210
Bitbean offers 0. It's just a means of payment.

Perhaps read the white paper?

This coin earns you money by making correct predictions about the stock market.

It gives everybody a chance to play with stocks without having a large start capital and gives them the possibility to win more numeraire which they can use to stake more...

You can start with 0.0000001 cent which you can't do with stocks.

The white paper also sais the amount you earn is directly proportional by how accurate you are decided by the amount of tokens you have.

In simple words: the most accurate people will get payed out first, but you need a lot of tokens to win a significant amount of money.

And if you are wrong your tokens are destroyed. So high risk high reward. If a data sciencetist is wrong for 1000NMR these tokens are destroyed.

Given that people make mistakes this will drive the price up by huge clicks whenever somebody makes a mistake and betted a lot of tokens

[Anonymous No.2632384]

>>2631702
It may go up again, but NEVER EVER listen to emotional holders.

[Anonymous No.2632396]

>>2631945

this guy knows.

[Anonymous No.2632413]

Real-talk though. I've combed through forums online and I still can't find any reason to buy these tokens. They're a form of payment to the data scientists for having the most accurate solution to the data sets posted on Numer.ai

Does anyone actually know if the returns of the hedgefund find their way back into the value of the token?

[Anonymous No.2632422]

>>2632354
Don't you have to submit a solution to a dataset in order to stake?

[Anonymous No.2632437]

>>2632413
Nope. All privatized profit lmfao, it's just heavily shilled, probably by data-scientists

[Anonymous No.2633013]

I am fucking done, bought at 0,04 and I thought I learned my lesson with ANS.

[Anonymous No.2633094]

>>2633013
>ANS
Look how old ANS is. you could have bought it at $0.10
NMR has not even started

[Anonymous No.2633205]

>i trusted a nmr kike

[Anonymous No.2633241]

by the time i posted that it went further down -44%

[Anonymous No.2633263]

looks like everyone got rekt.
no big deal, just a year of bagholding.

[Anonymous No.2633268]

lottery winners are literally just dumping their coins

[Anonymous No.2633272]

Jesus Christ people, look at the state of the market. Calm the fuck down.

[Anonymous No.2633290]

hodl is the absolute worst autistic shit there is

im never listening to an emotionally attached hodl nigger

my intuition was to sell everything off at 320k

third times the charm

[Anonymous No.2633291]

So why couldn't NMR predict its own crash? ahahahhahah

[Anonymous No.2633300]

>>2633272
other coins went down 10%, this one is down 45%

people are dumping their lottery bags

shit is going down back to 50k

[Anonymous No.2633301]

my baagss halp halp

[Anonymous No.2633308]

>>2631945
>Reminder, this coin is only 4 days old. Giving any predictions about it now is foolish.

dude... look at every single fucking coin on bittrex and tell me what they have incommon


A HUGE FUCKING PUMP at the start
this is nothing new you dense faggot

[Anonymous No.2633316]

>its at 150k now

all HODL niggers need to be gased they give the worst advice their is on earth

and im stuck with them in this
>>2633308
other coins dont have people dumping new coins won in lottery

[Anonymous No.2633328]

>>2632208
how many coins do i need to invest to participate tho?

[Anonymous No.2633365]

>>2633316
sure it's diffrent from your everyday PnD but not realy tho
you drop your stacks if it gets high, it's common behaviour

if you see something is getting pumped you have time to react to the situation and might make a profit if you can read the signs

[Anonymous No.2633372]

if i see a hodl nigger in real life im lynching him


THIS DROP IS NOT NORMAL

other coins didnt drop this far down

btc isnt even done dropping either

nmr going to 50k

[Anonymous No.2633389]

i want to see the stupid niggers who told me to keep holding the coins when i said i would sell off at 320k

[Anonymous No.2633417]

going down 140k

[Anonymous No.2633432]

>>2633417
sell then. what will you buy?

[Anonymous No.2633443]

>>2633432
BUY BACK WHEN ITS DONE DIPPING YOU STUPID NIGGER

[Anonymous No.2633451]

whale is controlling the price.
I know since it reached bottom@ 60K sats.

[Anonymous No.2633462]

>>2633443
why by back if you think it's a shitcoin?

[Anonymous No.2633488]

do you know why those meme lines work

ITS BECAUSE THATS THE SIGNALS WHALES USE TO DO THEIR BUSINESS

I HAD THIS GRAPH DONE EARLY MORNING

IT FOLLOWED IT TO A T

H>>2633462
KILL YOURSELF

[Anonymous No.2633507]

Buy now or regret this day rest of your life

[Anonymous No.2633530]

>>2633488
>KILL YOURSELF
>>2633290
>emotionally attached hodl nigger
>emotionally

sorry, you won't make it anon.

[Anonymous No.2633544]

>>2633530
>being so emotionally attached to a coin that you absolutely refuse to sell the peaks to buy the dips

thats how emotional you are, you deluded nigger

[Anonymous No.2633553]

>>2633544
just bought another bag.
feels comfy

[Anonymous No.2633555]

>>2633507
and i say this guy is right

i held on these coins since 230k for no reason whatsoever, its missed gains

[Anonymous No.2633584]

>>2633553
kill yourself faggot

[Anonymous No.2633588]

I set a buy order last night at .02 and went to bed. It filled at .019999. How fucked am I?

[Anonymous No.2633624]

>>2633588
from there i dont know, but those lines were right since this morning

[Anonymous No.2633683]

>>2633588

Your bag will only be 2-3x heavier in a week. Or it won't and you'll be on your way to Lamboland.

You could probably get out this morning at .018 or maybe .019 if you're weak handed. Downward trend hasn't settled so we're not sure where this is going to end up.

I'm glad I sold at .03927 yesterday...

[Anonymous No.2633990]

holy shit im glad i sold my bags at .028...what a disaster.

[Anonymous No.2634003]

NMR Bagholders general https://discord.gg/jPqH57

[Anonymous No.2634040]

my bags are so heavy right now desu, buying and sending more btc over to get more. It's like a shot of heroin straight to the tip of my dick. Just calculating how much 100 NMR will be worth in 6 months, and how many exotic beachfront properties I am going to buy.

[Anonymous No.2634091]

If now is not a great time to ride the dip, I don't know what is.

[Anonymous No.2634251]

>>2630611
>Bought at 0.24
>Sold at 0.60

You guys are behind the game. STUPID KEKS

L M F A O at your life

[Anonymous No.2634278]

>>2633291
NMR is made for stocks not crypto. And it would be very obvious that it would crash after all that hype and normies flooding in.

[Anonymous No.2634301]

>>2633308
Why do you keep talking shit if you have just arrived tard?

Other coins are dead or have been dead for ages. No development, no devs, nothing.

So they are essentially worthless.

This coin is a working product so it has a future.

Who is dense now faggot

[Anonymous No.2634308]

>>2634040
>my bags are so heavy right now desu, buying and sending more btc over to get more. It's like a shot of heroin straight to the tip of my dick. Just calculating how much 100 NMR will be worth in 6 months, and how many exotic beachfront properties I am going to buy.

lmao
0
you retard

[Anonymous No.2634318]

>>2633451
Holy shit kek. I knew something was fishy.

[Anonymous No.2634384]

bought 1 at 015 feels good

[Anonymous No.2634402]

>>2634040
kys

[Anonymous No.2634403]

>>2634301
xD every coin on Bittrex is dead

sure buddy, you might wanna buy some bitbeans heard the rise to the moonz today

[Anonymous No.2634418]

>>2634384
well timed but why only 1?

[Anonymous No.2634467]

>>2634418
day trading with ANT right now and i didn't knew if it goes down further, don't know anything about this coin except for

>AI something something
>betting on Stock prices

wish i had just threw everything at it, would have made a bit more

[Anonymous No.2634537]

hmm 200?

[Anonymous No.2634621]

>>2634403
I don't want any shitbeans. They have no too little use. Perhaps scamming newfags with them is usefull?

[Anonymous No.2634633]

bought 10 at 225k and sold at 188k to invest in ANS. Fuck this shitcoin. Im sticking to the chinks

[Anonymous No.2634741]

>>2634621
might i dunno bought some and sold em an hour later for 10% gain never looked back at it again

[Anonymous No.2634780]

hmm I wonder why this project is the target of coordinated FUD....? Why would that happen?

It's..... it's almost like a small group of individuals are driving the price as low as they possibly can..... but why??? hmmm it's almost like these people want to buy more before a pump.... but... that's UNHEARD OF!! WTF!@

[Anonymous No.2634835]

I just bought a few of these half an hour ago.

looks like the dip has dupped.

this could be a good coin very soon. NMR are destroyed forever so the total number is 2 million and constantly shrinking.

[Anonymous No.2634838]

lol glad my threads are still in use, althought this coin is pretty much dead for now

bought at .03 on the last pump it had, should've sold at .039 and call it a day but greed took over me having missed a nice pump the night before for 15 stupid minutes I didn't stay awake, so bag locked for weeks now

welp

[Anonymous No.2634851]

>>2634835
>21 million

[Anonymous No.2634881]

So if NMR's A.I. performs well, how would that trickle into the NMR tokens gaining value?

[Anonymous No.2634929]

>>2634881
have a read.
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/ai-hedge-fund-created-new-currency-make-wall-street-work-like-open-source/

[Anonymous No.2635126]

>>2634835
>mfw aiming to be the one holding the last coin

[Anonymous No.2635145]

>>2635126
you are not alone

[Anonymous No.2635281]

>>2633290
>DUDE I KNOW RIGHT?!

Just quick, send it all to me, it's just gonna bring you pain. You are too dumb for this game.

The FUDers, they never change. Time goes by. Dips come and go but you guys, you stay exactly as fucking brain dead as you were on day 1

[Anonymous No.2635303]

>>2635281
Jesus Christ fucking THIS
summerfags join a Pajeet&Dump group FFS

[Anonymous No.2635378]

>>2635281
>>2635303
you two are the most retarded individuals on the crypto market

WHY WOULD YOU NOT SELL THE PEAKS TO BUY THE DIPS HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.2635419]

OH LOOK ITS GOING DOWN AGAIN

GEE I WONDER WHAT TIME IT IS

OH ITS BUY BACK TIME AFTER HAVING SOLD THE PEAK


BUT NO


HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDLLLLLLLLLLL XD

[Anonymous No.2635537]

>>2630611
The whales are the scientist who get paid for their AI algorithm in mostly Bitcoin and some Numeraire...in September that changes and they get paid in Numeraire/ETH exclusively. There's a limited supply of coins and many are burned any time the scientists algorithm fails to perform well. For me this is a mid term hold.

[Anonymous No.2635691]

top biz retards bottom human being

[Anonymous No.2635716]

oh fuck, this coin is so retarded

[Anonymous No.2635756]

>>2635716
every single other coin already in the green this ome keeps dippingq

[Anonymous No.2636059]

>>2635378
>implying I didn't
fuck off pajeet

[Anonymous No.2636072]

>>2636059
you stupid retard this is what im talking about

[Anonymous No.2636091]

>>2635691

>timing the market

And here you are

[Anonymous No.2636099]

Where are the coins even coming from? The developers are just dumping on everyone. Welcome to the new ICOs

[Anonymous No.2636113]

>>2636072
that time of the month?
Jesus Christ how fucking new are you really?
you were crying in the thread all fucking day yesterday too.
grow some fucking balls Jennifer.

I almost hopes this goes to zero just for you to get rekd

[Anonymous No.2636120]

>>2636091
i timed the market successfully multiple times thank you retard

[Anonymous No.2636133]

>>2636113
youre the retard saying "hold" even though there are obvious sell and buy back opportunities

you should all go fuck your mothers and die

[Anonymous No.2636139]

>>2636113
Fan-fuckin-tastic

[Anonymous No.2636158]

This is a free group forever. Feel free to join.

https://t.me/interstellarpump

[Anonymous No.2636161]

>>2636133
what bags are you holding anon? what losses did you take? just so we can laugh too

>i-i timed the market successfully multiple times t-thank you retard!

fucking lmao

[Anonymous No.2636163]

>>2636133
>>2636139
there's that fag talk we talked about

[Anonymous No.2636165]

>>2636099
lol this.

How mayn ICOs have there been in the last few weeks were the devs make 100-150milion and then the coin drops like 90% in value over the next few week

>bancor, bat, nmr etc etc etc.

[Anonymous No.2636181]

>>2636161
i was about to earn 1 extra bitcoin on ans, but i went napping 10 minute and waking up i saw the chink markets went into a dip so i missed that

then i went into nmr and was about to earn a bitcoin again but because internet cut out i couldnt catch the peak

now here i am
>>2636163
go kill yourself useless retard

[Anonymous No.2636198]

>>2636181
will do jennifer

[Anonymous No.2636206]

>>2636198
get raped by niggers

[Anonymous No.2636214]

>>2636206
kek'd
you know all about that Jennifer

[Anonymous No.2636236]

>>2636099
It's not the debts. Tournaments are already being ran. 20k to 49k NMR were distributed over the past week to the winners. They are dumping for cash. One AI won 11k by itself.

[Anonymous No.2636242]

>>2636214
your mom does yes

[Anonymous No.2636256]

>>2636242
joke on you Jenny

[Anonymous No.2636272]

Just bought 5BTC worth. What even is this coin?

[Anonymous No.2636324]

>>2636158

Indian scammer.

[Anonymous No.2636357]

>Mooning atm.
>He didn't buy the dip.

[Anonymous No.2636364]

>>2636242
sell the peak Jenifer
winkey face

[Anonymous No.2636388]

>>2636357
>looked at it a minute ago
>fuck i should buy more and average down...
>it moons before i can
FUCK
I NEED TO KEEP DRY POWDER FOR JUST THIS REASON

[Anonymous No.2636417]

>>2636357
Here comes the moon

[Anonymous No.2636430]

>>2636364
kill yourself

just kill yourself

youre such a retard it hutrs

[Anonymous No.2636446]

>>2636430
you first Jenny you clueless fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.2636452]

>>2636357
>waiting for transfer
>starts mooning
>fuck the transfer sell off my antshares gains to buy
AAAAAA DONT FALL NOW

[Anonymous No.2636463]

>>2636430
>hutrs

please sell already

[Anonymous No.2636472]

>>2636463
>>2636446

havent seen someone as butthurt as you anon

[Anonymous No.2636488]

>>2636472
Even considering selling now..... Nopes

[Anonymous No.2636516]

>>2636488
the peak, yes

[Anonymous No.2636538]

>>2636516
you seem to have your buys and sells mixed up m8ey

[Anonymous No.2636552]

>>2636165
>bat
up 450% since ICO

>nmr
not an ICO

>bancor
not below ICO price in ETH
is about 30% below ICO price in USD

where did you get this info from dumbass?

[Anonymous No.2636613]

Holding

[Anonymous No.2636616]

>>2636516
you still HODLing jenny?

[Anonymous No.2636639]

>>2636616
dont worry, after a few days you will understand what long and short means, how to do it, and day trading

[Anonymous No.2636682]

>>2636639
then tell me about day trading Jenny.
how do I do it?
I will give you 100 NMR if you tell me your ways.

[Anonymous No.2636693]

>>2636682
sell the peaks then buy the dips

0x544aa602001d8836cace1ca08d22befcb2eb6432

[Anonymous No.2636696]

Jesus Christ guys, keep your shit together.

[Anonymous No.2636712]

>>2636696
tell that to the retarded queer emotionally attached to his shitcoin

[Anonymous No.2636715]

>>2636696
I don't care if he is baiting
it's fun. try it

also
>>2636693
SENT

[Anonymous No.2636722]

>>2634402

I just made $4,500 while I was eating mac and cheese and smoking a bowl. plz kys no-numer

[Anonymous No.2636725]

>>2636715
>xD i was trolling all along anon !!

[Anonymous No.2636732]

Can someone explain to me what the purpose of this currency is when they hand out payouts regardless of staking NMR on their predictions?

[Anonymous No.2636738]

>>2633683
That's what I bought in at. Sold at just below the ATH, .
0.065.. very first cryptogain.

Dumped it all in a (maybe) shitcoin though so I'm hodling this bag til things turn up a bit. I think I'll make 2x by the end of the week or whenever the recovery happens to be.

[Anonymous No.2636767]

>>2636732
it serves as a lifeboat for after Numerai becomes one of the largest hedgefunds in the world and the tax jew tries to shut it down

[Anonymous No.2636918]

>>2636732
Lets explain it again.........

1. Scientists needs tokens to participate

2. If a scientist makes a wrong prediction he looses his tokens

3. The more tokens you put forward the bigger the reward when you get it right. (but also the more risk)

So why tokens HURR DUR?

1. Without tokens you CAN NOT PARTICIPATE. (NO)

2. Tokens can also be sold since in addition to getting some ether you also get some more Numer.ai

3. As the the hedgefund makes more money more scientist will flood requiring more tokens.

[Anonymous No.2636945]

>>2636918
So what in it for us????

We pay the scientist for their work buy buying up said tokens in exchange we charge whatever we want for new tokens.

We make the implicit promise we will buy the tokens and in an implicit agreement the coins will rise due to scarcity so this can be seen as investment.

So yes the scientist, but as more people come in we reap the benefits from paying the scientists.

[Anonymous No.2637048]

>>2636945
>>2636918
nice breakdown.
what about the part where the NMR staked on the predictions that fail are burned.
making this coin deflationary

[Anonymous No.2637119]

>>2637048
only thing i wonder:
i hear they give out NMR if you win from staking
do they give out more NMR than what would be staked on average?

[Anonymous No.2637166]

>>2637119
the NMR is given back
plus a BTC payout afaik

[Anonymous No.2637187]

Bought at .029
One hour later..... .055

Damn I got rich damn Im baller damn Im good damn finna get rich even more

All in .065

What now (gun or knife)?

[Anonymous No.2637191]

>>2637119
see
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/ai-hedge-fund-created-new-currency-make-wall-street-work-like-open-source/

[Anonymous No.2637200]

>>2637166
i mean, it's given back if they do good
it's "destroyed" if they fug up
unless i misunderstood, and they just give back from the NMR pool what people staked and lost

[Anonymous No.2637274]

>>2637200
NMR is needed for staking.
but NMR is destroyed by bad prediction models.
less NMR means the price increases.
again afaik

[Anonymous No.2637456]

these threads are comfy.

[Anonymous No.2637557]

looking at the numerai ranking, there are 73 people who have made over 50K off of this data science work. Damn. Maybe throwing some data science at this shit, would be more profitable that dicking around with day trading.

[Anonymous No.2637572]

https://numer.ai/leaderboard

[Anonymous No.2637581]

>>2637274
Exactly, now I would say more people are more wrong then right when making predictions about the stock market, keeping up the high scarcity of the coin.

Technically Numer.ai could fuck us up by making a shitton of tokens and giving them out for free.

However...

This would make investors loose trust in the token, make them not invest and as an indrect consequence...

Scientists will get less money since their NMR tokens cant be sold for high value.

Which will make it less attractive for scientist to peg in.

Now ask yourself the questions what you would do if you where numer.ai?

[Anonymous No.2637615]

Lul wut, pic related

>>2637557
Yes the make a lot of money by trying to predict something very complex such as the stock market.

Keep in mind if you get it wrong you get:

- No payout
- Loose your NMR

[Anonymous No.2637673]

>>2637581
>Now ask yourself the questions what you would do if you where numer.ai?
I dunno, give incentives?
look anon you don't need to ask that question to me.
where's Jenny gone? she was rad with her panics.

[Anonymous No.2637742]

>>2637615
mental.
but what is it??

[Anonymous No.2637844]

>>2637673
The fuck is Jenny?

More money from scientists who want in are your reward. What else do you want?

[Anonymous No.2637929]

>>2637844
>The fuck is Jenny?
kek
some bagholder with too many emotions read the thread.
I researched as much as I could find on this coin.
This is a easy long term hold. and it feels comfy. six months this dip will look like a ripple

[Anonymous No.2637956]

mortgaged house, went all in to NMR for $50k. gibs me your bags boys. we're goign to the moon

[Anonymous No.2637980]

> not buying BAT at all time low
> not realizing BAT is backed by inventor of javascript
> staying poor

[Anonymous No.2637992]

>>2637980
Not realizing supply is too high

[Anonymous No.2638217]

>>2637956

Do you want to buy my bags? I bought 15 NMR's at .065

I'll give it to you at a discount! SUPER SPECIAL DESU PRICE .06

[Anonymous No.2638296]

https://www.raconteur.net/technology/the-rise-of-ai-and-algorithms-in-the-financial-services-sector

>“I think it’s really untenable to think that, long term, humans will be better than AIs at predicting the future of an equity in 100-dimensional feature space,”
>100-dimensional feature space
>100-dimensions

[Anonymous No.2638344]

>>2638296
He way he's referring to dimensions is actually very common in statistical analysis.

[Anonymous No.2638379]

>>2638344
I know anon I just was reading that and thought some one might get a kick out of it.
although it's an old article the coin was just released. it does sound promising.

[Anonymous No.2638398]

>>2637992
>1.2 million is a high supply

My sides

[Anonymous No.2639220]

>>2634851
That's the max tard. Only 1.2million are in circulation ATM

[Anonymous No.2639237]

>>2635419
Enjoy getting burned eventually bro.

[Anonymous No.2639361]

>>2639237
emotional day trading must fucking suck.

[Anonymous No.2639462]

>>2636693
How to know exactly where's the peak and dip?

[Anonymous No.2639540]

>>2636242
now you can shut your fuckin mouth jenny. even my shoes seen less dirt than your fuckin knees jenny and i ran across the country.

[Anonymous No.2639713]

>>2639361
I don't day trade. Because I know there is a big risk one time you will fuck up big and loose a shitton of money. I much rather wait.

[Anonymous No.2639734]

>>2639713
If anything crypto is super volatile. Shit can literally drop 10000 sats in 5 seconds. I seen it happen once. Holy shit that was crazy. That's why you don't fucking day trade in a super volatile market.

[Anonymous No.2639761]

>>2639713
I learned that on XRP on the big run up.
but yeah I was talking about Jenny. she was ear-raping anybody that likes to just hodl.

[Anonymous No.2639775]

>>2639540
40keks.jpg

[Anonymous No.2639845]

okay /biz/... I bought into NMR at .05 with all of my savings. Yes it was completely retarded to do but I bought into the FOMO at the time. how fucked am I?

[Anonymous No.2639884]

>>2639845
Might take a month or three but it will be back up there for you to recoup. The algo scientist geeks are the ones that get a fairly large chunk of Numeraire and I think seeing how high this thing pumped will be plenty motivation for them to drive the price back up.

[Anonymous No.2639910]

>>2639845
Also they will be getting paid almost exclusively in NMR and ETH in September. Whereas prior to the release it was BTC, fiat, and NMR (which one of the tournament scientists was surprised to find out he was a few thousand richer after this thing went live).

[Anonymous No.2639938]

>>2639884
>>2639910
theyll probably do it every month for their pay check. so we just need a heads up at the time.

[Anonymous No.2639946]

>>2639884
>>2639910
thank you... if nothing else I feel better knowing that I have a chance of getting my money back.