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How many patents are based on your bags Anon?

Yeah I see...

>> No.26299097

>>26299065
This list is insane. Also, most partners filed their most recent patent end of 2020 or even January 2021. Things are in full action now

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>>26299097
This doesn't even include the academic publications. Here an IEEE paper published today https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.03840

>> No.26299331

lol iota is a common word in enlgish ranjeet

>> No.26299356

token has no use case & will never pump

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>>26299331
Cognitive dissonance is strong with this one

>> No.26299387

IOTA is some shitty Berlin hipster startup. And shit doesn't work.

>> No.26299488

>>26299356
What is data marketplace
What is IOTA access
What are smart contracts
What are oracles
What is mana
What is regular retail

How many uses does your bag have?

>> No.26299567

>>26299065
how many patents do BSV have?

>> No.26299602

>>26299356
>There will be a worldwide market for four computers maximum
That's you, 50 years ago

>> No.26299624

Show us some of the patents dipshit

>> No.26299692

>>26299624
Full list on https://iotaarchive.com/patents

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>>26299602
Kek

>> No.26300033

>>26299331
This. What an embarrassing thread. There was a 5% chance I'd invest in IOTA, now it's 0%, thanks OP.

>> No.26300094

>>26299567
Zero that are valid. Craig Wright has to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto in order to overcome prior-art problems, and he's an obvious fraud.

I do U.S. patent drafting and prosecution for a living, BTW.

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>>26300033
IOTA is only for people who can read (<1% of this board). This thread is not aimed at you. I will later post a thread based on funny pictures and tits, then you will buy.

>> No.26300170

why has iota never been worth anything if they have all these great partnerships

>> No.26300207

>>26299567
>>26300094
BSV is a benchmark for me to test market maturity. As long as it is in top 50 we are still in meme-phase. However we recently at least left scam-phase by BSV dropping out of top 10

>> No.26300210

>>26300170
NDA

>> No.26300269 [DELETED] 

>>26299264
>>>26299097
>This doesn't even include the academic publications. Here an IEEE paper published today https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.03840
Wow, what an utter failure on your part to bother to read it. The paper is about IOT, and details a system that is DIFFERENT FROM IOTA.

The only place that IOTA is mentioned is at the bottom of page 2 of the PDF:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.03840.pdf

is the ONLY mention of IOTA. The
References 21 and 22 in the table, where the table discusses how the approach used in this paper is different from existing (e.g., IOTA) systems.

It took me longer to type this than it did to glance at the paper and recognize this little problem of yours. If that's the best you can come up with, I guess you're fucked, Sanjeev.

>> No.26300307 [DELETED] 

>>26299097
>This doesn't even include the academic publications. Here an IEEE paper published today https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.03840
Wow, what an utter failure on your part to bother to read it. The paper is about IOT, and details a system that is DIFFERENT FROM IOTA.

The only place that IOTA is mentioned is at the bottom of page 2 of the PDF:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.03840.pdf

is the ONLY mention of IOTA. The
References 21 and 22 in the table, where the table discusses how the approach used in this paper is different from existing (e.g., IOTA) systems.

It took me longer to type this than it did to glance at the paper and recognize this little problem of yours. If that's the best you can come up with, I guess you're fucked, Sanjeev.

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>>26300170
Because as a regulated German non-profit foundation they cannot spend money on market-making like XRP etc (Washtrading, fake volumes, paying TikTok influences and opinion pieces in magazines). Instead they published peer-reviewed research papers, changed protocol according to industry demand and only now start to have finished product.

Watch out for Chrysalis update Q1 and coordizide Q3

>> No.26300369

>>26299264
>This doesn't even include the academic publications. Here an IEEE paper published today https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.03840
Wow, what an utter failure on your part to bother to read it. The paper is about IOT, and details a system that is DIFFERENT FROM IOTA.

The only place that IOTA is mentioned is at the bottom of page 2 of the PDF:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.03840.pdf

is the ONLY mention of IOTA. The
References 21 and 22 in the table, where the table discusses how the approach used in this paper is different from existing (e.g., IOTA) systems.

It took me longer to type this than it did to glance at the paper and recognize this little problem of yours. If that's the best you can come up with, I guess you're fucked, Sanjeev.

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>>26300307
>>26300369
Jimmies rustled

>> No.26300518

How many inorganic shill threads were posted about IOTA on here by your little homosexual meetup discord group? All of them? Oh...

>> No.26300561

>>26300170
IOTA protocol is not even finalized yet. Network can be used for several usecases, but big utility and performance come only with Chrysalis update and complete decentralization only EOY. So it's not worth much because it's not finished

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>>26300518
Most new IOTA threads are about news, tech progress and adoption, include even sources. Quality way to high for this board.

>> No.26300961

>>26300903
Shut the fuck up and post your shit in your cointainment subreddit. Nobody gives a fuck about it here. You're like a nigger trying to sit at the white mans table.

>> No.26301008

>>26300518
They are always so cringey and painfully obvious. Hope IOTA continues to fail and be irrelevant.

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>>26301008
If not 100% of shill threads on this board are obvious to you please kys

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>>26299065
try harder

>> No.26301472

Facts will overcome mad /biz tards. Those who listen to what is brewing will profit. Others will FOMO in later

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>>26301468
Check out the original patents on www.iotaarchive.com. Granted, a "mentioning" doesnt mean every patents is all about IOTA tech. Some just mention it on the side, as a comparisson. Many patents however describe technologies build on IOTA tech.

>> No.26301912

>>26299356
I really don't mind when people try to fud IOTA when it's at least sensible critisism. But this is just stupid.

>> No.26302070

>>26299065
Post link to list.

>> No.26302249

>>26302070
www.iotaarchives.com

They list not only patents, but also have nice charts and graphics about IOTA adoption

>> No.26302257

>>26301716
>Make a token called THE
>Search for patents
>Every patent in the world mentions it
>How many patents are based on your bags Anon? Yeah I see...

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>>26302249
https://www.iotaarchive.com/

typo

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>>26302257
Critical thinking is good. Now check out the patents to confirm or dismiss your hypothesis.

>> No.26302349

>>26299356
The base layer of iota will always be feeless. However there are tons of second layer use cases which give the token value, just like paying for smart contracts, accessing permanodes for data requests, or issuing colored coins (the erc20 equivalent on the tangle with the difference that colored coins can't be created out of thin air, but that iota tokens have to be recolored. - scarcity)
Also, holding tokens indirectly grant you preferred access to complete your transaction in times when network capacity is scarce. The more tokens you own, the higher you are on the prio list. Where on eth you have to pay 40usd to send a tx when the network is busy, iota will still be feeless for you if you are holding tokens. Think of holding tokens as a VIP ticket to the tangles bandwidth.

Iota is not ready het and won't likely be until 2022, but after its complete, it will be a top 5-10 coin again. Top3 over the next 5 years.

>> No.26302399

>>26302348
I'll do that anon

>> No.26302484

>>26302349
Also, fk iotas founders and leadership team. Also fk these mindless shills spamming their discord and this board. Iota is still shit at this point and linking to scientific publications where the only mention of iota is "and other forms of DLT designs like iotas DAG" just looks ain't moronic and makes me want to punch you.
It's shit now on mainnet but the specs and progress to change that into a unicorn are there. Just don't pretend iota is better than every other dlt atm cuz it's far from that.

>> No.26303022

>>26302484
CFB and Sonstebo are already out of IOTA foundation. It's a 120+ employee non-profit organization that stands on their own feet

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Taste of the future

>> No.26303380

>>26303022
Doesn't matter. The rest of the team is also very arrogant and toxic.

IOTA, the Scientology coin.

>> No.26303424

>>26303022
Fuck Dom, fuck Navin. Same schizo dictatorship with different faces.
Also, as honorable mention, fuck Antonio. Even though he's an IF bottom dweller, he is just insufferable.

>> No.26303520

I wonder how long it'd gonna take until their schizos in #official notice this thread and start blaming spec2 again for being toxic. Too bad they can't censor /biz/ as they censor their own social media channels

>> No.26303969

>>26303424
>>26303520
Shut up you gimp

>> No.26304339

>>26303424
Shut your filthy mouth aboose

>> No.26304421

IOTA is now at bitcoin 2011 when bizraelis called it buttcoin
So much seething

See you at €50 per nIOTA

>> No.26304464

>>26304421
It's painfully obvious how big IOTA will be, it's resistance levels are solid iron and we are going to be screeching through to ATH by Chrysallis

>> No.26304599

>>26304421
Yeah and back then people were calling btc a scam because they lost some funds at MtGox hack. They didnt even realize the network itself was never hacked. Its almost spooky how similar the situation is with IOTA right now

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26304604

Bought this shit whilst it was in the top 10 (or even maybe top 5) alongside with NEO.

Those bags are driving me crazy.

The Neo bags at least are giving me some GAS. But this shit is useless.

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>>26304464
I'm not sure about ATH after Chrysalis, since the market is still speculation and needs time to get adoption based. However Chrysalis + Coordizide will cancel literally all FUD you see here and convince speculators

>> No.26304802

>>26304707
I might be a little too optimistic with that, but coordicide will be $10 without a sweat.
Half my bag will be sold around there and the rest is being held throughout the building of the machine to machine economy.

>> No.26304991

>>26303969
fucking discord troll

>> No.26305008

>>26304707
>Chrysalis + Coordizide
What are the deadlines for each?

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>> No.26305342

Q1 2021 for chrysalis
H1 2022 for coordicide.

Anyone claiming coordicide will be released earlier mist have slept since 2017 cuz nothing so far was released even remotely close to their ETAs

>> No.26305396

>>26304991
Eat my hole raj, i don't use discord because i'm not a tranny, i know decent tech when i see it.

>> No.26305462

In terms of meme market cap, how hight IOTA can be after chrysalis and coordicide?

>> No.26305620

>>26305008
Chrysalis Q1 (already in external audits)
Scalable smart contracts Q2 (pre-alpha released)
Colored coins Q2 (can already be used in testnet)
Coordizide Q3 (coordinator-free testnet public, although MANA not yet implemented)

>>26305342
Yeah you could estimate things for Coordizide might take longer, but who knows. Mana gets implemented into testnet soon, then a complete Coordizide solution is live. There will be lots of tweaking, paid bughunting and external audits, but this year is definitely feasible

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26305638

o hai

>> No.26305734

>>26305462
Chrysalis will enable more exchanges and will lead to more adoption on mainnet. IOTA meme-power will rise because they delivered something huge and working.

Coordizide will silence the FUDDERS you see around here.

So my guess is:
Chrysalis top 20
Coordizide top 10

>> No.26305766

>>26305620
>Yeah you could estimate things for Coordizide might take longer, but who knows. Mana gets implemented into testnet soon, then a complete Coordizide solution is live. There will be lots of tweaking, paid bughunting and external audits, but this year is definitely feasible
They haven't even specced out mana yet. "It's all in Hans head" is not a viable blueprint. And a "testnet without mana", coordicide's most essential diffentiaor, its a joke to call something like this as "delivered"

>> No.26305892

One more question to all the iota shillers:

When was the last time you bought a bag of IOTA? Or are you just trying to sold your bags back from 2017?

>> No.26305953

>>26302349

> pay for node to get access to the network

> pay for mana to be able to send transactions

> pay for tokens to lock up in dust protection

> pay for CPU time for PoW

feeless

>> No.26305963

>>26305766
Acording to Discord mana will be implemented soonTM (in few weeks). If it gets delivered and works on testnet I see Coordizie Q3 (maybe Q4) as very likely. As long as its not delivered on testnet however I cannot argue with you

>> No.26306030

>>26305892
I'm buying monthly and stocked up massive during the 0.10$ range in March. Just because I'm shittalking the current state of the protocol and the incompetent leadership team doesn't mean I'm not seeing the mid-term massive ROI potential

>> No.26306046

>>26305892
I´m buying the dip since 3 years, last time just a few weeks ago. I´m closely following the developments and believe it will rise big (I´m actually in the greens now, although "only" 20-30%. However try that with most stocks. My gold is also boring, only lying around.

>> No.26306189

>>26305953
like saying you need a computer or smartphone to send/receive bitcoin. (ofc leaving out fees)

utter retard. pls get laid

>> No.26306193

>>26305953
Did you read what I typed? Fundamental protocol is feeless, with the option to purchase premium features like the ones I mentioned. Think of it as one of these mobile games like clash of clans. It's free to play but if you want to speed up the built time for your building, you can pay for a shortcut.

>> No.26306194

>>26300135
that's how /biz/ works. 99% total retards that don't even know what they are trading.

>> No.26306269

>>26305953
A node doesn't pay for access, it WORKS for access by validating value transactions. Only if not enough users use your node for their transactions + the network is congested + you cannot switch shards + you need a certain through right now

Then you can consider paying people for sending value transactions through your node (=pledging mana).

I agree that if that situation becomes the norm because the network is always fully congested, IOTA wouldn't feel fully feeless anymore

>> No.26306512

Just don't probe too much into their official story how everything will magically work out soonTM, if you don't want to see the amount of ductape they use to piece all these messy components together

>> No.26306804

>>26306189

> like saying you need a computer or smartphone to send/receive bitcoin. (ofc leaving out fees)

well, you obviously need a computer or smartphone for IOTA too, in addition to all the above.

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>>26306804
Do you at least acknowledge that paying for Mana will only be a thing IF the network is permanently congested and sharding doesnt solve the problem?

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>>26306194
True

>> No.26308068

I want to know what you think the price ceiling is. Specifiers: if adopted as the global standard for the M2M economy, micropayments, and reimbursable electricity (via Siemens). The original quote was "we are a trillion dollar market or we are nothing." That would put one mIOTA around 400 dollars. The adoption I mentioned above would go beyond a trillion dollar marketcap. Everyone in Iota is too smart to get their hopes up, but for fucks sake, give me a range.

>> No.26308201

>>26306854

Ok so if you think you can slap sharding to an existing network, you are naive as fuck. This never works. It rarely ever works in permissioned systems (look at sharding solutions for MySQL for example). It *never* works in permissionless systems, unless the system is built for it from the ground up (e.g. NEAR). Don't be dumb. Sharding isn't coming to IOTA.

If IOTA was cheaper to use than AWS, everyone would be using IOTA until it isn't anymore. So the network will be congested, instantly.

Just don't be stupid. This whole feeless thing makes absolutely no sense from an economic & engineering perspective.

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>>26299602
based.

>> No.26308347

>>26308068
The thing is, for this to happen there must be years of best-case scenarios, mostly:
>Tech is perfect (fast, feeless, secure, scalable, decentralized)
>Policies not only allow but WANT permissionless DLT. Killer policy would be certain data MUST be stored on permissionless DLT, aka tangle
>No competitor emerges that wins the race (nothing on the radar yet, but since all tech is open it can always happen)

400$ / MIOTA is possible in this scenario. However, it feels like saying Btc will reach 40000$ when it was around 40$ for years now. It sounded ridiculous, yet it still happened.

>> No.26308509

>>26300323
Hbar is even better then it’s though

>> No.26308587

>>26308068
Lol. Stay within your average lifespan. You're painting pictures your grandkid might experience during its retirement age.
Iota won't be outperforming any cryoto in the next 2 years or permissioned alternative (I.e. aws) in the next 5 years.
"Adoption", or even a first push into that direction won't be noticeable for the next 10 years. If you're here to make a quick buck, you should have sold in 2017 and do something else with your money. Price won't significsbtly move for years to come. Be happy if you see 1$ this year.

>> No.26308715

>>26308201
I´m am not deep enough into the tech to evaluate the concepts myself. I can only say that Dom said data-sharding is already far advanced and might already be part of Coordizide (however we will have to see what is meant by that).

Hans said the research department already has several proposal for sharding solutions (including his liquid sharding). This will not convince people who say "its not possible" upfront, but lets see what they come up with.

If IOTA will be the cheapest solution for data-anchoring yes the whole respective economy will switch to it. However, if this means the network is always congested depends on scalability and if private tangles get set up (which should then be able to communicate to other tangles/shards)

>> No.26308807

>>26308587
Disagree, but thanks for the reply. We are rapidly moving toward a global standard for a new economic system. The fourth industrial revolution. It's clear that Iota is among a handful of coins being used by multiple countries and multinational entities to build that model. It's accelerating, and is not going to take three generations to get here. That's just not the boat we're in.

>>26308347
I think that's the direction we're headed, and while it may take (a few) years to get there, the price won't stagnate while it does.

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>>26308587
Adoption of the data-transaction feature has already started, adoption of the token depends highly on policies.

However, if IOTA delivers this year most FUD will be silenced and speculator value alone might push back to ATH (which is x10 from now).

Also, when IOTA allows for DeFi, but much cheaper than ETH, all this market will switch eventually too (atm it is literally unuseable)

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>>26300135
needs rework. done.

>> No.26309393

>>26309154
N1 m8

>> No.26309400

>>26308928
>Reddit ass meme
Sell signal

>> No.26309726

>>26308587
Hilarious, IOTA will reach a 30 billion market cap ($10) on hype alone after coordicide.
If the machine to machine economy is estimated to be a 40 trillion dollar economy in the next 30 years then a trillion within the next 10 years is extrememly possible for the defacto data and value transfer network.
Rubbish fud disguised as though you understand the IOTA adoption process.
Also these estimates don't even take into account the possible adoption from the emerging synthetic economy which is going to be the first quadrillion dollar economy to exist.

>> No.26309775

imagine to purchase iota

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>>26309775
Thanks for reminding me, just bought today's dip