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[Anonymous No.25973340]

>My job is hard

[Anonymous No.25973412]

>>25973340
>the average programmer
I'm not an average progammer. I'm top 1% talent.

[Anonymous No.25973491]

>everyone is a programmer
Why does /g/ always assume this?

[Anonymous No.25973524]

>>25973491
Anyone who is smart is because it's the highest pay for the least amount of work

[Anonymous No.25973547]

>>25973340
10 lines of productive code per day, more like. The rest is probably just garbage they shave off.

[Anonymous No.25973564]

thought I was on /g/
fuck you op
sage

[Anonymous No.25973675]

I'm not even a programmer, but more lines isn't the same as better work. Don't be retarded.

[Anonymous No.25973796]

>>25973340
I just finished my 9 hour work day as a programmer, and I wanted to count how many lines of code I put out. But its kind of hard, since I just defined a few new lists of IDs, and added them to a few IF clauses. Technically 3 new lines, and 11 edited lines. I also created a new column in the database, which I did through the graphic interface, but should be considered 1 line of SQL code I think.

[Anonymous No.25973887]

My mate in software development/it told that sometimes he spends 2 weeks just reading/staring at error reports and various (fatal) errors and being able to pinpoint the problem where they stem from.

He said that it takes a special mind/attitude to stare at those errors for weeks at a time and not coming up with any solutions and going home after 10 hours of staring at those errors and having not made any progress

Sounded kinda soul crushing to me

[Anonymous No.25973897]

>>25973340
When you're working on complex software, behind those 10 lines stand hours of work. If you didn't put in the hours, these lines might as well be comments.
>write 1 line
>compile
>800 new errors detected

[Anonymous No.25973932]

>>25973524
Maybe in India it is.

[Anonymous No.25973944]

>>25973897
>>25973887
Exactly this. Some people need to cope with it. I guess I'm lucky enough I see it as 'at least I have something to do'. I'm not the 'get up every 15 minutes to grab a coffee' type.
I wonder what other's attitude is.

[Anonymous No.25973988]

>>25973340
>average programmers
Maybe the pajeet code monkeys who poo out terrible work

[Anonymous No.25974022]

>>25973340
it's more like 100 lines for me and my team. altho we have a dude that is probably around 10.

[Anonymous No.25974083]

>>25973412
>tfw top 1% but sandbagging to act like bottom 20% so I can shitpost all day

[Anonymous No.25974141]

>>25973796
I slept through a zoom call and approved a configuration change.

[Anonymous No.25974264]

Lines of code are almost 100% useless as a metric of work.

>solving complex platform problems (assessed by a software architect that management trusts)
>high-revenue low-bug features shipped

Those are two metrics you should judge codemonkeys on. I have worked with a guy who wrote tons of crap code and was fired for all the bugs released in production.

[Anonymous No.25974437]

>>25973412
>>25974083
Based

[Anonymous No.25974466]

>>25973340
this is me and i make over 100k. im great at acting like im working

[Anonymous No.25974471]

>>25973340
It's not like working on a factory assembly line you retard. You have a span of a day or two with thousands of lines and many other days with little to no program writing because you're doing faggoty project management paradigm shit like Agile / Scrum where you have fifty meeting each day explaining to each other what you would be working on if your boss didn't fall for trendy project management memes.

[Anonymous No.25974607]

>>25973340
>spend 1 day planning and mapping out what you need to do
>spend 1 day itemizing all the concerns, researching new implementations and practices
>spend 1 day mapping out the general structure of the code to address the previously researched data
>spend 1 day writing small scripts and testing code for new apis or to test various friction points on the previously laid out map
>spend 1 day writing the actual code that will eventually become production, it amounts to a couple hundred lines of code
>2 days weekend
Some retarded faggot:
>If I average those couple hundred lines per days it looks like you didn't work at all!
Then people whine about broken code, inefficient code, excessive dependencies, unmaintainable code, undocumented code.
You get what you fucking deserve.

[Anonymous No.25974634]

>mfw my job is just one line, and I don't write it
>I watch it

Line go up, money computer go beep boop.

[Anonymous No.25974691]

>>25973340
i have probably done that on a week. 200k a year here. too busy trading shitcoisn

[Anonymous No.25974716]

>>25973340
>10 lines
>All are copy pastes from google searches
And still they have to bring in people from India to do this...

[Anonymous No.25974718]

>>25974083
Extremely based

[Anonymous No.25974738]

>>25973944
I'm the other type. I find the problem solving aspect addicting. So I would rather do that then play video games for example.

[Anonymous No.25974810]

>>25973340
>tfw you got into professional programming by making video games for fun
>now making a templeos browser to learn networking
faggots who work in corporatised software need to be necked. the only approved languages are c, holyc, lua, and rust. oh, and any low level languages, x84, x64, etc.

[Anonymous No.25974840]

I hate unit tests
I hate coverage tools that force you to write unit tests
I hate changing code after writing unit tests
I hate having to rewrite unit tests after changing code

[Anonymous No.25974919]

10 lines of code
5 weekly meetings
1 daily scrum
1 end of day meeting
1 weekly progress report
1 case of alcoholism

[Anonymous No.25974951]

>>25974810
>holyc
Why are schizo everywhere?

[Anonymous No.25974974]

So whenever someone brags about being a 10x engineer, they’re really just cranking out 100 lines

[Anonymous No.25975145]

>>25974840
>I hate making sure my code works at all times

[Anonymous No.25975256]

>>25975145

[Anonymous No.25975399]

>>25975145
>mocked dependencies have no downsides!
>all the unit tests pass, therefore my program works in entirety!
>who cares if refactoring or changing code now takes five times as long

[Anonymous No.25975648]

>>25975399
if you mock them like a dumbass and are only trying to get a passing test then sure. code which is easily testable is more likely to be cleaner by default, therefore invalidating your last point. you sound like a pajeet who shits out a spaghetti code mess and thinks "good enough".

[Anonymous No.25975746]

>>25974951
Explain how I'm wrong, exactly. HolyC is better than C in almost every way outside of availability and "market share". Terry Davis marks one of the most intelligent programmers of our time.

[Anonymous No.25975971]

10CLS
20 ?"Hello world"
30 Goto 20

>Lunch Break

15 Gosub 50
50 ?"lolz"
60 goto 50

>smoke break

55 gosub 70
70 ?"lmao munny munny"
75 goto 70

>punch out, go home for the day

[Anonymous No.25976081]

>>25975648
You’re a dumbass if you think there is a "right" way to mock a complex dependency that has no downsides

[Anonymous No.25976160]

>>25973887
What I do is I find the problem, usually takes 2 days max, and then pretend I'm looking for the trouble for two or more weeks (I am actually shitposting and trading crypto). I make it seem like it's some difficult to find serious bug and then theatrically reveal I've found and fixed it.

[Anonymous No.25976233]

>>25973340
I don't even do that most days

[Anonymous No.25976392]

>>25973340
Wait I've been 2 times better than average this whole time??? Sounds like I get to 3 hour lunch breaks now

[Anonymous No.25976511]

did about 5 lines yesterday. i think i'll do more today.

[Anonymous No.25976627]

On a production app everything is careful and measured. Not just the code, the design and data too.

[Anonymous No.25977265]

>>25973340
I consider it success when I can remove lines, and still have something at least as readable and functional as before.