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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized p2p privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and borderless, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT (hidden tx amounts) ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with the proof of the transactions being possible by a Monero user willingly providing a view key for a specific transaction if needed.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of the current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of txs goes higher. Further, the mining network algorithm Random X establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in May 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a Monero Chad will be with you shortly.


OFFICIAL WEBSITE - https://web.getmonero.org


WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Binance
Kraken
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
Local Monero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
https://archive.is/TWOah


HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Gui/Cli (recommended)
MyMonero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo
NOTE: MYMONERO FOR ANDROID IS A SCAM. DO NOT DOWNLOAD ON GOOGLE PLAY.

>Cold Storage
https://archive.is/DEfsP

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>xmr thread

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Trump Nazis pumping our bags

kek

>> No.25870150

Comfiiest hold

>> No.25870220

>>25870031
slash people getting out of BTC?

>> No.25870237

comfy thread
>>25869996
awesome tarot card

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dj billybull checking in.
how my monerochads doing today?

>> No.25870936

comfy

>> No.25870944

>>25870826
comfy af

>> No.25870965

>>25869996
Bought more ZEC

>> No.25871037
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>>25870944
hello LebAnon always good to see you here

>> No.25871165

>>25870965
Newfrenz, note that the ZECfag shills in our thread because no one cares or responds when he makes one of his own.

He's bargain brand grocery store cola trying to compete against Coke, but he's never gonna get that Coke money.

>> No.25871246

>>25871165
kek
>>25871037
likewise friend

>> No.25871434

anyone know about tangram?

>> No.25871558

>>25869996
Sir good morning I must kindly ask you to stop making the general. Ever since the General was made we have been plumbing new lows in the xmr/btc ratio. It is very sad.

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comfy holding my [unknown amount]

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>>25872388
Ëe hav XMR? Trace he'es IP and raid he'es house. We need all thê XMR we can get.

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>>25871558
General's been around for years bro.

>> No.25872640

What if XMR is so private that the three letter agencies all start buying up all the XMR available and hoarding it to prevent people from doing transactions?

>> No.25872716

>>25872640
How would that even work?

>> No.25872750

>>25871165
Why doesnt grayscale hold XMR?

>> No.25872825

>>25872750
Because unlike ZEC it actually works as a tool to transact privately, and financial institutions / the surveillance state fear it.

>> No.25872996

>>25872640
they could only buy whats on the market, skyrocketing the price. you could dump at them for 50k a coin. and they would also have to buy up all newly mined coins. so even if there would be only 100k xmr left in circulation, we would just trade with them in much smaller fractions

>> No.25873239

>>25869996
Hey op, thanks for making the general, but please include the slashes in the subject so the thread is easier to find.
It’s easier to ctrl f “/xmr/” instead of “xmr” because the former has only one result.

>> No.25873410

>>25872640
Scarcity + demand = higher price. Its why narcotics are expensive.

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Is this relevant:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9137953/German-police-shut-worlds-largest-darknet-marketplace.html

?
I don't know too much about these markets. I thought white house was already the largest.
Also: >A total of at least 320,000 transactions were carried out via the marketplace, with more than 4,650 Bitcoin and 12,800 Monero - two of the most common cryptocurrencies - changing hands, prosecutors said.

>> No.25873639

Gonna start my accumulating and start to get comfy

>> No.25873656

>>25872459
дёмп eт

>> No.25873719

>>25873574
Yeah, the DNM are gradually migrating to Monero and it will likely end up the default and only means of payment until something better comes along.

>> No.25874123

>>25873574
Big news. Darkmarket was the second largest behind White House market.
And while they were using Monero, the majority of transactions were still clearly with Bitcoin.

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>How is Monero’s privacy different from other coins?

Monero uses three different privacy technologies: ring signatures, ring confidential transactions (ringCT), and stealth addresses. These hide the sender, amount, and receiver in the transaction, respectively. All transactions on the network are private by mandate; there is no way to accidentally send a transparent transaction. This feature is exclusive to Monero. You do not need to trust anyone else with your privacy.

>How is Monero different from Bitcoin?

Monero is not based on Bitcoin. It is based on the CryptoNote protocol. Bitcoin is a completely transparent system, where people can see exactly how much money is being sent from one user to another. Monero hides this information to protect user privacy in all transactions. It also has a dynamic block size and dynamic fees, an ASIC-resistant proof of work (RandomX), and a Tail Emission, among several other changes.


>What is fungibility, and why is it important?

Fungibility is a simple property of money such that there are no differences between two amounts of the same value. If two people exchanged a 10 and two 5’s, then no one would lose out. However, let’s suppose that everyone knows the 10 was previously used in a ransomware attack. Is the other person still going to make the trade? Probably not, even if the person with the 10 has no connection with the ransomware. This is a problem, since the receiver of money needs to constantly check the money they are receiving to not end up with tainted coins. Monero is fungible, which means people do not need to go through this effort.

>> No.25874881

>>25873574
never been able to find any good k on this shitty dnm anyway

>> No.25874926

What's you opinion about this?
https://monero-badcaca.net/
Also, https://ciphertrace.com/ciphertrace-files-two-monero-cryptocurrency-tracing-patents/
Can we have an open discussion about it or the community prefers to deny evidence? I'm genuinely curious to know if it's fake or real

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https://twitter.com/BitMEX/status/1348850071362797572

>> No.25875081

>>25874926
a literal schizo shitpost and "probabilistic" approaches of "likely" owners
not very impressed ngl

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>>25874957
i meant to post the screenshot of the tweet

>> No.25875195

>>25875086
Major kek

>> No.25875211

>>25874926
Regarding badcaca:
All he is doing is taking ip addresses that you can pick up from running a node and running it through a torrent search (to see what torrents that person downloaded). He then makes up porn descriptions to smear the person.
It doesn’t reveal anything about the transactions — if a person made a transaction, when they did, how much they did, etc.
regarding ciphertrace:
Filing patents mean nothing. You can’t directly trace monero, as has been literally confirmed by the cipher trace ceo himself.
> Can we have an open discussion about it or the community prefers to deny evidence
How about you neck yourself instead?
There is no evidence of transactions be traced in either of those links.

>> No.25875291

>>25874926
We don't discuss it because we know it's shitty weak FUD.

>> No.25875301

>>25874926

Guy is a legit mental patient.

>> No.25875413

COMFY MONERO
make me buy more <3

>> No.25875796

>>25874926
Isn't proveably real if that makes you feel any better. And FireIceUK literally went off the deep end because he thought he was smarter than everyone on the XMR dev team.

>> No.25875922

>>25875211
He can not see anything regarding transactions receivers, senders, amounts etc. All he can see is public node IPs and that these modes might be transmitting new transactions. However he doesn't even know if they come from remote connections made to the node or maybe the node is just relaying a transaction along the dandelion stem.
The whole thing is literally weak fud to scare the normies.

>> No.25876117

>>25875796
>FireIceUK
Is that who made that? Complete whackjob, mainly butthurt about the switch to RandomX. He was obviously way over-invested into GPU mining and did everything he could to smear Monero during the algo switch.

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Friendly reminder that it has been 104 days since the IRS awarded the $1.25 million "break Monero" contract to Chainalysis and Integra|not CipherTrace.

Current Monero Status: Unbroken.

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>>25870965
ok

>> No.25877978

>>25871558
Well clearly you care about BTC then and not XMR, fuck off faggot

>> No.25878125

>>25873719
There is nothing better. XMR literally already offers everything you need. And more privacy things can be changed like the protocols later.

>> No.25878188

>>25874123
So bullish for XMR, the users will order now from order dark markets. One of them probably Whitehouse. The coins that will be should are neglible only 2MM

>> No.25878928

>>25869996
XMR can be tracked, use 0xMR

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>>25870965
>Bought more ZEC

>>25878928
XMR can be tracked, use 0xMR

>> No.25879009

>>25878928
kek

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>>25870965
>Bought more ZEC

>>25878928
>XMR can be tracked, use 0xMR

>> No.25879041

>>25878928
0.1 0xINR has been deposited to your account. Thank you for your service.

>> No.25879667

bizzump

>> No.25879672

>>25879041
Don't spend it all on curry

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>>25879672

>> No.25880470

Bump

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>> No.25881225

>>25879672
I read that as cunny what is happening to me.

>> No.25881517

>>25881182
True digital gold

>> No.25881645

Could I be a slum lord and accept rent payment in Monero?

>> No.25882136

>>25874123
bullish as balls

>> No.25882150

>>25876690
I'm sorry for all of you, but this prize was awarded 15 days after the contest was published. Do you think they like to give away money like this?
https://beta.sam.gov/opp/5ab94eae1a8d422e88945b64181c6018/view
Haven't you heard of it? No wonder, there are people who are making a lot of money dumping monero on you. What you mean by "breaking" monero?
If people make millionaire deals with this coin and get caught you won't hear about it on the newspaper.. Oh.. wait
https://twitter.com/DarkDotFail/status/1348977379620790274?s=20

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>>25882150
>I'm sorry for all of you, but this prize was awarded 15 days after the contest was published. Do you think they like to give away money like this?

"Floated early September, the one-year contract specifically covers transactions involving monero (XMR) and second-layer payment solutions such as bitcoin’s lightning network (LN) – features considered by the IRS as conduits for criminal financial activity.

"Per the original request, the firms will be advanced $500,000 each to develop the required tracing tool, and then another $125,000 if the submitted solution proves successful and is approved. A working submission is due in eight months. Testing and development will occur in the ensuing120 days."

https://news.bitcoin.com/chainalysis-and-integra-win-1-25-million-irs-contract-to-break-monero/

>> No.25882276

>>25882150
>DarkMarket ran on "Eckmar marketplace", a readily-available cryptomarket PHP script infamous for insecurities and half-baked features.
>Eckmar claims to store all messages and shipping addresses encrypted. We'll see how that pans out in the coming wave of arrests.

>> No.25882314

>>25882150
This can literally be debunked by using common sense. So can most Monero fud, really. First off, $625k is chump change for a government agency, especially the IRS. Secondly, it's never been used. I don't care what cryptography-breaking technology some company has managed to develop, it's meaningless if it's not been used to expose a user's transactions.

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>Chainalysis employee Aleš Janda:

"Monero has done the Technological part very good. Transactions look considerably equally. And then, in the majority of cases, I am not able to say if two different txs are done by the same user. Neither exclude, nor confirm. It is not fully flawless, but Monero is done really nice."

"One of the trick how they do Monero is (except the insane math - in my opinion really brilliant algorithms) they do every year or half-year a planned hard-fork. It means the rules will be changed, we don't actually know the rules, but we know exactly the rules will change next year and will be different."

"When the date of hard-fork is coming, the devs publish those rules and everybody has to migrate to the new rules. This is terrible for decentralization and so, because there are a small group of devs which dictate the rules, but most people don't mind. On the other side, they force that all txs are looking the same and this is very good - for anonymity."

"I liked Monero even before. but when I started to work on Monero full time, and tried to uncover all the algorithms, I like it much more :) because is really good invented. By this, I don't want to say, It is not possible to deanonimize it, but also I don't want to say it is possible."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/jz1loz/an_idea_to_expose_surveillance_coins/gdfk0ip/

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>>25869996
when would be the best time to buy monero?
is it about to crash any time soon?

>> No.25883695

>>25883479
DCA sir.
Otherwise probably when btc is soaring.

>> No.25883995

>>25879672
My day just improved somewhat

>> No.25884235

>>25882257
fucking rekt
>>25882150
PrIzE wAs AwArDeD

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>>25883479
what the FUCK is that thing

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>>25884383
thats a cute dog

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>>25869996

>> No.25884809

I only have an unknown amount but still C O M F Y

>> No.25885021

I just want to do to a swap meet and sell things only in XMR at amazing deals just to provoke interest and enrage boomers.

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>>25884809
We stacking till we leave orbit

>> No.25885404

>>25882770
>t want to say, It is not possible to deanonimize it, but also I don't want to say it is possible."

When you turn your enemies into people that love you, you know you've done it right. You can read between the lines that he is absolutely orgasming when his wife says "Monero"

>> No.25885431

>>25885021
It's sad that we aren't allowed to really assemble in public because of rona and now there is risk of being wiped off the internet.

>> No.25885721

>>25882770
>litecoin adding MW
Q - OK, then. What do you think about Mimble Wimble and its anonymity ? [Question from spectator]

|1:54:01|

A - I like MW , but I like it because of scalability, it has quite interresting way, but Anonymity is nothing much. Specificaly, in MW it's enough if an 'attacker' has one node on the network and collects the transactions sooner than it come and join to next block. Simply It's enough to catch those txs while they are unconfirmed. The anonymity is similar ... nah - it's not similar like in bitcoin, because there are also invisible (stealth) amounts, but anyway it's not as good as monero.

>> No.25885747

>>25884617
charge forward meneros

>> No.25886133

>>25879672
thanks for the kek anon

>> No.25886250

What happens if you use remote node?
Why is it worse than local node?
110GB is too much dataspace wasted if it isn't worth it.

>> No.25886435

>>25886250
If you use a remote node, that remote node can see your IP address when you connect to them. You can mitigate this by connecting though tor or using a trusted remote node.
You also help benefit the ecosystem when running a node because you are helping maintain the network.
Also, you can prune the blockchain, meaning the total size is about 35gb.

>> No.25886444

Hello fellow monegroes!

I'm hosting a full node with about 800mbit upload speed. Right now I'm uploading 1mbit, peak today was 88mbits.

Do you guys not want more of my data? I set the limit to 1gbit, is there anything else I can do???

Also I noticed that traffic is way down since the crash yesterday..

>> No.25886525

>>25886444
Probably has to do more with the attacks on the torv3 network

>> No.25886576

>>25886435
115GB is the current node requirement right?
does it increase day by day?

>> No.25886664

>>25883479
I hope so

>> No.25886707

>>25886444
>monegroes
KEK that’s a good one.
well you can set your node up as a public node. Not necessary as you are already doing a lot, but if you decide to do this individuals will auto connect to your node when searching with the gui. See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/kkgly6/message_to_all_monero_users_we_need_more_public/
Also, if you haven’t looked into it yet, you can join a mining pool.
>>25886576
You can run a pruned node, which is around 35 gb.
It does increase every day. Every block of transactions takes up space.

>> No.25887236

So. According to y’all Monero will be the next big thing in a few years. What about every exchange delisting it?

>muh atomic swaps
So that means no institutional money. No normie money. Even if it somehow survives, How the fuck will you cash out to fiat?

>> No.25887297

>>25887236
>What about every exchange delisting it?
Every exchange is not delisting it.

>> No.25887308

>>25886707
seconded
pruned nodes ftw!

>> No.25887320

>>25887236
>How the fuck will you cash out to fiat?
via atomic swaps to normie coins? Duh

>> No.25887360

>>25887236
>So that means no institutional money.
No that means "no institutional money" wink wink, nudge nudge.

>> No.25887389

>>25887297
even if they do zero fucks given
>>25887236
no , according to us, monero is already the next big thing (sorry if I'm speaking for everyone else), there ain't no stopping this train
the only way it would fail is by being too good hence the governmental overlords would try batshit crazy stuff to stop it, meaning it works
fuck institutional money, Michael Saylor is a relic from the dotcom bubble who is using btc to allow investors to be indirectly exposed to BTC, he's becoming the McAfee of BTC in my opinion

>> No.25887525

>>25887389
But lebanon, Michael saylor says the Future of money is encrypted. That's obviously butcorn KEK

>> No.25887660

>>25887525
muh encryption lol

>> No.25887733

>>25886525
I'm running the latest version without the tor node ban. The good monero people managed to get a patch for the ddos pretty quickly. That's the main reason why I'm hosting the node.
>>25887389
Thx, doing what I can to contribute to the memes.
Ports 18080 & 18081 are open to the internet so a bunch of people are downloading right now. I just want more people to use my bandwidth, I'm semi paying for it so might as well use it.

I did some mining before but now my server is a little bit outdated. I'm running a 200mbit TOR node though so that's always something.. Need to contribute to good internet projects now that everything is getting banned.

>> No.25888146

>>25887389
>>25887297
>>25887320

But you will always be in the shadow of other coins. You need the other coins to survive in order to stay relevant. Adaptation is key, and it isn’t normie friendly. Will the average crypto investor care enough about privacy?

>> No.25888253

>>25888146
if they don't then humanity is fucked
welcome to the brave new world, 1984 and all that shit, enjoy unironically living like a fucking automaton if you don't care for it
adaptation IS key, monero adapted quite well
lastly, monero is the shadow that THEY fear

>> No.25888286

Guys, check out these two amazing vendors that accept monero:

>drapis.com
raw unfiltered honey non-industrially farmed by a small business. I got mine a week ago and it actually tastes surreally good, way better than store bought, also batch tastes a bit different as they don't mix batches.

>renjer.ky
Sustainably sourced jerky from wild game reindeer or elk, tastes way better than beef jerky in my opinion, elk is my favourite.

I'm not affiliated with any of these, just a happy customer who liked their products, and I want to support vendors that accept monero.

>> No.25888301

>>25888286
BASED

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>>25887236
>So that means no institutional money. No normie money. Even if it somehow survives, How the fuck will you cash out to fiat?

If you read the detailed Satis Group crypto analysis it is specifically stated that most of Monero's future growth will come not from institutional money but from offshore/black money assets. And this will happen because as the premier privacy coin it provides the best possible means of transactional stealth.

So, when you consider that

A) Monero is already replacing Bitcoin on the darknet/blackhat realm

>Darknet Giant White House Market Drops Bitcoin, Supports Monero Payments Only
https://news.bitcoin.com/darknet-giant-white-house-market-drops-bitcoin-supports-monero-payments-only/

>Monero replaces Bitcoin for Sodinokibi Ransomware operators
https://www.cybersecurity-insiders.com/monero-replaces-bitcoin-for-sodinokibi-ransomware-operators/

AND that

B) Money laundering via crypto is already starting to become a thing

>Latin American crime cartels turn to cryptocurrencies for money laundering
https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico-bitcoin-insight-idUSKBN28I1KD

>Criminals laundered $2.8 billion in 2019 using crypto exchanges, finds a new analysis
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/16/130843/cryptocurrency-money-laundering-exchanges/

it iss plainly obvious that HUNDREDS of billions of shady dollars are eventually going to end up in Monero's marketcap.

And that doesn't even count the superior mixing utility Monero will provide other coins as atomic swaps are expanded to other chains.

TL;DR: future demand for & usage of Monero is set to skyrocket and will eventually send it to Mars.

>> No.25888458

>>25887733
Thanks for helping the network anon.

>> No.25888577

>>25888286
this is the better future i have always dreamt of.

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25888583

Coin outlawed.

>> No.25888634

>>25888146
>Will the average crypto investor care enough about privacy?
privacy is coming onto everyone's radars rapidly.

>> No.25888670

>>25888458
Doing what I can!

>> No.25889373
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>>25888286
unbelievably based.

also don't forget about xmr.wine!

>> No.25889627

>>25879027
Now that is good fucking news

>> No.25889982

>>25888146
>it isn’t normie friendly
no yet. but it's improving. look at all the people who are running nodes, free for the public, just so that normies can use their phone to use monero without setting up their own full node
on that note, thank you >>25887733, your contribution is appreciated

>>25888146
>Will the average crypto investor care enough about privacy?
No, not for an investment. However it does creep out people to realize that with one payment you can see their whole balance and all their transactions. Privacy is not a tacked on extra, it's fundamentally needed for everyday transactions. This is the message to normies.

>>25888253
>if they don't then humanity is fucked
likely sounds like a hyperbole to normies, but the consequences of not having something like monero are grim and reach beyond imagination

>> No.25890069
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I wish there was a XMR farmers market.

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>>25882150
Seems like they do

>> No.25890569

>>25890392
See: https://mobile.twitter.com/davejevans/status/1330008956270374918

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>> No.25891624

>>25890569
>Nobody can deterministically trace Monero transactions yet.

Plenty of discussion on the internet why CipherTrace is all fluff

>> No.25892088

>>25890392
CipherTrace can't literally do shit.

>> No.25892989

>>25892088
The propaganda works really well though.
Nine times out of ten, the crypto normie who only passively knows about monero think it was cracked by the feds, and it’s all because of bullshit crypto “journalism” like what was linked.

>> No.25893139

>>25870031
I mean nigga anyone with money is smart enough to see that we are headed into a totalitarian nightmare with ungodly tax rates designed to disincentivize work and entrepreneurship. Monero is the AR-15 of cryptocurrencies.

>> No.25893478

https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/338.pdf

To summarize, this work presents several attacks on the traceabilityguarantees of Monero. Our attacks are easy to mount and onlyrequires a passive blockchain analysis. Moreover, our attacks areeffective as over 87% of inputs are rendered traceable. We also foundsome traceability results on RingCTs and nally propose a bettermethod (than the one currently employed) to choose mix-ins thatmitigates temporal analysis.

>> No.25893618

>>25893478
>Literary four year old fud
>pre ring ct
Try harder glownigger

>> No.25893655

$200 waiting room?

>> No.25893888

>>25893618

hey dont insult me. I just wish I had gotten in earlier.

>> No.25894113

I only have about 1.5 XMR, what is a make it stack?

>> No.25894148

>>25893888
Nice deflection glowie.

>> No.25894204

>>25894113
Insert (unknown amount meme) just think about how much btc you would have gone back in time to purchase at $150.

>> No.25894725

>>25893888
Hindsight is a bitch, we're still early anon. We have yet to see buttcorn collapse

>> No.25895228
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25895228

Everybody that gets in NOW is likely going to make it.

>> No.25895524

>>25895228
how much do i need?

>> No.25895619

>>25895524
50-100 XMR

>> No.25895700

>>25893888
Checked. FUDDERs confirmed to be accumulating XMR

>> No.25895801
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25895801

I never bought this because my wallet doesn't support it, I don't wanna keep it on a shitty phone wallet

>> No.25895816

>>25895801
dont keep monero on your phone then? buy a $100 thinkpad

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>>25895619
i have 3€

>> No.25896177

>>25895801

Just use cake wallet my god man

>> No.25896251

>>25895961
Oh just go on Bitmex and bet on red. They'll lend you a 100x margin account to short with no questions asked.

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>>25887236
>cashing out to fiat

>> No.25897159

>>25887236
>cash out to fiat
Lmao. In another decade, when crypto is an accepted form of payment everywhere, you cash out to normie coins and then pay with those. As long as crypto>crypto on ramps to XMR exist, it will be fine. We dont hold XMR so we can cahs it out for millions some day; we hold for the day we won't have to.

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25898359

>>25870944
Checked, hope you are safe LebAnon

>> No.25898432

>>25896177
is using cake wallet safe and secure?

>> No.25899293

>>25898432
Yes

>> No.25899811

whats everyones preferred wallet, cake?

>> No.25900340

>>25899811
Cake is v based