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This fucking idiot is in full damage control. Imagine being a legit financial company and addressing extreamly damaging news like this, on a personal twitter in broken english being passive aggressive - thats right you cant imagine it. This is beyond a joke now, check his twitter, hes in full shill mode and saying statements that have already been denied by his lawyers and his own website such as being back 1:1 - its fucking over, 15th of jan is real, exit whilst you can

>> No.25782222

>>25782174
I'm listening to his actual podcast, and went from Tether FUD skeptic to Tether FUD believer at about 10 minutes in.

>> No.25782227

>>25782222
based digits, dump eet

>> No.25782254
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25782254

>>25782174
>Deltec
Dear Sirs:

>> No.25782293
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25782293

>>25782174
He's literally shitposting on /biz/

>> No.25782300

>>25782254
Do the needful sirs

>> No.25782307

>>25782254
im gonna look at their office, gimmie a sec

>> No.25782335

>>25782174
>>25782293
I knew it was probably just that guy. Imagine unironically defending Tether.

>> No.25782402

>>25782174
Will this cause ETH to plummet too?

>> No.25782462

>>25782402
Yes. The liquidity crisis will affect the whole crypto market.

>> No.25782490
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25782490

PAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA ONE FLOOR OF ONE OF THESE SHITTY OFFICE BLOCKS IS TETHERS HEADQUARTERS, BROS PAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA ONE OF THESE FUCKING SHITTY COMMUNIST LOOK CHINK BLOCKS IS THE HEADQUARTERS FOR A COMMPANY THAT HAS SUPPOSEDLY RECIEVED 2.8 BILLION DOLLARS IN 2021 ALONE POAHAHAHA

also fuck off this is not spam

>> No.25782578

>>25782402
Tether is an erc token. Biggest ETH pairing. Tons of liquitdy pools on dexes. Yes ethereum will get hit hard, arguably more than btc

>> No.25782582
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>>25782490
just keep buying that "bitcoin stock" guys
lmfao
the lmfao cannot be fucking understated im getting fucking OCD over it 75489wy65wu

>> No.25783154

>>25782582
>that "bitcoin stock"
Same people exist even in Tesla universe, imagine my shock.
>that musk guy tesla stock

>> No.25783302

>>25782222
the more I listen, the more I realize how full of shit tether are

>> No.25783373

>>25782174
How come tether fudsters can't spell correctly? Are you 12?

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>>25783373
yooo i spelled extremly wrong

>> No.25783564

>>25782174
>No rocket science
my sides are undergoing some rocket science

>> No.25783611

>>25782254
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHH CHINA HUSTLED

>> No.25783652

this is all memeing aside a really bad look, why is he talking like this on twitter has his legal team already finished exit scamming first

>> No.25783770

imagine the wave of pure greed someone must have to surfing on to be still long in this market that has just gone parabolic with all this fud going on

>> No.25783829

It's ' Extremely', you illiterate retard.
Learn that if you make these dumb mistakes, no one takes you seriously.

>> No.25783880

>>25783829
>this is the only defense left against tether FUD while completely ignoring how one of the main tether guys writes

>> No.25783932

OK, why BUSD and USDC are still trading with a discount against USDT on Kraken, Binance etc.?

>> No.25783939

>>25783880
kek, no rocket science

>> No.25783998

just market bought https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/questions-for-tether

>> No.25784109

https://youtu.be/b_Uq5QCHcU0?t=1433

>> No.25784200

Ok im selling until Jan 15th, fuck this shit, 2017 all over again

>> No.25784236

>>25784109
PHAHAHHAAHHAA

>> No.25784270

OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAH THESE RETARDS

>> No.25784305

>>25782174
>tether is backed
Where does he say it's 1:1?

>> No.25784357

>>25782174
>in broken english
kek

>> No.25784369

>>25784305
https://twitter.com/paoloardoino/status/1348287351445987329

>> No.25784400

>>25784369
pegged doesn't mean backed

>> No.25784484

>>25784400
what does he mean by 1:1 then

>> No.25784547

>>25784484
means USDT is trading at the same price as USD

>> No.25784548

>>25782174
not giving you mine btc satan

>> No.25784565

Bumping for fudpoints

>> No.25784649
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>>25784305
>Where does he say it's 1:1?
Where is the specific law that says you need 100% of your stablecoin backing in USD and not 75% US with 25% other financial instruments?
Since they're going with 75% backing in actual cash as their official openly stated stance it sounds like there isn't a law against that.
You could argue they're lying and it's really 0% cash but that sounds a little retarded since you might as well just claim 100% if you're already lying instead of claiming 75%.

>> No.25784724

>>25782174
Funny all these coordinated simultaneous attacks on the crypto space all of the sudden. Fuck you all you glowing cunts.

>> No.25785043

>>25784724
>tether fudders are all xrp schizos
>there is a coordinated conspiracy against me wahh

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>>25784649

>> No.25785827

Daily reminder that US banks by law may have a reserve ratio of 0% and nobody gives a fuck.

>> No.25786070

>>25785827
Yes but they don't all create coins, call it a dollar stable coin without any audits to prove it. Big differences

>> No.25786096

If the tether fud turns out to be bullshit, BTC reaches 100k in 2 days. Guaranteed.

>> No.25786110

>>25782174
Hilarious that a damage control podcast interview would be the thing that tanks crypto for the next 5 years. Irony 100/100.

>> No.25786526

>>25786110
yeah i dont know who advised them to do that, possibly the most stupid thing ive ever seen, unscripted as well

>> No.25786573

>>25782254
sirs pls. we have the money. trust us.
t. pajeets in bahamas

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>>25786573
yours faithfully, 〰

>> No.25786655

>>25785043
Yes.
Only dishonest discord trannies pretend to take tether fud seriously.
Reminder that private exchanges wouldn't even need tether to do any of this.

>> No.25786796

>>25786620
snek

>> No.25786813

>>25786070
can you explain in your own words why that is worse than a bank having zero percent reserve and lending out ten times the amount of their outstanding deposit obligations?

>> No.25786835

Monero is pumping.
Literally exit scamming as we speak.

>> No.25786847

>>25786813
banks are registered enterties that create real spendable dollars, they create these dollars by extending them in loans not spending themselves to manipulate markets

>> No.25786855

>he sold at 19.7k
>he is priced out eternally
>"guys the tether fud is real!"
>"please guys just let me get back in i swear i won't swing this time"

>> No.25787196

>>25786835
Does make you wonder

>> No.25787244

>>25785827
So? Crypto exists to opt out of the central banking system

>> No.25787293

>>25786835
Lmfao imagine actually believing this, don't get butthurt and start making fud threads when XMR's at $250

>> No.25787337

>>25782174
literally who cares

if btc crashes on the 15th just buy the dip lmao

>> No.25787397

Bitcoin didn’t even crash in 2017 because of tether

>> No.25787430

>>25784649
I think you could get them on misrepresentation or at a push, fraud, depending on what they told investors.
As far as I’m aware though, you’re right in that there’s no law that says they have to be backed.
It’s more a civil case of (i) what they led investors to believe (or that’s my understanding at least) (which is not a big deal even if they get got on it - they’ll pay compensation and move on), and (ii) Whether they were involved in artificially inflating asset prices through arrangements with other parties (printing and distributing unbacked tether with the aim of inflating assets and benefitting from the higher prices) (this would be the more serious charge)

I’m haven’t really looked into it that much, so this is just my high level understanding.

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>>25786096
Of course, no doubt about it. The only reason it's being suppressed now is because these FUD is still alive and Tether the company has done nothing to prove anything other than tweeting "muh tether is backed/pegged durr, pls buy bitcoin so i can dump".

>> No.25787467

>>25785827
I think it’s 10 or so %, actually.
But otherwise, yes, fractional reserve banking exists.

>> No.25787501

>>25782254
The sign of that document has the same pattern that will be next on BTC chart.

>> No.25787530

>>25786813
1. It’s not 0%
2. Banks have lots of different income streams and lots of diversified assets.
3. They are subject to a lot of regulation around what capital they need to hold for what trades and counterparts types.
4. They are overall vastly different from a crypto company (any crypto company)

>> No.25787539

That's it sold everything, BYE CRAPTO

>> No.25787579

https://youtu.be/b_Uq5QCHcU0?t=2033
The NYAG investigated the reserves in April 2019. The current investigation is unrelated.

>> No.25787660

>>25782490
Tether is Chinese? Massive sell signal

>> No.25787664

>>25787467
nope it's literally zero now

>> No.25787677

>>25787660
its actually taiwannese you little commie fuck

>> No.25787711

>>25787467
>>25787530
it’s 0 right now because of covid

>> No.25787723

>>25782222
>Ye buy fokin Tron, ar ya serius mate?
The podcast became very unprofessional near the end. I don't know what to feel

>> No.25787769

Podcast link?

>> No.25787785

I just listened to this and immediately market sold my entire stack. As this fraud unravels things will get ugly. Good luck everyone -
https://youtu.be/b_Uq5QCHcU0

>> No.25787881

>>25782174
This is bullish, buy when there is fear

>> No.25788024

>>25787501
Kek'd

>> No.25788055

>>25782174
N

>> No.25788059

>>25784484
he means they manipulate the USDT trading pairs to keep 1:1... until they don't

>> No.25788083

>>25786620
its a fucking whale kek

>> No.25788104

>>25782307
I live in Taipei, I can go check out the office tomorrow.

>> No.25788119

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>> No.25788215

>>25782254
that's hilarious

>> No.25788225

>>25784649
He says it's 1:1 with a "basket of assets" and he wont disclose how many BTC constitutes that collateral.

These fuckers are rats.

>> No.25788257

>>25787677
All Taiwanese banks told them to fuck off in 2017. Now they wire all their money through undisclosed banks.

>> No.25788363

>>25788104
https://twitter.com/caspiancey/status/1263503768240324610

Anyhow, good luck to you anon. Please deliver don't be a fag

>> No.25788426

>>25788257
They accidentally disclosed it today. They bought up Deltec to launder their money. Deltec has only $5bil in foreign currency... and $3bil before they bought it. It's gonna be ogre once this hits the headlines. Sell now while we're above $30k

>> No.25788469

Wonder why the faggots in this thread want us to sell our coins so bad

>> No.25788474

>>25782174
who is paolo ardoino?

>> No.25788491

>>25784649
Fraud is illegal. Market manipulation is illegal.

They've done both.

>> No.25788503

>>25788474
the illiterate ceo of tether

>> No.25788523

>>25782490
um guys i have $270k in bitcoins.. should i sell?

>> No.25788536

>>25788491
scamming idiots in 2017 is one thing. Grayscale onboarded pension funds into their trust, kek, and now the big guns will be out to hunt down fraudsters who defrauded pensioners.

>> No.25788577

>>25788503
uhh

>> No.25788579

>>25782254
nothing to worry about sirs

>> No.25788586

>>25788523
yes

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>>25788426

>> No.25788716

>>25788586
i cant trade on the weekend (bought using my bank).. i can't trade until tomorrow
Is this real? Listening to the whatbitcoindid podcast rn

>> No.25788753

>>25788716
you cant trade on the weekend? you should have set up an account with Deltec, its no rocket science

>> No.25788756

>>25788716
Don't take our word for it, listen yourself and make up your mind. I sold everything with no regrets, jesus these guys are fucking amateurs, how did they get away with it for so long???

>> No.25788791

>>25788756
have you ever considered 90% of the people in crypto are 90% normies following the crowd with a dunning kruger level of understanding or markets and the technology?

>> No.25788832

>>25788536
4chan autists research their investments better than institutional money, sad but true

>> No.25788836

>>25788791
90iq not %

>> No.25788880

>>25788832
makes sense tbf, were investing our own money, they are investing for others and get a cut of the profits, they have the incentive to take what ever risks they want as they only see the upside

>> No.25788986

>>25788791
>i is smart because i watch youtube
What will you do on Friday when nothing happens?

>> No.25789025

>>25788986
its all ready happening

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>>25788986
>>25789025
When I first read about the Tether fud and looked up a picture, seriously can a guy look more shady?

>> No.25789207

>>25782174
>its fucking over, 15th of jan is real, exit whilst you can
nothing will happen on the 15th. according to a lawyer on twitter. I believe him more than some random on /biz spreading fud. gluck.

>> No.25789210

>>25789025
>everything that happens is confirmation of whatever I presuppose
Cool beans. Why are you still so poor if you're so good at predicting the future?

>> No.25789450

>>25782254
ffs, that's almost comical. This shit will hit huge. The bubble is only waiting for any legit reason to pop. Here we go boys

>> No.25789489

>>25788523
no, just initiate a short position on btc in USDT on bitfinex. Lol

>> No.25789527

>>25789207
you believe a lawyer on twitter more than your autistic frens on the internet? ngmi unironically, i mean really. ngmi at all.

>> No.25789568

>>25788491
>Fraud is illegal. Market manipulation is illegal.
Not in crypto it's not.
What part about "unregulated market" don't you understand?

>> No.25789621

>>25782462
Isn't liquidity issues the use case of ampl?

>> No.25789623

>>25789568
commodities and derivatives (tether is a derivative of the USD) are still heavily regulated you fucking brainlet

>> No.25789643

>>25789489
if USDT goes titsup wouldn't that hurt your short-position gives the exchange won't let you buy back the USDT you used to short?

>> No.25789672

>>25789623
just give up you pathetic piece of shit, you're just an asshurt nocoiner

>> No.25789762

>>25789643
i tried to be funny. Sorry. Of course you shouldn't be in any way in tether nor have your stacks on any exchange. If you're a hodler and believe in btc for the long term, stay in it, otherwise one should maybe take a little profits now.

>> No.25789764

>>25787664
Don’t be retarded. It’s not zero
The US follows Basel rukes

>> No.25789805

>>25787664
>>25787711
http://www.bankregdata.com/allHMmet.asp?met=ONE

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>>25782254

>> No.25789842

>>25782254
"Dear sirs" is extremely common in the UK, but this is still a scam.

>> No.25789910

>>25789762
i unironically have $270k in btc
entered at 11k with a little and made another big entry at 29k
prepared a sell-order for tomorrow when my bank opens but honestly this FUD is getting to me
I told my friend to buy when it was at 40k (bullish long-term) but unsure if I should tell people to sell now
is this fud actually legit?

>Peter McCormack: Do you own shares in Deltec?
>Stuart Hoegner: We do not comment on the investments we have with Tether

>> No.25789923

>>25788426
I listened to the whole podcast and I didn't catch that. I think we're being invaded by seething nocoiner faggots spreading tether fud

>> No.25789981

> peter schiff has placed one gold shaving into your wallet for this thread

>> No.25789986

>>25782254
kek, why do these people who are able to incorporate a multi million dollars scams always have broken english or you could always spot them through the way they either speak or written text?

>> No.25790046

>>25788756
They really went over-drive with the printing in the last 6 months or so

>> No.25790130

>>25789986
because 90% of crypto is idiots who dont do any research and follow crowds

>> No.25790151

>>25790130
You just described the people screeching about tether

>> No.25790189

>>25782174
>such as being back 1:1
This is in line with their previous statements, they had a brief moment where they were not fully backed and depegged from the USD.

>> No.25790192

>>25790151
not sure if your a shill or just retarded, if you look into tether for even 10 minutes you will find it to be the shadest thing imaginable

>> No.25790305

>>25789910
never tell people to buy. They will panic sell at a loss and then blame you every time

>> No.25790381

>>25790192
I 100% guarantee you haven't read the court documents yourself, you have no idea what the case is actually about and half no idea what January 15th actually is

>> No.25790438

>>25790381
Care to redpill? From what I gathered, it will probably be a non-event for Tether, but we might still crash

>> No.25790484

>>25782254
sirs?

>> No.25790485

>>25790438
>care to redpill

aren't you people sick of being fed information? I could literally send you anything I want, when all you have to do is google "ny ag tetther" and you can find the case yourself

>> No.25790500

>>25790438
It will crash because people are herd animals and it only takes a couple retards to set the trend

>> No.25790524

>>25783420
Yes you did because you're not very bright and must not be to fall for the tether fud so easily

>> No.25790540

>>25790192
The only part of the fud that has any truth to it is they're probably doing something shady. The specific theories are all garbage.

>> No.25790576

Bro, they gave SEC 2.5 mil documents, that shit will take 1 year to read and on 15 they will just ban tether from printing if u actually read the case so stfu

>> No.25790594

>>25784109
just sold. Holy shit.

>> No.25790613

>>25789623
tether isn't a derivative. there is no definition for a synthetic fiat cryptocurrency in any law.

>> No.25790672

>>25787711
When will you numbnuts realise covid is to mask tbe economic shitfest that we were hurling toward

Fucking p brains

>> No.25790828

>>25789805
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/reservereq.htm
>As announced on March 15, 2020, the Board reduced reserve requirement ratios to zero percent effective March 26, 2020. This action eliminated reserve requirements for all depository institutions.

>> No.25790890

>>25788215
It's real.
>>25789842
This explains why third worlders from former commonwealth countries use it. In crypto "sirs" is indicative of street shitters.

>> No.25791014

>>25790828
From what I can see, that has to do with reserved to be held with the Fed (presumably in order to access Fed liquidity). That’s separate from regulatory capital, which is what you hold against exposures (i.e. the fractional reserve banking).
I believe the current international standard is over 10% reg cap (but there are a lot of formulas as far as types of exposures, etc.).

So no. The requirement is not zero.

>> No.25791093

>>25786620
it's clearly a bait

>> No.25791129

>>25790576
I understood that those are the same documents that were given already in 2018

>> No.25791293

>>25790576
The closer the date gets and the AG doesn't request an extension on the injunction the clearer it is nothing is happening. On the 15th Tether is technically allowed to lend more money to Bitfinex if they want, that's it.

>> No.25791319

>>25788832
Imagine actually believing this kek. There’s a reason why 4chan autists are in the place they’re in while people running the big institutions currently buying are extremely successful. Not every autist is smart and successful, hence why there is only one Elon but millions of autistic incels contributing nothing to society

>> No.25791401

>>25782462
We have USDC we’ll be fine

>> No.25791480

Fundu are safu

>> No.25791700
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Comfy as fuck

>> No.25792289

fucking sold