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we all know this shit but just a fucking reminder.

>> No.25777645
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25777645

>>25777558
Are we at 3 already?

>> No.25777710

>>25777645
no, at 1, but soon at 2

>> No.25777718

>>25777558
this is how it works, but what it doesn't mention is that at phase 4 you need to sell when everyone else is still buying.
because if you don't, you'll end up down 30%-50% in a flash

>> No.25777765

>>25777718
that is only for us to know, because fuck all those other people.

>> No.25777772
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>>25777558
>Mfw we are still stuck at phase 1

>> No.25777796

>>25777772
we're literally days/weeks away from phase 2, q4 is always dogshit for eth

>> No.25777826

phase 2 started spinning up jan 1, phase 3 march 1, phase 4 may 1 if previous years are any indication

>> No.25777861

>>25777826
still in 1, but in that overlap phase

>> No.25777905

So dump bitcoin for ether now

>> No.25777933

we'll see. btc is faltering, becoming too heavy to move was inevitable. meanwhile, eth is up 50% since jan1 and less than 10% from entering rapid price discovery

>> No.25777937

>>25777645
Overlapping 1 with 2 right now.
Although I sold some ETH for BTC, due to impatience. But I also sold some ETH for XMR and LTC, which can give me some profit in phase 3.

>> No.25777941

>>25777718
Deleting

>> No.25777974

>>25777558
define "large caps" in phase 3, are these the top 50 only?

>> No.25777981

>>25777645
No currently in overlap of 1 and 2, moving into 2 over the next few days

>> No.25777990

>>25777974
yes i would say something like that.

>> No.25778004

>>25777990
which large cap are u looking to buy in phase 3? makerDAO a good choice?

>> No.25778030

>>25777974
certainly no. large caps would be DOT, ADA, LTC, BCH. 10 and beyond is LINK, BNB, NEO type alts, which are nowhere near majors.

>> No.25778034

>>25777558
There will not be an alt season now that link is in the top 20 lmao but please keep market buying eth for your shitcoin casino, it's making me rich.

>> No.25778080

>>25778004
it is, im looking ADA, LINK, DOT because they some events happening. this is also a big deal, events , news, ... this pump it much more

>> No.25778084
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25778084

>BTC's last cycle peaked in mid-December 2017
>ETH peaked a full month after that in mid-January 2018
Will this time lag happen again with altcoins?

>> No.25778089

>>25778030
LINK is #8 in MC right now you stupid fuck

>> No.25778105

>>25777718
This
>>25777710

>> No.25778160

>>25778089
I'm the stupid fuck yet you're down 80% in gwei and btc LMAO
"oh bro I bought at 20 cents lmaoo"

>> No.25778173

>>25778084
Look at price increases from previous ATH, not the fucking calender

we are in may 2017 or so, not in january 2017 just because now we have january.

>> No.25778192

>>25777558
I'm almost positive this is a double cycle. The only part I'm unsure on is whether we'll go bitcoin, eth, large caps, mid caps then back to Bitcoin before running the full cycle back to shitcoins pumping or if we'll have a double shitcoin cycle too.

>> No.25778234

>>25778160
>BTC value goes up in USD
>alts decline in sats
>morons like you proclaim that sats is the only thing worth valuing coins in even though its a proxy for USD

>> No.25778266

>>25778084
you're seeing the time lag persist right now on the charts.
btc did the exact same bullshit--blitz to highs, trading range to shakeout poors, then massive price discovery. eth is still in the trading range part, but it's literally the exact same. ETH is a million times easier to trade than btc, that hasn't changed at all since 2017
>>25778234
if an alt is going down 80% against btc and eth, then what the fuck is the point of holding it? you honestly thought at 0.005 or whatever that it was gonna 2-5x and be worth as much as ethereum? lol.

>> No.25778278

>>25778266
>if an alt is going down 80% against btc and eth, then what the fuck is the point of holding it?
Because it went up in dollar value. I understand this point eludes you, though.

>> No.25778287

>>25778192
You think there will be a decoupling of ether in relation to bitcoin?

>> No.25778324
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>>25778278
i fuckin love it
>when pairs are red hot, claim that link is going to flip eth
>post retarded parabolas on the btc chart all day
>when it breaks down claim all that matters is USD

>> No.25778363

>>25777558
Yeah except institutions are not going to be trading their BTC for shitcoins on Binance/Bittrex/Poloniex this time.
Everytime an institution makes a big BTC buy and puts it into cold storage for 3+ years, it shifts the market back to Phase 1 and rekts your shitcoins/scamtokens in satoshis.
They won't be fooled into leaving Phase 1/2 like the retail money in the last bubble.

>> No.25778378

>>25777558

PHASE 5.
Bitcoin crashes 70%
Alts crash 99%

>> No.25778396

>>25777718
saved

>> No.25778404

>>25777905
Pretty much. I did that 2 days ago, so far so stable coin. I'm only gonna ride out ETH for a 2x or so, don't wanna be greedy. May dip into Link and then right back into BTC

>> No.25778413

>>25778363
>>25778192
might if we get a double bubble. which means a retrace from here, till maybe ~20k. if it can sustain 20k then that there's room for higher to break 40k.

>> No.25778428

One day soon LINK crypto currency will overtake the Ethirium token.

>> No.25778430

>>25778363
not shitcoins but larger caps they WILL and already did! look at grayscale they own xrp,eth,ltc,... this has also happend in 2017

>> No.25778435

>>25777718
>you'll only end up going down 50% if you hodl through altseason

>> No.25778441

>>25778324
>You think you are speaking to all LINKers right now
>Make up a strawman because you're a retard
Take a chill pill, the only thing that has ever mattered is what you can turn crypto into. LINK will regain its sats and gwei values in a couple weeks. Hopefully by ascending through the stratosphere in USD, but maybe ETH and BTC will crash instead.

>> No.25778448

>>25777558
TFW sitting in IOTA, biding my time for the inevitable 20x

>> No.25778456

>>25778448
yikes

>> No.25778458

>>25778378
this part is only for us to know, we get it !

>> No.25778473

>>25778435
if your definition of alt is like SNX or AAVE, yeah. uniswap trash would certainly never recover and go down -90%+ (YFIIIII forks lmao)

>> No.25778500

>>25778456
yeah buying an unpumped top 36 project that has more real-world use than any other coin except ETH is yikes, but dont be sad, this is normal, you need to see it pump 200% before you can confidently buy in

>> No.25778535

>>25778430
Their shitcoin/scamtoken positions are insignificant compared to BTC&ETH.
Big money funds are 80% or 90% BTC&ETH and just holding for 1-2 more halvings.
shitcoins/scamtokens are for small money gamblers, crypto-specific funds (3AC for example), and suckers

>> No.25778542

>>25778500
I saw it do that in 2017. I did buy in. I also sold again after I saw what a shitshow that project is. You do you though. Some lessons can be more expensive than others.

>> No.25778562

>>25778287
I don't know about that. I think Bitcoin is going to $150-$200k before the end of the secondary cycle and Eth to around $20k. I'm more interested to see where Link will go, but I keep a decent amount of Eth.

>> No.25778566

>>25778500
>top 36 project

>> No.25778584

>>25778535
no its not!! because that pumps my bags and in the search of more profits i relocate my portfolio to other coins, it is a part of greed. everybody always wants more and more.

>> No.25778606

>>25778562
buy ADA it will pump hard in march then sell the news

>> No.25778630

>>25778584
Yes, then you get caught with your pants down when the big money allocated 80%-90% BTC&ETH for a multi-year hold and your "other coins" get rekts on the BTC&ETH ratios.

>> No.25778645

>>25777718
This is what scares me the most. I know I have to sell, but I'm so emotionally attached to link that thinking about selling some literally causes me anxiety since I know how valuable the tokens are

>> No.25778661

You guys have this all wrong. This time around is about big money picking winners not a repeat of the ICO scams. It’s not about random shit going parabolic, it’s not about timing tops. It’s about quality projects and iron hands.

>> No.25778705

>>25777558
Best performing coin in the past 24 hours in the top 100 is Bitcoin Diamond.
I fear we are in phase 4 gentlemen.

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>>25777718

>> No.25778726

>>25778606
if u look at ADA/ETH, u can buy march 1 and sell at 0.005 a few months later literally every single year. super easy trade but I'm sure CT wont catch it

>> No.25778752

>>25778661
> b-b-b-but this time is different
i honestly feel bad man

>> No.25778761

>>25777718
Wrong. The investors are more sophisticated now and the markets have more effective price discovery mechanisms. Especially with ETH futures coming out soon big players will hedge with futures instead of dumping spot. Crypto has evolved and trading seven days a week 24 hours a day has helped the market develop even quicker. Compare that to boomshit stocks that trade seven hours a day five days a week.

>> No.25778773

>>25777718
Sells a few months early and misses another 10x gain while scared of a 50% loss kek

>> No.25778787

This won't happen again. Not like in 2017. You won't get 100x from a random shitcoin on some obscure exchange. Bagholders of 2017 shitcoins will never recover their massive -99% losses. Get into the big boys and don't get greedy. Speculation phase is ending and the pumps are modest now. BTC will peak at around 60k.

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>>25778661
Indeed. The new definition of "alt szn" is:
a temporary relief rally from underperformance on the BTC&ETH ratios
People aren't going to fall for the shitcoin/scamtoken marketing to the same extent as the last bubble.

>> No.25778820

>>25778787
maybe not 100x i know. but 10x or 20 x is still possible because the market is still small

>> No.25778822

>>25777974
Bitcoin. Then the Top10, then madcaps 20-50, then shitcoins, then low sat shitcoins. That’s the order Bitcoin domiance will likely go to 74-78% first though bitcoin ain’t done, Wether we go up or down dominance will increase Until btc tops

>> No.25778839

>>25778661
Yes but you're assuming big money doesn't act stupid. Alt season will come but right now, we're just beginning the Phase 1 and 2 phase overlap.

>> No.25778851

>>25777718
>>25777765
>>25778105
Yeah bro. Fuck those retards but just so I know you’re one of us, how will you know when the top is close?

>> No.25778856

>>25778726
Every year, even in bear markets?
Currently 1 ADA is 0.00024198 ETH. Thats a 20x.
Can you point some chart showing it? Got me curious.

>> No.25778875

>>25778851
copycats start popping up like crazy
u saw this with yfi/token farming, and more recently u saw this w algo stables

>> No.25778882

man I miss August

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>>25778815

>> No.25778912

>>25778851
when i hear it in a taxi, or when my hair gets cut.

>> No.25778914

>>25778875
This is not the answer he's looking for. I'm not giving you the answer though. You might just want to go back.

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>>25778914
ok bro, i dont think you know much abt selling tops cons you're in link still anyway
>>25778856
sorry 2x. not a huge trade but on 1.5-2x lvg using third-half of ur account it's easy eth profit

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25778950

>>25777772
I know bro, can't take this shit anymore.
I NEED IT TO PUMP NOW!

>> No.25778952

>>25778896
big money and institutions are not going to touch shit unless it's listed on Paypal, CME, etc.

>> No.25778978

>>25778912
You know that Joe Kennedy quote was a fabrication to cover his insider trading, right?

>> No.25778998 [DELETED] 

>>25778947
Link's just feeling started.

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>>25778978
And yet my college professor on economics, subtly shilled ADA kek.

>> No.25779060

>>25778978
yes but this is how you know the bubble will pop

>> No.25779146

>>25778947
I have no interest in selling Link. When it hits $400 I might. Enjoy your Nano gains

>> No.25779186

bros I super fuucked up by buying alts mainly VEN and ALGO, should I liquidate them and buy ETH or should I leave it as is

>> No.25779254

>>25779186
leave them, they will pump

>> No.25779336

>>25779146
>LINK will eventually hit $400 but BTC will be $1.4m and I will be down in satoshis
t. brainlet who measures his shitcoins/scamtokens against unlimited-supply USD

>> No.25779363

are we basing all this assumptions only on what happened at the end of 2017 and beginning of 2018?

>> No.25779371

>>25777558
I think we may already be between 2 and 3 but maybe ETH is just starting to moon
>>>25777777

>> No.25779561

>>25778363
>unironically falling for the institutions meme

>> No.25779634

>>25779363
no, it is based on human nature and greed. and the showcase in 2017-18, and later in 2019. people will always chase profits

>> No.25779811

>>25779634
so the psychology being something like people see a parabolic increase in price in one asset class and decide to buy another asset of the same class because they perceive it as cheaper? do you have other examples in other markets?

>> No.25779847

>>25779811
dot.com bubble back in 2000 , and the bubble in 2008 with real estate

>> No.25779963
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25779963

>>25778473
Alt is anything that isn't Bitcoin

>> No.25780437

>>25778705
no we fucking aint

>> No.25780642

>>25778761
The essence of it is still intact although it's improving positively. You will never know when the dump comes, just better be prepared for it.

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25780741

your picks for alt season

>> No.25780809

>>25780741
Tenet

>> No.25780871

>>25778378
THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT, WE HAVE INSTITUTIONS!!

>> No.25780876

>>25780741
XLM
ADA
t.Poorfag praying for so cheeky gainz

>> No.25780885

>>25778851
When normies start talking about it

>> No.25780886

>>25780741

Knackercracker

Knr

>> No.25780919

>>25779963
That is one fucking delicious looking algo steak.

>> No.25780973

>>25780919

he done a number on you

>> No.25780991

>>25778978
Yes but in my experience its fucking true. When I started hearing meatheads out the gym talking about ripple in jan 2018 I knew it was time to sell
>but i didnt

>> No.25781350

>>25780871
Look at the charts. altcoin/BTC pairs started absolutely fucking mooning in March/April 2017 as soon as BTC broke through the previous ATH of ~$1200

We broke through the previous ATH of $20k more than 3 weeks ago. The only action on the shitcoin/BTC and shitcoin/ETH chart we've seen is small relief pumps after serious underperformance.

Last time BTC and ETH didn't have the blessing of Paypal and CME. "BTC killer" and "ETH killer" narratives were still believable back then.

It's unironically different this time. "Allocate 80% to 90% to BTC&ETH and don't be fooled by the shitcoin/scamtoken marketing. Hodl until the next halving" are much stronger and more proven memes this time.

>> No.25781395

>>25780741
ADA,FLM,LINK,DOT,ETH

>> No.25781569
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25781569

>>25781395
The macro environment is also different this time.
The Fed was slowly raising interest rates all throughout 2016/2017/2018. They weren't doing QE either.
Now we have 0% interest rates, QE, and ongoing historic USD devaluation.

>> No.25781769

>>25781569
true that, this is a big factor

>> No.25781785

>>25777558
Since when isn't ETH an alt?

>> No.25781889

>>25777558
>altcoins with strong fundamentals
this is some reddit talk right there

>> No.25782034

>>25780741
VET
GRT

>> No.25782132

>>25780741
GRT and Algo

>> No.25782247

>>25781785
ngmi

>> No.25782638

>>25780741
LGCY
RSR

>> No.25782651

>>25778030
How's life in 2015, buddy?

>> No.25782671
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>>25780741
Fastswap, uniswap style exchange 160k market cap

>> No.25782760

>>25778278
>went up in dollar value
Investing in alts is taking on more risk and getting lower returns for it.

Even if you're increasing in USD, it's only noteworthy if you're beating the index (BTC).

>> No.25783335

>>25777772
>Still have plenty of time to fill shitcoin bags for alt season

yeah im thinking based