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Is drinking degenerate? How much do drink daily or even weekly? I never feel right unless I'm drinking a little

>> No.25528337

I drink about once a week to take the gf out

>> No.25528341

>>25528304
0

>> No.25528386

>>25528304
>Is drinking degenerate?
Are we on the wrong board again /pol/?

>> No.25528406

every day. i try to keep it under 4 beers or drinks but i usually fail.

>> No.25528440

>>25528304
1-2 times a week I'll have 9-12 drinks @ 27

I really should be cutting it back. Luckily I'm in good health

>> No.25528484

There is nothing wrong with drinking yourself to death

>> No.25528488

>>25528304
I usually drink about twice a month in an intense drinking session/day night out. It’s great but I do feel like shit the next day. I would like to give this up but I have a wide social circle and I’m unsure the benefits to giving up would outweigh the gains.

>> No.25528563

I'm giving it up for the foreseeable future. Had my last drink on NYE. I can't handle it like I used to and it's started to cause some family issues.

>> No.25528613

I drink a bottle of wine each night for health purposes.
On a weekend, I'll start with a martini, then my bottle of red (health purposes) and wash it down with two or three stiff cognacs (medicinal reasons)

>> No.25528643

>>25528337
>>25528406
>>25528440
>>25528484
>>25528488
Is daily drink degen? I used to drink a lot but cut back so much, because it was interfering with work, school, and gf/family. Wondering if one can balance daily drinking and regular life.

>> No.25528685

>>25528643
what do you think?

>> No.25528713

I was becoming alcoholic, had to quit. Been sober like 14 months now.

>> No.25528724

drinking is fine if you strictly follow 3 rules
1) never more than 14 drinks in a week
2) never more than 6 in a night
3) at least 1 day each week with no alcohol

>> No.25528767

>>25528304
When I do drink it's no more than a small glass or two of fine whiskey.
Maybe once every few months.
Got nothing against responsible drinking, but people who get drunk every week/month are nothing but degenerates.

I'm also on some heavy medication that would kill me if I had too much alcohol.

>> No.25528777

>>25528304
I haven’t drank in a long time, and my writing has suffered.
I toyed with the idea of starting drinking for my New Years resolution, but writing is the only thing I like about drinking and alcohol sucks otherwise.

>> No.25528791

drinking is just like cocain - all fun, but if it sneaks to be part of your daily life you have a problem

>> No.25528793

>>25528724
if you have trouble keeping to these rules, take 3 months of total abstinence

>> No.25528824

>>25528724
You are going to die young, or have severe health problems in old age.
I can 100% guarantee it.

>> No.25528851

I drink once a month, wtf why are you alcholics?

>> No.25528924

every now and again, I think I am going to try and not drink this january though. my mind always feels clearer when I drink no alcohol at all.

>> No.25528968

>>25528613

What health purpose is there to drinking a bottle of wine a day lol?

>> No.25529007

>>25528851
This, once a month works for me

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>>25528643
idk but my dad does it and hes a lot quieter now.

>> No.25529021

>>25528643
yes

>> No.25529023

>>25528767


This medication is gonna kill you. I guess you are on ssri or maos

>> No.25529048

i drink daily because im an alcoholic and want to die

>> No.25529073

>>25528724
>>25528767
>>25528777
>>25528851
2019 was a terrible year for me, and the isolation of 2020 has been a blessing for me. Investing after the stock market crash of March of 2020, as well as the isolation that COVID has provided allowed me to invest in myself (health, family, god) as well as financially in a way I am eternally grateful. Yet, I still feel that I'm not myself unless I drink. When I come to /biz/ sometimes I feel like there are a lot of people who are like me, finally

>> No.25529091

>>25529023
Nah mate, it's methotrexate. I need it.

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>>25528304
Normally I'll drink Fri-Sun - about a case of beer's worth - every week. The last 6 months have been dry though because chemo. Just finished my last round not long ago and should be hopping back on the wagon next week.

>> No.25529197

>>25529048
I did that. I actually died for a few seconds. Did it cure me? No. Nothing can.

>> No.25529198

>>25528304
i feel like I'll go scizho if I drink

>> No.25529223

>>25528304
I'm an alcoholic. Currently sober.
Drink one for me OP

>> No.25529257

>>25528304
I worked in a pub for three years, all I can say is everything in moderation. I go for months without drinking, I don't need it. At the same time humans have had breweries almost as long as we've had the means to grow the grains that feed them; there's nothing wrong with having a good time now and again.

>> No.25529276

>>25529144
Are you okay?

>> No.25529284

>>25528304
Actual alcoholic here. I’m trying to do a dry January and tonight is the first one I can remember without alcohol. Really hard right now but you guys are correct about drinking everyday—it’s degen as fuck.

It starts off as a “relaxer” after work and ends up being required to relax. Such a slippery slope and no one sees it coming. Furthermore, society laughs and accepts this fact in most social situations, which is really fucking crazy. Same thing with weed now.

Covid has hit hard and I’ve been blacking out once every two weeks, usually waking up with unknown bruises. Don’t be like me anons, not worth it.

>> No.25529293

>>25528643
I drink 3-4 beers every night

If I start to go above that (tolerance building) I take a break for a couple weeks.

Idk I'm fine and it doesn't interfere with my life at all.

>> No.25529292

1-2 days a week I'll drink. Typically don't get drunk or wasted though. A hard night for me would be like 3 or 4 drinks on a Saturday.

>> No.25529314

>>25528304
I’m a functional alcoholic. I met my BF by being so verbally smooth while I was drunk. He likes the way I ramble on about history, and how I’m open about being an eco-fascist.

>> No.25529322

>>25529223
I'll do one better and pour one out for you. People like you who browse /biz/ have improved my life. Thank you

>> No.25529348

>>25528304
Used to binge drink heavily in college at a party school. Now I don’t ever drink because I get terrible hangovers

>> No.25529452

>>25529314
you will never be a woman.

>> No.25529486

>>25529452
I don’t want to be a woman
I just want my cock between my best friends legs and cuddle while watching adventure time

>> No.25529516

>>25529314
Yer gay

>> No.25529529

>>25529322
based
yep pretty much got drank almost every day for a couple years. A few benders lasted several days where I even had meetings and shit. Somehow ended up surviving and I take it one day at a time.

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>>25529276
Oh, you bet, bud! 2020 was a fucking terrible year, but I've been cured of cancer. The whole experience has changed me for the better. I've always been a high-achiever, but I forgot about truly living and working toward a higher purpose.
I feel great to have been given another chance to make the most of life. I hope you make it, fren

>> No.25529572

>>25529091

Oh..

>> No.25529592

Used to binge once a week or fortnight. Cut that out in my mid 20s. Will have a few drinks when I catch up with mates but with covid that's pretty rare. Be careful with the drink, kids. I have a corporate work life and I've seen people ruin themselves. It's grim.

>> No.25529601

This is biz related imo. Quit drinking and smoking weed in March. Feel great. More productive in my business. More energy. More confidence. Less depression. It's harder to get laid because most thots wanna get drunk and fuck though. I'm done being a degenerate so that doesn't matter to me anymore.

>> No.25529607

>>25528613
based

>> No.25529611

>>25528304
Daily. Usually around 6 drinks (i.e. full six pack, bottle of wine, several drams of scotch or bourbon). I space it out over the course of 6 hours so it's mostly metabolized by the time I lay my head to rest.

I pepper in 40 days of sobriety every year to commemorate Jesus' resisting temptation on his desert sojourn.

>> No.25529622

>>25528304
if hitler saw you browsing 4chan he would have you lined up and shot, don't kid yourself niggerfaggot.

>> No.25529643

>>25528304
2 drinks a day for me 5 days a week. Usually also smoke weed once a week also

>> No.25529708

>>25528304
I never drink. I only drink when I somehow end up on a party or a place that serves drinks, but now I've started to refuse on these occasions as well. Not that these occasions are frequent...
I think Nietzsche's approach to alcohol makes sense.

>> No.25529710

Bro’s recommend me some good wine
I drank shitty Stella Rosa. I didn’t even feel slightly buzzed, I had to check the bottle to make sure I even bought alcoholic wine.

>> No.25529806

>>25528613
I too drink a bottle of wine for per night for health purposes

t. Med that makes wine at home

>> No.25529845

>>25528968
It makes me happy. I often enjoy it with friends that also love wine. There is much to be said for a routine. And much satisfaction in building a cellar.
I think that makes it good for one's health.

>> No.25529922
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>>25528304
Alcohol is literally poison.
I've done a lot of drugs; alcohol is by FAR the worst of them.

It turns you into a smooth brain.
And destroys your other organs.

Seriously, don't put that shit into your body.
Not even occasionally.
Not even "Just every once in a while".
Never.

>> No.25529999

Drinking is haram. No drinking. Thanks for the higher than necessary car insurance rates, drinkies

>> No.25530050

>>25528304
I don't drink, it's a waste of money. I'll have a glass of Champagne for Christmas, but that's about it.

>> No.25530326

I’m day 1 no drinking. Had 9 months sober then started drinking again this past summer. Alcohol is hell when abused. I come from a long line of alcoholics. Many privileged American communities will condone and encourage drinking alcohol among males from a very young age.

>> No.25530371

>>25528304
I usually drink a bottle (70cl) of vodka a week. I used to be a casual stoner, but I had to quit due to drug testing.

>> No.25530381

>>25528304
Add up yr alcohol purchases for the last year and then 10x it.

>> No.25530505

>>25529806
>drink a bottle of wine for per night for health purposes
It's a glass a night anon.
A glass.
1 glass.

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>>25530505
That's what you think

>> No.25530958

>>25529708
whats Neetche's approach to alcohol?

>> No.25531261

>>25530326
yeah watch the hard stuff. I used to enjoy sipping quality beers to unwind. Made a huge mistake when I decided they cost too much, ended up downing liquor for a couple months and was hallucinating for days when I tried to stop.
Also didn't really believe the stories and didn't know you could hallucinate like that and I thought there was no way its alcohol, these are actual real demons, so I was legit scared for like 72 hours, running away from people in a hospital even bc I thought the shit talking to me was supernatural and of course it knew more than a nurse

>> No.25531322

>>25528304
No room in my life for drinking, honestly. You can't get good at anything if you're spending a third of your week either preparing to drink or recovering from drinking. It's a really terrible habit.

You won't get in good physical shape, can't build good productive habits, and will kill your existing relationships if you continue to use alcohol.

How many of you anons have ever woken up from a night of drinking and said "wow that was a good idea"?

>> No.25531373

>>25530958
To paraphrase: alcohol corrupts the mind; an escape from reality and the challenges it throws at us. Nietzsche strongly saw challenges in life as something to be overcome and as a test for our capabilities, which means consuming alcohol is neglecting your duty to better yourself.
Of course, it's very radical what he said but it's technically a big fuck you to alcoholics and frivolous parties. He was the ultimate hermit in his later lifetime, so that's to be considered when you think about his view.

>> No.25531385

>>25528304
>Is drinking degenerate?
Yes.
Anyone who says otherwise is bullshiting.
That doesn't mean you can't drink and make money at the same time.
I do think that it correlates with impulse spending.
It comes down to how much you value your spiritual wealth.

>> No.25531501

Quit drinking as soon as you can, start drinking once a week (twice if Friday/Saturday, just avoid weekdays) and reduce from there. Switch beer for non-alcoholic beer, it made a hell of a difference for my sleep quality. I got to a point where I was drinking 1L beer a day, gained weight and one day my girlfriend just asked me if I thought I was drinking too much. I went to sleep fucked up every night and woke up like complete crap every morning.

>> No.25531649

>>25528304
I drink water homie and only water, occasionally I will have a beer or a nice whiskey if i wanna celebrate but that's less than twice a year

>> No.25531669

I usually quit for months at a time, but when I do drink, it's only during special occasions and on the weekends. Drinking anymore than that and you're asking for trouble.

>> No.25531688

>>25528304
>Is drinking degenerate
What, is this a joke?
Ask me if Ketamine is degenerate

>> No.25531724

I stopped drinking a couple months ago because of some health issues, and I honestly haven't missed it.

>> No.25531889

>>25528304
waste of money. alcohol and coffee (home brewed costs more than 0 dollars) are the BIGGEST sources of wasted money involving consumables

>> No.25532388

2-4 beers or ciders a day.

>> No.25532640
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I drink a bottle of red wine a night and vodka on the weekends. Im successful. I wake up early and grind all day. I do not trust anyone who can't handle booze. If you have a problem, you're probably the real problem, and not the booze.

>> No.25532713

>>25529284
yeah, a better way to feel good after/during work is to meditate and exercise daily and get good sleep, but people are too scared of making positive changes in their lives most of the time.

>> No.25532901

>>25528304
3 years sober. best decision I ever made, financially and otherwise

>> No.25532920

>>25528304
I’m 7 weeks sober as of Sunday.

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>>25528304
0.

I might have one beer/whiskey few times a year with good friends but drinking is the relic of our times and should be abolished.

Take a glorious/iron pill and pray in the temple of iron.

>> No.25533009

>>25529284
look into disulfiram if you're serious about quitting, it entirely removes the option to drink

>> No.25533022

>>25529845
Good for one's health a glass every now and then but not drinking for the sake of enjoyment you degen. :D

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>>25529922
based
>>25530505
a glass a day is pure alcoholism you degenerate

>> No.25533310

>>25528613
Based and healthpilled

>> No.25533575

Opioid withdrawal can be fatal from electrolyte imbalance but alcohol withdrawal is a different beast. When you start needing it to sleep, slow down or stop entirely.

>> No.25534054

>>25528304
A six pack a week on average, probably less. When I’m out being social with friends I like getting recked though. I can hold my liquor because I’m a pretty big guy...

>> No.25535058

>>25528304
i used to drink a lot when i was dating, i'd even sneak drinks sometimes at work and shit. i don't feel addicted but obviously that's kind of sketchy
so this year, after being super depressed the past few months and drinking so much on 12/31 that i passed out and puked for hours, i decided to not drink this year. idk if this will be forever but i know i can make it (besides, i'm not done smoking weed and i smoke that shit daily)

>> No.25535169

>>25531261
>ended up downing liquor for a couple months and was hallucinating for days when I tried to stop.
jesus christ

>> No.25535359

>>25531261
>>25535169

How much and how long have you been boozin? I kill a fifth of vodka in 3-4 days for 8 years.

>> No.25535388

>>25535359
I've cold turkeyed for weeks just because work got too busy and I couldn't afford not sleeping and I hated working too hungover.

>> No.25535564

>>25535359
not the guy i quoted but i'm lucky i'm a lightweight. i usually can't drink more than 3 pints of an IPA in a 3 hour window without destroying my night, so if i do spend a day drinking during corona it's typically just a pint every two hours or so lmao
i recently got a fifth of whiskey and finished it in 3 days which was bad, i haven't bought a bottle since then because it scared me and i figured beer is better because it makes me fat and i don't want to be fat so i'm less motivated to drink and more so to work out

>> No.25535624

Drank my twenties into oblivion. I tried to learn how to drink in a responsible social manner for over a decade and never got the hang of it. Been sober for 2 years and its been the most productive i’ve ever been.

>> No.25535746

>>25535564
Vodka is cleaner and has less of a toxic impact that whiskey does. It depends on your body and how it breaks down and filters your system.

I drank 3 shots of burban and ate carbs and my lymph nodes were fucking sore the next day for hours until I could flush myself out and get vitamin D and good oils in Mr.

I suggest taking vitamin d3 after a night of boozing, very good anti inflammation benefit, and omega 3 is very good as well.

If you drink, lay off the carbs and sugars. It just makes your liver have to pick and choose more work to be done and the longer the alcohol takes to be fully processed, the more damage it does through the compounds that are toxic needing to be broken down but still just swim idle in you.

Good luck, stay healthy and get yearly liver checkups.

>> No.25535770

One drink is being social. Two drinks is being friendly. Three drinks is being foolish.

>> No.25535801

I have been drinking maybe 3-4 times and every time I drink, I think it taste like a piss. Even beer which is so common these days in the media and culture doesn't taste good at all.

I can not understand why I should drink just because some other pretend enjoying it and became a tradition. Interestingly, I am living in the Vegas and before Covid was going to the clubs every weekend and had fun and girls offered me free drinks, but I refused and had to explain why I don't drink.

>> No.25535844

lol drunkies

ngmi

>> No.25535883

>>25535801
what was your explanation and what was their response?

>> No.25535894
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I get pretty slammed on Saturday nights, but it's really just a boredom thing. If I have something that keeps me busy all weekend (rare) I don't feel the need to drink at all.

>> No.25536237

>>25535169
at the problem time the fifth was mostly gone in a day but not quite, so I guess about 4x your rate.
anyway the problem is when you stop. I could keep going till I die at whatever rate sure. but shit gets bad when you stop.
also I would just straight up go to a rehab now that I know. They will wait until you are at 0% and start giving you benzos or there's other stuff too since those are dangerous themselves, but from what I learned it hits the same part of the brain so its like stepping down your amount and then they step you down off that too, and you should be good in a week.

>> No.25536253

>>25535801
>I think it taste like a piss
for me beer didn't taste good until i made my tongue more sensitive to complex flavors, which i mostly did by drinking black coffee every day for a few months. after this you'll notice much more complexity in bitter tastes, now i only really like ipas when before i used to mostly drink like corona because it was refreshing and mostly tasteless

>>25535746
good advice anon. i'm gonna try to not drink all year but should i fold for whatever reason i'll keep all this in mind

>> No.25536268

>>25535883
Many times, they booed at first and made fun of me for not drinking. Then, I told them I am trying to quit because of medical problems as my doctor instruction. Later they didn't care too much as most of them were drunk after 2-3 shots and just wanted to grind or kiss and touch your dick.

Also usually, there was a group of girls approaching and talking me up to get friendly and then ask me to buy them a drink, but when I didn't, they would get mad and leave. Seems it is a competition among them to see how many boys they can get to buy them a drink.

>> No.25536280

>>25528304
5-10 times a year. 1 protein shake a day though.

>> No.25536294

>>25536237
>anyway the problem is when you stop. I could keep going till I die at whatever rate sure. but shit gets bad when you stop.
i don't have an experience close to yours but i have had weird body issues since my binge on 12/31, my colon randomly started spasming (below my stomach) every once in a while and it's barely started to subside. my head has felt foggy since and my appetite has been way worse. honestly this experience is why i think i'm done with alcohol, at least for this year, but likely for a long time. it just doesn't seem worth it

>> No.25536389

>>25528304
Absolutely degenerate.

Drinking makes you fat, ugly and unironcally gives you soft erections and cuts dick size down. Also raises estrogen levels, drinking beer is literally cuck and S 0 Y, but sure anon drink the jew

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>>25528791
Fuck, that's me but with cannabis.

>> No.25536667

Literally sipping on an IPA right now watching my gains. "Trad" and "straight edge" is just a cope for larping incels. Nothing cool about being a sober gopher

>> No.25536723

>>25528304
Daily, ever since Rona hit. Just a few after work helps me feel right... I really need to stop though. Even when it's just a little bit, I feel like the daily habit starts to take its toll on you.

>> No.25536771

>>25536631
me too, and with work from home for almost a year now i have literally been baked 24/7 for 10 months straight. it's not great, i can at least afford the multiple zips i smoke every two months, but my lungs have been feeling like shit so i'm also trying to take a t break for a week or so and then limiting smoking going forward, preferring my vape over my bong when i can

i will say though, at least personally, i don't feel much different this week from not smoking so far but it's so habitual for me. def feel the urge to grab the bong randomly while i browse and realize it's not here and i shouldn't be smoking rn

>> No.25536774

>>25528643
My grandfather drank every day and he died with the age of 54 so i don't recommend it.

>> No.25536809

Obviously its bad you moron whyd you make this thread if you didn't already know this just take some psychedellics in nature every once in a while and you won't desire degenerate bullshit (in excess balance is key but yes you're drinking too much)

>> No.25537105

3 drinks a week probably unless I’m going out or drinking with friends then that’s another 7-15. Rarely drinking with friends since Rona tho

>> No.25538045

a few on the weekend, got polluted over Christmas but going to slow it way down in Jan