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25449722 No.25449722 [Reply] [Original]

Ok I'm not sure but I think I may have something, ill be the first to admit I'm new to this, but I don't think I'm stupid...
It all started about 30 mins ago when I wanted to find out how many times BTC is being tweeted now vs 2017, I didn't even get that far into the numbers because I came across a tweet who was reporting a whale. I followed the link to https://whale-alert.io/transaction/bitcoin/0193679fd6744a476845889bdb5eaf7004b31e4f30c23a6b411027e4055430c4/1 Pic rel.
I decided to dig deeper and followed the from/to wallet links to Block chair (link/ pic below). As well as searching for the wallet number and going to blockchain.com Turns out this 350 btc whale has been buying and selling the exact number of coins over and over again for quite some time. Both from and to wallets created a year ago. This is where my research has come to at this point, I have no idea what this means maybe I'm a dope and this is normal idk but I want some smarter people than me to have a look and do some digging.

Fucking 4chan was meant to be the home of weaponised autism? I haven't seen any real research or effort put into a single post just a bunch of memes and opinions. Get cracking and godspeed anons

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From wallet https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1q8h67dytup75uurg9jpj32mtudrauraf2fd7lnp

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to wallet https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1qxv9vek0xts9ktv0l06a6stsx404cps9n4dsew8

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from wallet https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q8h67dytup75uurg9jpj32mtudrauraf2fd7lnp

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to wallet https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qxv9vek0xts9ktv0l06a6stsx404cps9n4dsew8

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>>25449722
what does this mean

>> No.25450023

>>25449920
it means Op is Austistic

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>>25450023

>> No.25450089

someone should tell op...

>> No.25450102

>>25450089
he doesn't know...

>> No.25450125

someone is trying to shake someone off, he's just moving it around?

>> No.25450130

>>25450089
I'll quit posting forever and just lurk if this is just an institutional wallet doing what it does or something....

>> No.25450134

Love the initiative OP keep it up.
I remember when the vampire-thing on Uniswap happened. First threads about it on biz was drowned and ignored. Probably because no one actually understood what was happening. IS the vampire stuff still happening? I don't know honestly.

Anyway this might be someone doing arbitrage? With constant fees and large amounts it could be a good profit.
Is it the same 350BTC rollin around or does their stack seem to be bigger but this is what they send?

>> No.25450148

You're a fucking idiot anon this is most likely just one of their company addresses that they use to store and transfer btc. Someone requests a withdraw out of another address and this one is used to collect the change, someone wants another withdraw and they send out of this one and drop the change into another similar address. There's no way of positively proving selling/buying on the blockchain you tard. Every company dealing with bitcoin deposits has addresses like these.

>> No.25450158

>>25450134
No their stack always goes to 0

>> No.25450179

>>25450130
Feels like a bot/market maker.

>> No.25450252

>>25450130
whales do this to make volume and increase hype
you also can swing trade this way every time it takes out its initial investment it accumulates more
he also has a bot set up so it can keep it going on loop
guys making mulah

>> No.25450270

>>25449722
Where the hell is Willy the Whale or WalletAutistic? Who remembers their posts?

>> No.25450312

can a whale here PLEASE tell me what their next step of their masterplan is

i don't want to be in the crash please, there will be no survivors

>> No.25450333

>>25449722
nothing suspicious OP, considering 90% of the volume in crypto is fake, you just caught one bot in the wild

>> No.25450359

I'm going to quit browsing /biz/, this is pure pajeet country. Nobody here even knows how btc works and just shills random shit all day.

>> No.25450363

>>25449722
bump

>> No.25450376

All the trades are between wallets created 1 year ago, which all have approx the same number of trades in that time 7700

>> No.25450407

>>25450359
I said I don't understand. I do understand its a bit weird for the same wallets to send roughly the same amounts of bitcoins exclusively to each other, roughly the same amount of times over a period of 1 year?

>> No.25450483

Same shit as usual just a bunch of opinions and whining, I didn't just find some guy buy and selling random btc on swings, its to and from the same wallets, all of which total volume is basically the same, which means none of them have traded with any other wallets. How is that just normal? the trades are within an hour of each other

>> No.25450514

>>25450407
Because that's how bitcoin works you idiot. You always "spend" the entire amount in an address, the change simply goes back to an address that is in the same wallet that you control.

Look at the outflows that are consistent with retail-sized withdrawals with rounded off amounts. Next-block fees every time. This is their hot wallet that they use to pay off small user withdraws.

If you took out all your money from your wallet with $100 every time you had to pay someone, your spending activity would look very similar and a retard watching your hands would conclude that you seemed to always spend $100 multiple times a day.

>> No.25450616

>>25450514
so go to the link and look at recipients and show me where he is "spending" it and show me which wallet is holding the change? all of his transactions are just his wallets and the miners

>> No.25450650

>>25449722
https://twitter.com/whale_alert

You can also see it there

>> No.25450698

>>25449722
You're likely a fucking idiot. Moving wallet to wallet isn't buying or selling.

>> No.25450724

>>25450130
we need people like you anon, don't sweat it

>> No.25450773

>>25450698
OMFG you people are useless. who the fuck shuffles around 12billion between identical wallets without buying or selling? He is at minimum pumping, especially because hes getting mentions on the whale alert twitter. go start following some of the wallets that get mentioned there. where is the autism lol

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>>25450148
ok bro no need to be rude

>> No.25450791

>>25450773
*12 billion over the course of the past 12 months that is...

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>>25449722
Pumping up their fake volume and boosting up their "total deposits" ranking data probably.

>> No.25450828

>>25450773
>where is the autism
back in like 2016

>> No.25450831

>>25450698
Fuck off back to your 110 IQ club, retard

>> No.25450865

OP i thought you were going with how many times BTC had been twitted and were going to produce numbers.

>> No.25450884 [DELETED] 

>>25450791
>>25450796

Chink exchange no one has ever hear of and. claims to e no.1. Also, when people check their address on blockchain explorer and see "9 quadrillion sent and spent" it will create an illusion of more secure and trustworthy place.

>> No.25450961 [DELETED] 

>>25450698
You'd be surprised, they manipulate data every way they can just to be in the no.1 spot. Somewhere on their site it most likely says "our costumers trusted us wit over 100000 bitcoins" where in fact they were just "wash trading"

>> No.25450995 [DELETED] 

>>25450961
the same btc over and over again

>> No.25451095

>>25449722
It’s called a change address buddy. When you send a Bitcoin transaction it sends the amount you send and also the remaining balance to a new address controlled by the private key.

It is a bitcoin exchanges wallet. They are sending out user withdrawls and the remaining balance of the hot wallet is sent to their change address. You simply don’t understand how Bitcoin works

>> No.25451111

Why isn't anyone cross referencing large buys with institutional announcements on whale alert and then finding institutional wallets and tracking them? I really can't be bothered but if no one else is...

>> No.25451134

>>25451111
kek I will not be ignored

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>>25451111
>>25451134

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>>25451095
Confirmed my bad, it does appear to be an exchange... not my fault the fucking twitter faggot doesn't do his research before spewing shit.

>> No.25451348

>>25450023
He has the autism but he lacks the fundamental education on blockchain.

>> No.25451425

>>25451195
yeah good one
why don't you do some work and find this transaction and see if they still hold their btc? go to whale alert use the time function in the transaction search and find the 650mil they spent in December.

>> No.25451543

>>25451348
I don't think I'm autistic, I just want to be on the cutting edge of something lol delusions of grandeur

>> No.25451561

>>25451220
No problem bud, keep being autistic you may find something important

>> No.25451746

>>25451543
>he doesn't know

>> No.25452025

Why the fuck is whale alert tweeting out fucking exchanges wallet swapping all the time but they can't find and track institutional buys, their twitter is literal junk. Big buyers wallets should be public knowledge.

>> No.25452039

>>25452025
it's prolly just a bot

>>25451220
where'd you find this pdf?

>> No.25452261

>>25452039
Yeah, I guess big institutions write them an email sayin we'll sue you if you tweet our transactions. All the big buys I'm looking at just seem to be exchanges, and thats going back to mid dec.
follow the breadcrumbs https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/aaad7ffc63d81e21b6f8e244b527d41d23f424da45ad6bfb97cff2999e3d4fd9

>> No.25452701

Found a whale bought 14k btc in may '19 and just sold 28/12.20

>> No.25452845

another one bought 10k BTC 04/19 sold 12/20

>> No.25453001

>>25452701
wut wallets?

>> No.25453015
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So sender buys in 04/19 does a few minor trades and some mining, then offloads the whole lot to receiver who just opened their wallet on the day they bought a few days ago... is that another normal thing, what am I missing

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Fuck bros another one bought 11k bitcoin 04/19 no action on the wallet until 6 days ago when sold to brand new wallet. I'm also starting to notice patterns with the wallet addresses...

>> No.25453247

>>25453160
keep me posted anon, i am very interested in the whale patterns.

>> No.25453262

"bc1" is the first 3 characters in many of the wallets, are the wallets all random? I saw some mining wallets that definitely weren't random. Could it be an institution or exchange? if so why would the btc sit in one wallet for so long? also on those last 2 pdfs I posted the values are radically different, in the first they are the same, is that showing the price at purchase for the sender? that doesn't make sense

>> No.25453427

>>25453262
POST THE TRANSACTION CODE

>> No.25453451

Could be a lot of things. Probably wash trading to make it appear as if someone really trade this market. You see, crypto is a joke, only exchanges and Tether move this market, institutions are a meme. 95% of volume is fake

>> No.25453485

>>25451095
why does the remaining balance have to be transferred to a new wallet?

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>>25453247
Dude I need help not encouragement...
I'm looking at string of 8k+ bitcoin transactions from different wallets all bought on the 24th of may 2019 and offloaded to virgin wallets 6 days ago. and the fucking value is changing somehow. sorry for not going to blockchain uni INC someone explain this please.

>> No.25453585

>>25453160
b770ff0cd72a6c9a2d0619082a376dfcc61ceaa6fd9c3ab96b70d47de09067b4

>>25453520
e57bfadc67040736c68905bc737911736d05479477a77b544e8b280ed3f0c

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wtf is this thread

>> No.25453742
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25453742

these same wallets connected to all the ones ive been mentioning, it must be a larp or a piss take, surely not... lol

>> No.25453793

go look for yourself https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3KabDvdetZXDHNm9HXowLc9SppiSXKn7UU

>> No.25453896

>>25453742
Spooky, keep digging.

>> No.25454031

>>25453896
Are you taking the piss lol, its obviously just some miners that made those wallets to pop up and spook people that went looking. that doesnt explain the other stuff though

>> No.25454221

https://memo.sv/topic/hmwyda

>> No.25454591

>>25454221
fuck ok well that was fun, but what about the price differences in the receipts and all the brand new wallets buying huge amounts, do exchanges create new wallets when they buy do large buys, if so why is the money just sitting in there?

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>>25454591
i don't know but i saved the stuff, if it's there to be seen it's probably for a good reason,
thanks for the thread op.

>> No.25454717

another one same MO huge buy on the 24th may 19. offloaded to virgin wallet created 6 days ago

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/338uPVW8drux5gSemDS4gFLSGrSfAiEvpX

>> No.25455037

Could the trades have something to do with GSR hedging? it was launched on the 22/04/19

https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/gsr-launches-bitcoin-hedging-product-bitcoin-variance-swap/

>> No.25455064

>>25449722
Its called arbitrage

>> No.25455088

>>25455037
i think whales are just following the trend where january is not nice to crypto and just taking their profits. thats what i would do looking at the historical data. especially noticing that the withdrawals are exactly towards the end of december

>> No.25455089

>>25454717
>>25455037
>>25453520

>calling the 4th month may kys...

>> No.25455237

>>25455088
Its not different people, its the same institution moving billions on the exact same days

>> No.25455304

15k btc moved on the 24/04/19 sold 6 days ago
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3GaB3nRWA1PLc3XQkkbpVtFwYYZEuMxD4i?page=4

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what is this schizo thread

>> No.25455683

>>25455646
literally the most based thread on /biz/
stinky whale is mad, we know you're manipulating the market

LET US HAVE A PIECE OF IT TOO

>> No.25455732 [DELETED] 

>>25449722
sir, this is Wendy's

>> No.25455753

maybe he's laundering btc to make it anonymous

>deposit to exchange
>withdraw
>exchange get the fees
>do it 1000 times with your bot
>now your shady exchange has collected nice amount of fees and theres no record on it on blockchain

>> No.25456101

100 million USDT transferred from Huobi to Bitfinex over 10x 10mil transfers all on the 29/12/20 shortly followed by 100m USDT from bitfinex to Tether treasury, followed by the same trade in reverse and then finally from bitfinex back to Huobi

>what did he mean by that

>> No.25456258

In the midst of all that theres a random 10mil USDT from unknown wallet to bitfinex.

>> No.25456415

bump

>> No.25456535

>>25450359
see you tomorrow fren

>> No.25457202

>>25456535
continue seeing you right now

>> No.25457218

I need some help here again, looking into the weird chink money moves, all at 10mil usdt so I follow the wallets and find the transactions are being done in TRON, problem is, the amount being moved each time is only 3mil tron, which equals $80000 USD not 10mil. The transaction times match up exactly to the whale alert report, also found a chink website alert that says it was 12mil USD moved

>https://whale-alert.io/transaction/tron/f3f0cc01a972e1f72dc5e267868e6aa07ac606e02b8c70c8c24ea78a8276e672
>https://tronscan.org/#/address/TCP5CkoAaEEwYYTtrJzstN1Ny2oRULM692/transactions
>https://www.tokenpost.kr/article-32031

>> No.25457251

I have never owned any cryptoshit in my life, but this thread is interesting.

>> No.25457279

>>25457218
Hey anon can you give me a qrd of this thread?

>> No.25457281

>>25457218
Disregard that last, it was an old transaction between the same 2 accounts. Still no explanation how 80k becomes 10mil. I've probably done something wrong

>> No.25457326

>>25457279
It's a coming of age story about a young guy down on his luck so he decided to get into crypto, and in the process gets sucked into a dark web of corruption and Jewiness.

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>>25450773
That’s the right attitude

>> No.25457400

>>25453723
Autistic free for all

>> No.25457471

Basically the whole first half of the thread is me not understanding what an exchange is, but then I keep looking at transactions and find some weird dates that keep repeating with huge btc exchanges, and funny technical stuff with dollar values changing where they shouldn't and then the chinks got involved too. I need to start a new thread

>> No.25457516

>>25457471
if you do please post the link here

>> No.25457565

>>25449722
Intentionally inflating trading volume is a massive bearish sign imo. Time to get out.

>> No.25457626

Are you guys just talking about wash trading? I've been in alt coins that have had the volume manipulated it's no new thing.

>> No.25457703

>>25450359
Is this the first time you quit?

>> No.25458265

>>25457516
>>25458226