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25441594 No.25441594 [Reply] [Original]

Do you think it will correct? What do you think is in store for Tesla stock over the next ten years?

>> No.25441623

Tesla stock is a store of value.

>> No.25441664

>>25441594
Crab probably, I think holders absolutely adore Elon and it doesn't matter what the fuck happens in terms of profitability.

However, it's overvalued based on traditional means, so it's going to have to earn that market cap over years.

A big pump would make just as little sense as a big dump from here. It'll just sort of exist for a while.

>> No.25441682

I can imagine why people might still think that these are reasonable prices and that it's gonna grow as well but it just doesn't make sense to me. I think it's gonna grow even more just as a fuck you to rational thinking as well as bitcoin but who fucking knows

>> No.25441688

Elon will have a meltdown eventually. It will dump fucking hard. Very little chance of a pump from here it. Risky to hold

>> No.25441704

>>25441594
they will be a more valuable company once they start rolling out home batteries. no reason they can't be top dog sometime after that. but valuation will have to come down as well. if you're buying here you're saying tesla will be significantly more valuable than amazon or youre saying fuck it it's all fake anyways

>> No.25441711

>>25441594
where to buy? uniswap?

>> No.25441777

>>25441688
Same stupid shit was said before the run up from $185 to $2000. You people never learn

>> No.25441867

>>25441777
checked.
stock is obviously overvalued but zoomers and millennials see elon as a god and they will buy no matter what. the bubble will not pop.

>> No.25441959

>>25441711
Funnily enough soon you’ll be able to buy on the Deus Finance platform as a synthetic stock

>> No.25441967

>>25441594
They're getting midwits to pay $100k for a car that's real goal is perfecting vision tech for AGI and drone swarms that will then be used against them. What's not bullish about this?

>> No.25442030

>>25441867
He is a god. Starlink = space lasers. Bow before a true African Kang.

>> No.25442036

>>25441867
the stock is obviously perfectly valued you boomer fossil

>> No.25442120

>>25441867
stock is underpriced by half for realsies

tsla is a disruptive juggernaut, once the 25k electric car comes its over for the auto industry

they're building fatfuck factories and own patents on the latest battery tech...patents on the latest battery tech...

by 2030 tsla will produce the majority of next-generation batteries that will power not only normieshit like phones (through patent licensing) but also it will power all the glowies' robot soldiers, drones, cars and doodads.

tsla 2k 2022

>> No.25442199

>>25441594
Tesla is going to be the biggest company in the world. What do you think that'll do to the stock? Bought in 2019 this is a comfy hold

>> No.25442254

>>25442036
>perfectly valued
based on what? have you seen tesla's profit statements? have you seen their P/E ratio?

>> No.25442257
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25442257

I feel like elon himself said it best

>> No.25442494

>>25441594
(1/2) Very likely not, if anything it might be significantly undervalued. Too early to tell.

I have a theory that self driving cars will essentially be the internet of our generation - massive wealth generators.

Think about it - most of the expense in owning a car is in capital costs. The car itself is expensive to buy, but the cost to operate it is much lower. You only use a car for maybe 1 or 2 hours a day, and there's probably at least a good 10-12 hours where you would most likely never use it (in the evening + when you sleep).

Think about what that would mean. Those 10-12 hours when you aren't using it? That could be wealth being generated in the form of you, an owner of a self driving car, loaning it out to some business while you are not using it.

You can already see this with companies like Uber. Even though it is very expensive to have a physical human driving the car AND there are also additional expenses incurred (mainly additional fuel and additional maintenance), it is still resonably profitable for the driver.

Now, picture that, without the major expense of having to pay a human driver, at scale. Labor is generally always the biggest cost.

Electric cars are also obviously the best choice for this. This is the case even if they stay more expensive than ice cars. Fuel is cheap, and the cost to fuel an electric car will only get cheaper as electricity gets cheaper.

>> No.25442556

>>25442494
Wouldn't the real value be in the company that makes this loan out of your car happen (Uber) rather than the people making the cars (Tesla)?

>> No.25442568

>>25442494
(2/2) Let's say businesses would pay you at least $1 an hour in profit for the use of a self driving car (this is a relatively cheap estimate). According to Google there are 273.6 million cars in the United States.

Let's assume that all of these cars can be used for economic activity while their owners are sleeping, rated at a very conservative net profit of $1 per hour. Multiply 10 hours * 1 an hour * 273.6 million cars * 365 days in a year = $998.64 billion per year in wealth generated.

If we calculate this as a perpetuity with a discount rate of 12% (this makes it a conservative estimate by making the stock market somehow return 4% than the current 8% average), you get $8.3 TRILLION dollars

Tesla's current market cap is currently only 668.91 billion dollars, so roughly 8% of this very conservative estimate of the possible wealth generated in this scenario. Telsa is the company most likely to capitalize on this theoretical opportunity because they make (1) electric cars and (2) self driving cars.

This is my rough napkin math.
But as far as I can tell, assuming this scenario plays out like I predict, which is in my mind both likely and possible, Tesla is extremely undervalued.

>> No.25442611

>>25442494
>>25442568
you guys are acting like google and apple aren't doing the same shit.

>> No.25442648

>>25442611
Google can't even make a fucking watch or a phone.

>> No.25442665

>>25442556
Quite honestly, it's probably a bit of both. And if anything there might be an argument to be made that Uber is also undervalued in this scenario. However, Uber's business is significantly easier to duplicate than Tesla's.

>> No.25442725

>>25442494
>you, an owner of a self driving car
wrong.
when automation is allowed to be pervasive, congress will pass a law which will be written by big tech and the insurance companies. it will be effectively illegal to sublet or own a fully autonomous vehicle as an everyman as the premiums will be more than your mortgage but also cover an entire fleet. you will also be required to purchase insurance to use any autonomous vehicle as a passenger (not mandated by congress, but an effect of the legislation as written by your corporate daddys).

>> No.25442778

>>25442648
neither can apple. neither has innovated anything other than repackaged spyware in nearly twenty years now.

>> No.25442787

>>25441594
Govt bailout

>> No.25442811

>>25442725
Americans would literally overthrow their own government if they ever tried to take away their right to drive a car

>> No.25442970

>>25442568
>>25442494
this is the dumbest shit ive ever heard. uber pays people to drive cars instead of using self driving cars because the cost of paying people wages to drive cars is so tiny in comparison to the cost of making/buying/renting/upkeeping gazillions of their own cars, let alone extremely expensive electric cars. your math is so ridiculous because you're assuming that 273 million electric cars (in addition to the 273 million cars that already exist, that you have to pay to make) will be at full use capacity. and for the consumers, there's a reason why people drive their own fucking shitboxes instead of taking an uber everywhere -- it's way cheaper. shit gas cars are going to be hear to stay for a very very long time.

>> No.25443007

>>25442811
read what i wrote and realize you can't legally drive a car without insurance anywhere in the united states right now. fairly certain it's federal code and tied to federal tax dollars, like the speed limit. it's been that way since when? you look it up. i'm not saying it's right, i'm saying this is where we're going. automation will not be a saving grace.
>americans would literally
give me a fucking break. gunfags have had their shit pushed in for decades and not a shot fired. we've got trannies doing events in public libraries and snipers on the roof trained on angry parents. have you turned on network tv in the last 30 years? americans gave up a long time ago, they're just to proud and hooked on jewish cock to admit it.

>> No.25443092

>>25442665
Once FSD works reliably and can be deployed/"sold" for real- Uber is completely and totally fucked. Tesla cars that owners lend to the taxi network will supercede that business basically overnight. Tesla users will climb over themselves to offer up their car to partially or fully pay for itself while they're at home jacking off. Tesla's stock is nowhere near the top.

2021 will be truly mind-shredding for their stock if they play their cards right. They have multiple factories opening up and they will produce the Semi and the Cybertruck starting this year.

The Semi represents another stab-in-the-heart of an industry; trucking. Tesla trucks will be able to autonomously drive from one spot to another, 24/7, without breaks.

IMO, TSLA in 2025 will be worth 2.5k-3k per at least.

>> No.25443127

>>25442811
Burgers have become Timid little serfs happy to slave away for the Swamp

>> No.25443438

>>25443092
>Tesla cars that owners lend
only direct from production line vehicles will be allowed. no having your car drive poorfags while you're at work, sorry

>> No.25443486

>>25443438
>direct from production line vehicles
Explain

>> No.25443750

>>25443007
I'm not falling for this bait. Short Tesla or something then

>> No.25443905

>>25443486
you'll have to buy a license and/or insurance of some sort to allow your car to drive on it's own and another one for it to drive someone else. they simply won't allow your daily driver to be out on the road with anyone else but you in it. any auto-taxi vehicles will require special identification and large enough fees to make it so that only large-scale fleet operators with direct relationships with the manufacturer will be allowed to offer such services. it'll be tesla, ford, lyft, driving everyone around, not your car while you sleep.

>> No.25443947

>>25441594
Nevada Fag here.
Fun fact. When the planning and development came out for the Giga Factory they did a piss poor horrible job for disposing faulty or bad batteries.

So what they do now is literally throw batteries into shipping containers and then they eventually light on fire, causing the fire department to go out there somewhat frequently.

The company and stock is a joke. That being said if you can make cash on this do it, besides that don't think this company will go anyware