Just in case /biz/ forgot

[Anonymous No.25344365]

Nearly 40% of ALL money was printed THIS year, the derivatives market will start to flow into crypto at the end of January/ beginning of February and at the end of next year the crypto market will have a greater valuation than the stock market (65-100 trillion). We’re gonna fucking make it bro’s. Pick a top 100 coin and hodl and you’ll be a millionaire this time next year and we’ll buy the boomers houses at a discount because of their suicides as their “nest eggs” evaporate. The future is bright anons...

[Anonymous No.25344473]

all printed money is borrowed
what if the borrowed date is short?
market will have a deflation and u'll be fucked

[Anonymous No.25344493]

>>25344473
The central bankers have made it clear they won’t allow deflation of any kind and will turn the printers on overdrive to avoid it

[Anonymous No.25344494]

>>25344365
This is sad, ngl. I really hope the market doesn't crash, but every day I keep getting this passing feeling that it's more and more likely...

[Anonymous No.25344540]

>>25344493
>made it clear
>made
>it
>clear
>goy I promise

[Anonymous No.25344547]

>>25344493
If you allow deflation, it will lead to lowered consumer spending. This will lead to layoffs, which will further lower consumer spending. This will result in an infinite death spiral with the penultimate result being the complete and utter collapse of the entire economy, forever.

God bless the federal reserve.

t. keynesian ;)

[Anonymous No.25344558]

>>25344365
based and hyperinflationpilled

[Anonymous No.25344560]

>>25344547
Hey I’m all for it, I think they’ve finally realised that pumping bitcoin is one way to get the inflation they require

[Anonymous No.25344567]

>>25344547
>layoff
>can't afford
>death
that should fill all the covid death we made up

[Anonymous No.25344674]

>>25344365
Take your meds schizo

[Anonymous No.25344715]

>>25344674
How is this schizo? How can you look at a graph of money being printed and see that 40% of it has been printed in a single year and think that derivatives WONT shift into assets which are non inflationary (precious metals and crypto) the derivatives market is worth 1.2 quadrillion dollar’s btw and for crypto to be worth more than the stock market it just needs 5% of derivatives to shift into crypto

[Anonymous No.25344721]

>be me
>live in Cucknada
>student that worked a part time job one shift over 2019
>barely made the $5000 yearly wage required to qualify for monthly $2000 government handouts
>dumped nearly every cent of it into crypto since march
>now have 100k
>still receiving monthly payments of $2000 from the kikes until march
>gonna dump that all into crypto
am I gonna make it lads?

[Anonymous No.25344759]

>>25344721
Yes bro

[Anonymous No.25344825]

>>25344715
>derivatives market is worth 1.2 quadrillion dollar’s
It isn’t though, the contract value isn’t actual market value worth.

[Anonymous No.25344853]

>>25344715
>crypto
>non-inflationary

pick one retard

[Anonymous No.25344888]

>>25344853
You dumb nigger, you think inflationary means the price goes up, inflationary means you can print more, which you cannot print crypto (most crypto’s)

[Anonymous No.25344897]

>>25344825
Crypto WILL be worth more than the stock market soon

[Anonymous No.25344984]

>>25344560
Fucking the nocoiners with fiat inflation to make the price of bitcoin go up? ALL-IN.
Bitcoin is the new gold to back up central bank shenanigans.

[Anonymous No.25345004]

>>25344825
Do you think the MC is a real value?

[Anonymous No.25345025]

>>25344540
The last time kikes allowed a deflationary spiral to happen, something else happened... if you catch my drift. They’ll print until the end of time

[Anonymous No.25345046]

>>25344715
Its schizo because every moon-boy like yourself thinks they have a golden ticket and outsmarted the system. BTC is useless and ready to crash at any moment, real utility tokens such as ETH and LINK will sustain.

[Anonymous No.25345076]

>>25345046

thanks just shorted BTC

[Anonymous No.25345084]

>>25345004
My point is if you have a $300m fx swap that value of that isn’t $300m. That’s the amount you are hedging against and very rarely would any loses/gains come close to that amount. Market cap is at least a proxy value that m&a activity backs up its closeness.

[Anonymous No.25345115]

>>25345046
>real utility tokens such as ETH and LINK will sustain.
think you've outsmarted the system, eh moonboy?

[Anonymous No.25345118]

>>25344547
Yea, the US permNently collapsed multiple times before the fed.

[Anonymous No.25345147]

>>25344547
all of human history was collapse until the feral reserve saved us.

[Anonymous No.25345300]

>>25345025
that ought to drive all the jews to the holyland this time

[Anonymous No.25345527]

>>25345115
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.25345553]

>>25344547
is there any proof that deflation will lower consumer spending, if the point is that we will save our money why are they giving us 2 grand to spend? the this first point was true people would just save the 2k

[Anonymous No.25345563]

>>25344365
i picked the #3 coin, will i be ok

[Anonymous No.25345582]

>>25344365
>the crypto market will have a greater valuation than the stock market (65-100 trillion)

I'm ded. kek.

[Anonymous No.25345585]

>>25345553
Watch a YouTube video on inflation and deflation and pay extra attention to the part where they speak about money velocity

[Anonymous No.25345611]

>>25344547
> prices are cheaper
> people will consume less
this sounds retarded, if things were cheaper i'd buy more of them more often.

[Anonymous No.25345649]

>>25344365
We criticise Fiat currency for not being backed by anything, but bitcoin ins't backed by anything. In and of itself, its nothing other than a digital means of exchange. But a critical component of a successful means of exchange, one which both fiat currency and crypto currency fail to address, is that it must be a store of value. A store of value meaning that it must have utility that ensures there will always be demand for it. All commodities posses this quality in some way, some much more than others. But only a commodity can be a store of value because in and of itself theres something to store.

The store of value mechanism is absolutely critical to the indirect exchange system and anyone who can understand this concept can amass a large fortune by acting on it.

[Anonymous No.25345667]

>>25345649
Backing currencies with commodities is a meme anyway when we’ve had gold standards in the past the government just prints more tokens relative to gold regardless. What matters about bitcoin is the supply limitation

[Anonymous No.25345680]

>>25345611
That’s not how it works anon

[Anonymous No.25345743]

>>25345649
I would argue Bitcoin is backed by it's network of users, i.e Metcalfe's law.

>Likewise, in social networks, the greater the number of users with the service, the more valuable the service becomes to the community.

I don't believe bitcoin will replace the US dollar anytime soon, but as fiat currency begins to show its weaknesses and people begin to lose faith in it, they will be seeking to move their wealth into something more stable in which governments can't fuck with it. Once the number of bitcoin users/holders in the WORLD is greater than the population of the United States, or even half of the total population of the USA, it's value as a store of wealth because will be stronger than the US dollar. At that point the US govt can't push out any laws or regulations or do anything restricting the use of BTC or risk being shoved out of the market with worthless fiat.

The hard part is determining how many tricks the Feds have up their sleeves to combat this

[Anonymous No.25345791]

>>25345147

It’s also hilarious these central bank supporters think all economic growth is because of them, completely disregarding technological innovations, the industrial revolutions and so on (which are of course invented by the goyim)

[Anonymous No.25345890]

>>25345680
enlighten me then anon

[Anonymous No.25345967]

>>25345791
I've read the great depression wasn't actually caused by outrageous speculation in stocks nor was it bubble, as the increase in stock price was justified for the immense amount of efficiency gains from the technological innovations.

>Beaudreau (1996,2014,2018), on the other hand, presented a refinement of their argument, pointing to a specific technology shock, namely the shift to electric unit drive, commonly known as electrification, as well as invoking the legislative struggle over the proposed Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. According to Beaudreau (1996,2014,2018), electric unit drive vastly increased the rated capacity of much of U.S. industry. However, given the lack of market opportunities, labor markets began to weaken, prompting a political response on the part of the Republicans in the form of another general upward revision of the tariff schedule, known as the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Bill.

>In short, he argued that the stock market boom and crash can be understood in terms of the legislative life-cycle of the proposed tariff bill against a background of improved fundamentals. From June 1928 when the Republican proposal was announced to July 1929, stock prices increased in response to tariff good news. They crashed, however, in October 1929 when The Stock Market Boom and Crash of 1929 Was Not a Bubble 3 the Party splintered, and thirteen Senators crossed the floor to join the Democrats in their quest to lower tariffs.

>In so doing, he was able to do what both Fisher and McGrattan and Prescott were not, namely rationalize both the boom and the bust. Stock prices appreciated in response to good tariff news against a backdrop of improved fundamentals, and crashed when the promise of greater sales, profits and earnings was quashed by dissent and division within the Republican Party.

basically TSLA deserves its P/E

[Anonymous No.25345972]

>>25344721
extremely based fucking leaf

[Anonymous No.25346106]

>>25344365
post the full picture

[Anonymous No.25346203]

m1 is printed money, not all money
current usd supply is above 20 trills
this fud is hilarious, dollar aint going anywhere and you know it

[Anonymous No.25346483]

>>25345025
>The last time kikes allowed a deflationary spiral to happen, something else happened..

W-what happened a-anon?

Also, whats the meaning of the teapot?

[Anonymous No.25347466]

>>25344473
As soon as that happens the money printer goes on hyper mode and never stops until the dollar is gone

[Anonymous No.25347508]

>>25344365
>he thinks all the increase in M1 is from new dolla dolla bills
>he doesn't know that if I take $500 cash out of an ATM then the M1 supply has increased by $500 without $500 having been printed

[Anonymous No.25347516]

>>25344547
We lived since the Renaissance to the 20th century without central banks, get fucked keynsian parasite

[Anonymous No.25347539]

>>25347508
This being said, the inflationary pressures are real and CPI is definitely way under the true rate, but crypto at these levels is a retarded way to protect your purchasing power

[Anonymous No.25347563]

>>25344365
you are supposed to look at M2

[Anonymous No.25347624]

>>25347563
In fairness to the schizos they're not wrong about this being a massive injection of money even when looking at M2/M3. They're just not making a smart inflation hedge play.

[Anonymous No.25348469]

>>25347539
nope, crypto is bargain as an alternative SoV. Gold is at roughly $10 trillion market cap while BTC is at $500 billion market cap. That's a potential 20x right there.

[Anonymous No.25348508]

>>25348469
Bitcoin is an absolute failure if it fails to surpass a shiny rock with practically infinite supply.

[Anonymous No.25348520]

>>25348508
exactly. get your easy 20x then dump btc for eth.

[Anonymous No.25348677]

>>25344365

Ahh yes, derivatives will flock to BTC and fill the purses of chinks and cartels to get rugged of 80% within a year. How retarded are you?

[Anonymous No.25348889]

>>25345649
>We criticise Fiat currency for not being backed by anything
Bitcoin? How many divisions does it have?
There, now you know what backs up Fiat currencies. It's backed up by armies, planes and nuclear submarines. It's called power. It's very useful.

[Anonymous No.25349130]

>>25344365
>crypto market produces nothing
>greater valuation than stock market
idiot

[Anonymous No.25349273]

>>25346106
The ultimate redpill is to see pre 1971 data , since it shows it's also went parabolic post 1971 in most data.
Tough they were still acting as if somehow the gold standard existed in some ways until 2008 so things werent so fucked up.

[Anonymous No.25349372]

>>25344721
I work full time and do extra delivery gigs in the evening and make about that amount. How the fuck are you getting 2k from the gov? I'm moving to canada

[Anonymous No.25349462]

>>25348889
>There, now you know what backs up Fiat currencies. It's backed up by armies, planes and nuclear submarines. It's called power. It's very useful.
Yeah, whenever my local gas station tries to raise prices, a platoon of marines shows up to defend the dollar.

[Anonymous No.25349583]

>>25349462
No, but it helps you as Europe and China don't dare reclaim you to pay the debts you have towards them. And nobody ever will.

[Anonymous No.25349822]

>>25345563
gmi schizo fren

[Anonymous No.25349898]

Lol if you retards think the real money is going into magic internet coins. They're telling all the plebs to buy bitcoin. The big boys have been quietly buying metals and real estate. Wake up!.

[Anonymous No.25349946]

>>25344365
Just in case /biz/ forgot Canada

[Anonymous No.25350160]

>>25349583
>Europe and China don't dare reclaim you to pay the debts you have towards them
They don't have to reclaim anything because the Treasury always pays, dipshit. Every comment you make is dumber than the last.

[Anonymous No.25350344]

>>25349372
2k CAD != $2k USD

>>25348677
>>25349898
Based

[Anonymous No.25350437]

>>25350160
It's paid by printing. Totally sustainable until the end of times if not backed up by power. Every comment you make exhibits how short sighted you are, especially the very first one.

[Anonymous No.25350628]

>>25345582
that is unironically going to happen, stocks will get tokenized.

[Anonymous No.25350686]

>>25350437
>no u
lol okay. You've convinced me.

[Anonymous No.25351097]

>>25349946

[Anonymous No.25351212]

>>25349946
Look like no body cares about this

[Anonymous No.25352028]

>>25345025
>implying the deflationary spiral was not caused by the fed to cause a global deflationary event to justify the creation of central banks everywhere.

[Anonymous No.25352917]

>>25344365
WRONG LOL

[Anonymous No.25353197]

The spike in M1 has to do with the rich moving their money from savings (M2) into checking (M1). Someone somewhere knows something, and they are incredibly rich.

You're witnessing a bank run of sorts. The Fed is incapable of stopping it. Banks have to intervene and keep people from extracting their cash from the bank.

[Anonymous No.25353265]

They're about to change the rules on savings accounts. In order to get your money out of savings, you have to write a letter to your bank and you may expect to wait at least 7 days before you can take your own money out of a bank.

Money has to go from M1 -> M0 for it to be a real bankrun on Federal Reserve notes. However, another way of "getting out of the system" is by buying real assets of buying Federal Reserve notes.

[Anonymous No.25354029]

>>25344888
>cannot print crypto
what are people this retarded? Sure, you can't create more units of a particular cryptocurrency, but you can create infinite number of new cryptocurrencies. How many times have we seen a newly minted crypto appearing on the first page of coinmarketcap? That's inflation.

[Anonymous No.25354090]

you will own nothing, and you will eat bugs, and jack off to blackedraw, and you will LIKE IT.

[Anonymous No.25354089]

>>25344365
That would mean that 90% of /biz/ would make it.
You lie.

[Anonymous No.25354272]

>>25344365
>wow were gonna make it bros!! look how big the numbers got holy shiiittt!!!!!!
And yet the country is falling the fuck apart all around us, inflation will be so huge you won't make any gain in actual purchasing power, and everybody that isn't in the pocket of the elite already is fucked no matter how much money they have. Woohoo, number went up.

[Anonymous No.25355070]

>>25354029

You’re right, they’re both inflation.

What that Anon means is that a single crypto can’t be inflated once it’s minted, sure you can make other cryptos, I can start printing my own money, it doesn’t mean anyone will buy. But like Bitcoin many coins are capped at the amount of available supply. The feds can print whenever and however much they want with no physical limitation.

[Anonymous No.25355593]

>>25354090
>and jack off to blackedraw,

Kek

[Anonymous No.25355863]

>>25353197
>goyim want cash
w-what I thought /biz/ said the goyim will want butt coins??!!!!!
HOLY FUCK SELL IT ALL GET INTO CASH!!!!

[Anonymous No.25356972]

>>25355863
>tfw tether is demanding all the cash so they can keep having usd reserves without fear of being demonetized.

[Anonymous No.25357861]

If inflation does spike, expect housing prices to fall and the stock market to crash. Also you would be getting a raise every month to offset living costs, otherwise people would abandon their jobs.

Americans have never lived through the types of inflation observed in Weimar Germany, Argentina or Venezuela.

This might sound incredibly stupid, but the best asset to own if the US dollar inflates is Turkish lira bonds. A dollar devaluation would cause the world's shittiest currency, the Lira, to soar.

[Anonymous No.25357985]

>>25344494
Yeah, yeah. I've been having that "feeling" since 2013. It's simply not going to happen. I, like Peter Schiff and so many others have been made to look like a fool because this bull stock market just.can't.ever.end

I'm beginning to think that they can't let it end.

[Anonymous No.25358000]

>>25347516
U mean til napoleon, when (((they))) took over

[Anonymous No.25358063]

>>25344721
Yes, you will be one of the few who will make it.

[Anonymous No.25358144]

>All printed money is flowing into stocks and housing
>Stocks and housing starts to crash
>Shit ton of new money with no where to put it
>??????????
>Profit

[Anonymous No.25358174]

>>25345649
>Bitcoin isn't backed by anything.
Try and change the number of coins in circulation, or the total number of coins that will ever be in existance. Oh, you can't? That doesn't have value for you? Are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.25358331]

>>25344721
I don't know about making it, but that's pretty based.... Making it depends on what crypto you hold.

[Anonymous No.25358405]

>>25349946
Number go up. So? How does this change anything? It literally doesn't until there is blood on the streets. And they will never let that happen because the bread and circuses must continue unabated at all costs.

[Anonymous No.25358443]

>>25353197
>Banks have to intervene and keep people from extracting their cash from the bank.
Please...PLEASE God let this happen.

[Anonymous No.25358534]

>>25354029
You can certainly mint an infinite number of infinitely worthless shitcoins. The free market will decide what's worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.25358955]

>>25358534
>>25355070

doesn't matter if supply is capped, as long as all these new altcoins have substantial market cap, the value of crypto as an asset class is being diluted. Again this is no different than printing fiat -- unless bitcoin dominance is 100%, and it's guaranteed to stay that way somehow

[Anonymous No.25360389]

>>25344547
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.25360432]

The US government should start buying bitcoin. It’s the only way they could pay off the national debt.

[Anonymous No.25360461]

>>25344721
Fellow leaf on leaf bux, what are you holding?

[Anonymous No.25360545]

>>25344897
It is logical, the barrier to access in crypto is way easier than stonks, especially if you add in non-western countries.

[Anonymous No.25360558]

>>25345649
Why do people even come on here and FUD bitcoin anymore when it’s the best performing asset of the last decade? It just shows even when something is literally the best at what it tries to do people will still find a way to hate in it.

[Anonymous No.25360720]

>>25360432
its not meant to repaid ever, brainlet

[Anonymous No.25360816]

>>25353197
>>25353265
This is the best take so far.
Confirmed that banks are scared because they are keeping high reserve balances, function of which these days is pretty much just to stay solvent during a bank run, which is likely by looking at the M1 & 2.

All the "money printing" from QE goes here, despite that there is a 0% reserve requirement. The only other reason banks want to hold such high balances is because they earn a risk free 0.1%, which comes out to $30+ billion each year (paid for by US taxpayercucks).

Do you think we get bank Bail-ins like they do in Argentina / Cyprus / Spain / the UK in 2022 ?

[Anonymous No.25361171]

>>25344547
Good.