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25244484 No.25244484 [Reply] [Original]

We have a place that has information on everything (called the Internet) and yet there are people who still struggle month to month with bills and are unable to save at least $1000 a month.
I'm not talking about people from third world countries here, but first and second world. If you're from anywhere in EU, USA, Australia and some parts of Asia, you literally have no excuse to have money issues. You must either be lazy or a total moron.

>> No.25244530

>>25244484
I live in a poor people neighboorhood. 90 percent of these people don't know how to use a computer

>> No.25244613

There are many people with a predisposition for poor decisions. If you are a perennial poor decider your life quality of life will suffer accordingly.

>> No.25244650

>>25244484
reading is for faggots

>> No.25244742

>live in so called europe, Latvia
>absolutely retarded government killed transit business with russians, destroyed local manufacturing, invited businesses from lithuania with much lesser taxes to buttfuck locals on home market, only around 1. 5 mil people in the whole country total, extreme taxes overall
That Is why I started investing in crypto all the scraps I can get. You dont know how bad it can be, we literally have "very good" salaries around 1.2-1.5k, while gas Is around 1.2 eur per litre.

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>>25244484
normalfags are ridiculously bad with money
I really don't have any idea how they manage to not save any money, I've heard plenty of stories of people making 6 figures and having 0 savings.
It doesn't make sense to me

>> No.25245056

Normies save money in their Roth IRA/ 401k as told by their employer, once they see the massive balance of 10k or more they take out a hefty loan and buy a new car or an RV like dumbasses or they spend every penny going to eat at restaurants and on travel and are deep in credit card debt.

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>>25244484
without the poor there could be no rich so it must be... r-rich to be poor sometimes?

>> No.25245249

>>25244484
You have no idea how many normies know nothing about investing or shy away from it at all cost, they simlply consoom and believe their wage is everything there is to financial income.

>> No.25245294

>>25244919
Can confirm. I know people on 6 figures who feel like you're supposed to spend it all. Expensive cars, $3000 handbags, jewellery, expensive holidays, all for keeping up appearances.

Capitalism is dependent on the majority being poor. It needs people who need that next pay check.Most people are cattle who obey the 'spend, spend, spend' meme.

>> No.25245300

>You can lead a horse to water...

Many of my friends that I try to get interested in investing seem too scared. They think the "safe" bet is to just work a 40+ hour a week job and save like 5% of what they make. It took me awhile to break away from that mold though. Realizing that pensions/401k from employers are just mandatory savings plans because the majority of employees are too stupid to be smart with their own money.

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>>25244484
Let's see

30% = Federal income tax
10% = FICA
0 to 13% = State income tax
0 to 10% = Sales Tax
30% Federal capital gains
0 to 15% = state capital gains
Gasoline tax
Property taxes

RENT or Mortage

Food

Most of your money is stolen from you. You're just pathologizing people affected by the above as cope because you don't want to see how much you're being robbed blind. This makes you worse than a lazy moron.

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>>25245294
yup
guess I can't complain too much since I'm benefiting from their consumerism through investments. The capitalism wheel will stop turning if they stop spending like retards.
I guess it's a good thing that people like us are a minority, but it's still still sad to see people JUST their finances constantly.

>> No.25245454

i went all in on BTC at $28k

>> No.25245530

>>25244613
This. People think material items are the road to happiness. They will make illogical decisions with money because for whatever reason they think that brand new car will make them happy and show the world they are successful.

If i make it to retirement I will feel bad for them when i am not having a care in the world about money and doing whatever the fuck I want while they are nearing 70 and are still having to wage slave.

>> No.25245579

>>25244484
Poverty is fake. I don't know anyone who is poor.

>> No.25245612

>>25244484
You don't get how the world works eh? Maybe some day it'll be you.

You could stake some Tomochain, knowing it will never be you, but will you listen?

>> No.25245617

>>25245427
Is that in burgerland? I only pay a flat 15% on my income every year and pretty much nothing else.

>> No.25245645

>>25245427
Don’t expect mouth breathing neets to have any concept of how badly the average joe is fucked

>> No.25245655

>>25244530
the boomers i work with make $25/hour and have resigned themselves to work for this shitty ass company because they've been there for 10+ years and are virtually unemployable anywhere else. they need help opening fucking excel spreadsheets

>> No.25245726

>>25244484
Financial literacy is a privilege of the elites, the same way that public speaking skills aren’t nurtured at all in state/public schools. As a former poorfag I know from experience we’re advised to put our money into savings accounts and accrue poxy amounts of interest that is actually just a shitty hedge against inflation and only puts financial freedom further out of reach. Doesn’t matter where you grow up, there is wealth and poverty no matter where you are, and knowing how to make positive financial decisions is something poor people are NEVER taught, otherwise they’d pose a genuine threat to the establishment.

Nevertheless, Imagine being you- a fucking cuck to the financial elites, while simultaneously posting on a board that celebrates a new market which actually offers poor people a way out of being dicked about by big banks. Cognitive dissonance personified

>> No.25245761

poor ppl choose to be poor. i see them with their stupid excuse and wrong decisions.
the worst part of it is, that they become commies/socialists and blame others for their stupidity!

>> No.25246133

Spainfag here. I literally can't find a job here.

How is "the Internet" gonna help with that?

>> No.25246201

>>25246133
If you have to ask then you're ngmi. Stop looking for local jobs, there's thousands to be made online for very little work.

>> No.25246235

>>25244484
I'm poor because the internet told me to buy GRT and I did and it dropped, so I sold and lost most of my savings. So thank you internet for nothing

>> No.25246275

>>25246133
Because you are a europoor and the government wants you to rely on them

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>>25246235
You shouldn't be buying anything besides BTC and XMR. Everything else is a shitcoin and a bad long term investment.

>> No.25246500

This is true but you also need willpower to build and learn new things

>> No.25246509

>>25246328
Says you. What happens when btc miners have nothing to mine anymore. No reason to mine, it gets abandon. Only gold and silver and worthy investments

>> No.25246549

>>25246328
Xmr isn't on coinbase. Can't buy it if it's not buyable

>> No.25246667

>>25246201
Online jobs are worthless pajeet 0.01 € per hour stuff.

>> No.25246990

>>25244484
Most only care about today
>Go on holiday in Greece
>Order limo be because YOLO
>Go home and starve until the next salary
>Rinse and repeat

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>>25246509
>gold and silver
Have fun staying poor, friend.

>>25246549
>coinbase
Have fun staying poor, friend.

>> No.25247193

>>25244742
Litnor get off 4chins.

>> No.25248472

>>25244484
You underestimate how gullible,retarded and ignorant normal people are

>> No.25249739

>>25244484
Because, even though you can answer every question at the push of a button and teach yourself almost anything, you've still got to pay for the paperwork to prove it, most people are also wagies, and in real terms you get less now for a days work than at any point in the 20th century

>> No.25250224

>>25245726
How do we escape? Just invest in btc and hold?

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25250531

I can’t see how the internet can help me.Are you referring to freelancing ?

>> No.25250589

How can you save over 1000 a month if you barely make over that a month

>> No.25250791

>>25250531
ngmi don’t bother

>> No.25250906

I am so poor I often don't buy stuff that I would like to buy

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25250938

The minimum wage in my state is 15 an hour. Other states are at that, too. That's the average hourly wage for a Europoor. I don't get how people can be poor here unless they're fucking retarded degenerates.

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>>25250531
>>25250589
Unfortunately you two will stay poor, friends.

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>>25244484
Financial literacy and information don't guarantee financial success. It's a culmination of opportunities, talent and a "mindset of success". I've been a successful businessman and investor for 15 years but I still believe it's my mindset that sets me apart from the rest. My investment strategies, risk management and philosophy. It takes a great deal of intuition and "feel". But let's just take the average person. For them, even getting a decent paying job these days is tough for a lot of them. Most people are living paycheck to paycheck so they don't benefit from investment compounding (they can't afford to invest). Lots of factors at play. Some people literally won't make it and that's just a fact of life.

>> No.25251619

It's called misery.its very hard to save money when you are in misery and you can barely even plug the pain by blowing all your money instead of saving it.

I really think what separates me is that I organized my life so I have peace.peace = breathing = deep thought potential = success

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25251791

>>25251014
I gave up on making money online years ago.I tried Drop shipping , affiliate marketing and even making courses on udemy but i didn’t make it I guess I lack the original and creativity.
i will keep doing my code monkey job for now

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25251855

Is this the new LARP thread?

Hahaha you're all not gonna make it I make 1 trillion dollars by... Oops, I'm not gonna tell the secret. If you had an IQ as high and a skin as white as mine you'd already know. ;)

>> No.25251972

>>25246509
then buy xmr then faggot. its got asymptotic inflation or whatever buzzword that means theres incentive for it to be mined and spent like p2p cash should.

>> No.25252404

>>25246509
You get tx fee for mining you stupid nigger

>> No.25252722

>Mexico of Europe aka Poland citizen
>Father was alcoholic and mother has a mind of a teeneger even now
>Live with 2 brothers and take care of drugged/drunk father during the night
>Had to act quiet everyday so the bailiff doesn't find that we are in the apartment
>Living with the mindset that we are worthless scum of earth

Yeah, it's easy to be poor when you were the one sustaining your parents and getting anxious attacks every now and then.

>> No.25252776

>>25252722
Anxiety attacks*
Also I recovered from this mindset this year and I am slowly getting out of this hellhole

>> No.25252881

>>25252722
I hope you make it fren

>> No.25252960

>>25244484
Dumb attitudes like this that are bereft of any understanding of social science and game-theory is why whites/asians get cucked by jews and blacks.
You wrongly assume that your ability to turn an accounting profit in a desirable time preference gives you a more in-depth insight into how mass-man should live.

>> No.25252968

>>25251791
Can you show me examples of your adventures in online money making so I can help myself?

>> No.25253218

>>25252968
Use Shopify for drop shipping.google it and you will find enough information
For affiliate marketing try to make an Instagram page related to a specific niche and then shit post until you have enough followers.Then you can start promoting products there.
For udemy make courses on something you know or a skill and hope it gets attention form others. I made an Arabic A1 course but it didn’t go far.

>> No.25253399

>>25244530
You're onto something significant, actually. Education is the most important factor in escaping poverty. So the people in your neighborhood who were never taught how to use a computer won't be able to further develop themselves or find decent jobs. Impoverished neighborhoods tend to only get poorer since the public school system is funded by their taxes. In fact, some schools see themselves only as a glorified daycare and as such don't even try to teach.

Yes, the information for building wealth and personal finance is out there but, if a person doesn't know it's there (or have prerequisite knowledge), then it's useless to them. Furthermore, things like investing have a high barrier to entry cost that poor people obviously don't have.

So again, for a person living paycheck to paycheck (In the US, this is more than 50% of the population) employing even the most basic financial strategies can be impossible (Can't save money if you don't have any to put away). In other words, telling a poor person to save up is like telling them to eat cake instead of bread.

As a side note, self-growth takes a lot of time that poor people might not have, especially if they're working multiple jobs, raising kids and/or taking care of sick & elderly family members.

>>25244484
Saving $1000 per month is a ludicrous amount. That's only going to be for people with really well paying jobs and few expenses.

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25254119

>>25246549
ngmi

>> No.25254246

>>25252776
dont worry faggot just keep climbing

>> No.25254504

>>25245427
>30% = Federal income tax
>10% = FICA
>0 to 13% = State income tax
>0 to 10% = Sales Tax
>30% Federal capital gains
>0 to 15% = state capital gains
>Gasoline tax
>Property taxes
>RENT or Mortage
>Food
priced in

>> No.25254768

>>25244484

Rent, bills, and hunger.

>> No.25254858

>>25252722
I give you all blessings to make it, friend.

>> No.25255047

>>25244484
Internet has a ton of distractions though.
Youtube, twitch, video games, porn

>> No.25255130

>>25246275
US government just sent EVERYONE a $600 check to pay basic bills. The only country on Earth to do that. Then burgers come on here and talk about relying on the government. While Biden is already planning to spend billions to pay reparations to a minority of the population for things that happened centuries ago. What a bunch of cucks.

>> No.25255172

>>25255047
Ngmi.

>> No.25255249

>>25252881
>>25254246
>>25254858
Thanks frens. Y-you too

>> No.25256127

>>25244484
Bad credit.

>> No.25256187

I sell pornhub videos to retards on a dating website in exchange for amazon gift cards.
Made 700 shekels in two weeks.

>> No.25256237

>>25244484
some people can't get ahead due to low pay and unavoidably high costs: sole provider in a family, high cost of living area, no skills/education to get a higher paying job, etc.

some people can get ahead but they repeatedly make poor decisions like buying scratch offs, eating every meal as fast food, drinking/smoking, wasting their time at a low wage job when they could do better if they tried, etc. basically poor impulse control and a limited ability to plan or think of the future.

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>>25250906
look, it's easy. just join this tranny pump and dump group
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and be one of the 50% who makes profit.
there is nothing more i can help you with

>> No.25256448

>>25253399
>Saving $1000 per month is a ludicrous amount. That's only going to be for people with really well paying jobs and few expenses.
what third world shithole do you live in where saving $1k a month is a ludicrous amount of money?