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We’re fucked aren’t me? This situation is worse than any fud. I’m actually thinking of selling right now.

>> No.25235551

Governments suck

>> No.25235570

>market resolves to the correct answer
>we're fucked
The result of the election is unknown at the date of resolution. However, thanks to the magic of using human subjectivity rather than machine decision making, we can say that Biden has won the election by changing the meaning of the word "election" to mean "electoral college votes won" rather than "the electoral process from start to finish as outlined in the constitution". Even when the question was flawed, Kleros can provide the right answer.

Working as intended and extremely bullish imo. I'll take those bags if you don't want them.

>> No.25235622

What situation?
What did I miss?

>> No.25235667

including this kleros loss, how many loses is this for trump?

>> No.25235733

>>25235570
The system is flawed. People are scared to vote the truth in fear they will lose their stake. So they go with the popular media friendly choice. Its shit. Seriously who wants to serve on a Jury where actually lose money?

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>> No.25235774

I sold 200.000 pnk at a loss yesterday. This is going to zero quick. Glad to be out. I thought this would be a comfy hold but you all lied to me.

>> No.25235797

>>25235733
>popular media friendly choice
the only people arguing for "invalid" in the telegram, like Sergey Nazarov and TheChainlinker, have both taken out large bets on "No", and wrote essays saying Biden stole the election and Trump will win with the help of Q.

This was a very clear cut case and anybody who seriously thinks otherwise has drunk the koolaid. Yes, the question was flawed. Yes, the resolution date should have been January 7. But it wasn't, and Kleros can fix that without breaking the smart contract by approximating the most likely outcome, which is "Yes". This is very bullish. There will be broken contracts and poorly written questions requiring subjective answers in the future, and Kleros can help in these scenarios.

>> No.25235801

>>25235509
>>25235551
>>25235570
>>25235622
>>25235667
>>25235733
>>25235773
>>25235774
thanks just sold my 10k make it stack

>> No.25235813

>>25235570
Do you consider it a win if he cheated?

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I don’t care abou

>>25235813
They have to say Biden won cuz globohomo but it’s still a great project. Crypto will exist after shtf and governance will be important

>> No.25235910

>>25235797
>very clear cut case
>can never explain why
Nobody is talking about Q in the telegram. Fuck off

>> No.25236397

>>25235910
I explained why. The real question at hand is "now that the smart contract has fucked up by resolving too early, what should the outcome be?"
>should we pay out people who bet on biden, because Biden is almost guaranteed to win?
>should we pay out people who bet on Trump and appealed the question, pointing out it was technically invalid, to make money?
This is the first real 'attack' on Kleros - groups of people with hundreds of ETH trying to use technicalities to win money for themselves. But Kleros isn't and shouldn't be about technicalities, it should be about the spirit of the dispute. And like with the Doge trials, Kleros has passed this test, but there will be many more people trying to game cases to make themselves money. But if you don't see why a Yes resolution is bullish, then you're not seeing the bigger picture.

TLDR: Yes, the question is invalid. No, it should not be ruled as invalid, because that creates a perverse outcome.

>> No.25237069

Read the latest message from Q. Kleros is going to zero.

>> No.25237383

>>25235509
>>25235733
>>25235773
>>25235774
>>25235813
>>25236397
>>25237069
Oh wow this really hit me hard. Can't believe I fell for a scam like this. Hopefully I can still get out before the rugpull. I will now proceed to sell 1M Pinakion coins. Yikes.

>> No.25237397

>>25235509
Yeah yeah not selling. Ever.

>> No.25237508

>>25235733
that's the whole point of the game theory behind Kleros, you're not supposed to vote the way you personally think, you're supposed to vote the way you think others will vote, so the jury converges at a consensus that is acceptable to most people

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>>25236397
This

>> No.25237593

sold all my stack for rlc

>> No.25237714

its been pumping between .12 and .10 for the past few weeks. tempted to sell and buy back in at .10

>> No.25237727

>>25237714
sell all ur fucking tokens retard, the only reason price is up is bc whales bought tokens to sway trump vote

>> No.25237811

>>25237727
fuck ive been so comfy though. bought in at .06

>> No.25237826

>>25237811
literally moved my 50k stack to prq today, best decision ever. I'll come back and buy the dip later on

>> No.25237831

>expecting decision making based on stake holder logic would work
stupid communists

>> No.25237859

>>25237826
135k stack here. thinking of going balls deep in DSD

>> No.25238864

>>25236397
thank you for understanding how arbitrations work