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It's like all the worlds governments are all putting a coordinated effort to hyper inflate all of their currencies, all at once, on purpose.

why would they do this?

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inflate to a point where a global reset is required
usher in a one world NWO currency as a baseline seems XRP ish

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>>25215246
boomer papers are worthless

>> No.25215307
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25215307

Jews are running the show and they’re inherently evil

>> No.25215319

>>25215246
to match the dollar

>> No.25215327

China.

>> No.25215334

politicians/feds are in bed with the elites. the elites are buying all assets and paying off the politicians/feds. the only people who lose are the people without assets, but you can buy them off to prevent a revolution with a $600 stimulus check paid in shitty inflating fiat currency lol. poor people are so stupid.

>> No.25215356

>>25215246

Pump bitcoin

>> No.25215365

>>25215246
they stopped economic output by shutting down everything. the only way to replace is by printing

>> No.25215383

They're buying up the total supply of bitcoin so you can't have any, and then destroying/vanishing it so it's no longer a threat to them

>> No.25215384

>>25215307
> they are all american
Everyone knows this

>> No.25215400

its about economic strength. a nation that exports a lot will gain influence, build military and become a greater power.
once one country starts inflating their currency all others have to do the same

>> No.25215432

It's the only way the elite can come out of the coronavirus recession with a profit. Their assets appreciate, at the expense of normal people's wages and savings due to inflation.

Most governments' action make a lot of sense if you just start assuming they don't give a shit about anyone but the richest 1% of their population.

>> No.25215435

>>25215246
They need to increase liquidity because there is not enough fiat floating around. If they don't do it at the same time they risk the currencies inflating most dropping hard in value, and the currencies that inflate less getting bought up and deflating, which would be worse than inflation since there wouldn't be enough fiat floating around for debtors to make their loan payments and the system seizes up.

>> No.25215471

>Subsidize Boomers and GenX with borrowed money
>Fuck fuck fuck we can never pay back
>Create hyper inflation to reduce debt
>Boomers and GenX die as the most lazy and destructive generation humanity has ever seen

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25215489

>>25215307

/pol/ fren, I salute you

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>>25215471

I'm GenX fren
I'm on your side
Boomers are the only enemies

>> No.25215549

>>25215246
MMT is the new normal. Literally one of the main reasons why migrating to another monetary system like Epicenter makes sense.

>> No.25215639

>>25215246
Because they DGAF
Better to the the governor that "tried to save" everything than yet another irrelevant one.

>> No.25215705

>>25215334
you're an idiot. thanks god no one in their right mind would ever give you any responsibility.

>> No.25215747

>>25215246
you cant have rich people without poor people. It's the entire concept behind the book rich dad poor dad.

>> No.25215805

>>25215536
>I'm GenX fren
>Boomers are the only enemies
you're a boomer you ageing freak.

>> No.25215816

>>25215705
i piss in your mouth you dumb bitch

>> No.25215867

"creativity" is the euphemism that chinese use for western intelligence. their self-absorbed nature does not allow them to recognize men like euler, tesla, maxwell, etc. as "intelligent", because it undermines their fantasy of eastern supremacy. so they call them creative. i'm not just talking about 4chan or the internet either, i've seen them do this in real life, hand to god. it's a backhanded complement they frequently give to westerners.

and not just great minds in history. all intelligent westerners are merely "creative", according to the chinese. i shit you not, this is how they think. i've never been condescended to so transparently until my dealings with the chinese. they're so rude and arrogant i can hardly believe it.

>> No.25215911

Because they want me and my XMR to make it

>> No.25215976

>>25215246
If you haven't been noticing, "printing money" has been the standard since world war one. It's usually been to sponsor war, but it happened without any questions asked.
But the printing itself doesn't cause inflation unless it outpaces actual capacity in the economy to produce at the going price.
The inflation only happens when the money is spent, not merely by having it been printed and sitting in people's wallets.
This stress at point of purchase is essentially a bidding war, and that's why prices go up.
When the economy is controlled by monopolies, infrastructure has deteriorated, businesses have closed (reducing competition and capacity), or limited a supply of skilled labor (that can't efficiently produce), then you can bet that prices are going to increase.
The meme that the government can't responsibly "print money" just increases the power of the banks to swoop in with their fractional reserves credit systems and enact neo-feudalism with their own freshly printed money.

When you understand that money is the electricity that the economy runs on, you'll start to understand that the zero-sum game mentality will lead to machine shaking itself apart.

>> No.25216090

>>25215867

or perhaps it's a coordinated effort. perhaps they are all told to use a specific vocabulary. but it is irritating. and i know what some of you are thinking, "the chinese i know are nice people". they are nice people until they have the advantage. that is their nature. in the west we are more trusting because trustworthiness and your reputation as a christian was considered somewhat important and affected your social standing. less so now, since everything in the modern world revolves around money, but that's the cultural background we come from. point being, do not take these traits for granted when you deal with the chinese.

>> No.25216185

>>25215307
>anti-Semitism
Butthurt /Pol-tard Chud detected. Stay mad while we control your world.

>> No.25216262

>>25216090
They call anyone who was born in the US Native Americans. It’s pretty weird.

>> No.25216293

>>25216185
gas yourself kike

>> No.25216314

>>25215246
It’s almost as if there’s a global pandemic happening right now huh

>> No.25216340

>>25215307
How much money do you have to lose before you realise that listening to /pol/ is a bad idea? Reply to this post with how much you bet on trump to win or your mother dies in her sleep tonight

>> No.25216396

>>25216262

does that mean i can open up a tax-free casino and drink firewater every day?

it is not a miscommunication if that is what you're suggesting. they know what the word "creative" means, they know what the word "intelligent" means.

>> No.25216417

>>25216185
And for no reason at all

>> No.25216440

>>25215246
>>25215301
>>25215307
>>25215319
>>25215327
>>25215334
>>25215356
>>25215365
>>25215400
>>25215432
>>25215435
>>25215471
>>25215639
>>25215705
>>25215747
>>25215867
>>25215976
>>25216090
>>25216185

you're all retarded and wrong, so allow me to explain.

The Federal Reserve operates on Keynsian economic theory. The theory posits that growth and inflation are inherently tied, because the more people spend their money, the less it becomes worth as it is more freely circulated and exchanged. Inflation is also correlated with growth, as it makes more economic sense to spend the money while it's worth more, whereas it will be worth less in the future.

In a truly libertarian market, the value of money will hyperinflate as the market gets more and more bullish. Eventually it'll hit a tipping point where long-term aggregate supply will be dwarfed by short-term aggregate demand, and it will cause a bust. Markets have a natural "boom & bust" cycle.

The role of the Federal Reserve is to control the amount of money in circulation to try and keep the rate of inflation between 2.5-3%, as this is the ideal equilibrium zone for healthy economic growth without outrunning long-term aggregate supply. In case you haven't noticed, the COVID regulations are really fucking the markets. When people aren't spending their money, we see deflation, which is bad: when deflation occurs, people would rather hold onto their dollar bills instead of purchasing goods and services, which means no economy. The reason markets are doing so well and the USD has not yet hit a horrible rate of inflation despite how much of it is being printed and distributed, is because the USD is being inflated, which is keeping the economy afloat.

Even if you disagree with the theory and think it's wrong, this is the reason more money is being printed by the Feds, and thinking anything else is not only wrong, but also gay

>> No.25216472

>>25216396
No it’s just their communist vernacular.

>> No.25216496

>>25216440
its not working though.

>> No.25216540

>>25216472

native americans aside, i do not believe it's an error in communication. they know what 'creative' and 'intelligent' mean, and the difference between the two. it's a backhanded complement and intended as such when paid.

>> No.25216552

>>25215246
The same reason people who are faced with terminal illness rack up a shit ton of debt

>> No.25216577

>>25215246
I have a book coming out soon about this. What they are doing is increasing the supply of money, people take out more loans, then once they decrease the supply of money people must now sell things to get money. The bank did this in a land grab in the 1800s. They also did it in a land grab in 2008. People have been talking about china buying up companies and land in the us. China is simply an extension of the bank since communism is the best form of government for the bank. Remember the bank is a private 3rd party not connected to the government except for their henchmen that have infiltrated the government.
In the 20s there was an increase in the money supply, 'the roaring 20s', then what happened after that? The great depression.
So what is the great depression? It is simply a contracting of the money supply. They could have simply not done this and there would be no depression, and at any time they could have stopped the great depression by expanding the money supply. They have full control. If you want to talk about it more here is a discord where I am trying to put together a research team so that we can figure out what they are doing and why so that we can predict their next moves and place bets and get rich. What I want to do is like the movie The China Hustle, in the movie the people who figure out China's ruse investigate and put in big shorts and they are almost spys to these companies, but no one listens to them so all they can do is make big money of shorting their fake companies.
.gg /ug9ArYP5

>> No.25216613

>>25216440
neck yourself you kike cretin. Fuck you and your ponzi keynesian debt system. Inflation is a tax on plebs who don't understand monetary systems of currency lifecycles, nothing more.

Enjoying my gains in metals and cryptos, didn't fool me

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>>25216496
and it never will, the fed reserve was put into place to stop boom and busts but nothing but boom and busts happens since they are put in, the very thing happens that they aresupposidly put in place to stop

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>>25216472
>>25216540

so don't even try that i-no-speaka-ze-engrish ruse with me.

>> No.25216686

>>25216440
I own Crypto and physical gold, desu a complete collapse would be a dream come true. Your whore of a mother would be forced to gargle my cum for a flake of silver.

>> No.25216699

>>25216440
>inflation good
>deflation bad
go back with your boomer theory

>> No.25216700

OP it's not that hard to summarize WHY.

You have to ask yourself: what happens if western countries don't do that in times of economic slowdown/crisis like 2020?

OUR FUCKING FIAT MONEY CEISE TO HAVE ANY VALUE WHEN IT DOES NOT CIRCULATE.

That's how fucked up consumerism and hypercapitalism does to currencies. They have to inflate everyone's stack so everyone has to move their money (invest, spend), or else the big magic trick that is fractional reserve banking ceise to work.

>> No.25216708

>>25215246
>It's like all the worlds governments are all putting a coordinated effort to hyper inflate all of their currencies, all at once, on purpose.
>why would they do this?
Central bank owners who print all currency
trying to crash all fiat to bring in global communism.

They are a jewish family called the Rothschilds.

>> No.25216716

Yeah I mean that's exactly it if they all agree to print at the same rate currency exchange can remain more stable

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25216724

>>25216440
Based and Occam's Razor pilled. Schizos btfo.

/thread

>> No.25216732

>>25215307
I'd rather have higher moral beings in charge than a bunch of bitter white men with bruised egos.

>> No.25216749

>>25216440
>we're well aware that the system is fueled by debt shlomo, thats the problem

"in a truly libertarian market"
stopped reading there thats pure bullshit, its not like saying "in a pure vacuum", its just bullshit, its wrong, in a "libertarian market" you wouldn't even have money

the system devalues money to rob the value of peoples savings while funding endless wars, welfare spending, the rich get rich while the poor get POOR

kys you stupid fuck

>> No.25216784

I'll repeat it once more, because keynesian and "economists" from /biz/ love to try to complexify simple stuff.


> OUR FUCKING FIAT MONEY CEISE TO HAVE ANY VALUE WHEN IT DOES NOT CIRCULATE AND THE ECONOMY WOULD SHUTDOWN

>> No.25216794

>>25216650
dangerously based truth not many are ready for.
hold on to your butts. I'm a property guy but I don't have any of that yet either, it's fun to dream tho

>> No.25216801

limited goods + parabolic currency creation = hyperinflation

>> No.25216808

>>25216784

"cease"

>> No.25216868

>>25215246
hyperinflate relative to what? if everyone does it exchange rates between currencies remain stable. Asset prices on the other hand...

>> No.25216889

in the last year the goods and services I paid for included but not limited to:
chic fil a
onlyfans
gym membership
"black market" cannabis
gasoline
???

there isn't another thing I pay for I swear, and I can leech my subscriptions and pay rent directly to my parents. So point being that if a lot of the economy / consumers were like me, people would be fucked. But that's kind of where we are at

>> No.25216917

To maintain the ponzi scheme which is the Fed bond market.

Since 08 we've done nothing but quantitative ease. Not just in 08 as the bailout but constantly since then. The fed prints shit money, then buys shit corporate debt with the shit money. Then corporations buy shit bonds using the shit debt and the Fed uses laundered shit money to payoff past shitbonds that are coming due. Now the federal reserve holds a bunch of worthless "assets" in shit debt from the banks and the corporations hold shit bonds backed by shitdebt and shit money.

This shit chorizo recipe for the bond market is becoming unsustainable. This is why we havent been able to print under half a trillion shit dollars in any fiscal year since 08, and why Trump was doing 1+ trillion in shit printing every year. The ponzi scheme is getting too expensive to maintain.

When I say shit debt I mean even worse than 08 housing securities. Theres not even houses to foreclose on or wages to garnish to pay it. its shit debt the corporations offered out knowing it would never, ever, ever be paid. 1/3rd of all mortgages have been sold to the fed. A lot of the shit credit banks offer (Reminder the average person carries 20k+ in credit debt), this has been sld to the fed. Car loans given by shitty car lots at 17% and nothing down that rises to 24% over time, this has been sold to the fed. Tons of ventur capital corporations who will never turn a profit as they try to emulate amazon, this debt has been sod to the Fed.

The bond market is on the verge of insolvency and the only way to keep it going is to print more and more and more. We're at the exponential growth point of this ponzi scheme and its going to come crashing down. it's not hyperinflaton due to printing thats the worry here-- its the insolvency of every single asset that backs the dollar which will drive the USD literally to ZERO. Not hyper inflation, total devaluation.

>> No.25216934

>>25216681
cont.

but to stay on topic, i think PMs are the solution. i wasn't trying to derail the thread but i wrote a reply for some other thread that got deleted so i posted it here.

>> No.25217219

>>25216917
When you say devaluation are you saying other countries will take buying power of USD

>> No.25217278

>>25216440
Someone actually came and explained the economics of QE accurately and objectively? Color me shocked. I love all the angry responses, as if you're the Fed and pushing this stuff and not just explaining it. Fucking brainlets....

>> No.25217308

>>25217219
Im saying not a single person on earth will want to own the US dollar. Not only is it being printed to hell but its backed by NOTHING if the bond experiences in solvency.
>The US Bond is so valuable because its never gone unpaid
Sound familiar? like... "Nobody would ever not pay a mortgage, housing securities cant fail!"
Theres a reason bond return rates have already hit rock bottom, were struggling to pay out on bonds that are 0-1%.

if there is EVER inslvency in the bond market which we are not far away from, the value of the USD is literally 0.

>> No.25217354

>>25216724
>Occam's Razor
BASED

>> No.25217398

>>25217308
The bond market isnt as shitty as you think it is.

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25217409

>>25216917
t. Jim Lahey

>> No.25217494

>>25216440
Correct. If I understand correctly, the printing is stabilizing currency for now. When demand comes back, we'll see hyperinflation due to oversupply of money and recirculation due to "return to normal" aggregate demand?

>> No.25217536

>>25215246
It's almost if there's a pandemic ongoing

>> No.25217633

>>25215246
they don't have a choice. we live in a poorly made, indescribably jewish house of cards. debtmaxxxed corporate megaliths that make the world go around through fragile global supply chains and fragile global credit networks. if one large corporation or one large country falters, it all comes crashing down through cascading failures (or maybe just nigger cattle panic in the markets.) it's very amusing when you take a step back and think about what a hopelessly retarded system it all is.

>> No.25217695

>>25216686
Gold would be fucking useless in total collapse. At that point cigarettes and alcohol become currency

>> No.25217768

>>25215246
A race to the bottom. Nationalism. There is incentive to lower corporate taxes to mitigate capital flight across arbitrary borders. There is a similar incentive for money printer go brrrrr. I have a whole manifesto about subsidy vs tariffs in the context of sovereign debt and why we don't need to play this game. I figured out I can just make shekels off of this instead. Everybody deals with their insignificance differently. I should rest easy knowing what others don't. Nobody can stop what is coming.

>> No.25217824

>>25216440
lmfao

>> No.25217825

>>25216440
>when deflation occurs, people would rather hold onto their dollar bills instead of purchasing goods and services

You still need to eat. You will spend money on things you actually need, not useless things.

>> No.25217842

>>25216440
t. Rabbi

>> No.25217850

>>25216440
>coping this hard
>>25216749
this is the only real answer. The systme may be designed based off Keynesian Economics but it has been hijacked to keep a free people under the boot of a certain sub-sect of people.

>> No.25217852

>>25215536
>be teen in 70s
>whoa man like peace love and acid

>be congressman in 2020
>whoa man like i want to love kids on acid

>> No.25217855

>>25215246
they bought btc, gold, commodies and now they are shorting their own currencies.
later they will dump btc and the rest and pump their own currencies.

>> No.25217925

>>25215246
Ok OP we get it you're shitposting. Just learn about basic economics first an come back later. Inflation has never been so low.. Most western economies are either caught in threathened by deflation. And you're talking about hyperinflation because it fits your narrative. I know uncle shekelberg told you that you should buy PM's on juicetube.. but hey just buy uncle shekelbergs book with your wagiebucks and continue shitposting on a thai ramen appreciation board

>> No.25217974

Only one anon has mentioned the economy contracting. It was kind of a schizopost tho.

I'm no economist but isn't the global economy contracting from all the productivity lost as a result of the pandemic lockdowns?
Isn't the Fed just printing money as an inflationary counterweight to prevent a deflationary spiral?

>> No.25218038

>>25217974
the global economy is a jewish lie.
>By the end of the year, economists expect global debt to reach $277 trillion, or 365% of world GDP.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/global-debt-gdp-covid19/#:~:text=The%20economic%20situation%2C%20on%20the,or%20365%25%20of%20world%20GDP.

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>>25215246
gotta keep the money printer going

>> No.25218105

>>25217398
>its not as bad as you think!
has this ever been true of anything? When the shit bond collapses and we're left covered in more shit than an indian taxi are you going to be telling me being covered in shit isnt as bad as i think it is?
>>25217409
Shit apples Anon, shit apples.

>> No.25218155

>>25215246
Fiat isnt inflating and the printed money is the reason your shitcoins are pumping, once the brrrrrrrr stops crypto is over.
Now seethe.

>> No.25218170

>>25216577
Checked and interested, but I'm stuck at:
>people take out more loans
People and businesses are taking out less loans.
>once they decrease the supply of money
Seems like this is ever ongoing as debt is repaid or defaulted on (both deflationary). If you're talking about the Feds of the world starting QT, you also believe that all econ units (sovereign and private) can service their debts at higher rates. Personally I don't see this happening.

>> No.25218304

>>25216917
>>25217308
This. I don't own many assets, since I'm a poor slavshit, but this spring I'm selling every fucking stock I have and putting the profits in my education, pay off my family's debt, do major home improvement. The only thing I would keep on holding is some BTC and maybe metals. If burgers decide to crash the world economy for the second time, well, there won't be any crash for me if there is nothing left to crash

>> No.25218351

>>25218304

is it burgers who will crash it or foreign investors abandoning the dollar? i'm not saying you shouldn't, but don't blame the average american.

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>>25217308
This anon has a good point, in that QE in the US is probably serving primarily to maintain low interests on Treasuries. No one ever sees the first sovereign default coming. Think back to Argentina's first. Or the default during the Russian revolution. Before that, Russian bonds were considered the world's most secure.

pic was some big brain forecast of how great the economy would be under Biden.

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>>25217494
It seems like the governments hold the cards for preventing demand from leading into hyperinflation :
>sorry goys but we need to increase taxes
>OH NO, new strain, more covid lockdowns!
>we should put all this unspent money to good use... I know! (pic related)

>> No.25218492

>>25218375

let's hope not. what should americans do to prepare?

>> No.25218621

>>25217974
Supply chains and retail are being destroyed faster than demand, while increases in money supply is leaking into stocks and assets which are being bought up like mad. People will cash these out to buy a diminished pool of goods, spiking their prices higher.

>> No.25218624

>>25218351
Man, I adore the founding father's principles, and I respect your country and the average American, but in the 2008 crisis, my local currency collapsed by 50%. I remember how we couldn't afford meat, and my mother was counting pennies. So, if Tyron defaults on his mortgage than to hell with him

>> No.25218945

>>25216185
And you’ll wonder why you’re kind will be going into the gas chambers again.

>> No.25219014

>>25218481
Which is why it's so important to pick the right assets to store your wealth.
>Land/Houses
>Crypto
>Stocks
>Precious Metals
>Paintings, Wine/Liquor, Tobacco, Old Furniture, etc
Out of these which are easiest for Government to tax VS how hostile they are to said asset.

>> No.25219127

>>25215246
If they all inflate at once they will all be the same ratios between each other. Hides it better.

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>>25218492
If you take other historic examples, life changed so drastically for those countries' subjects during debt defaults. I think being prepared would mean having your wealth spread out enough not to lose it all, and have a plan to get it out of the banking system and the country to avoid capital controls or confiscation like in Lebanon recently or Argentina (again) or Cyprus not too long ago. Crypto was useful in each case.

On the other hand, Japan has been doing QE longer and their demographics pretty much overwhelmed inflation

>> No.25219236

>>25215246
Don't worry, just buy BTC it's a safe heaven
Oh wait, you hear that ... what is it?
>Tether printer goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Uh oh!

>> No.25219260

The world is not anymore the way it used to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5nyQmaq4k4

>> No.25219325

>>25218492

Buy BTC you n00b

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>>25215536
Sorry Daria, I might be an early millenial and share some of the shortcomings of your generation, but the nihilistic GenX cynicism on top of the nimbi boomers narcissism fucked the west up for good.

California dreaming is over. Now its winter time. If you want to do something good at the end of your worthless life, use your cash.

>> No.25219557

>>25219236
Tether ponzi crashing means more people would cash out their fake currency aka Tether just like USD into BTC and would simply accelerate its pump.

>> No.25219612

>>25219557
>this is good for Buttcoin shtick
Imagine lacking self awareness to the point at which you become a living stereotype lmao

>> No.25219688

>>25215246
To pump their btc bags duh

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25219693

>>25215246
Because they are theafs. Money printing is theft.

>> No.25219787

>>25216440
>Inflation is also correlated with growth, as it makes more economic sense to spend the money while it's worth more, whereas it will be worth less in the future.
Literally an economy based around CONSOOMERS lmaooooo
Fucking kikes must be shot on sight

>> No.25219804

inflation is still low, it doesnt even matter

>> No.25219830

>>25215246
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggar_thy_neighbour

Nobody wants to kill their own export industry.

>> No.25219844

>>25215867
This.
That’s why all Chinese men should be killed and all Chinese women be given to healthy 20 to 80 year old males as sex slaves or personal maids.

>> No.25219905

>>25215246
who cares as long as tether keeps pumping my btc bag

>> No.25219940

>>25219693
poverty is theft get rich faggot

>> No.25219943

>>25219844
>all Chinese women be given to healthy 20 to 80 year old males as sex slaves or personal maids.
Sure, after being sterilized no less.

>> No.25220001

>>25216440
They printed 50% of the money this year.

>> No.25220041

>>25216577
Based. This is actually what I think it’s happening with XRP and crypto as a whole. Using crypto currency hype to basically launder money and potentially buy more assets in fiat made with crypto. Ultimately, memes aside, crypto ain’t shit but a stock of a company, land and/or gold or oil is a much more useful asset for control and dominance than anything else. I feel like the elite is basically trying to secure their existence when the collapse happens which is happening right now as we speak.

>> No.25220068

>>25219612
The narrative for Bitcoin remains the same.
Doesn’t matter which fake currency props it up.
If you can’t understand it you will always be a nocoiner seething from the sidelines.

>> No.25220156

>>25216440
Finally someone with a working brain

>> No.25220186

>>25220068
>THIS IS GOOD FOR BUTTCOIN

>> No.25220222
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25220222

>>25215246
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>>/biz/thread/S16006742

>>/biz/thread/S19669109

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>>25216440
>The theory posits that growth and inflation are inherently tied, because the more people spend their money, the less it becomes worth as it is more freely circulated and exchanged.
This is the complete misunderstanding of money.

>In a truly libertarian market, the value of money will hyperinflate as the market gets more and more bullish.
Yeah no one would buy food or car or house because they would wait for profit forever. Retard!

Money is not value! Money is a sign for value! If you distort the sign of value you just make lies and harm as a result.

>> No.25220291

>>25215246
That’s the problem though. The money their printing isn’t hard. So they keep needing to print more of it.

>> No.25220372

>>25215246
either because they are all ignorant to the consequences of their actions which would no suprise me, but my gut feeling tells me that its part of the plan to make people desperate and therefor it will be easier to give orders and continue whatever fucked up plan they have in mind.
surrender yourself to god anon, and be an example of virtue and light
oh ye and stack silver

>> No.25220393

>>25217278
Most people already understand QE. And we just call it theft. Because it is.

>> No.25220426

>>25216440
inflation isnt fucking growth lmao, in fact its eating away at people's savings and inherently making them lose purchasing power
all inflation is kike shit

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>>25216440
>falling prices are bad
ye cheaper eletronics every year is really puttin of consumer spending
>cheaper food, cheaper bills, cheaper gas
OOOOOH NOOOO NOT THE ECONOMY
your entire life is a lie anon

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>>25216577

>> No.25220477

>>25215246
Because US prints shit load.

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>>25217695
The gold Jew fears the still owner

>> No.25220525

>>25216440
Democracies bounce around depending on the whim of the mob. We're still reacting to the 2008 "liquidity crisis" and riots over "austerity measures". It's blasphemy against the gods of the age to talk about limiting liquidity for any reason. For most products today supply and demand aren't the dominant factors in price formation so more demand doesn't actually push up prices. An easy example is electronics, more demand actually means a lower price since factories can produce each unit more efficiently. That results in a demand caused increase in prices of raw materials but the materials aren't a large factor in the price of the product, if it was it would usually make sense economically to recycle the materials.

>> No.25220686

>>25219844
>Chinese women be given to healthy 20 to 80 year old males as sex slaves or personal maids.

that would result in more chinese males. i'm also very skeptical that chinese women are any more trustworthy and would likely turn out to be a bigger headache than the men.

>> No.25220733

>>25217695

while i really like PMs in general gold seems overvalued relative to the other PMs.

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>>25220442
KEK

>> No.25220791

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_war

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25220836

>>25216185
>Cries anti-semtism when somebody points out that Jews run the world
>Immediately goes on to then brag about how Jews run the world

>> No.25220943

>>25220748
>1999: "okay, that was enough for this decade"
>2002: "FUCK THAT LET'S GOOOOO"
wtf happened there?

>>25220836
looks like they no longer feel that they have to hide behind their masks anymore

>> No.25221047

>>25216868
relative to assets and goods that are typically necessities, i.e. food and housing. energy didn't hyperinflate due to various technological advances (fracking, work from home, efficiency etc).

it *should* self correct via market forces but we'll see

>> No.25221305

>>25219186
>>25219325

btc has no intrinsic value. i would rather buy metal. confiscation is not a problem.

as others have observed, btc tracks the market.

>> No.25221397

>>25221047
Housing is already inflating unsustainably. All the long term assets you really want to secure a future are inflating.
Increased demand for necessities like food doesn't have to cause rising prices, production is already limited to maximize economic viability. There's plenty of food. For the prices to rise the producers have to stop producing.

>> No.25221400

>>25221305

and actually i think people usually mention confiscation for FUD effect. nobody is going door to door asking for gold, silver, platinum, or palladium. americans are armed and so mass confiscation would be much more difficult.

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>>25220222
Checked but pic is retarded on many points
>Banks need to keep a certain % of cash on hand by federal law
Reserve requirement has been 0% int he US since March and 0% in most western countries for years. Its not relevant to inter-bank lending so points about after hours monitoring and killing the overnight market are dead too.

>Banks are constantly spending your deposits on various financial instruments
Did the deep dives on this and no. They can invest deposits into 5 types of debt securities (CFR Title 12), they can't invest it into equities (National Bank Act), in their own accounts they can allocate $ to all kinds of shit including gold (12 CFR) and cash settled derivatives (OCC #949) using the money they make from ops: which comes from net interest income or investing their own capital.

>expect the Federal Treasury to step in and bail them out
kek, what is this. The Fed? The Treasury? lowest IQ part right here.

>offer up cash on the taxpayer's dime
To be clear, QE swaps reserves for treasuries, $ for $ value, on par. "bailing out" is just trading one asset for a more liquid asset and lowering the rates in the process. Other liquidity injections by the Fed are loaned, not given.

>WHY aren't other banks lending to each other
most obviously its interest they earn on reserve balances (real black pill)
and they each own a large enough share over the interbank payment network not to give a fuck.

>> No.25221838

>>25221305
>he thinks BTC can be confiscated

>> No.25222338

HYPERDEFLATION

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25222720

>>25215383
This is bullish for DOGEcoin.

>> No.25223255

Bump

>> No.25223258

you're all retarded and wrong, so allow me to explain.

The Federal Reserve operates on Keynsian economic theory. The theory posits that growth and inflation are inherently tied, because the more people spend their money, the less it becomes worth as it is more freely circulated and exchanged. Inflation is also correlated with growth, as it makes more economic sense to spend the money while it's worth more, whereas it will be worth less in the future.

In a truly libertarian market, the value of money will hyperinflate as the market gets more and more bullish. Eventually it'll hit a tipping point where long-term aggregate supply will be dwarfed by short-term aggregate demand, and it will cause a bust. Markets have a natural "boom & bust" cycle.

The role of the Federal Reserve is to control the amount of money in circulation to try and keep the rate of inflation between 2.5-3%, as this is the ideal equilibrium zone for healthy economic growth without outrunning long-term aggregate supply. In case you haven't noticed, the COVID regulations are really fucking the markets. When people aren't spending their money, we see deflation, which is bad: when deflation occurs, people would rather hold onto their dollar bills instead of purchasing goods and services, which means no economy. The reason markets are doing so well and the USD has not yet hit a horrible rate of inflation despite how much of it is being printed and distributed, is because the USD is being inflated, which is keeping the economy afloat.

Even if you disagree with the theory and think it's wrong, this is the reason more money is being printed by the Feds, and thinking anything else is not only wrong, but also gay

>> No.25223456

>>25217974
This, ignore the schizos and low iq children who say anything different

>> No.25224215

>>25216340
Bet nothing because I’m not a retard.

>> No.25224233

>>25215334
>politicians/feds are in bed with the elites.
this is like saying the manager of the local mcdonalds is in bed with the owner

>> No.25224272

>>25215383
Doesn’t that just make it more valuable

>> No.25224299

>>25215246
If you want the real answer it’s because politicians killed the economy ”protecting” us against the flu, so now they need to print even more money to keep the wheels turning.

>> No.25224376

>>25216724
what yellow should have won that

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>>25216440
>"the more people spend their money, the less it becomes worth as it is more freely circulated and exchanged"
>"the more demand there is for an asset, the less it's worth overall"

>> No.25224790

>>25215976
>But the printing itself doesn't cause inflation
Printing it self is inflation. What you meant to say is printing money might not cause price increases. But printing money might cause no price increase or no price increase but never decrease prices.

>> No.25224827

>>25216716
Don't tell Canada

>> No.25225157

>>25217695
can we take a moment to acknowledge drugs and medicine will probably be worth more than everything? and canned beans?

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>>25216440
if this is true why did everyone get a lot poorer once nixon abolished the gold standard?

>> No.25225253

>>25223258
In a libertarian market, there would be hard money and "value" would be transferred between different sectors based on consumer demand.

>> No.25225442

>>25215246
>slow velocity of money
>print shitloads for yourself
They want all the % of the currency they can so they can buy all the good shit at the last second

>> No.25225601

>>25217825
The economy is built on people buying shit they don’t need

>> No.25225717

>>25215246
Because the economy is in the shitter and nobody wants to spend or lend. Throwing money at this is textbook. I wouldn't worry about inflation; governments are struggling to stave off stagnation.

>> No.25225767

So whats the lottery ticket for when the us dorrars start to devalue?

Gold, bitcoin..what do I buy?

>> No.25225797

>>25216699
That's literally Macroeconomics 101. If you make more money by holding onto it, you will avoid spending it.

>> No.25225807

>>25225767
If the USD falters, you'll need ammo and water.

>> No.25225831

>>25215246
CBDC's. This isn't hard to see god biz is stupid.

>> No.25225864

>>25219787
That's literally the entire economy though
It's fucking retarded how muh CONSOOMPTION is so highly regarded
Oh well, s*yim will stay poor and those who invest will be based

>> No.25225900

>>25225767
Literally any hard asset that isn't fiat lol
>>25225831
Kind of this but it's MMT more than CBDCs. They're the exit strategy for when everything else fails

>> No.25225914

>>25225807

Alright, but whats the play here

Seems like something will happen in the next few months.

What are you buying into?

>> No.25225926

>>25219787
>Literally an economy based around CONSOOMERS
Wow, who woulda thought that the economy is based on the transaction of goods and services?

>> No.25225944

>>25215246
It's a rigged game. If the FED just printed Dollar on their own, people would instantly realize how the Dollar devalues because it would devalue against CAD or EUR and it would be in the news all over the place. So all economies have to print at the same time to keep the illusion that money isn't losing value at a frighteningly rapid rate.

>> No.25226001

>>25225914
>Seems like something will happen in the next few months.
Well the economy's about to be hit because the US government is going to be shutdown and the large group of people who are dependent on unemployment and rent protection are about to get fucked even harder.

>What are you buying into?
I dunno. Bitcoin? Realistically infrastructure is going to be a major focus for the Biden administration, and that'll help all sectors.

>> No.25226010

>>25225767
guns, ammo, and non-perishable foods unironically

>> No.25226041

>>25226001

What about the euro zone?

>> No.25226108

>>25226041
It's a global economy. Part of the reason you saw BTC is because real players see it as a legitimate bet against the oncoming instability.

But who knows, maybe the Democrats will win and there won't be a logjam in Washington.

>> No.25226134

>>25226108
*saw BTC rise

>> No.25226152

>>25224376
He appears to be about to move a yellow chip, which suggests to me that he's playing yellow. Yellow can actually win two ways here, which must mean that Le Chiffre plays a mean connect 4 and is merely toying with the amateurish Bond.

>> No.25226222

>>25226108

This is to hard for me

Just tell me.which assets to buy

>> No.25226228

>>25220288
Some goods are inelastic, such as food and shelter.

Explain how its a complete misunderstanding of money Anon.

>> No.25226307

>>25216440
>When people aren't spending their money, we see deflation, which is bad

no, you see deflation when either money supply is shrinking, or money supply is growing at a slower rate than economy production, neither of those things are happening

>The reason markets are doing so well and the USD has not yet hit a horrible rate of inflation despite how much of it is being printed and distributed, is because the USD is being inflated, which is keeping the economy afloat.


also wrong, the FED is not just printing money and trowing on the streets, this money that is beeing created is being used to buy assets, when the bubble burst and that money evaporates from the stock market, we'll see the real inflation

>> No.25226495

>>25221817
Read the dates of the post, chump.

>> No.25226528

>>25226222
Dude if people could predict the future there would be no losers. Just wait to see how the elections turn out and make an educated guess like the rest of us.

>> No.25226570

>>25219830
Crabs in a bucket eh

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>>25216650
I urge all of you to read pic related before it becomes impossible to find

>> No.25226820

>>25216440
Half of the respondents can't separate out an objective observation from a personal opinion.

No wonder so few of you own chainlink. Why don't you retards buy more ripple?

LMAO

>>25216613
>>25216496
>>25216686
>>25216749
>>25217842
>>25220288

>> No.25226985

>>25216185
(you)

>> No.25227117

The western economic model is literally a ponzi scheme that needs a constant flow of incoming new money, consumption and debt otherwise the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

Austrian economics is the answer. death to Keynesians.

>> No.25227154

>>25216185
Tick-tock you fucking parasite.

>> No.25228021

>>25215471
>GenX the laziest...
Faggot forgot we made the internet and are the most productive gen. We had to work harder and Smarter to afford our parents and your gens laziness. Fuck off with your lack of gratitude. We never asked for any of this, but we are quietly cleaning it up

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>> No.25228227

>>25215536
Fellow Gen X fren here. These zoomlets really need to stop
putting us in the same category as boomers. We grew up with basically the same fucked world, the same pop culture shit, aren't tech-retarded, and were on 4chan in our 20s too. We're just older versions of what they are. Boomers are a vile, dumb sub-race.

>> No.25228248

>>25215246
This is all part of the prophecy.
They'll make XRP the standard and pay off their fiat debt.
The Juden will never lose.

>> No.25228327

>>25228021
>>25228227
Gen X is definitely the saltiest generation. They're not responsible for fucking everything up like the boomers, but they're still probably the most annoying generation.

>> No.25228352

>>25216440
This is true, I love how a bunch of babs are criticizing you when your just explaining the theory.

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>>25222720
That you Elon?

>> No.25229004

>>25216496
It is working. You'd be in a bread line if it wasn't.

>> No.25229033

>>25225797
And that would be a good thing for everyone.

>> No.25230072

>>25216440
>muh systems muh ideologies but never muh joos
stfu faggot we know it's the kikes

>> No.25230196

>>25216440
failing econ 101: the post

>> No.25230291

>>25216440
>rate of inflation between 2.5-3%, as this is the ideal equilibrium zone for healthy economic growth

Kys faggot

>> No.25230423

>>25215976
But numbah only go up?

>> No.25230645

>>25216440
Several of the people in your MASS REPLY agree with you, you spastic.

>> No.25231110

>>25226623
THIS

>> No.25231170

>>25219943
This is where the Romans got it wrong. Kill the women and presto game over in a generation.

>> No.25232247

>>25220943
9/11

>> No.25232943

>>25228021
I'm GenX. I'm not cleaning shit up

>> No.25233217

>>25232943
do your job jannie

>> No.25233314 [DELETED] 

>>25215246
discord /NEpjueuzYy

Pump and dump with cryptos to have your own license to print money, it's the right of the people! Join this shiet and pump and dump on some newfag boomer investors

>> No.25233435

>>25215246
Because they know they are overleveraged and that debt will only go away if inflation goes up.

>> No.25234217

>>25219804
>inflation is still low
How did you measure that?

>> No.25234609

>>25215246
to make it easier to understand what glitch is all about
https://glitch.finance/

>> No.25234680

>>25215246
It’s unironically a race to the bottom anon.
If your currency is ever worth a damn buyers on the fx market will fomo into it. Suddenly you have no liquidity and are dealing with Great Depression 2.0 at home.

>> No.25234904

>>25227117
kek

>> No.25235324

>>25215246
Anybody else noticed how the price of real estate has shot the fuck up during this pandemic?

>> No.25235355

>>25215307
based and redpilled

>> No.25235379

>>25225157
For real.
>not storing large quantities of drugs for the inevitable collapse and becoming a post apocalyptic kingpin

>> No.25235423

>>25216185
KEK /pol/tards always coming out of the floorboard like roaches with these posts

>> No.25235510

>>25216185
>we
Kek. you'll be thrown under the bus as well retard

>> No.25235574

0xMonero

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>>25235574
nope. 0xmonero is still vaporware bullshit
just like the last hundred times you spammed it
shut up
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504

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>>25215705
But he is right?

>> No.25236482

>>25215246
big forestry is making moves

>> No.25236553

>>25215307
i cant imagine what its like to be one of those people. the high high tier icon types. steely, calculating, empty. so weird. not normal, not inherent to the human condition. some weirdo shit

>> No.25237395

Imagine still thinking you need money to live.

>> No.25237566

unironically how do i survive and secure a future for my progeny in the face of what's coming?

>> No.25237804

>>25237395
this fiat money is an illusion

>> No.25239085

>>25215246
inflation will be equalized

>> No.25239169

>>25215246
cant unwind

if interests rates go up or the money prinitng stops

millions on people insta homeless.

The gov will not survive