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Looks like $600 is the most they’re willing to give for the second stimulus

>> No.24930000
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24930000

>Sorry wagey but my corporate bros need the money more than you

>> No.24930056

This is a life changing amount of money to most normies and wouldn't even buy 2ETH or .05 BTC LOL and we haven't even started the bull market. Normies eternally priced out.

>> No.24930218

>>24929787

You conveniently left out the diversity and forced transsexualism the Democrats put in their new "proposal"

>> No.24930238

>>24930000
checked

>> No.24930258

>>24930056
Its not a life-changing amount of money to anyone outside of Jakarta

>> No.24930282

>>24930000
Quads of truth

>> No.24930292

>>24929787
I am putting all of it into crypto. I was thinking about maybe xrp and chainlink. I didn't earn this money so I don't care lol

>> No.24930314

>>24930218
why is US political system so retarded as to allow things you mentioned to be included in one proposal with fiscal policies

>> No.24930319

>>24929787
i dont see why anyone who didnt lose their job needs a stim check

>> No.24930320

We won’t see this shit until February 2022 at this rate. By then we’ll all be killed by roving packs of destitutes.

>> No.24930334

>made too much income to qualify for the first stimulus check
money printer making my inflation hedge bets moon

>> No.24930340

Should create tax incentives for small business to pay greater than minimum wages or salaries to workers.

>> No.24930375

>>24930340
Nah they won't do that but they will send billions of dollars to Israel and foreign aid to shithole brown people countries every hear

>> No.24930398

>>24930375
year*

>> No.24930408

>>24929787
And $500 million a year for israeli bombs LOL

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>>24930218
>MUH TRANNIES

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Torn:
$1200 can get me more coins AND a vidya card
$1200x200 million is a lot of deficit spending dems could use to pound GOPs into increasing capital gains tax on my golden bull run earnings next year

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>>24930375
I know. I know...

>> No.24930580

>>24929787
> Blocks your neet bucks

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>>24930314
>democrat
>expecting anything else

>> No.24930668

Ever notice how theres always money for war, Israel, and welfare gibbes, yet 600 bucks for your average working class citizen somehow brings the entire government to a glass shattering, hair pulling, teeth gnashing terrible halt? Wake up. The government fucking hates the middle class. Especially those who make their own money. There will only be mega rich and dirt poor.

>> No.24930692

>>24930292
>what is income tax?

>> No.24930707

>>24930668
You mean Republicans right. With the exception of Trump and Mnuchin the Republicans blocked Trump from doing $2000. Democrats were on board with that since forever.

>> No.24930719

>>24930421
You will NEVER be a woman.

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>>24929787

>> No.24930769

>>24930707
Democrats want to include degenerate bulls hit in it. Fuck them.

>> No.24930789

>>24930719
you will NEVER have a woman

>> No.24930804

>>24930769
Democrats have been wanting to give us money. Republicans don't, especially that fucker Rand Paul. The Fed has literally been open for more stimulus for us since it goes back into the economy anyway and all of a sudden the deficit is a problem for Republicans? Fuck them.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.24930819

>>24930707
2 sides of the same coin anon...

>> No.24930835

>>24930707
Democrats hate the middle as well. Move up the ladder? How dare you!! Time for more taxes and forced divirsity!!

Biggest lie democrats tell is "gosh wed love to provide health care/etc but gee golly we don't have enough cash!! P-pulease wouldn't you spare another few trillion! I wost dah last trillion you gave me! Honest!" And people take the bait everytime.

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>>24930789
I only want some nice femboy in anycase, go fuck yourself tranny.

>> No.24930849

>>24930668
The payment comes from middle class taxes and inflates away your savings, if you have any.

>> No.24930863

>>24930769
republicans only want asset protection for the rich and less money for the people. The dems already passed one while the republicans have only pushed for money spent on war machines.

>> No.24930867

>>24930319
because it will stimulate the economy. it's not a lost job bill, it's a stimulus bill.

>> No.24930887

>>24930844
have fun choking on tranny dick chud

>> No.24930905

>>24930789
Weak.

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>>24930000
checkt

>> No.24930914

>>24930887
Chud is old, something you will never be.

>> No.24930943

>>24930835
You're not excusing the dreadful behavior from Republicans in congress with this post, right?

>> No.24930958

>>24930258
Truth

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>>24929787
>Can’t have them getting too used to be treated like humans
>let’s wean them off
This should be a slap in the face but I’m sure some un ironic “troll chief” boomer will say something boomerish about this to try and invoke anger

>> No.24930978

>>24930863
The Republicans will feed you to the rich, the Democrats feed you to the poor. Both with replace you with poorer more complacent 3rds worlders the moment it is profittable.

>> No.24930990

>>24930905
>>24930914
angry incels

>> No.24931027

>>24930943
I am doing whatever imaginary sentences you put in my posts.

>> No.24931030

>>24930000
Checked and based.

>> No.24931050

>>24931027
I'm trying to decipher everything you're deliberating not saying.

>> No.24931064

>>24930314
always amused me how things get passed into law by someone paperclipping or stapling something into a 1000 page bill and it only gets discovered after its passed, like we live in some nigger country with a clown government.

>> No.24931119

>>24930218
This guy is fucking lying

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530843-gop-senator-blocks-bill-to-provide-1200-stimulus-checks

> GOP Sen. Ron Johnson (Wis.) on Friday blocked an effort to pass a second round of stimulus checks, arguing coronavirus relief needs to be targeted and raising concerns about the country's debt.

MUH DEBT

They don’t care about debt when it comes to cutting taxes for their donors and sucking Israel’s cock.

>> No.24931135

>>24930867
>because it will stimulate the economy
The stock market is not the economy friend

>> No.24931152

>>24931050
Schizo, the post.

>> No.24931171

I can't believe there are people redpilled enough to post on /biz/ but bluepilled enough to unironically argue Democrats vs. Republicans and not know they're both pushing the same globalist agenda that will never change short of a civil war.

>> No.24931182

>>24931119
I like how republicans are suddenly concerned with the debt again now that a democrat is coming into office lmao, what a fucking joke our political system is

>> No.24931213

>>24931182
That money is earmarked for Israel and war with Iran, you anti-semitic goy

>> No.24931241

>>24930978
I know this radical centrism sounds smart in your head but republicans are objectively worse going off the last 4 years, 2020 especially.

>> No.24931257

>>24931171
Dems = neo-libs
Reps = neo-cons

Two sides of the same coin, two management teams bidding for raping-america, inc.

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>>24930000
Checked

>> No.24931307

>>24931135
putting words in people's mouths is not what frens do

>> No.24931310

>>24929787
How can they give more? It might cause inflation!

>> No.24931331

>>24931241
I think Reddit or HasanAbi might be more your speed. Democrats have be hard line forever war and red scare for the last 16 years. They put a shinier bow on blowing up kids in the desert. You're right. I better suck their cock as hard as you. Got anymore kneepads?

>> No.24931348

>>24931307
Sorry friend I should have read who you were quoting first, apologies

>> No.24931364

>>24930707
Republicans are the main stingy ones, but Democrats play a part too, Trump tried to pass $1200 + $400 weekly unemployment backdated but Nancy blocked it because she didn’t want Trump looking good before the election.

>> No.24931378

>>24931152
It's a shame you defend Republicans from any scrutiny in this debate. Stimulus money would be beneficial for the entire economy.

>> No.24931438

Why are they all talking about china? Weren't the NEETbux supposed to be the issue?

>> No.24931439

>>24931364
Trump can’t try to pass anything considering he’s the executive branch, even if he wanted to only pass a stimulus check the Republicans filled the bill with there usual bullshit. For sure Pelosi didn’t want Trump to look good, but there was plenty of other items in that bill that turned the dems off as well.

>> No.24931452

>>24931364
Democrats aren't innocent in this, but McConnell was the main shitter in all of this.

>> No.24931477

>>24931348
I appreciate your honor. May the gods keep the wolves in the hills and women in our beds!

>> No.24931496

>>24931378
Your ability to have a conversation with yourself is amazing.

>> No.24931499

>>24931439
And obviously it goes the other way too, dems fill the bill with their usual bullshit that turns the repubs off as well, the fact that they can’t pass a bill containing a stimulus check only really goes to show how much these fucking dickheads don’t give a shit about average Americans.

>> No.24931515

>>24931364
This. Nancy Pelosi could have gotten 1.8 trillion before the election, but didn’t want trump to look good.

Now she’s gaslighting us into thinking that 900 billion is great and that she’s a master negotiator.

Both sides are shit

>> No.24931517

>>24930000
reminder that the Federal Reserve injected $1.5 trillion (600 more billion dollars than this entire bill) to "stabilize" the market while it was crashing in March, which did exactly nothing

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-to-inject-1-5-trillion-in-bid-to-prevent-unusual-disruptions-in-markets-11584033537

We need some drastic changes in this country

>> No.24931531

>>24931378
>printing money and devaluing the purchasing power of everyone's money and giving a tiny bit of money to everyone will improve the economy
This a retarded take. Even if printing money did not cause inflation, giving $5000 to every adult in America would not have a noticeable improvement on the overall economy.

>> No.24931541

>>24930867
>stimulate the economy by borrowing money
lol

>> No.24931547

>>24931517
>We need some drastic changes in this country
Trans rights are human rights friend, have you seen how diverse Biden’s cabinet is?

>> No.24931573

>>24931547
Most diverse cabinet in goldman sachs history

>> No.24931598

>>24931515
Pelosi and mnuchin were already working out before the election while trump was at walter reed. Trump nixed it the day he came out

>> No.24931642

>>24931598
Bullshit

https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-defends-rejection-trump-administrations-stimulus-offer-2020-12

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Fuck me im printing money

>> No.24931681

>>24931515
This. Cuomo basically spilled the beans that the vaccine was delayed until after the election. Democrats are just as bad. Will literally kill thousands so they can put their name on the vaccine. Suddenly the narrative is "we had the cure the whole time thanks to china". But an entire generation let Colbert and Trevor Naoh brainwash them into thinking Democrats care about you.

>> No.24931704

Was the failure of occupy wall street the final nail in the coffin for any sort of bipartisan resistance? Middle America republicans never came around and the average democrat was quickly distracted by sjw period that followed, what a real shame.

>> No.24931712

>>24931119
Yes, they never once pushed for a balanced budget amendment.

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>>24931704
failure?

>> No.24931847

>>24931742
Jesus.. They've positioned themselves where If youre against conglomerates and banks and greed you're a racist, mysognynistic, homophobic, alt right neo-nazi. Kind of genius really.

>> No.24931850

>>24931742
Based picture. Occupy wallstreet literally infected to death with LGBTQ politics to the point where giant companies like apple and Nestle that use child slave labor can wiggle colorful objects and make SJWs distracted like a toddler seeing mommies jangle keys. WOW ALL GENDER BATHROOMS!!

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>>24931704
I don't think so. OWS was driven by the massive economic implosion, resulting in a million 20-somethings without jobs.

The next crash will be larger, and will take a LONG time to recover, because "stimulus" will be the root cause. The results of such a depression will be an even larger, and likely more successful, revolt.

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>>24931847

>>24931850

>> No.24932017

Reminder that you don't actually need a $1,200 check from the government. What you need is for them to stop closing the country down so that you can get back to work.

>> No.24932043

>>24930056
>$1200
>life changing
How young are you or what shit hole country do you live in? $1200, even for someone poor, isn't jackshit. That is, at best, a months rent on a run down house with a few room for groceries and gas.

>> No.24932120

>>24929787
Its criminal they've been mulling over this deal since July and we're almost in January 2021 and the best they can do is 600 bucks. Why even bother? That's like a car payment, gas and trip to the grocery store. It does absolutely nothing....I'll take it tho and put it into eth.

>> No.24932124

>>24931947
No. There is so much new blood in the markets.

We recovered so quickly because the retailers bought the floor from under institutions who thought that we would keep on free falling.

The institutions sold off and the retailers left the Goldman Sachs empty handed at the end of the day,

So now those who sold off this current markets new highs are waiting for another crash, along with more new blood watched the recovery to buy up the dip when it happens. Boomers will think that this is "IT", they'll sell off, and those who couldn't trade due to age or what ever would continue the blood letting of the institutions.

The people who're only complain about RH are the old-brokerages who lost over a 100k of commissions from a single trader due to the elimination of commissions. Remember how the guy who bragged about the commissions in the movie "Wolf of Wall Street"? If he wasn't raided he would be howling bloody murder right now.

>> No.24932158

>>24930000
checked and republicans-can-suck-my-pills

>> No.24932173

>>24930000
checked and fpbp

>> No.24932203
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>>24932158
mother fucker chin chan i wrote f p b p and it changed it to that kek

>> No.24932240

>>24932158
ok im tripping. i thought you were me
i need to lay off the kratom
fuck me nigger fucker. i just got yeeted publicly
you literally wrote the same thing as me at the same exact time and i thought it got changed automatically.

>> No.24932243

>>24930320
Good, the collapse of the jewmerica bully couldn’t come soon enough.

>> No.24932244

>>24931496
>doesn't deny it
Seems like I was right.
>>24931531
I don't think anyone mentioned $5K to everyone. There is a stark difference between $1-$2K to $5K.

>> No.24932259

>>24929787
>"trillions for me"
>"pennies for thee"
they deserve the rope. way overdue

>> No.24932261

>>24930692
These stimulus payments are tax free, retard.
>>24930707
Trump just says shit but never does anything. He said 2k because he knows it would never pass but his cult following will point to it and say "look! He tweeted it! He's such a great president". He could easily use executive order to push out payments as he stated he would back in August but then he got to busy putting that handsmaid into the Supreme Court and became obsessed with muh voter fraud. If you only follow his tweets, it appears he's doing something for the American people, but in reality he's done nothing and nor will biden unless you're black and/or poor as fuck.

>> No.24932360

>>24931957
WOOOOOAH SOCIAL CHANGE IN OUR TIME!! DUUUUDE IT'S A REVOLUTION!! JOIN THE CONVERSATION (tm). The revolution WILL be televised!!!

>> No.24932384

>>24931119
do they just give $1200 to everyone rich or poor?

>> No.24932430

>>24932244
You tell that person. Got'eeeeeem! Who are you talking to again?

>> No.24932437

>>24931119
We know this, but some retards ITT continue excusing Republicans in all of this. It's kinda sad to watch.

>> No.24932450

>>24930056
>$600
>$1200
>life changing money
you must be from 1930's or just a retarded

>> No.24932487

>>24932450
$600 is like 2 extra paychecks for most Americans.

>> No.24932563

>>24932261
what Biden administration will do if allowed is castrate us with taxes, regulations, restrictions up the wazoo.
at least Trump is pro America and pro American business.
Bidens idiot crew will cut off our very own hands in the retarded corrupt leftist March of some moral crusade about inclusion, diversity, equality, intersectionality, muh gender, BLM Something something

actually wanting a Biden administration in charge is about as intelligent as cutting off your own arms and legs because someone said they were offended by your athleticism

>> No.24932657

>>24931064
does it happen physically as you have described it?
are you telling me that is the basis of many laws which govern americans?

>> No.24932701

>>24929787
Can't let the serfs have even a crumb of their own money back but this guy will be first in line to bail out billion dollar corporations.

>> No.24932805

>>24930668
It's never a question of if they can pay for something they actually want because they literally just print what they need. It is in their personal interests, but not in the nation's interest nor is it in the interest of those who these people ostensibly serve.
But these individual politicians all have their deals, their buyouts, their future exec positions, their big ass estates, ranches, cars, security detail, private jets, their way better than anyones health care plans, etc.
They have it all, and they will take even more.

>> No.24932923

>>24930835
Retard. The Republicans have been blocking healthcare for the reasons you stated. Not Dems. Theyre both shit but on healthcare it's the Republicans who are fucking us.

>> No.24933031

>>24932244
>I don't think anyone mentioned $5K to everyone. There is a stark difference between $1-$2K to $5K.
I am emphasizing that handing out cash to people, regardless of how much, does not make any difference in the economy. You missed the point.

>> No.24933071

>>24932923
Just need mo money to pay for it is all. Notice neither ever mentions cutting down war machine and foreign spending. No rebalancing. Its cause that meanie Jeff Bezos using tax loopholes we wrote!

>> No.24933183

If this doesn’t happen before government shut down we have to wait until Jan 25th to resume the negotiations.

>> No.24933385
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>>24932923
>>24930668
>>24930707
>>24930804
>>24930863
>>24931182
>>24931364
>>24931378
>>24932923
Listen Faggots. Centralized Socialist policy is Dysgenic no matter whether it goes to corrupt Mega-Corps or a bunch of Welfare Niggers. It incentives collective corruption and laziness, and encourages the kind of normie crab bucket mentality that turns people into onions. YOUR PROBLEM, is you think you aren't getting a big enough slice of the pie, rather then any fundamental belief people will actually improve their lot in life with this cheque(which is what they're supposed to do), because you KNOW this financial redistribution is corrupt.
>b-but muh trillions for wall street
How many of you queers will actually bring up the Federal Reserve with your socialite butt buddies? None, because you all rely on exorbitantly inefficient lifestyles to keep your petri-dishes fed.

Death to Global-Homo Corps. Death to Pinko Commies. And Death to any Fag who thinks the (((government))) is the solution, and not the problem.

>> No.24933629

>people riot over some black dude getting killed by the police
>nobody is rioting over mounting unemployment, mass evictions next month, no stimulus for the people
What the fuck? This country is so backwsswards

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>>24933629
THIS IS RACISM

>> No.24933714

>>24931517
The difference is the Fed doesn't just hand out money like stimulus checks. They "inject money" by buying back Treasuries (bills, notes, and bonds).

>> No.24933805

>>24933629
America is a fallen nation. It has 10 years MAX after.
Short the dollar unironically.

>> No.24933832

>>24929787
your country is greedy af

>> No.24933837

>>24933714
>They "inject money" by buying back Treasuries (bills, notes, and bonds).
So the Feds hand out corporate stimulus checks?

>> No.24933871

>>24930000
Chked comrade

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>deep ass limit buy hat shouldn't have filled just filled

>> No.24933922

>>24933629
too many people are brainwashed by media
most useful idiots are completely indoctrinated to the programmed agenda, or are so mindfucked by it all they are useless and largely harmful to themselves and others

>> No.24933992

>>24933920
Wrong thread but to make it relevant I hope Congress gives me more money to buy intraday dips.

>> No.24934016

>>24932043
Buy me a new switch

>> No.24934087

>>24933837
No they provide liquidity by buying back bonds early. The bonds they buy are worth not much less than the amount of money "injected." So it is very different from just giving away trillions. If they didn't buy them now they would still owe the money to the bond holder later.

>> No.24934215

Wouldn’t giving $1200 to each American in the US cost the government $3.9 trillion alone?

>> No.24934647

>>24932261
Excuse me? Trump did get Israel all of those normalization deals, even offering tax-payer money to Sudan to make the deal go through. That is not doing nothing!

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>>24929787
I WANT MY SECOND ROUND OF TRUMPBUX AND I WANT IT NOW

>> No.24935095

>>24932261
He said 2K because he holds XRP

>> No.24935241

>>24930000
well if they need it its fine i guess. I would probably just spend it on something stupid anyway

>> No.24935382

>>24929787
How else are we supposed to have enough money for the small businesses of two employees to have their multi-million PPP no strings attached loans they don't have to pay back?

>> No.24935408

>>24929787
Muh republicans are for the people

>> No.24935430

>>24930056
how poor are you?

>> No.24935441

>>24934215
400 billion math boi, but I think only a third of all Americans qualify so it would be closer to 120 billion

>> No.24935563

>>24934215
It was always just for people who've filed their taxes or their dependents. Last time around the $1200 was less than a trillion. If anything it's giving taxpayers back their own fucking money the government hadn't already gave to Israel. Far from "muh socialism" some of the mouth breathers are screaming about here.

>> No.24935590

It’s legitimately only nazis/antisemites with reasonable policies on economics/socialism. Everyone else in this thread is a coon for kikes and capitalists that literally hate them and imports non whites to racially humiliate/subjugate them

>> No.24935692

>>24934215
No. You don’t have to send it to EVERYONE in the US. the CARES act that was passed earlier this year only cost 300b to send $1200 to every working American that filled tax returns in the past 1-2 years. The government is just too fucking stingy and would rather give out blank checks to large corporations.

>> No.24935772

>>24935692
How they finklethinked Republicans into being total retards arguing that any aid to them is socialism still baffles me in this. They obviously hate lockdowns because of the economic ramifications but can’t piece together that corporations/ kosher con inc is stealing all the wealth while they argue for nothing and the libtards argue for regular White peoples entire livelyhood

>> No.24935856

>>24933385
Take your meds

>> No.24935872

$600 will be enough to buy 0.06 ETH by this time next year lmao

>> No.24935910

>>24935590
Based

>> No.24935924

>>24935772
It's a side effect of how polarized and retarded American politics has gotten. One side wants five trillion UI checks until the end of time while the other wants literally fucking $0 because "just get a job lmao". Meanwhile working Americans will continue to get absolutely ass raped by a billion taxes state and federal for the pleasure of living in this shit hole.

No """""socialism""""" fine but I don't want another cent of my money going to some NY billionaires yacht fund or funding "muh only democracy in the middle east".

>> No.24935954

>>24932487
No it isn't. Median income is about $50k
$600 is an extra four days of income for most americans

>> No.24936063

>>24931064
we do tho

>> No.24936242

>>24935954
minus taxes insurance and retirement 600 a week makes sense

>> No.24936277

>>24932657
Yes it really does and the bills they pass this way are called riders. Bills that don't include extra bullshit are called skinny bills. Its funny that they don't mention the original stimulus proposal was more money but it was a skinny bill so dems denied it

>> No.24937148

>>24931642
>The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

>> No.24937184

>>24933837
No, the Treasury does. If the Treasury needs the money, it creates bonds that get gobbled at auction, which in turn get a portion bought by the Fed using US dollars that it "prints". The Fed also buys corporate bonds indirectly through ETFs that hold said bonds. It's a loop hole. Either way, the Fed does "print money" or "print stimulus checks". The system is more complicated, but still just as stupid.