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>> No.24883097
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my CLF 13.11 order didn't get filled yesterday so tonight I will try 13.37

>> No.24883122

I own some SPCE, I'm so fucked tomorrow

>> No.24883134

I don't understand BTC. Why does it have value?

>> No.24883135
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MARA

>> No.24883148
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>>24883062
Their e-commerce sales alone in 2020 are greater than their market cap. Cohen is still involved and the rumor is he's doing the rounds with institutional investors to get support. Holiday sales report is the next big catalyst. Still 140% shorted. Still easily solvent.>>24883062
Their e-commerce sales alone in 2020 are greater than their market cap. Cohen is still involved and the rumor is he's doing the rounds with institutional investors to get support. Holiday sales report is the next big catalyst. Still 140% shorted. Still more cash than debt.

>> No.24883185
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Trading is fun :)

>> No.24883189

>>24883148
also MARA and BITF.V are potentially ridiculous money printers if Bitcoin holds this level

>> No.24883190

>>24883134
It doesn't. It's just a very convenient way of cheating your way into wealth.

>> No.24883206

>>24883134
cause people believe. Just remember the tulips bubble

>> No.24883222

>>24883134
Some people believe BTC will become widely adopted and even be used as a global currency, which I highly doubt. If the government adopts BTC, it would mean losing control over the money supply and economy.

>> No.24883236

>>24883134
Stock to flow ratio and decentralization.

>> No.24883243

r8 h8 b8

GME 200 shares @ 15.18
6x GME DEC18 15C @ .14
4x GME JAN21 15C @ 1.83
3x GME JAN29 15C @ 2.15

10x LUMN APR21 15C @ 0.13
1x PSTH JAN21 25C @ 2.65
5x SPY DEC21 378C @ .20

>> No.24883258

>>24883185
one ticket pls

>> No.24883274

>>24883134
Because people use it

>> No.24883280

14th for BUD
where my buddies at?

>> No.24883305

What do you guys think about KOMP as a long term hold? Any other similar etfs for emerging industries?

>> No.24883312

>>24883097
It dumps everyday dw fren

>> No.24883355

AAPL $128c next friday? Yes/no?

>> No.24883356

GIS earnings tomorrow morning

>> No.24883362

>>24883052
>just closed abcl for a loss
>fomo ipo
>dumbass

Shill me something

>> No.24883386

Bullbros!

We are making money EVERY DAY. Every day! Based god, nigga

Gonna cop some more stonks today

>> No.24883395

>>24883134
>they want to believe

>> No.24883405

>>24883052
i invested like 300 and made $120 in clf. i bought $700 worth of shares and its made me like $80 so. not sure if i should be happy for clf chad or not i get angry whenever it dips all day but im still up like 50% on one and 10% on the other one

>> No.24883415

>>24883355
At least catch the Q4 earnings pump.

>> No.24883416
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why the fuck is the DAX pumping, car sales down 16% and car manufacturers are still pumping, the market doesn´t price in any bad news anymore

>> No.24883424

>>24883362
MARA, if you believe that normies will FOMO boogaloo

>> No.24883447

>>24883416
EVs breh

>> No.24883451

>>24883424
Post your calls position

>> No.24883460
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DXY down pretty hard, gold and /es trucking along naisu naisu
>>24883356
Oooh they unironical look like they're at a critical level, like they could pop back to 60 real fast. If it's bad they could fly through the thin volume between 57.50 and 53.50 tho o_o
I bought some Cinnamon Toast Crunch this week and it's d-lish, pray for them

>> No.24883462

>>24883362
Unironically ABCL
I'm about to FOMO into MARA TBQHWYMD

>> No.24883468

>>24883134
Why does anything has value? It's psychology. BTC is just very liquid and very scarce, thus "digital gold".

>> No.24883482
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>BTC at ATH again and again
>DOW also reaches new ATH in premarkets

So this is it then, the market will dump to zero in maybe 3 weeks at best. Well it was fun while it lasted anyway.

>> No.24883508

>>24883451
I don't do options. Not enough leeway to do those, yet. But I hop on at 5 post dump 2 weeks ago

>> No.24883509

>>24883362
TLS. Cyber security firm with spook connections.

>> No.24883526

UK #COVID19 vaccine rollout may be delayed. The IT system used to keep track of who has been vaccinated 'fails constantly.' Authorities struggled to publish vaccination figures until today.

Uh oh PLTR chads

>> No.24883546

>>24882837
>Income assets
Yes, anything that adds to my cash flows. Like dividends, or rental income, etc
>Current % breakdown
This is dependant on your risk tolerance, general view of the market environment, and where you are personally. I, like many of us here on the chans, have a high risk tolerance, and can handle volatility. I have a Bullish sentiment of the overall market, and the future. I also wont need the money i invest anytime soon. I'm 80% stocks, 20% cash. 40% of my book value is dividends. the rest is growth. however, because growth has outperformed my MARKET value is now 90% growth. cash excluded.
> Interest rates
Effect. Everything. If its free, or near free, to borrow money, Why would you use your own?!?!? If the bank offered you 1 mil at 1%. that's 10k to have access to $1 mill. You'd be retarded not to take it. Where now do you put it? Where you can get the highest rate of return! Bonds? No. Low yield, then inflation adjusted? you LOSE money. That money is going to Stocks. Corporations are using free money to leverage up and grow. Institutions are always looking for high yield, and low risk. Stocks are high yield. low interest rates and Fed buying corporate bonds( buying the debt ) are removing risk from stocks. Stocks are the best game in town. Now you can see why everything is so overbought. Lust for Yield.
>2023
Expect the market to dip on higher interest. All those loans? unless they're at a fixed interest, those payments are going up. good companies will have kept the balance sheet in check. Banks!! love high interest rates!! Loans are how they make money! It'll be a good day for the canadian big 5 when rates go up.
> Sell
No, I look at stocks like ownership in businesses. Not moving price numbers that i try to trade for higher day to day. I buy things that i think will be worth more in the future, then hold them. I own those companies. I care what, and how they do. Invested in them!! Literally.

>> No.24883550

>>24883526
don´t worry, the market doesn´t care about bad news

>> No.24883553

>>24883416
Bobo why are you so fucking STUPID?
We are in a huge bull market where EVERYTHING goes up

And you sit there and try to short

I’m lmaoing at your life

>> No.24883556

>>24883416
gme would like to talk

>> No.24883575

>>24883482
This is it, the exit pump to end all exit pumps before the great reset

>> No.24883591

>>24883416
by playing the quantum strings of the cosmos like a god damn fiddle and a meme bow.

>> No.24883595

/fit/izen here bizbros. I need help.

Im wagie for worldline, they offered usto buy wln stock with 20% discount compared to current market prices.

Problem is you cannot sell it right after, you must hold it for 5 years.

Im literal smg brainlet. Should i buy or am i getting fucked by a corp?

>> No.24883596
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someone on instagram said theres secret trillionaires no one knows about and its the rockerfellers and shit and they made billions and billions dollars a hundred years ago and just been holding it onto for generations and they turned it into trillions over year and they can control the stock market and crash it and manipulate any way they want

are they the ones responsible the april pump? just put everything in during a crash and make it all double and triple in 6 months

>> No.24883610

>>24883134
Its our generations version of the gold rush and youre missing ouy

>> No.24883622

>>24883595
/goback/ tourist.

>> No.24883633

>>24883595
warren buffet is like 40% apple its probably a safe bet for 5+ years and jeff bezos and amazon revenue goes up every year still and he keeps doubling his net worth

or just any etf would be safe

>> No.24883644

>>24883595
Take it, you'll be fine. Look at the chart. If you believe your company will grow in the next 5 years like it has in the last 5, you might as well.

>> No.24883648

>>24883134
Why does TSLA have value? Why does literal paper (not even backed by real gold) have value?

Things have value because people value them, that's the basic rule of valuation. No one gives a shit about what is actually produced as long as you can convince them that this is the wave of the future that will stand the test of time. Anyone disagreeing is a retard because otherwise gold should only be as valuable as the machines which need to run on it, which isn't the case because it is a store of value still coveted by all major governments even the ones that use pure fiat currency.

>> No.24883650
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>>24883596
you are correct sir. believe in them. be scared and never put your money in the market. they are trying to get you.

>> No.24883653

>>24883596
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_crash

be aware normie, rugpull is imminent.

>> No.24883662

>>24883553
> DAX crabbing for years
> Germany in full lockdown since wednesday
> record Covid deaths and hospitalisations
> possible no deal Brexit

Yes I underestimated the absolute insanity of these people

>> No.24883665

>>24883595
cheap stonks is cheap stonks. consider it a investment to go on a cruise in 5 years.

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>>24883596
You've got the right idea, but the wrong culprits.

>>24883653
March proved circuit breakers work. Just sell everything if we're about to touch one.

>> No.24883673
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>>24883596
Wait until this faggot finds out about the Queen and the Rothschilds and the Aster family and the Morgans and the Warbergs.

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>orange juice futures continuing up

>> No.24883688

>>24883673
is it only jews? theres no asians?

>> No.24883690

>>24883662
lockdowns will be a nuance by march, and vaccines will be implemented on a large scale, numming the brains of everyone who takes it, a lot like flouride in our drinking water

>> No.24883710

>>24883679
MILK

>> No.24883725
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what's your outlook for today bros?

>> No.24883733

>>24883690
>numming the brains of everyone who takes it, a lot like flouride in our drinking water
Based and redpilled

We gotta herd the nigger cattle!

>> No.24883754

>>24883725
Kinda feels like gap up sell off flat close.

>> No.24883756
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THE DOT IS FUCKING PURPLE

>> No.24883779

>>24883596
>theres secret trillionaires no one knows about
Compounding intergenerational wealth. Simple. That, and they've been around and built the chess board we're all playing on.
>control the stock market
Ridiculous, Now.. long term macro environments? Absolutely.
>responsible the april pump
No, that was the Fed and institutions buying the dip, consolidating, and further centralizing their power. Because they know how to play the game. But the Rothschilds aren't sitting there on their Schwab account buying the Dip. They own things indirectly, like through blackrock. Have you seen the REAL ESTATE blackrock owns? That. is their true power.

>> No.24883783

>>24883725
It feels very blow-off-toppy

probably do nothing, shitpost about my green numbers, and masturbate. I don't think this will be the big March tier rugpull yet.

>> No.24883785

>>24883756
>purple dot
>purple ID
What did kek mean by this?

>> No.24883795

>>24883688
There are japanese zaibatsus that are left over from WWII, yes, but the bank of japan itself has so much power over japanese society and is controlled by ethnic japanese people.

The Chinese have many new billionaires, but the old wealthy were mostly liquidated or lost their wealth when they fled to taiwan, with the exception of the rich members of the communist party who largely lost their wealth fighting the civil war.

>> No.24883810

>>24883785
invest in PRPL I guess idk taking stock advice from the color of anon's IDs seems even more retarded than usual so it'll probably work

>> No.24883816

>>24883688
CCP has royal families

>> No.24883818

>>24883733
Wait for the Billboards and commercials in 10 years, hopefully ill be a lawyer by then


>DID YOU TAKE THE COVID VACCINE IN 2020-2021? YOU COULD HAVE FREEEEE MONEYZZZZZZZZZ

>> No.24883826

>>24883756
>>24883785
STAHP

>> No.24883828

>>24883243
Hope the squeeze happens this week.

>> No.24883840

>>24883818
>take Pfizer vaccine knowing it's a stupid idea
>be part of the 98% or whatever who DON'T end up paralyzed
>pretend to be paralyzed
>big cash settlement
>go to a black church and have them do a laying of hands thing
>miraculously walk again
>rich and famous overnight

>> No.24883847

>>24883783
The next big dump might happen if Biden issues a national lockdown, a good chance of that happening in order to do the vaccine rollout faster.

>> No.24883879
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>>24883840 and the first thing you say to the press is "buy GME"

>> No.24883888

>>24883840
You realize the “stimulus” will prevent anyone from suing these companies right

>> No.24883900

>>24883818
They'll just make a "study" and find that corona was actually the cause of the eventual sickness like they did with the Swedish vaccines that led to narcolepsy in 2009.

>> No.24883923

Leave cheap shitty coins, don’t be an dumper! Go base and make money while they are making Rebase!

>> No.24883932

>>24883888
ah, but you see, I'm a leaf, and trudy is too much of a cuck to pass matching liability legislation here

checked btw

>>24883879
supremely based

>> No.24884001

>>24883932
geez fucking being american sucks, we literally gave a german pharmaceutical company the right to kill us with no penalty, how fucking insane is that?

>> No.24884020

What's the best way to get exposure to crypto via the market? Or is it really worth setting up some way of buying crypto?

>> No.24884030

>>24883362
Just buy QQQ
If you are poor, you could buy spce or gme and sell covered calls.

>> No.24884047

>>24884001
no no Canada is worse
https://youtu.be/81n1gnf2cEA

>> No.24884053 [DELETED] 

I'm on RH and can't buy MARA. Is it worth getting RIOT tomorrow? Will it keep pace if BTC keeps mooning?

>> No.24884076

>>24884053
Get a real broker, you have no excuse. If you have access to Robinhood you have access to Ameritrade, which Canadians would skin you alive to get

>> No.24884082

>>24883134
I don't get it either. To me it holds no real value.

>> No.24884098
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Why exactly should I stay away from Chinese stocks?
Europe is by far a bigger shithole and poeple are preferring Euro-Stocks over Chinese Stocks
And in the US you have to hire some trannies now in order to not get delisted

China (and somer other asian countires) seem like a better option to me

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I've made more money this year trading shitcoins, than stocks.

Anyone else?

>> No.24884103

people start to FOMO into Bitcoin

>> No.24884119

>>24884082
>>24883134
Ask yourselves
>why does fiat have value?
>why does gold have value
the answers are "purchasing power" and "stock to flow ratio" respectively, bitcoin provides both

>> No.24884124

>>24884098
They lie a lot and fudge their books, that's the only reason. If i knew they were well regulated id be balls deep in china.

>> No.24884135

>>24884030
QQQ or OGIG
>mr. Wonderful
100% ytd

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What is "value"?

>> No.24884157

>>24884098
High risk/high reward play, Chinx are not exactly transparent or high quality by any means, investing in early meme runs is way safer (anything to do with Musk, Thiel, Branson or any other pop culture billionaire)

>> No.24884163

>>24884098
The thing about chink stocks are that they lie a shitton and sometimes they can just get absolutely fucked by the government out of nowhere.

>> No.24884173

So stimulus is happening?

>> No.24884177
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>>24884098
Watch the China Hustle

good night /smg/

>>24884150
a bag of sand that tastes like salty coins

>> No.24884209

It appears something paranormal is happening to me boys. My Door keeps opening and closing for no reason

>> No.24884229

>>24883923
Sir, yes a good release will come to you if you buy good coin, very stiff coin, green coin sir.

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>>24884177
oh before I sleep
based uber posted a model update

>> No.24884255

Damn, we gapping up tomorrow or what?

>> No.24884256

Is MARA worth the premarket price (over $10) or will it drop later in the day?

>> No.24884301

MT sure is a comfy hold.

>> No.24884316

>>24883243
You are FUCKED

>> No.24884321

>>24884119
But I will always know someone who wants to buy gold. That I know 100%. People, generally, assign an intrinsic value to gold. This is why gold naturally established itself as the most sought after precious resource over hundreds of years. Does BTC offer me a similarly backed guarantee?

>> No.24884336

what does it mean when people say you cant beat the market? is that like every single stock in existence averaged together? or just the nasdaq and sp500

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Thanks to $GME physical discs are now faster than buying a digital copy to download.

If your internet speed is slower than 300 mbps assuming a physical game saves 90 GB of data at a 40 min delivery time GameStop is faster.

>> No.24884406

>>24884336
They base it on the efficient market hypothesis. So if you're beating the market your method will eventually no longer work, or was just luck to begin with.

>> No.24884408

>>24884375
you still have to install the game after that but yeah physical is better

>> No.24884421

god damnit why didnt i buy more SPACS they are literaly shitcoins

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>niggas still shilling B&M in a digital age
get a life

>> No.24884431 [DELETED] 

>>24884408
you dont have to install the full game though the disc stores a part of it and the argument is that doordash can get your game running faster than if you downloaded it

>> No.24884450

>>24884336
Lordy. Typically it means the S&P500. The 500 largest companies in the US, that is the most representative of the US market.
>people say you cant beat the market
They don't say that. People are usually trying to outperform the market. They use it as a benchmark.

>> No.24884455

>>24884375
stocks aside that's one of the two main appeals owning a physical copy has for me. since I live in a shittier part of eurostan internet speed is shit.
the other appeal is owning physical sometimes looks pretty. witcher 3 gave me a map of the world, official ost, some stickers and a thank you note from cdpr.

>> No.24884463

>>24884336
Think about it this way. A passive index fund is a sample of certain stocks, and charges comparatively low fees for assets under management.

A mutual fund, packed to the gills with active investors, tries to outperform this metric. You would expect to see 50% beat it and 50% not beat it if it were completely random.
However, only 29% of them beat it.
Ask yourself why that is. These are the best and brightest managers working for the fund.
Also, only like 10% of funds are able to have any consistent performance over a few years, which is consistent with random success
And then think of your portfolio, which doesn't even have the benefit of fast news and insider trading.
Unsurprisingly, even fewer day traders make money, about 20%.

>> No.24884472

Quebec’s court has declared guilty of fraudulent advertising. And of not listing all of it’s ingredients.
The so called chicken is only mad from 50%chicken. Therefore it was a lie to call it chicken.
A collective lawsuit is being filled. And Subway will have to pay millions in damages, to the customers they frauded.

How do you think it will affect their stock?

>> No.24884487 [DELETED] 

>>24884455
actually the main appeal of physical is that you buy your game then you can sell it for like 40 instead of 60 if you dont like it you just saved 40 dollars

wheras a steam game you deposit 60 and you lose 60 guaranteed

theres no recouping any of it to buy games

>> No.24884496

Should I buy MSTR? I can see it going to $1K if BTC keeps climbing.

>> No.24884513

>>24884463
Comparing apples to oranges on accident. 20% of day traders succeeded in turning a PROFIT in general. Far, far fewer actually beat the market.

>> No.24884525

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO MODERNA??? I was up fucking 90% two weeks ago and now it's dropping 15% every day.

>> No.24884532

>>24884472
>millions in damages
What are millions to billions? And will people stop eating at subway?

>> No.24884565

IS BITCOIN EVER GONNA FUCKING STOP HOLY MOTHERFUCKX

>> No.24884569

>>24883134
It's useful for money laundering and black market purchases. The only value of BTC is you convert it into USD or some other real currency. That's about it. So it's value is that it is worth 20k USD but you can use it in exchanges without using USD and using channels that facilitate USD. Make sense? You can buy drugs. Okay there.

>> No.24884572

>>24884472
who cares

>> No.24884592 [DELETED] 

>>24884455
the REASON big corporations created digital download on their consoles is so they can avoid people giving their games to their friends and trading games and selling of used games market because these are all sales microsoft or sony miss out on

theoretically only one person needs to buy a game and pass it on to their friend and nobody would ever have to pay for games anymore and corporations hate this

>> No.24884603

is it time to get back into xom

>> No.24884604

>>24884525
Not sure, hoping I didn't miss the peak, luckily I got in for 32.88 though. Maybe I should start selling some. Probably everyone is thinking that causing a dip.

>> No.24884615

>>24884592
plus microsoft and sony makes money every time you buy it and theres no shelf space so they just have ways to get you to pay for more shit

>> No.24884617 [DELETED] 

thats why it makes me sick when people say haha i just download off steam xD blockbuster

>> No.24884631

>>24883134
As long as TSLA exists, the stock market can claim no superiority to crypto.
>>24884525
>vaccine play when vaccines exist
Longing vaccine companies was always a bad idea. It was time and R&D spent on something that government and societal pressure was always going to make have razor thin margins.
It was more that buying stock in the companies was meant as good will towards their efforts. MRNA execs are also scum, so there is that.

>> No.24884662

>>24884098
You have to have CCP party members on the board to be a company in China as well as have party members scattered throughout the company. They really aren't any different than trannies with how useless they are. Chinese companies carry the risk in that they work for the CCP, not the investors or board. If they are told fudge the numbers, they fudge the numbers. If they are told to cheat on their products, they will cheat on their products. If you know this going in, you are better off. Look at Vietnam.

>> No.24884664

>>24884525
because of game theory. Everybody wants to dump this stock tomorrow, so in anticipation of that they're trying to beat the approaching dip and get out now.

Also BNTX lost 30% in like 2 days after getting approved, which made people realize the same thing would happen to MRNA. So they got out early. Plus there was bad news about vaccine side effects

>> No.24884721

>>24884662
Plus they are going to have a demographic crisis in the coming decades, slowing growth. Other emerging markets will give better returns. Regardless, unless you're a chink, staying away from their stocks is a good bet.

>> No.24884723

>>24883134
kek, the fools are starting to ask this question again
you will buy around 35k I think

>> No.24884754

>>24884631
>the stock market can claim no superiority to crypto.
Ridiculous. Stock market is backed by Assets. real estate, companies with cash flow, Commodities, food, energy. You know, productive things. Just because you think TSLA is overbought, doesn't equate the stock market as a whole, to crypto. Don't be a faggot.

>> No.24884768

>>24884487
Steam has a generous refund policy, though.

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>>24884487
yeah, the thing is I live in a culture where gaming isn't big at all, here playing vidya equates you to playing with legos or angry birds. there is no demand here for a business like GME.

>>24884592
digital downloads are double-edged sword with the sharper edge being point toward us consoomers.

at the end of the day I don't care much since I pirate most games I play, the ones I do buy I make sure to buy some time after they release (see cyberpunk, probably).

>> No.24884815 [DELETED] 

>>24884768
nope it says 2 hours playtime and youre locked in
and 2 weeks without 2 hours playtime

physical you can sell it months later

youre guaranteed a portion of your money

buying digital is just a losing proposition

when you add in the storage you save on a disc too and the fact that gme can get you your game faster than you can download it

theres no reason to download games its obsolete

>> No.24884845

>>24884532
Probably not as much as the disgust people will now have, when thinking about them and their fakechicken.

I wish I had kept all my receipts. You can claim 1000CAD for every chicken sandwich ordered at a subway in Quebec, from 2014 to 2017.

You may claim more, if you have any allergies.

>> No.24884849

>>24884815
This isn't how the masses are going to think about it though, that's why digital downloads are catching on. Plus game makers will eventually make it all a streaming 'service' and make you just pay them monthly forever.

>> No.24884868

>>24884721
China is about due for them to chimp out on each other and cause a hundred million deaths from starvation. I'm not even joking. They do that like every 100-200 years. All that it would take for that to happen is for some high ranking party member to decide he wants to roll his tanks to the Forbidden city. He doesn't even need to succeed. Just any sort of display like that will cause a domino effect of chimping.

>> No.24884873

>>24884472
Bill Ackman will get Subway at a discount with PSTH

>> No.24884889

>>24884336

It means you cannot deliver alpha long enough for it to be statistically meaningful.

>> No.24884896

>>24884868
I've been hoping for this to happen, but the way Xi controls the masses these days brainwashing them seems to be working, it's possible Xi could counter any coup attempt.

>> No.24884908

bought stm electronics at 34 usd
what the fuck do i do with this stock

>> No.24884910

Its as easy as that you larping faggots

>> No.24884927

>>24884815
>theres no reason to download games its obsolete
You just use one of the numerous services that magically sell the games for less than retail because they might have bought them on stolen credit cards/gift cards. Most of these are legit. Just resellers of CD-keys.

>> No.24884932 [DELETED] 

>>24884849
gaming is different clearly when 90% of ps5 demand is for the disc tray and theyre paying 100$ more for a fucking disc drive they know the value theyre saving with it in the long term

digital is going away people hate corporations

theyll sell them trannys on their digital streaming and nobody will like it

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>>24884910

>> No.24884947

>>24884932
I sincerely hope you're right, I just think they'll take away the options and the masses will just accept it.

>> No.24884955

>>24884945
OP why you don't hold sentinel yet?

>> No.24885033

>>24884896
>it's possible Xi could counter any coup attempt.
He most certainly would. It doesn't really matter if he does or doesn't however. What matters is that it will cause a chimp out and Xi will have to scramble to get everyone back in line. Xi is a strong leader. Strongest since Mao. The problem is that through out Chinese history, government's are held together by a thread. Anyone who has had the "pleasure" of traveling to China for work knows that nation is nothing but crabs in a bucket. Everyone is trying to climb on top of every one else just to have it a little bit better. If there is even a small sense of doubt in Xi's ability to hold together in a coup, tons of rats will jump from the ship and start pulling down other ships.

There is also another issue. Xi is old but he is also a fairly hard worker who has hard a hard life. Anyone who knows old Chinese people like this knows that they are ticking time bombs. Their hearts literally explode. Even if they seem healthy. If he suddenly dies, China doesn't really have anyone to fill his shoes. The party used to be structured to have a boring middle man at the top with mediocrity prevailing. Xi stopped that and set it up to be Mao 2.0. Problem is that as far as we know, there isn't really a "successor."

>> No.24885043

>>24884321

Yes. your gold is guaranteed to be stolen sometime no matter what. btc can't.

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>>24884955
Ill never tell

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>>24884927
gme should start selling verified cd keys its a legitimate factor in all of this

but Gamestop has always been almost entirely console gaming based so that hasnt really come into play that much so far

>>24884947
why would sony and microsoft leave the disc tray this time around they were already thinking about doing this last console cycle going digital

because theres legitimate pressure from the marketplace saying nobody will buy their corporate store box

>> No.24885056

>>24884815
So figure out within 2 hours of playtime whether you actually want to keep the game. It's not as flexible as a hard copy, but it's still a strong option. Buying on Steam lets you stay at home and also means that you'll never lose your game just from misplacing the disc. It also means that you don't have a disc taking up physical space, and you don't have to swap discs when you want to play a different game.

Also: The fastest load times can only be achieved by installing to an SSD. Installing a game from a disc takes time, so your argument about discs requiring less time is actually flawed.

Also also: I just re-read your first post. Games do not take up 90 GB of space. They take around 5 GB of space (usually less), and only extremely large games go beyond that.

>> No.24885075

>>24884932
>90% of ps5 demand is for the disc tray and theyre paying 100$ more for a fucking disc drive
Apple basically killed the disc drive in computers even though there was still a huge demand for a disc drive. I remember Steve Ballmer used to mock Apple for removing their drives so they could have a better form. But hey, form took off. Now many PCs and laptops require an external drive. All it would take is for console makers to say "Hey, no more drive!" People will bitch and whine but when it comes to launch day. Millions of coonsomers will line up for their GoyStation 7.

>> No.24885087

>>24884889
Then why are algorithms trying to datamine /smg/ and r/WBS for sentiment analysis? If we have no alpha, that wouldn't be neccessary. And for algorithms to successfully nullify that would require them to distinguish between shitposting and non-shitposts, which is wildly optimistic when captcha still thinks mailboxes are parking meters.

NAK NAK NAK GME GME GME HTZ HTZ HTZ PENIS PENIS PENIS

>> No.24885124

>>24883052
Buy $LAND Anon, God ain't making more of it.

>> No.24885130

>>24885075
Okay, but we're talking about reality right now, not your gay ass hypothetical for two console generations out. The majority of consoles are being sold with disc drives, and people are paying a premium for them.
>b-b-b-but muh apple
They tried to make a console once and it was a hilarious failure
>b-b-b-but muh jooos
Sony and Microsoft are charging $100 bucks more for a $5 part, and people are paying for it. Why would they stop?

>> No.24885139

>>24885033
I really hope you're right, gives me some hope for the world. Because if China takes over everyone else is fucked, going to be 2nd class citizens.

>> No.24885152

>>24885056
>figure out within 2 hours of playtime whether you actually want to keep the game
It isn't 2 hours of you playing the game. It is 2 hours of runtime from the second you start the game. Some games take an hour to get through launch, menu, character creation, intro movie, and tutorial. Usually longer because you are reading shit or messing around. By then you've passed 2 hours. If you exit the game and launch again the clock starts ticking again which means more wasted time in menus. If it's a game like Cyberpunk you are at least sinking 6-10 hours into it before you realize it sucks dick.

>> No.24885166 [DELETED] 

>>24885056
losing your game is not an argument

digital is not a strong option you objectively lose like 40 bucks of value when you buy a digital game on steam instead of a disc

>Buying on Steam lets you stay at home

so does gme they got same day delivery and thats without the doordash option

and they sell digital download games too on their website

>>24885075
>People will bitch and whine but when it comes to launch day. Millions of coonsomers will line up for their GoyStation 7.

then why did they make versions of their console with the disc drive the cycle?

probably because they tested it out and realized nobody was going to buy their shit boxes without the disc tray

and people would have switched to pc and this would have been the worst console cycle in history instead of the best

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>>24885124
>not even fully utilizing one planet
>there's still at least one easy planet and Luna before we have to start fucking with Venus and the Gas Giants
you can fly on Titan with a heavy winter coat, an oxygen mask, and Icarus style wings

>>24885152
Protip, don't do this more than once or twice because they'll figure out and ban your account
>buy steam game
>copy it to another folder
>refund it on steam
>crack the steam DRM (trivial)
>free game

>> No.24885198

>he didn't buy BTC when it was $3k and is now coping by buying shitty mining companies

>> No.24885205

I WANT TO PUT CALLS IN BUT THE BOOMERS AT INTERACTIVE BROKERS ARE TAKING FOREVER TO APPROVE MY ACCOUNT FOR OPTIONS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA EVERYTHING IS MOONING WITHOUT ME

>> No.24885211

>>24885166
>then why did they make versions of their console with the disc drive the cycle?
Probably because Microsoft still wants to keep it, and Sony realized that they would lose sales. If they both get rid of it (collude perhaps) then they will still sell them. A lot of developers themselves, even for the PC like EA are looking for models that involve games being a service, plus the microtransactions of course. So even if the console makers allow drives some developers might be streaming/digital only.

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Please get well soon SPYCEY RYCEY! How are my SPYCEY bros hanging in there? I'm still holding at $1.88 fml

>> No.24885220

>>24885124
he doesn't know about the expanding earth

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>>24885198

>> No.24885242

>>24885211
You know Gamestop gets a cut of all digital purchases on Xbox Series X/S sold at Gamestop, right?

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>>24885198
As if btc is worth a shit did tou miss this?

>> No.24885258

>>24884873
What about Jared Foggle, the pedo?

>> No.24885269

>>24885130
This has nothing to do with Apple trying to make a console. It has nothing to do with 1-2 consoles out. If you are high up in a corporation like Sony and you look back at what Apple did to disc drives and how they just said "fuck it" and it worked out for them, in fact it worked out so well, that they changed the entire industry, you'll get ideas. So what if they make an extra $100 on a console with a disc drive option?

Launch the next console, charge more and say fuck the discs while saving money not running two product lines. Do you really think people will just not buy the next playstation or xbox because it has no disc drive? That's delusional. They'll buy it. They will line up to buy it. Sure many will cry and whine about muhh disc muhh resale. But within a year after some big exclusive or some streamer product endorsements occur everyone will forget. After getting through that first year, you'll never hear people bitch about discs again. 16-20 year olds will buy the console and they'll look at discs like cassette tapes or VHS. They'll have no memory of selling a used disc to someone in a parking lot like you and I. They'll just coomsume.

>> No.24885288 [DELETED] 

>>24885211
people dont want games as a service they want to buy the games they like not the games they want you to play for the week

> If they both get rid of it (collude perhaps) then they will still sell them.

i disagree i think had they come out with a digital only box there would have been protests about how shitty consoles are now and they would have terrible sales and microsoft and sony would lose tons of money

and people would start pc gaming and nintendo would come out the winner this cycle

thats what would happen if you strictly limited people to non disc tray versions

nobody likes the digital ones sure they can collude but to what costs

people were ready to abandon gaming already

they made the right choice

>> No.24885307

>>24885242
No, I'm not aware of that. I'm just pessimistic about the software industry as a whole, they all just want to milk as much money from people as they can. Monthly fees, cut out middlemen, etc.

>> No.24885330

>>24884932
Do you know how many games you can rent for free at your local library?

A shitload.

If I don’t have a disc drive, I’ll have to pay to buy games at full price, even tho, I’ll get bored of them in less than a month.

>> No.24885357

>>24885288
I hope you're right, I hate streaming shit in general and would prefer to own physical things. But this is not in the best interests of the publishers and such, they will try to force it eventually. Maybe not this console generation but in the future.

>> No.24885379

i wish someone would've told me that fidelity gives a really good free debit card and checking account

>> No.24885382

>>24885166
>then why did they make versions of their console with the disc drive the cycle?
Because Xbox was launching with a disc drive so they didn't want to lose sales on that. Don't kid yourself thinking this is going to drive their future trends. It is merely a stop gap. The next console generation will not have a disc drive. Sony doesn't have the money to risk not running a disc drive and losing sales to Microsoft. Literally the only business Sony has now that is worth anything is Playstation. Their electronics suck, their movies suck, everything they do sucks. If they lost badly on playstation sales they'd be fucked. Microsoft on the other hand has way more profitable ventures to rely on than just Xbox. If Microsoft had decided they didn't want to stick to having a disc drive, then we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Discs would be done overnight.

>>24885176
Thanks for the tip. I don't really game anymore anyway. If I do, I'm playing older games that cost $5 so I don't give a shit. I will however copy the games to an external drive somewhere for myself.

>> No.24885385

>tfw bought LEAPS on bought puts yesterday

fuck do i sell to minimize loses oris this piece oh shit crashing within a year back to 4?

>> No.24885395

Imagine being in the stock market right now when BTC is on a bullrun and all stocks are overvalued because the us has printed close to 29% of all USD in existence this year alone. This entire containment thread is going to be wojaks when the market implodes.

Yes this is FUD.

>> No.24885404

>>24885385
fuck auto-correct
MARA

>> No.24885409

>>24885395
btc is overvalued too are you really gonna buy while its up 100%?

>> No.24885412

>>24885166
Losing your game is an argument. Losing a disc is a common occurrence, but losing a Steam game would require losing access to your account. I've been playing games for as long as I can remember, and a sizeable portion of the games I used to have are all lost to time. This hobby would be much harder if I had to find a place for every game I own. My Steam account has 550 games. Imagine trying to store and use that if they were all physical copies.

>> No.24885416

>just bought baba calls
how fucked am I? some anon told me they can't be banned, because the stock is actually registered in the cayman islands. the ccp fine was peanuts
forward p/e is 21, while amazons forward p/e is 71.
ant IPO could still happen. I saw so many alipay signs in berlin.

>> No.24885436

>>24885269
>It has nothing to do with 1-2 consoles out
>"goystation 7"
Why should I bother to read the rest of your post if you can't even keep your antisemitic schizo ranting coherent?

>> No.24885458

Any chance of tesla mooning today?

>> No.24885462

>>24885152
You're exaggerating. No game takes an hour for you to get into gameplay. Not even story-driven ones. It's true that a lot of games show their true colors more than 2 hours in, but it's the exception and not the rule.

>> No.24885504

>>24885462
Twilight Princess

>> No.24885509 [DELETED] 

>>24885269
>>24885382
nah you fundamentally dont understand console gaming

consoles are already seen as a meme in 2020 like why the fuck do you need a console for? theres pc gaming

consoles dont do anything if theyre subsidized computers people get them so they can use their physical game lineup

if youre buying their digital service device it no longer makes any sense nobody wants it anymore

consoles already had no function i think they would have like 1/3 of the sales they do this cycle without it

>> No.24885528

>>24885504
False. Twilight Princess is great from the outset and it stays great.

>> No.24885541

>>24885288
>i disagree i think had they come out with a digital only box there would have been protests about how shitty consoles are now and they would have terrible sales and microsoft and sony would lose tons of money
You do realize you are in the minority right? Go play in a lobby of Call of Duty or NBA 2k. You'll encounter nothing but normie trash that don't know a thing about electronics or computers. They just want to play their video games. They will line up for whatever the next console is. Do you ever look at other products like smartphones and wonder why do people line up for this crap? Or people who will lease a new car every 5 years on a trade in with a car they haven't paid off? It's the same damn thing. For every gamer like you who recognizes how badly consumers will be screwed by digital only there are 100 console owners that literally do not give a shit. They just want their vidya games and their media center. They just want to ball on the niggas and get deagle kills. All of the middle school and high school kids don't give a crap about a disc drive. Their friends in class got a new console. They want a new console to play with them.

Disc drives WILL go away. There is nothing that will stop this trend. Gamers are not going to rise up lmao.

>> No.24885552

>>24885462
>No game takes an hour for you to get into gameplay
Hearts of Iron 3 can unironically take 1-2 hours to set up and this can go up to six hours for a large country if you're using Black Ice

>> No.24885562

>>24885509
Consoles have exclusive games. Consoles are also simpler to obtain (and maintain) than good gaming PCs. These are the only reasons for consoles existing. PCs can have disc drives, you know.

>> No.24885563

>>24885409
I bought months ago

>> No.24885576
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Better not miss out tick tock tick tock

>> No.24885578

>>24885509
Keep in mind that mobile gaming is the largest market, 46% in 2019. In the future they will just have no consoles and you'll stream all your games to your tv, phone, tablet, whatever. This is the future game publishers envision for people.

>> No.24885594

Ok, that instantaneous Curevac 15% dump was all I needed to see. Selling all MRNA and CVAC. Tired of going down $1,800 each a day on these faggot companies. Luckily still pocketed about 7k from both. Faggots.

>> No.24885596

>>24885198
He didn’t buy when btc was 12 dollars

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>>24885552
With Hoi 3, configuring your chain of command IS the gameplay.

>> No.24885621 [DELETED] 

>>24885541
gamers arent boomers dude

gamers are a bit smarter than the average person thats why they knew its the wrong community to fuck with

theyre more into technology

i think this digital streaming service garbage is the new blockbuster people want property not communism and dictators controlling you in their environments and stores where youre forced to go through them

>> No.24885633

>o posts for BTWN
Shame.

>> No.24885638

>>24885198
bought both in July. Get fucked.

>> No.24885652 [DELETED] 

>>24885578
mobile gaming isnt gaming its a entirely different market of women and toddlers

that market share doesnt apply to this sector

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>>24885578
1. Mobile "gaming" hasn't been significantly cannibalizing PC or console, it's simply expanding the industry. It's not a zero sum game.
2. Physical limitations (ping becomes input lag) prevent game streaming from ever being playable for all but the most casual Fortnite Mobile and Candy Crush shitters. No first person shooter will ever be playable with game streaming.
3. Mobile gaming isn't gaming and lumping it in with actual gaming does a disservice to actually understanding the industry. Clash of Clans is not cannibalizing market share from Forza. That's fucking dumb, you're fucking dumb.

>>24885612
Fair enough

>> No.24885729

I've been waiting for a red day for forever
100% cash is pain

>> No.24885757

>>24885729
You had a thousand chances to buy the dip

I’m 20% cash but right now i can’t find and entry for that either

>> No.24885760

>>24885436
got em boys.
back to plebbit fag

>> No.24885764

>>24883526
I guarantee it's because of some boomer civil servant who thinks it should all go into an Excel workbook

>> No.24885770

>>24885541
>NBA2k

Why are their ads so cringe?

>How did you know
>Cuz momma a big stiffer

They aren’t even trying to sell it to kids, they are trying to sell it to dorky parents who think their kids will find them cool if they give them this.

>> No.24885775

>>24885436
Spotted the basedboy cuck!

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What goes in this list?

>> No.24885798 [DELETED] 

>>24885541

digital gaming is just a losing proposition thats why 90% of people buy the disc tray

gamers are smart enough to see articles like this and figure it out when buying such a expensive device theyre not putting in the bare minimum amount of research

gamers actually understand the device and what they will use for the next 10 years.

theyre not just whimsically buying the microsoft streaming box like you said

https://www.wired.com/story/you-should-buy-disc-drive-playstation-5/

>> No.24885800

>>24885462
>Launch game, 5 minutes in menu and loading
>Intro movie 2-3 minutes (skippable but who skips the first time?)
>Character creation 5-30 minutes
>Intro cutscene 1-2 minutes skippable but again, who skips the first time?
>Tutorial 30-40 minutes
>Probably a pause for 1-2 minutes of setting adjustments
After tutorial we are now 45 minutes to 80 minutes of RUNTIME on steam. You now have 75-40 minutes to figure out if you like the game. Lets keep going
>Early game noob stuff, flaws start to show but too early to see 20-40 minutes
Uh oh! time is up if you wasted time in character creation or walked away to take a dump with the game paused! I'm not going to continue this, you get the point. The steam 2 hours refund is a rip off. It's a running clock

>>24885509
>nah you fundamentally dont understand console gaming
Actually I think you fundamentally don't understand how many Americans live. You realize that just having a dedicated computer is becoming a meme now right? I know people who don't even have laptops. They just use phones and tablets for everything. The internet they use in their home is a hotspot from a phone. If they want to play more than just phone games do you really think they are going to go out and buy an expensive prebuilt PC or even attempt to build a PC? No they aren't. They are going to go buy a console because that is the most straight forward path.They don't give a shit about a disc drive. They don't even have a blu-ray player in their home.

Go read news about schools struggling to adapt to students staying at home and attending class on Zoom. A huge amount of schools at all levels (even college) have had trouble because many people just don't have computers at home. If they do, it's some shitty laptop with 500gb of memory. CoD is like 200gb to download on PC. If they can even run it, no one is going to fill up half their memory just for one game. PC gaming is incredibly niche.

>> No.24885801

I need tesla to really rise up today or I’m selling it and buying NIO or something

>> No.24885802

>>24885760
>>24885775
>wahhh jews
>literal pages of incel whining about consumerism
>this is supposed to represent an argument
Fuck nigger, fuck kikes, but most importantly, fuck retards. You are simping for a retard.

>> No.24885827

Crypto is like babies first trading lesson you kids need to gtfo

>> No.24885840

>>24885801
Sell muskcoin for bitcoin

>> No.24885853

>>24885800
PC gaming is a $40B industry and is larger than console gaming. Writing incredibly long schizoposts about how you're mad at Stacey because she's on her phone all the time playing candy crush is not an argument.

>> No.24885889 [DELETED] 

>>24885800
phone gaming has nothing to do with this as we have pointed out already. its not the same category at all. thats women and toddlers.

>They are going to go buy a console because that is the most straight forward path

thankfully $GME has that market covered with their physical games.

i just think MORE people would have preferred to switch to pc gaming this cycle had they went for the digital only route and there would have been alot of gamers who just dont buy in this cycle. last cycle didnt do so well in comparison to other cycles i dont think

just because SOME people would still buy the digital streaming console doesnt mean it would be as popular as the previous cycles with more adaptability


>CoD is like 200gb to download on PC.

and its 200gb on the consoles too

which the memory cards cost a fortune

>> No.24885890

why the fuck do people worry so much about what their investment will be in 60 years. i want money NOW

>> No.24885892

>>24885802
door is that way! too late to try and fit in now, your reputation on the 'chons is TARNISHED FOREVER

>> No.24885926 [DELETED] 

>>24885395
>MARA 224.05%
>RIOT 190.81%
>NXTD +112%
What's your current BTC return?

>> No.24885947

>>24885621
Everyone I know that owns a console is a bro or some level of normie. I really don't understand how this is hard for you guys to understand. All the "gamers" I know just own EVERY console and a PC because they can't miss out on exclusives or some feature. Whatever it is.

Normies (the majority of console owners), parents, children, etc do not give a shit about a disc drive. They don't understand this "streaming as a service" garbage or "technology." I'm sure almost all of you people disagreeing with me would absolutely rag on iPhones and macs because they aren't as good tech wise as competition or whatever reason. Yet look at Apple. They sell a ton of shit. People line up for it and jam their stores. Their website crashes on big launches because so many people are trying to order.

These are the people who are going to line up for the newest console. Whatever it is. Just because they HAVE to have it. They just need to buy the next new console, the next game. They line up for Madden 2020 even though it's really no different from Madden 2019.

>>24885798
I don't think any normie I know has even heard of wired. Certainly not the large "urban" demographic I saw rushing the stores for consoles. Parents aren't reading that crap either. They are asking other parents what they got their kids or they are MAYBE asking the kid who works the register at gamestop. Most consumers do just "whimsically" buy products these days. Why do you think so many Americans are in debt? Because they are educated consumers? This is /biz/ right?

>> No.24885949

>>24885889
The fact is game publishers like the mobile models better and streaming. They want to push people toward that for more revenue, even on the PC. That's why games increasingly are more horrible. The only worthwhile games in the future will be independent ones and old games. The big publishers will all suck.

>> No.24885964

>>24885892
Make me faggot.

>>24885890
Because the previous generation of investors were dumb gay boomers. Scared of volatility. Anyone under the age of 30 knows we're living on borrowed time so we might as well make the most of it.

>>24885947
>more long form schizo ranting
>still zero sources beyond "dude trust me I know normies"
I can't believe you're bothering to type so much to say so little.

>> No.24885972

>>24885890
proverbs 28:19 and 20

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>>24885890
Learn to read the charts

>> No.24885999

>>24885972
shut up.

>> No.24886039

>>24885949
>mobile models
Fundamentally incompatible with actual gaming because mobile gaming isn't gaming. The closest approximation would probably be the various F2P, pay to win Russian MMOs.

>game streaming
No. Unless you can magically make light faster, input lag makes any real gameplay on a streaming service untenable. Stuff like GamePass works fine, because you download the games and run them locally. But there's a reason we're not counting Stadia as part of the console cycle.

>> No.24886041

>>24885889
>>24885853
Do you have any siblings or relatives under 20? I do. None of them own computers. They all own consoles. Their friends all own consoles. Their parents maybe have a laptop for emails.
>>24885853
>Writing incredibly long schizoposts about how you're mad at Stacey because she's on her phone all the time playing candy crush is not an argument
Mad at stacey? No that's not what this is about. All those people I know using solely phones for things like home internet are all middle or lower-middle class working people. They are the "average" American. Whatever, I'm done with this.
>>24885889
>memory cards cost a fortune
Most normies just own a laptop. Other than slow external HDD options, there isn't many affordable ways to upgrade memory on a laptop. Either bite the bullet and buy something with decent memory for more money. Or external SSD which is probably the same cost as console memory.

>> No.24886049 [DELETED] 

>>24885947
>Normies (the majority of console owners), parents, children, etc do not give a shit about a disc drive.

have you seen the statistics? people are spending hundreds of dollars more for the disc drive version overwhelmingly like 90% of the demand and sales come from disc drive versions

if these normies were just buying gaming devices with no thought they would just buy the cheaper one without the disc drive since it doesnt matter and you think normies will buy anything

>> No.24886065

>>24885964
How's it schizo? It's schizo to think a disc drive is going to continue to be relevant. It's schizo to think console owners are going to protest their removal.

>> No.24886079

£ is hitting 1.36 USD now, 31 month highs

Value of my portfolio gets steadily lower every single minute

>> No.24886089 [DELETED] 

>>24886041
no i mean the memory cards for the consoles are a fortune

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Storage-Expansion-Solid-State/dp/B08K3S6WJM/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=xbox+series+x+storage&qid=1608202340&sr=8-3

which is an argument for pc gaming because this will run you twice as much as a 1 tb ssd for pc

>> No.24886098

>>24886039
I know you hate the apple examples, but they used to cater to their pro users and such but that was not as profitable, and game companies are no different. There is way more money to be made selling to your average retard on the street than to your 'gaming enthusiast'. There will always be niche publishers, but here we're talking about big corporations traded on the market, and they will always try to maximize profit at the expense of experience.

>> No.24886106 [DELETED] 

>>24886041
I have a 18 year old brother, he owns a PC, a PS4, and an Xbox One S. That anecdote doesn't matter and neither does yours. Stop fucking trying to turn anecdotes into arguments. They aren't.

>all these people I know
FUCK OFF HOLY SHIT NOBODY CARES BRING DATA OR EAT SHIT NIGGER

>> No.24886117 [DELETED] 

>>24886049
I get that most are buying the disc version. They still see discs as a viable option. What I'm trying to argue here, but you are all too stupid to understand. Is that if the disc drives were removed. People would still buy the consoles. If given no option, they will still buy a PS5. If given the option they will go for a disc drive model. Another point, do you think people would still buy a disc drive model if it had zero backwards compatibility with older generation games? I'm willing to bet that is the reason why most people buy a disc drive model. Not for new games, but to keep their older games and remove one more box from under their TV.

>> No.24886152

Personally im a cartridge chad. Despite all the FUD against Nintendo switch it’s pretty based

>> No.24886158

>>24886106
All the niggers in the hood buy consoles. They can't type on computers. Same with all the spics. I really didn't want to say it, but that's the truth. The non-whites will buy whatever console is released. They are the majority now.

>> No.24886170

>>24886098
see
>>24885673
There are three relevant markets. PC, console, and mobile. Mobile gaming has exploded, but cannabilized almost no market share. Mobile gaming brings in people who otherwise wouldn't game, but this hasn't hurt the actual gaming markets at all. Unless you want to go invest in Zynga, mobile "gaming" can be ignored. Do you think publishers are stupid enough not to realize this? Do you not remember the reception of Diablo Mobile?

>>24886158
Niggers don't understand statistics. You don't understand statistics. You are a nigger.

>> No.24886212 [DELETED] 

>>24885949
good fuck all mobile games and developers
for it why should i care

>>24886117
console gaming would have died forever if they switched to digital gaming this cycle thats the real reason they didnt pull it

people would not have bought in as much as they did because it would get a bad rep from the beginning and leave a sour taste in the market

why do you refuse to believe this could happen when you could document different console cycles sometimes they just dont do so well relatively. and corporations would stop making new consoles if they dont do well for long enough

there was times when all these companies were losing too much money and almost had to stop theyre on a hair margin

>Another point, do you think people would still buy a disc drive model if it had zero backwards compatibility with older generation games? I'm willing to bet that is the reason why most people buy a disc drive model. Not for new games, but to keep their older games and remove one more box from under their TV.

ya for the used game market and reselling and lending

you buy a game you instantly recoup 40$ of the 60$ you spent it pays itself off in 2 games

>> No.24886230

Tou fucking gamer faggots need ro fuck off to /v/ try having sex

>> No.24886234 [DELETED] 

>>24886170
I understand they are separate models but big publishers like Activision Blizzard, etc are making big profits in the mobile gaming areas too. My point is they will bring the mobile revenue models to PC. They are only in it for a profit, not for what niche consumers want. Ideally they will want to sell services and microtransactions, that's what makes money. It's obvious you are emotionally invested in gaming, and want to not see it change, but in the future it will be very niche, and streaming/software as a service/microtransactions will be everything by big publishers.

>> No.24886266

>>24886079
Just FML. I have to make a huge $30k purchase in GBP next month. I’m holding USD right now because US citizen. Being an expat sucks. I’m bleeding money. At least my stocks and crypto moons.

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Me at 0:16

>> No.24886276

>all this autism about gaming markets
WTF is this

>> No.24886282

STOP SHITTING UP SMG WITH YOUR FAGGOT GAMER SHIT

>> No.24886291

>>24886276
Some people think game publishers will save their GME bags.

>> No.24886295

>>24885800
>character creation 5-30 minutes
Even for Dark Souls, 30 minutes would be excessive. Most games don't even have character creation.
>tutorial 30-40 minutes
Most tutorials show you what playing the game is like.

>> No.24886297 [DELETED] 

>>24886212
>console gaming would have died forever if they switched to digital gaming this cycle thats the real reason they didnt pull it
You have no idea how loyal console fanbases are, how irrelevant the technical side of the product is, and why people buy consoles in the first place.
Consoles are convenience, they can't be replaced by PCs that need to be built. Many consoles end up just being used for fucking Netflix what does that tell you?
People don't want to use a fucking wireless mouse and keyboard on their bed or sofa they want a controller.
Jesus Christ this shit should be obvious to anyone why the fuck are you talking about disc trays ffs

>> No.24886308

>>24885892
>the 'chons
Man that is an old meme.

>> No.24886325

>>24886234
>My point is they will bring the mobile revenue models to PC.
Okay, and I've responded multiple times now that this has been tried, failed, and developers know that. We have a whole cottage industry of Russian MMOs that essentially operate on the economics of Clash of Clans. That hasn't caught on in the 20 years World of Tanks has been on the market, why would it catch on now?

The real money is in cosmetics, battle passes, lootboxes, etc. It's scummy, but still distinct from how mobile games work.

>in the future it will be very niche
You still haven't supported this in the slightest and it directly contradicts reality. Mobile gaming is not cannibalizing other markets. How many times do you need this repeated?

>and streaming
I've responded to this three times and you refuse to take the speed of light for an answer, so I'm writing you off as clinically retarded.

>microtransactions
Yes, no shit? These have been a thing for decades. Arguably pioneered on PC by Valve. This is not the argument you think it is.

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daily reminder to sell airlines

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>>24886282

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>>24886234
and thats why gme sells keyboards and mice and gpus and tvs and pcs now

if you are giving free games and just selling microtransactions you just have to sell them the controller and the turtle beaches and the fortnite epic games gift card points bundle and the custom skin from gamestop

theres nothing you can do except sell relevant stuff

that doesnt mean gme goes out of business

>>24886297
every tv now comes with a roku you dont even need it for that

the tv has a remote too

your argument is for $ROKU

consoles are not convenience consoles are all nostalgia now there is no usage for them

and thats part of the reason why xbox series x they made it look like a computer because they want to give you that illusion that its still a gaming pc!

they knew what they were up against

>> No.24886385

>>24886346
Thinking of picking up RYCEY when it hits $1

>> No.24886402

>>24886295
>Most tutorials show you what playing the game is like.
Right but most people will play after the tutorial. Meanwhile the steam 2 hour refund clock is still running. No one judges a game and immediately uninstalls after a tutorial.

>> No.24886426

>>24886385
There is no bad news to push RYCEY to a dollar. Their earnings report is already out. They already gave out their plan for recovery.

>> No.24886440

>>24886346
why

>> No.24886449

>>>/v/ >>>/vg/ >>>/vr/ >>>/vm/ >>>/vrpg/ >>>/vst/ >>>/vmg/

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>>24886449
this is gamestop general dude

cope

were waiting for the market to open so i can put my money back into $GME

the fastest most economically efficient way of purchasing games

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>>24886449
This is smg do your fucking job

>> No.24886484

>>24886348
In fairness to them this place is about where to invest or trade anons money so it actually kind of is important to tell someone they're wrong here otherwise you get dozens of wojacks in a week or so complaining how /smg/ shilled them
>>24886365
Okay so can you party chat with friends through the TV? Or flick seamlessly from cod to some other bullshit your gf plays? Can you play a PC from your bed or sofa without dragging a cumbersome dusty pc tower into the room? How about flicking it on from the controller instead of having to boot up with a power button and putting in a password?

>> No.24886489

>>24886470
epic troll XD

>> No.24886493

I hope the stimulus bill gets passed and everyone's stocks moon today.

>> No.24886519

>>24886470
I wonder how long until GME announces they're going out of business. They remind me of travel agencies. Nobody needs them anymore.

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>>24886484
ya you can i talk to people on cod warzone from my pc

i even play WITH the console players and theyre jealous of me for having a mouse and keyboard

and you can set up a tv too but a tv is a disadvantage because its got more latency than a computer monitor

>> No.24886540

>>24886346
Why? Travel is picking up and the government has kept them all in business. All of the important employees like pilots are still working and not furloughed. Airlines have learned they can dispose of most their useless employees (women/fag ticket agents) and still function fine.

>> No.24886552

>>24886449
what would you prefer we post about
>hmm yes everything is up in the premarket because we're in a blow off top hmm yes
>bitcoin up as well hmm very good yes
>literally every commodity is up, quite good, yes, Jeremy fetch me the rice futures would you?

>>24886484
to counter your fairness with deviled avocados, the original discussion was about gamestop financials and the economic model of various PC games publishers is pretty irrelevant to that

long story short
>disc drives will be a thing for at least this console generation
>GME is fucked if they can't pivot from their reliance on used discs to pad margins
>GME knows this and has cut digital revenue sharing agreements with Microsoft (confirmed) and perhaps others (speculative)
>Sherman delenda est

>> No.24886555

>>24885214
Holding 270k worth of shares at 2.38

Hold me rycey bros.

>> No.24886558

Someone made top shilling for base protocol and seems like they got my attention, price x5 just for a week!

>> No.24886568

>>24886519
Exactly, there's no way they survive long-term. They offer nothing you can't get elsewhere.

>> No.24886586

>>24886552
Yeah honestly I skimmed over the initial discussion whle making breakfast and now I'm regretting jumping in because it's obviously been shitting up the thread.
Sorry anons.
Also the way that dude makes posts is creepy desu.

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>>24886519
>Nobody needs them anymore.

idk those millions of disc tray ps5 owners might need em at some point id think


>>24886552
i dont even buy it that gme NEEDED to partner to get a cut of the digital games

why cant a store/website simply exist that caters to gamers specifically

like ryan cohen says

why does a company forced to sell physical games only thats like radioshack can only sell radios

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>>24886568
>>24886519
>rehashing half baked arguments from September
Every wave of newfags does this and every wave of newfags ends up wrong

>>24886586
If you mean kpopfag he's legit schizo but I like him, he's our pet

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>>24886568
>They offer nothing you can't get elsewhere.

oh ya try asking tyriesha at walmart about the latest video games after traveling all the way to the back of walmart and finally getting their attention and maybe theyll open the plastic door they hide the games behind for you with the key and lock

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>>24885416
I'm long on Baba. Diamond (strongest Metallica) hands.

>> No.24886657

>>24886597
Yes but even normies moved on from travel agencies eventually. They're just a step behind us degenerates.
>>24886609
People are probably using the same arguments with you because they're trying to explain to your retarded ass why nobody gives a fuck about Gamestop except idiots that still shop there, and even they will move on eventually. Hopefully you're not still holding by then.

>> No.24886661

>>24886638
>try asking tyriesha at walmart about the latest video games after traveling all the way to the back of walmart and finally getting their attention and maybe theyll open the plastic door they hide the games behind for you with the key and lock
Fuck America sounds depressing

>> No.24886675

>>24886552
There is more than 1 market, mutt.

>>24886555
Checked. Hang in there

>> No.24886679

>>24886638
Yeah except Wal-Mart offers about a thousand things Gamestop doesn't, so it's much more likely you'd find yourself in a Wal-Mart and pick up a game while you're there.

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GET IN

>> No.24886694 [DELETED] 

>>24886638
That's why you drive to Target on the Chink/White side of town. Or at the very least, go to a better Wal-Mart. Why are you going to the nigger containment Wal-Mart first?

>> No.24886710 [DELETED] 

>>24886657
>join thread you know nothing about in the last month
>start namefagging immediately
>obsessively wrong about a play that predates your newfag ass showing up by a full financial quarter
And you want to be taken seriously?

>> No.24886731

>>24886694
Or even go to the bestbuy or something, there's a billion places MOST people except a certain demographic will go before GME. I just don't understand their 'edge' in the market over competitors.

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>>24886679
>>24886694
actually people would rather go into a game store and have people who know about gaming and little game console set up there to play

its a better climate for buying a game than target
or walmart

theres a reason theres home depot and lowes which are a home improvement category

walmart is for food and buying random products there is a disaster and low quality because its dispersed and not targeted

it will always be more efficient to have individual targeted shops

like pool stores for fucking chlorine

or smoke shops for tobaco products

this idea that we only should have one company is fundamentally flawed

>> No.24886758

>>24884487
Steam has had refunds for fuckin ages

>> No.24886764

>>24886710
Are you really this upset I disrespected Gamestop that you're absolutely sperging out this hard? You have no frame of reference of when I started coming here. I also don't care if anyone takes me seriously. I'd actually prefer the opposite. This is 4chan, I don't come here to feel respected lol. But the amount of seething in the tone of your post defending Blockbuster is pretty comical.

>> No.24886768

>>24886747
I agree there are those types of people that prefer GME. I just don't think there's as many as you think.

>> No.24886786

>>24886747
The chunk of people wondering which games to buy that you are referring to will watch William J Johnson on YT and get their mom to buy the game. Moms dont go to gamestop.

>> No.24886794

>>24886747
Also we're not here investing into pool shops, those are small time.

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>>24886758
2 hours of gameplay or 2 weeks return

physical games you can sell months and years later

>>24886768
i didnt say that was the main argument for shopping at $GME i said thats why you would choose it over target or walmart which are objectively shit tier for buying games at

>>24886786
moms are actually the precise goof clowns who would need to go ask the clerk at gamestop what the fuck does she do

walmart employee cant help you with that

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>>24886764
I've been long GME longer than you've been here, and literally nothing you've posted is new or interesting. Yet you namefag anyways. Why?

>> No.24886813 [DELETED] 

>>24886764
>Wants to have a username
>On 4chan
Looks like Reddit is more your speed, faggot.

>> No.24886814

Come for biz
Get v
This website really is shit.

>> No.24886841

>>24886810
>>24886813
I had no idea Gamestop had such a cult-following. Or is it that people here are trashing your precious stock that's got you all uptight? Either way, that shit is pathetic.

>> No.24886842

THE DOLLAR IS DEAD
>THE DOLLAR IS DEAD
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>> No.24886847

>>24886814
>type board names like a redditor
>complain about the website
go back

>> No.24886850

>>24886814
Wait until market opens and CLF fags spam about 1% gains.

>> No.24886861

@@24886764
>This is 4chan, I don't come here to feel respected lol.
No you clearly just want attention. Fuck off.

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>>24886847
Smg faggot make your own thread

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>>24886841
>I had no idea Gamestop had such a cult-following
That just outs you as literally the newest of newfags.

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> New England covered in a foot of snow
Feeling comfy af today bros. Hopefully we'll make some good gains today (assuming the power/internet doesn't go out).

>> No.24886892

What to buy today

>> No.24886895

>>24886814
You can unironically detect how new you are from your post. Go back.

>> No.24886899

>>24886892
Short GME

>> No.24886916

>>24886841
I absolutely hate GME and the /v/ shitposting in this thread, but you're more annoying than all of that because I easily recognize your faggotry in every thread.

>CLF TO THE MOON BROS WE ARE GOING TO BE SO RICH!!!!

>> No.24886917

>>24886867
okay

new
>>24886913
>>24886913
>>24886913
>>24886913

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>BABA

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>>24886887
No snow in NC ;(

>> No.24886922

>>24886841
>I had no idea Gamestop had such a cult-following

It doesn't, there is just 2 little poor drunk faggots jerking themselves off

>> No.24886957

>>24886597
So GME needs to be more like RadioShack since digital will kill the pre-owned rental Blockbuster model?

>> No.24886971

>>24884754
>backed by assets
yea typically not 2000 - 1 ratios though fucking pump and dump nigger. indexes are overvalued and you have shitty ipos like airbnb doing pnd schemes right out the gate this market is more like crypto only because of the volatile times and the outside forces at play

>> No.24887250

>>24886597
do you feel like an idiot having your entire life ride on gme

you should of sold before earnings and switched to clf

>> No.24887740

>>24884569
Bitcoin isn't even good for that.
Monero is getting more and more popular because the fees for bitcoin are so ridiculous no druggie would ever want to pay 200% the price for drugs + a 50$ fee on every purchase.
If i understand it correctly there is no way in hell that you could make bitcoin function as a normal currency when the fees are high enough that people can't use it.

>> No.24887837

>>24883662
I feel you bro.
The stock market isn't driven by anything rational anymore when computers, whales, the media and gubermint all manipulate it into being a joke.
>rona kills everyones economy
>90% unemployment in the US
>massive race riots because of a mind virus
>everyone working from home and not spending money
>stocks go brrrrrrrrr

What you need to look at is the global zeitgeist and that thing is schizophrenic.

>> No.24888007

>>24886540
Should i give investments tips on something i'm not even invested in?
Yes.
Less people have jobs right now so they can't travel.
The tourist economy is dead and those things aren't propped up by the government.
Many won't go because of the plague even if it dies down.

On the other hand it is practically guaranteed that the gubmint won't let a large airline close down.

>> No.24888045

I got fomo on BTC. in Mara and riot. Should I just buy it direct? I remember buying 2 for 50$ to buy some weed. Jesus fucking Christ