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can someone nuke the left wing parties for fuck's sake?
they are destroying italy

>> No.24804340

>>24804303
what is the new inheritance tax in italy?
t. own a house in italy

>> No.24804401

>>24804340
the left wing party is about to propose a 10x increase, there are many voices of this patrimoniale
taxation on the second house will increase as well

>> No.24804831

>>24804303
You're a slave for now. There is nothing you can do about this other than moving assets offshore. Eventually, there will be nowhere to run.

>> No.24805058

>>24804303
that pizza looks disgusting
better try pizza hut noob

>> No.24805093

К coжaлeнию люди пpaвят миpoм!

>> No.24805126

Good, generational wealth can get fucked trust fund kiddie

>> No.24805202

>>24805126
So the population will be even more dependent on the government than they already are? Go back

>> No.24805449

>>24805202
If you didn't have shit head kids that hoarded wealth while doing literally nothing to earn it, people would depend less on the government.

>> No.24806312

>>24804831
Gotta pay for those rapefugees, they just need love and healthcare and rape and housing and rape.

Bitcoin users unaffected.

>>24805126
>>24805449
>t. retarded communist

>> No.24806456

>>24806312
>Bitcoin users unaffected.
You mean monero users unaffected? Cause you know the government keeps track of all your bitcoins. No one knows how much xmr I have.

>> No.24806667

>>24805126
>generation wealth
house is already a liability retard

>> No.24806704

>>24804401
fucking commies

>> No.24806719

>>24805449
hoarding wealth creates investment
if you want low interest rates to fuel investments, you're going to nuke the middle class and the poorfags and make billionaires richer lmao
+ government gets bigger

you're dumb as a fucking rock

>> No.24806763

Italy is lost. The whole country is one generation away from going full communist

>> No.24806801

>>24805126
nigger

>> No.24806830 [DELETED] 

>>24805126
Can't wait to crucify all the commies when the time comes.

>> No.24807260
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24807260

>Any Southern Europeans
>Ever actually paying their taxes

You ever just accidentally give yourself away as a fucking clown?

>> No.24807312

>>24807260
not paying taxes in italy it's literally the only way to survive in this commie system

>> No.24807350

>>24804401
Getting wealth from inheritance is not fair. We need a world where everybody starts off at the same playing field. Inclusive capitalism.

>> No.24807351

>>24807312
>the number that nobody actually pays ever is going up
>time to keep not paying it
>government going to have to jack up that number again
>everybody panic the commies are coming for you!

Uh huh.

>> No.24807398

>>24806719
Goverment being bigger is a good thing, they can distribute to wealth more fairly and everyone can be better off.

>> No.24807402

>>24807312
I always hear this, but is it actually true or is it because everyone opens a business on a loan and renting the building whole also spending on stupid shit like internet for business bullshit that performs the same as a €30/month fiber while costing €250/month+?

>> No.24807407

>>24804303
I support it but only for members of the chamber of commerce or people who work in NYC/Silicon Valley. I want to bleed the subhumans dry.

>> No.24807417

>>24807350
do you realize that if you inherit a house you have to go into debt just to pay a tax?

>> No.24807421

>>24804303
heat turned too high on crust and not enough cheese

>> No.24807422
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24807422

>>24804303
>italy
did NOT expect that, lost

>> No.24807436

>>24807350
This but only for people who support it. Tax their inheritance. And give it to white families/eugenics programs.

>> No.24807477

>>24807398
i didn't noticed you was larping
nice bait bro

>> No.24807501

>>24807417
That house should be sold and the profits given to everybody within the society. People need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. I worked hard in life and made it through my own self determination, I started with nothing. The system was rigged against me infact as most people started above me. A system with an even playing field is best and only those who get rich can be properly respected as getting their on their own, unlike today where most of them are trust fund kids....

>> No.24807527

>>24807501
yeah, good luck selling a house in a remote fraction of a small village in the middle of the mountains

>> No.24807579

>>24807501
>The system was rigged against me infact as most people started above me.
except if you redistribute wealth inside of italy you will only make everybody poor, ruin businesses and finally foreign entities who don't give a shit about "redistribution" will buy all your infrastructures and borrow you some random fake money like euro

>> No.24807580

>>24807350
based

>> No.24807591

Can someone nuke the party's leftover wings? I'm about to fry up some tendies

>> No.24807792

>>24807501
based. self made bois report in.

>> No.24807935

>>24807501
Hey, now that you carved yourself a nice spot, how about leaving and letting someone else take it, they started off worse than you currently are, where do you draw the line? A house is not where I'd do it, now if we're talking real estate empires or tens/hundreds of millions in assets it can be maybe discussed, maybe it's not even that, but how fairly you ammassed the wealth that should be taken into account. Ops it's slippery here.

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24807952

>some rich boomer decides to have kids
>dies
>kids who never worked a day in their lives and spent all of high school drinking now get to inherit millions
>IT'S FAIR! I SAY IT'S FAIR!!!! LISTEN TO ME IT'S FUCKING FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.24808025

I visit Italy very often and the only really left-wing people I've met are from Emilia-Romagna. Everyone else is based - even the girls. Maybe you should just annex this region, or raze it, whatever.

>> No.24808088

>>24807935
this, and I want to add, it is better if you promote home ownership or it is better that you start taxing it?
If you tax it, banks will take it, and banks don’t pay taxes on houses (they don’t pay any IMU for example)
how is this fair? are you fucking retard?
you are encouraging getting enslaved for life to get a mortgage while everybody could just inherit their parents house instead

>> No.24808119

>>24807952
it is, boomer worked for it, boomer decides where his money goes. Not that you would ever live this situation but suppose you busted your ass off and made millions and had kids, you decided to leave your wealth to your kids so they continue your business but some new law says all that money goes to welfare, you ok with this faggot?

>> No.24808158

>>24807501
Worked very hard so roasties can keep your money while your sons have to do it all over again.

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24808185

>>24807952
>immigrant moves to the US
>spent their teens and early 20s working in shitty conditions to save enough to actually move
>busts their ass off to save enough to buy a house and to save for retirement
compared to
>some hedge fund manager's kid grows up in absolute luxury
>everything is taken care of, kids don't have to worry about anything
>daddy dies, kids get $750k each to start their lives
>life on easy mode
But sure, you go ahead and try to defend how this is fair

>> No.24808186

>>24807952
Why work hard if I can't pass it all onto my kids and support them?

>> No.24808212

>>24807952
Why do you have more of a say where the money goes than the boomer that earned it?

>> No.24808232

>>24808119
>it is, boomer worked for it, boomer decides where his money goes
Except he doesn't, lol. He doesn't give away his wealth while he is alive, so he isn't affected by losing all of his wealth. When his wealth is distributed to his children:
1) The children never did ANYTHING to deserve it
2) The boomer will never be affected by his net worth being reduced to $0 since he is dead

>> No.24808249

Why is /biz/ getting raided by communists all of a sudden? Is it the influx r/wsb refugees?

>> No.24808284

Neapolitan pizza is disgusting.

>> No.24808285

>>24808185
kids deserve the money cause their father made sure it was there for them instead of throwing it down the drain, if they're such useless parasites they will lose the money anyway. Kys commie

>> No.24808299

>>24808186
>Why work hard if I can't pass it all onto my kids and support them?
You pretend as if the only motivation to work hard in life for money is to give it to your kids, even though that is not the case at all.
What about buying a big house? Or a fancy car? Or blowing everything on cocaine and hookers?
Not to mention the fact that your kids will most likely blow all of the money instantly since they are young, inexperienced, and never had to work a day in their lives to appreciate the value of this money that you worked hard for.
To sit there and pretend like the only goal with money in your life is to give it away to your kids is stupid.

>> No.24808315

>>24808232
Ok, so what did the government do to deserve it?

>> No.24808329

>>24807952
Is it fair that people born in America have better lives than people born in Somalia? No, but thanks to our predecessors we live better lives today. Like nations on a smaller scale, families are separate and autonomous groups that should have control over their own wealth and legacies.

>> No.24808347

>>24808232
alright so when your parents die we should throw you out in the streets and give your parents house to immigrants or other welfare leeches.. after all its not your house anymore is it?

>> No.24808348
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24808348

>obligatory image on every post with the word "tax"

>> No.24808366

>>24808119
>>24808158
Everybodies kids have to earn their place in this world just as you did. It’s called contributing to society and this is how respect is earned.

>> No.24808380

>>24808315
>Ok, so what did the government do to deserve it?
Provide a legal system and police to protect the boomer's wealth
Roads, infrastructure
Healthcare for the CONSOOMers who bought shit off of the boomer's business
Defense spending to protect the country and its borders

Do you want me to go on?

>> No.24808385

>>24808299
>dont try to build generational wealth goy, spend it all on cocaine and hookers, who cares about your kids? you only got one life anyway
kys commie kike

>> No.24808391

>>24808299
>What about buying a big house?
Who cares if I don't have a family to raise in it? I'd be content in a shack in the woods if I didn't need to share it.
>a fancy car
Not needed
>Or blowing everything on cocaine and hookers?
Pointless expense, you can entertain yourself in better ways for free.
>Not to mention the fact that your kids will most likely blow all of the money instantly since they are young, inexperienced, and never had to work a day in their lives to appreciate the value of this money that you worked hard for.
This is common, but if you raise them right you can make it less likely. It's not impossible to ensure your wealth lasts generations.

>> No.24808403

>>24808380
Ok, well he already paid taxes on his earnings to pay for all that

>> No.24808404

>>24808385
>commie
>kike
Pick one.

>> No.24808431

>>24808404
>he doesnt know

>> No.24808446

>>24808185
the moment you stop using fake unlimited money you will solve inequality problem
it's the cantillon effect, stealing money to a boomer child is cleary NOT the solution, it's a shitty unfair workaround
>>24808232
you are implying it's ok for you, a dad, that the government will go after your kid and strip all his inherited stuff

>> No.24808474

>>24808404
lol. Try to find a source that can back up your assertion.

>> No.24808475

>>24808404
who do you thinks created this PsyOps? think a little hard

>> No.24808483

>>24808299
>You pretend as if the only motivation to work hard in life for money is to give it to your kids, even though that is not the case at all.
>What about buying a big house? Or a fancy car? Or blowing everything on cocaine and hookers?
because we are not commies and we are not kikes
i unironically sold my car to buy more btc for my kid

>> No.24808485

>>24807350
This, very based. can't wait to take it away from those racists that want to steal from PoC.

>> No.24808493

>>24808431
Stalin was a known anti-Semite. Fuck off goat fucker sand nigger

>> No.24808494

>>24808446
>>24808483
What have the children done to deserve a big inheritance?

>> No.24808516

>>24808404
>being this dumb
with your """wealth redistribution""" methods, you only increase inequality, read this >>24808088

>> No.24808534

>>24808493
>he actually believes this
stalin was the first to recognize Israel as a state, you dont know shit

>> No.24808550

>>24808516
Answer the question: >>24808494

>> No.24808557

>>24808494
IT'S YOUR FUCKING CHILDREN, YOUR GIFT TO THE UNIVERSE, YOU GROW IT, AND YOU WANT TO STEAL FROM HIM?
FUCK OFF, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN COMMIE
I WILL TEACH HIM HOW TO BEAT THE KIKE BRAINWASHING
>BE POOR GOY, IT'S OK GOY, GIVE ALL YOUR MONEY TO US, WE WILL LEND IT AND YOU WILL BORROW IT, YES A BIGGER HOUSE GOY

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>>24808557
Stop sperging and answer the fucking question.
What the fuck have the children done in their lives to deserve an inheritance?
>Muh false dichotomy about the only alternative being gifting all my money to niggers
Ignore this shit and answer my fucking question

>> No.24808618

>>24808550
Answer me. >>24808403
Our hypothetical boomer already paid his taxes for roads, healthcare, defense, police, boarders, etc. Why should he pay again?

>> No.24808627

>>24808550
They were born into their family. Just like you were presumably born in a first world country and gained advantages. The family is their group. What right do you have to control that family's wealth?

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24808639

>>24808618
I am mistaken. He should not pay further taxes. I withdraw that statement.
There. Now answer my question.

>> No.24808652

>>24808604
what the fuck did you do as a kid to deserve every day meal your parents gave you? you werent working you were just watching cartoons, you didnt deserve that meal. Kids SHOULD go to work for that meal, enough with parents feeding their own children!

>> No.24808668

>>24808185
>daddy dies, kids get $750k each to start their lives
Fucking good one. Daddy dies at 85 these days. Kids are getting the capital to "start their lives" at 60. If it goes to the grandchildren then maybe 30-35. Besides, anyone with actual money will just have a trust set up with his inheritors.

>> No.24808709

>>24808639
It wasn't my post, but I'll answer anyway; they've done as much as the government has, which is nothing. It's his money to do with as he pleases. You can give all your money to the government, or a charity, or the church, or whomever you'd like when you die. It's your money

>> No.24808727

>>24808652
>>24808709
So you admit that the kids didn't do anything in their lives to deserve this inheritance, yes? They were just lucky enough to be born into the correct family.

>> No.24808731

>>24808534
Yea that is why literally every Jew I know personally who lived under Stalin at my synagogue hates him, but no he was good and pro Israel because Pol said so. You need to go back

>> No.24808743

>>24808604
>What the fuck have the children done in their lives to deserve an inheritance?
unironically, learn my teachings, that for sure will never include a brand new mini cooper at 18 or free money during the twenties
i will teach him the value of generational wealth, the race for human improvement, the race for technology, the race for progress
he will be ready to manage my wealth
but you commie redistributor will only give away gibs for free, making poor dependents on more gibs, encouraging stealing from the ones richer then them, encouraging them to be lazy, because sooner or later their part will come from redistribution

>> No.24808771

>>24808743
This is a false dichotomy you retard. You pretend as if the only alternative to giving your wealth to children is to give it to "muh niggers and their gibs"

>> No.24808821

POO POO PEE PEE BOOMER GIVE YOUR GIBS TO ME! Check 'em

>> No.24808830

>>24808727
Yeah, I admit that. I don't think anyone is arguing against that fact. But if you have multiple parties that have equal claim to someone's money, which in this case is no claim, because neither party worked for it, then it should go to whomever the person that owned the money's choosing

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24808849

>>24808830
I can get behind that. Thank you for arguing in good faith

>> No.24808899

>>24808727
no luck involved, the parents made the money, the parents reproduced, kids were born, the parents decide if the money goes to their offspring, simple as that, commie
>>24808731
>muh anecdotal evidence
yea im gonna trust YOUR word, jew. These are the same jews that say they survived the Holocaust when it suits them

>> No.24808912

>>24808771
i can teach my kid how to manage a business, he will employ people and redistribute it to people willing to work
much more efficient than a government telling you to close your restaurant for 9 months, and then coming to you asking for taxes

>> No.24808922

>>24808604
Well your children, probably nothing. In fact, they are net negatives since they carry on your line. But my children are more worth to me than the rest of you lot put together, and I don't care about your opinion about that, since unlike my kids you're in that big bucket of totally irrelevant people who hopefully die soon to leave a little more room for my kids. I hope that you die soon, if that wasn't clear.

>> No.24808927

>>24808849
Same to you, have fun getting shit on by everyone else though

>> No.24808970

>>24808899
fuck off back to /pol/ retard

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24809009

Remember anons, killing communists is self defense.

>>24808232
>1) The children never did ANYTHING to deserve it
What a retarded argument, the children DON'T HAVE TO do anything to deserve it, if their father leaves them everything in his will then it is so, he gets to decide what to do with his assets. Private property is quite literally the extension of your personhood because it took you work and time to earn/create it. Someone who wants to take away your property is quite literally making a slave out of you. He is taking all of that time and work you put in and taking it for himself.

>> No.24809202

>>24807350
>We need a world where everybody starts off at the same playing field.
That is retarded and unrealistic.

>> No.24809351

>>24805449

I'm glad we get to kill you all soon

>> No.24809366
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24809366

>>24807350
>Inclusive capitalism.
oh yes, where did i read this?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/12/09/pope-francis-partners-with-corporate-titans-to-make-capitalism-more-inclusive-and-fair-is-this-for-real-or-just-corporate-virtue-signaling/

>Ajay Banga, president and CEO, Mastercard
>Oliver Bäte, chairman of the board of management, Allianz SE
>Marc Benioff, chair, CEO, and founder, Salesforce
>Edward Breen, executive chairman, Dupont
>Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, founder and managing partner, Inclusive Capital Partners
>Kenneth Frazier, chairman of the board and CEO, Merck
>Alex Gorsky, chairman of the board and CEO, Johnson & Johnson
>Alfred Kelly, chairman and CEO, Visa
>William Lauder, executive chairman, Estée Lauder
>Bernard Looney, CEO, BP
>Brian Moynihan, chairman of the board and CEO, Bank of America
>Ronald P. O'Hanley, president and CEO, State Street Corporation
>Rajiv Shah, president, the Rockefeller Foundation

FUCK OFF KIKE, unironically Rothschild and Rockefeller always in first line

>> No.24809385

>>24807350
Kill the commies they are not human

>> No.24809431

>>24804401
More fleecing by the jews

>> No.24809462

>>24804401
holy shit, they are literally trying to replace you with niggers kek.

>> No.24809535

>>24809462
>trying
succeeding

>> No.24809536

>>24804303
that is probably the saddest pizza i have ever seen
its clearly home made and you can just see the poverty all over it
some poorfag made this pizza and they ran out of cheese in the process (which is why there is almost no cheese on the pizza)

>> No.24809574

>>24809535
I wish you well Italy anon.

>> No.24809608
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>>24804303
Obviously capitalism is king and anyone who fucks with it is an idiot. But taxes have nothing to do with capitalism and Gini coefficients are one of the best indicators of a nations general well being.
Inheritance and consumption taxes are the future. I’d rather live in free market high tax Denmark, then corporate welfare and regulation infested low tax USA any day.

>> No.24809724

>>24808639
They were loyal to their family and helped their kin when it was called for. This isn't complicated.

>> No.24809828

>>24809536
It's pizza napoletana you uncultured swine

>> No.24809850

Commies are faggot losers who come from a family of faggot losers. It’s no surprise to see them chomping at the bit to tear down the success of others just to scrounge up crumbs for themselves.

>> No.24809921

>>24807350
Chiudi quella bocca coglione

>> No.24809943

>>24807952
>>24808232
Kys you fucking commie scum

>> No.24810047

>>24807952
1) Stealing from the dead is morally wrong
2) A large reason people spend their entire life working and save is to let something to their children

>> No.24810181
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24810181

>>24807952
>it’s fair stealing everything from your kid, teach him communist songs in school, and repeating him to be happy to own nothing

>> No.24810237

>>24805126
suck as farms? Get fucked.

>> No.24810256

>>24809009
Commie beliefs are based on the narcissistic delusion that they should judge who "deserves" what with complete disregard of what the parties concerned want, they pretend to fight for equality but they seek a position of superiority over others.

>> No.24810286

>>24807350
Was thinking of giving my children the house when I die but nah I'll just piss it away on alcohol and hookers thanks based guberment

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24810306

>>24807350
>we can force life to be fair for everyone by unnecessarily fucking over other people
there is a special place in hell for kikes like you

>> No.24810410

The Commies went after the Kulaks who saved their money to buy their way & descendants out of slavery.

>> No.24810779

>>24804303
>an someone nuke the left wing parties for fuck's sake?
The shady thing is that policies like these tend to have some support amongst the wealthy, because they tend to be omitted from the taxes - there is always exceptions.
..or they have the resources and tools to easily evade it in another fashion.

It is crony capitalism the current economic model of society.

>> No.24810793

>>24810779
Bitcoin will fix this, they cannot escape

>> No.24810823

>>24807501
so if you die, your spouse and children will be forced to sell their home, to pay off the inheritance tax.
..and that is a good thing.

>> No.24811183

>>24808299
>You pretend as if the only motivation to work hard in life for money is to give it to your kids, even though that is not the case at all.
ma thats pretty much it for me
>What about buying a big house? Or a fancy car? Or blowing everything on cocaine and hookers?
ill buy a nice house for my family, no fancy car because im not a nigger. i get cocaine & strippers for free so that doesnt cost me.
>Not to mention the fact that your kids will most likely blow all of the money instantly since they are young, inexperienced, and never had to work a day in their lives to appreciate the value of this money that you worked hard for.
yes. i will make sure my children never have to work a day in their lives and can enjoy themselves. having to work is lower class.
>To sit there and pretend like the only goal with money in your life is to give it away to your kids is stupid.
to sit there and type that was stupid but you did it anyway

>> No.24811234

>>24808494
they were born to me.
the notion of who "deserves" what is such a jewish thought pattern.
literally no one "deserves" anything, but we work for it and build it for ourselves you communist scum

>> No.24811263

>>24807350
this, but without niggers

>> No.24811525
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24811525

>>24807350
>inclusive capitalism

>> No.24811533

>>24809009
yeah this guy gets it.
my time, my labour. money is just the stored value of my labour over time (commies think labour is sacred right? you should get this). if i choose to cash in the product of my labour, or let my child do it, thats 100% up to me. someone else dictating what i can do with the product of my labour sounds like capitalist exploitation does it not comrade?

>> No.24811577

>>24811525
Haha I’m a lefty but these pics kill me. What is it that makes guys make this face in pictures?
Low testosterone?

>> No.24811813

>>24811577
>shitty beard
>rounded face shape
>minor hair loss
>something within compels them to do the onions smile
high test men have more well defined facial features, strong beard growth and go bald early.