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>Decentralized classified page
>Buyer orders iPhone X
>Seller posts with tracking and correct weight
>Buyer receives the box
>Nophone.jpg
>Just magnets weighing the same as the phone
>Seller claims he sent the item and has a picture of the phone in the box prior to sending
So...

>> No.24773175

Great. thanks for this post. Kleros is dumping now

>> No.24773204
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24773204

So much Kleros FUD all of a sudden...
>You had two years

>> No.24773243

>>24773145
Someone please respond, if pnk holders want to be taken seriously, they need to explain how Kleros would solve this situation AND demonstrate how the token is necessary

>> No.24773429

User ratings will be a thing. Think ebay

>> No.24773539

>>24773204
It's literally the whale trying to get in cheaper.

>>24773243
As written there's insufficient evidence. Whoever has a video of them sealing the box with the phone in or video of unboxing the magnets will win. Kleros might actually vote that there's no way to tell what happened and refuse to arbitrate.

I mean, what's your point? That in cases of hearsay court systems can't magically uncover the truth? No shit sherlock. An IRL court would just refuse to arbitrate and both parties would just report each other on a centralized site like ebay. Kleros isn't going to magically solve unsolvable problems.

>> No.24773562

Would be escalated and the courier would get involved. Once they confirm that the package was intact and it didn't have tampering. The customer would then upload this statement to the court case. The only logical explanation would be that the seller took the picture before packaging the 'phone' and replaced them with the magnets weighing the same.

The main issue with your proposed situation is that there is information missing. Cases don't get resolved in a matter of minutes on Kleros, they can take a little bit. The whole appeal of using Kleros however, is that it reduces the cost on the company managing the sale by lowering the cost of labor for customer support workers. The whole idea of this working synonymous with oracles however is that an oracle would give verifiable data proving it was untampered. Well at least once oracles are more integrated into things like our postal system.

>>24773539
What this anon said.

>> No.24773565 [DELETED] 

$KILL again. Buy the dip, will rise 3x in next 3 hours. Because of lower circulating supply..

https://app.uniswap.org/#/swap?outputCurrency=0xb85c54b5fcb21d90ebf4737e2149d4aacc9f45bb

>> No.24773577

>>24773145
Once seller loses one case, seller sets up video camera on all outbound boxing and shipments. Amazon probably already does this

Next

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>>24773145
Also, the whole point of the token is to create a incentive for the jurors to get the correct answer. Token needed as payments through blockchain are quicker and more secure. Which I thought was obvious since this is basically a crypto board...

>> No.24773608

>>24773577
Amazon doesn't video every box, but it would be pretty easy for them to set up. They already scan fucking everything.

>> No.24773621

>>24773608
Plus most companies account for these type of losses. The main selling point in using Kleros is that they can lower that loss by decreasing costs in another part of the same system.

>> No.24773632

>>24773608
Bingo. This is a solvable case.

The reason why Amazon doesn’t do this today is because it is cheaper for them to just refund the customer. If the Kleros court can be more economical for them than refunding the customer, this will be adopted.

Great example OP

>> No.24773638

Literally the Doge Coin of 2020 lmao some people are holding a million of this garbage

>> No.24773648

>>24773145
then the courier took the phone out and re-sealed the package in the same exact way. If not, then the case is ruled in the buyers favor and he gets all his money back, thats it.

>> No.24773689

>>24773648
You can't know if the buyer didn't open the box, take out iphone, put in magnets, then take pictures complaining about the phone.

I suppose the seller could have track my iphone installed on the phone and use that to prove it went to the address of the buyer, but who the fuck is buying an iphone that hasn't been wiped?

>> No.24773734

which one of you idiots is this

https://etherscan.io/address/0x94f52b6520804eced0accad7ccb93c73523af089

>> No.24773815

Pretty sure cheap labor will be cheaper then kleros court. Not to mention the fact that companies would rather have customer service reps knowledgeable about their product and not some street shitter confused about the billionth case he worked on today