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Tomorrow is big day for you and you don't even realize it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXqcY3usp3Q&feature=youtu.be
>56:20
>funnily enough we're issuing a paper TOMORROW about dispute resolution mechanisms
they're either about to kingmake or btfo kleros
should be interesting

>> No.24733003
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>That pajeet kleros juror jumping from his tropical chair when she says it

>> No.24733040

>>24733003
he's literally learning forward to write "TOMORROW" on a pad of paper to help him remember

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24733173

>>24733003
>sirs

>> No.24733174

>>24733040
He's actually noting her name in order to sue her on Kleros court in case the paper is damaging to Kleros

>> No.24733193

>>24732921
sirs where to buy suicide stack, how much for feed village

>> No.24733215

>>24732921
Why are those only a bunch of fucking disgusting Pajeet subhumans that want to enslave us

>> No.24733222

>>24733003
It's >>24732921 making this thread

>> No.24733238

http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_WP_Dispute_Resolution_for_Blockchain_2020.pdf
This one?

>> No.24733269

>>24733238
>ctrl - f kleros
they cited the whitepaper
sirs...

>> No.24733272

>>24733193
uniswap sir

>> No.24733281

>>24733238
>http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_WP_Dispute_Resolution_for_Blockchain_2020.pdf
oh, maybe (probably?)
the video upload date is today but I guess it was probably live earlier
thanks anon

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24733282

>>24733238
>>24733269

>> No.24733305

>>24732921
>they're either about to kingmake or btfo kleros
>>24733238
>>24733269
>Juries vs. game theory: Many of the blockchain-based dispute resolution mechanisms that have been
proposed involve jurors deciding, not based on the merits of each party’s position but based on a prediction
of how other jurors will vote.19 While this may be acceptable for anonymized disputes in low-risk situations, it is
unlikely to be adopted by enterprise users because of the inherent uncertainties in a dispute resolution process
that could be based on matters other than the merits of a case.
sirs we are btfo sell it all quickly my god we are not going to make it

>> No.24733348

>>24733305
With Kleros, the jurors do consider the merits of each party's position though. The game theory part isn't the only reason it works.

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>>24733238
>>24733269

>> No.24733423

>>24733305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unRldLdllZ8

Goodbye sirs

>> No.24733424

>>24733238
on first glance they don't really btfo or kingmake (although it is good that kleros/aragon are mentioned)
this just seems to be mapping the problem rather than offering the solution

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>>24732921
It's probably just going to be integrating chainlink powered oracles with the existing legal system, not like Kleros at all. What she's describing is (if I understand correctly):
Dispute -> Gov't Justice System -> Oracle -> Blockchain

Whereas Kleros is entirely different:
Smart Contract w/Kleros clause -> Dispute -> Kleros Court Decision -> Smart Contract -> Execution based on Kleros Court Decision

They have entirely different markets, in my opinion. However, Kleros does have huge growth potential to take over the IRL arbitration market which is as simple as generating a template smart contract that complies with existing arbitration law, but has both parties agree that Kleros court will act as the arbiter and make the final call. Taking over small claims court would be a little harder and require IRL courts to adapt to Kleros and agree to enforce Kleros decisions, but they might be willing to do so to efficiently deal with backlogged cases in certain jurisdictions.

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>>24732921
HOLY FUCK, ANON I WAS LISTENING TO THIS TOO

When i heard "contract dispute resolution" i shot up. We are all going to make it

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>>24733424
Yeah. Though I'd say it's positive for blockchain-based dispute resolution that they're discussing it and taking it seriously.

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>>24733514

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>>24733281
>http
>>24733466
Checked, basically we are going to make it ?

>> No.24733603

>>24733423
gooodbyeeee
life is shorrrtt

>> No.24733639

>>24733462
Nevermind, just saw the paper was posted and skimmed it. They cited the Kleros short paper but clearly didn't understand why it works, probably because they didn't understand what Schelling points are and how they apply to the game theory or history of random jury selection from Ancient Athens. Such unfounded claims will be resolved in time as Kleros gains a track record for fair decisions the same way Bitcoin fudders stopped claiming it was insecure after years of no hacks.

>> No.24733693

>>24733579
click the link anon its safe, the world economic forum cites the kleros white paper in their paper

>> No.24733729

>>24733693
ahhhh I got hacked by Schwab and he took all my linkies

>> No.24733771

>>24732921
Who's the lady in the top right corner talking about the paper?

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>>24733729

>> No.24733865

>>24733771
try starting the video from the beginning
she's one of the authors from the wef/chainlink whitepaper

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>>24733238
> While this may be acceptable for anonymized disputes in low-risk situations, it is
unlikely to be adopted by enterprise users because of the inherent uncertainties in a dispute resolution process
that could be based on matters other than the merits of a case.
Sirs I think they're dabbing on us

>> No.24733959

>>24733912
Nah, they just have a surface level misunderstanding of how Kleros works because they latched onto "game theory" and didn't pay attention to literally anything else in the short paper, and then pulled a guess out of their ass as to how enterprise might react to their misunderstanding.

>> No.24734005

>>24733959
So does that mean I am gonna make it with 40k PNK or not?

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24734013

>>24734005
You're going to make it.

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24734015

Meh, Kleros is only mentionned in the endnotes, is it a good start or a nothingburger ?

>> No.24734095

sirs where to buy?

>> No.24734110

>>24734095
uniswap,,

>> No.24734125

>>24732921
Too many Indians; didn't watch.

>> No.24734135

>>24734095
sir itself is uniswap

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24734145

>>24734095

>> No.24734243

>>24734005
Have you considered asking Kleros court to answer your question?

>> No.24734244

>>24733305
>Juries vs. game theory: Many of the blockchain-based dispute resolution mechanisms that have been
proposed involve jurors deciding, not based on the merits of each party’s position but based on a prediction
of how other jurors will vote.

This is absolutely true though. Explain to me why this wouldn't be the case in absolutely every dispute pinkies?

>> No.24734250

Why are all of them brown

>> No.24734262

>>24734015
It's good to see how important the WEF considers dispute resolution mechanisms. In the video, she refers to it as one of the big gaps that needs to be filled along with connecting blockchains and legacy systems (Chainlink).

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I will keep buying sirs

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24734444

>>24734095
unibrow sir ,,

>> No.24734539

>>24734444
sir!! am of the checking, many moons buy on unibrow sirs

>> No.24734593

too many nigers

>> No.24735240

i have measly 14k pinakoins sirs will i make

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>>24734444
CHECK'D

>> No.24735488

>>24734383
This graphic is so ghetto. The creator couldn’t even match the type.

>> No.24735674

>>24733912
>While this may be acceptable for anonymized disputes in low-risk situations, it is unlikely to be adopted by enterprise users because of the inherent uncertainties in a dispute resolution process that could be based on matters other than the merits of a case.

What do these idiots think is currently being used to resolve contract disputes? Hint: First result when googling:
>A civil action starts when one individual (the plaintiff) files a complaint against another individual (the defendant) for some wrongdoing that caused harm or did not fulfill a contract. Jurisdiction is a court’s authority to hear a case and a court must have jurisdiction to pass judgement.
>did not fulfill a contract.
>a court’s authority to hear a case

Sirs...

>> No.24735975

Where can I buy this?

>> No.24736108

>>24734244
Because you can't coordinate with jurors, you have to assume they'll vote honestly and vote honestly yourself. In practice on Kleros so far that means people stick extremely closely to the terms of the contract itself and there's been extremely little wiggle room in the cases.

>> No.24736203

>>24735975
bump

>> No.24736431

>>24735975
>>24736203
uniwap sirs

>> No.24737035

>>24736431
unicef,,