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Is living off welfare the final red-pill?

I'm serious. If you take minimalism to it's logical conclusion and stop working the government will start throwing benefits at you as if you're poor due to a lack of asset testing.

The cost of survival and entertainment is so low that you may as well do nothing.

>> No.24718868

>>24718814
Duh. Also sell weed and do sex work. Put it all in Bitcoin. I used to suck dicks for 10 dollars a pop and put it all in Bitcoin in 2009. I never sold. I'm not a multi-millionaire.

I miss the days of staring into a mans eyes and guzzling his cum, and asking him if I was a good little slut. I'm straight, though.

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Furthermore, alternative lifestyles such as living in a vehicle, mobile home, tiny home, off-gridding or living rural can drive your cost of living down so low that you can easily retire off of less than 100k with gibs.

>> No.24718907

>>24718868
You don't have to resort to illegal activity though.

You can get a shit/easy job doing anything and have more than enough money if you drive down your cost of living and take what's freely offered to you.

>> No.24718962

>>24718814
Living by the mercy of the government is not sustainable I think. You should be financially independent.

>> No.24718992

>>24718962

There's no asset test though. You could have 100k in the stock market and still get benefits.

Even if you were cut off it would be far less than an emergency.

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>>24718814

>> No.24719035

>>24719008
Thanks buddy

>> No.24719068

>>24719035
But how do I get on welfare? Isn't it kinda hard?

>> No.24719129

>>24719068
Just look up the laws of your state.

The main one is expanded medicaid. Some states have it and some don't.

>> No.24719136

>>24719068
1. get sent to hospital for documented craziness
2. present this to the welfare person

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>>24719136
I'm already bipolar with autism and tourette according to my psychiatrist, but I'm gainfully employed which obviously hurts my chances.

What can I do to be even crazier?

>> No.24719163

>>24719136
What you are talking about though is scamming the system to get neetbux.

I don't advocate lying.

All I'm saying is that if you have a large amount of money saved up but no income (because you no longer need to work) then the gub will still offer you free healthcare.

There's no deception involved.

>> No.24719179

>>24719158
Oh and ADHD, but everyone has that.

>> No.24719196

Came across the DuckDAO hunters game, does anyone take part in it?

Looks like this crypto incubator can provide good instruments for investments. Please, share your opinion about it

>> No.24719213

>>24719158
Figure it out yourself you fucking retard jesus christ.

>> No.24719244

>>24719158
>>24719179
Dude, just stay in bed for 3-5 days, answer no calls, don't open your door etc... Then go to your shrink and say ou couldn't handle it anymore. And walla you're free to go

>> No.24719250

>>24719158
Also stop lying.

>> No.24719280

>>24718814
yes if you're willing to accept an incredibly low standard of living. also welfare isn't really a thing in america unless you're a nigger or a woman. most people who "don't work" are on disability and it pays like $600/month. i think this is my what friend gets, he's on schizophreniabux.

>> No.24719302

>>24718992
>There's no asset test though
yes there is
>Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a needs-based program. To get SSI, your countable resources must not be worth more than $2,000 for an individual or $3,000 for a couple. We call this the resource limit.

>> No.24719314

I think it depends on where you live as well. I hear in Europe it's pretty good but over here your entire paycheck would barely be able to afford a rental for a tiny room in a house. If you want to be a degenerate and feign a mental illness disability you're still not getting that much more. Also in general the idea of living off the taxpayer is taxing on the conscience, even though going to work means getting fucked by the rich who do the exact same thing. It seems like the only two options are be taken advantage of or take advantage of others and there is no gray area

>> No.24719371

>>24719302
I'm talking about Expanded Medicaid, and EBT to a far lesser degree.

>> No.24719385

>>24719280
You can live off that if you do a little thinking though. Even well if he already owns his own property or lives at home.

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>>24718814
The final red pill is FUSE. Take it.

>> No.24719418

>>24719385
>Even well if he already owns his own property or lives at home.
he lives with his insane mom (who is also on SSI disability) in a house they pay for with their pooled SSI disability income. he'll probably live with her until she dies.

>> No.24719433

>>24719314
This is an interest take.

I've noticed that the same people who criticize those who take welfare would take a massive tax break in a second and also still cashed their totally unnecessary stimulus checks.

It seems that you can rationalize "stealing" in different ways depending on what team play for politically.

>> No.24719460

>>24719418
Is he allowed to work at all? Like is there an income limit for him?\

Even if it's low I think he could easily combine his gubbux and wagebux and move out somehow. Or just live in his car.

That sounds like a terrible situation jesus christ. I hope he makes it.

>> No.24719520

>>24719460
i think it's like $700/month. i think he's too mentally fucked up to work again, between schizophrenia/depression/ocd symptoms which require several different medications, occasional voluntary commitment to psych wards, routine psychiatry check-ins, and weekly therapy sessions.

>> No.24719578

>>24719520
Holy fuck. Poor guy. That's awful. I'm so sorry. I can't imagine watching my friend degrade into literal insanity.

What is like being friends with someone like that? Was he always like that?

>> No.24719615

Does anyone on /biz/ have any sort of hope of raising children? Is getting $600a month to live in your shitbox apartment alone eating cereal playing video games really a fulfilling life for you? Jesus fucking christ no wonder western men are doomed

>> No.24719641

>>24719578
didn't start until he was 26 or 27 years old. it's the typical late 20s/early 30s onset for schizophrenia, my uncle had the same shit happen to him in his early 30s. my uncle was fine and then started a slow downward spiral that ended with repeated commitments to the psych ward, different medications that didn't work, electroshock therapy (nasty shit), medications that did work, periods of stability where he worked a normal job driving a truck, and then various factors (lack of discipline and not taking the medications, and possibly the medications losing effectiveness) which lead to him going on disability and living in a group home and not working again.

>> No.24719701

>>24719641
Jesus dude. That's awful.

Good luck to both of them. Good on you for sticking around.

>> No.24719737

>>24719615
It really isn't that bad. It's much better than being a wagecuck.

If I wanted a family I probably wouldn't mind working though. I would want the best for my kids.

The problem is that this lifestyle is highly addicting. Even if it's less fulfilling and happy and it's vastly more secure and free.

There are trade offs in everything.

Please remember that before you start lifestyle pissing contest with random people.

>> No.24721221

>>24718885
off grid or living rural is appealing but has a high start up cost. Let's face it, most of us can't do without hot water or electricity. Property costs money and either building a cabin and other infrastructure such as generators, solar panels are an up front investment. Offgrid is nonexistant for europoors but rural is definitely viable and much cheaper. Look towards eastern Europe

>> No.24721325

>>24721221
I'm talking about buying a 20k-30k house in a small town (very possible where I live) and then conserving on utilities and other cost as much as possible before generating said things on your own.

>> No.24721442

>>24719244
>walla

>> No.24721466

>>24718868
>used to suck dick 10$ a pop
Kek

>> No.24721745

>>24719302
Do you really think shaniqua the social worker is gonna second guess the form? They might ASK you, but they definitely wont check anything.

>> No.24721862

>>24719244
> just testing, voila