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24702811 No.24702811 [Reply] [Original]

Ok PNKtards, you've almost convinced me. But explain to me how this shit is going to work when big guys can just buy huge stacks, form a coalition and effectively control the court and the vote? What's the point of your precious kleros court then?

>> No.24703984

>>24702811
uniswap sir

>> No.24703999

where to buy>

>> No.24704034

>>24703984
uniswap sir

>> No.24704041

>>24702811
Keek

>> No.24704047

>>24703999
uniswap sir

>> No.24704048

Jurors are chosen at random for each case, you can't form a coalition. Jurors are also anonymous to each other and can't communicate prior to voting. Did you even read the white paper?

>> No.24704071

>>24703999
>>24704047

You know we can tell you're samefagging, right idiot? Nobody is going to buy your dumbass court coin

>> No.24704162
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24704162

>>24704071

>> No.24704188

>>24702811
They still have to vote according to reasonable consensus

>> No.24704370

>>24704048
>>24704188
Also forgot to mention that a motivated party can also appeal the decision indefinitely until whales are outnumbered by normal people and then the whales lose all their PNK on that case.

>> No.24704378

>>24702811
Sir please do the needful, don't question Sharanam Genesha, thank you and you deserve it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpmD5NUgFtc

>> No.24704387

Doing the needfuls.

>> No.24704422

>>24704071
uniswap sir

>> No.24704897

>>24704071
kek sir

>> No.24704930

Anybody tried Linguo yet? I can't be assed to get on my computer with the dapp installed

>> No.24705332
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24705332

>>24704370
also whales will have massive fun when we just fork pnk and dont include their tokens

>> No.24705407

>>24702811
>Ok you know how smart contracts execute automatically when the conditions are met?
>What if we just ignored that and made a convoluted court system instead
Lol

>> No.24705433

>>24705407
sir you must tread lightly lest you find yourself in kleros court facing death!!

>> No.24705454

SIRS

>> No.24705476

>>24705454
sire!

>> No.24705514

>>24705407
>He doesn't know

>> No.24705524
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24705524

>>24705407
failed the IQ test

>> No.24705535

>>24702811
>>24704048
This OP, also they would need to buy more than 51% of PNK, thus pushing the price as well as making it against their interest to corrupt the system, which would make it useless and the token which they paid a high price for, worthless. At this point the system could be forked as well. READ. DYOR. unisir, swap.

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24705609

>>24705407
>he thinks contracts are perfect and cover all outcomes
>he thinks oracles exist that provide perfect information
>he thinks humans won't dispute the obvious anyway
>he thinks there's no grey areas with whether or not contract conditions have been met
>he didn't study ancient greece
>he's literally never seen, let alone held, a pinakion

>> No.24705813

>>24705476
sires?

>> No.24706335

>>24705813
teamviewer sir

>> No.24706364
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24706364

Just bought another $600 worth good sirs, don’t think it’s going much lower than this level thanks to whalechad, almost accumulated 50,000 Pinkies now

>> No.24706819

>>24706364
I'm getting close to trying to get a loan to buy more PNK rather than just DCA'ing in over the next few paychecks like I'd planned. Fuck, whalechad is giving me mad FOMO. I'd sell some of my BTC but I don't want to get whacked with taxes.

>> No.24706882

>>24704071
sirs bigly keking!!

>> No.24706954
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24706954

Sirs! All aboard for kleros courts sirs! We sentence today!

>> No.24707075

ooooooOOOOO sirs!! i am sitting here in front of yourselves waiting for moon!

>> No.24707767

>>24702811
Read
The
Whitepaper
You
Faggot

Actually on second though don’t- those who can’t do their own research don’t deserve to make it

>> No.24707898

>>24705407
I’m having flashbacks. This is the same argument chainlink FUDders were making in 2017

>What if we just made a convoluted JSON parser instead

>> No.24709061

uniswap

>> No.24709166

>>24709061
unicef,,

>> No.24709658
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24709658

>>24709166
unibrow,,

>> No.24709878

Where to buy>

>> No.24710082

>>24709878
unicorn sirs,,

>> No.24710112

>>24710082
where is site sir? please install teamviewer i need to see your screen

>> No.24710342

>>24710112
where to download sir

>> No.24710371

>>24710342
uniswap

>> No.24710383

>>24710342
sir!

>> No.24710822
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24710822

this will be my beautiful wife sirs, all in village will be jealus

>> No.24710866

>>24710822
ooooo sir i am of happys for you!! many thanks pls do the needful and invite us to wedding

>> No.24710879

Ok, last question. Isn't it immoral to have it so the more PNK you have the greater odds of you being picked? So basically the richest retards will be jurors consistently.

>> No.24710958
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24710958

>>24710866
she has best currytoes in all village around. the wedding is going to be golriful

>> No.24710973

>>24710879
this is why you must do the needful now sor while pinakion coin is very cheap

>> No.24710998

>>24710958
very impressive sir!! may i ask how slurry is her curry?

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24711001

>>24710879
many riches to you sir if the needful is done

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24711033

>>24710998
the slurrest and stinkest of all

>> No.24711034
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24711034

I wonder how many of us will be absolutely filthy fucking pajeet-rich when this hits 2$

>> No.24711040

>>24710879
Retards will lose their PNK ruling in cases they have no business ruling in as cases continue to increase in complexity. High IQ whales will keep their PNK by ruling correctly.

>> No.24711052

>>24710973
>>24711001
im serious

>> No.24711065

>>24711034
sir wen is one hundred dolar??

>> No.24711074

Imagine the fool whom tries to hack the court. We hindu basketmakers wouldnt have it.

>> No.24711077

>>24710958
>>24711033
sir how much pink required for access to her soles

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24711092

>>24711052
SIR u can only join mumbai captial if the needful is done

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24711124

>>24711077
for my dear villigaer sirs we share for all wedding day, but sir... unisawp must be have used before. we need proof of the needful

>> No.24711151

>>24711077
sir.. do you realize what you ask?? sir,,,

>> No.24711196
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24711196

we who did needful will also get certificate like great SIR abeer Shama

>> No.24711209

>>24710958
>>24711033
>>24711124
Damnit ranjeeta i said unwashed! How will these unpungent feet attract anyone. Sirs please pardon the untouchable caste. Here in India we do not tolerate any foolery

>> No.24711233

If you answer coherently i'll markt buy 10,000 worth of pnk right now

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24711252

>>24711196
https://blog.kleros.io/incorporating-kleros-in-long-term-energy-supply-contracts/ This great man helped with PNK kleros needful

>> No.24711433

>>24711233
I haven't done pnk staking but go check out the actual platform. I believe if you stake more yes youll be picked more but you can also be slashed the full amount in a wrong answer, whereas the less likely to be picked juror will be slashed a smaller amount in the event of being wrong

>> No.24711465

>>24711433
Tldr imagine not understanding its economically backed predictive software. The real AI was humans all along.

>> No.24711521

>>24711433
Wrong. The vote stake is the same for all jurors.

>> No.24711571

>>24711521
Well i could see that being an exploit but still have a hard time believing its pragmatically exploitable

>> No.24711672

Is this for real? Lazy smooth brain who just follows the crowd here, pls no bully

>> No.24711778

>>24711571
large stakers have the advantage of being more likely to be picked for a case. The only exploit would be if they gain a majority of juror spots as a result of their large stake and then vote maliciously, but the appeal process takes care of this.

>> No.24711826

>>24711778
Yea i realize the appeal exists i personally would still like to see them slashed more even if its not the full amount maybe a 2x multiplier for a stake 50x as big

>> No.24712018

>>24711826
For every vote you get on a jury you stake the designated amount. If you're a whale and get two spots on a jury of seven and vote incoherently, you lose your stake for each vote. The Kleros devs expect whales getting selected multiple times for the same jury to be a very rare occurrence.

>> No.24712055

>>24712018
SIRS
staking PNK is necessary for them to actually have the opportunity arbitrate the dispute (Not to mention that PNK have a monetary value of their own). Note that the individual juror does not normally know who her peers are or their affiliations (although different sub-courts may opt for different policies); all she knows is that those who are coherent with the majority of jurors are rewarded and those who are incoherent will be penalized.

This layer of anonymity nullifies any chance of the jurors collaborating with each other to come to a verdict, which means that the default assumption is that each juror will expect her counterparts to decide ‘truthfully’. (81) Additionally, the Kleros system is designed to support appellate mechanisms, where a dissatisfied party can appeal the verdict of a dispute to a larger jury. If the appellate jury overturns the award, then the inconsistent appellate jurors as well as the jurors whic

>> No.24712084

>>24712055
which made the initial majority both lose their PNK to their counterparts.

>> No.24712316

>>24704162
>pajeet on the right is in deep thought contemplating on his kleros case vote.
He means business look in his eyes.

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24712802

whats the suicide stack and make it stack of this coin. i want to roll some profits into it tonight.

>> No.24713269

>>24712802
10k 100k

>> No.24713397

>>24713269
10k to get 100k? Hmmmm very good sir.

>> No.24713622

>total market wide dump, most alts wiped 10%
>pnk +5%
Imagine seeing this and not being all in

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24713645

>>24702811
>you've almost convinced me
STAHP

>> No.24714278

What's the stack to be a juror as your full time job in 5 years?

>> No.24714304

What will the price be end of monsoon season sirs?

>> No.24714338

>>24714304
one trillion rupees sir

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24714414

>>24710958
SWEET VISHNU

>> No.24714623

i think this whole thing is a terrible idea, but i'm about to go all in on it because it will probably take off. i'm not even kidding

>> No.24714694

>>24703984
kek

>> No.24714728

>>24714623
>thinks it's a bad idea
>goes all in
why would you do this. I'm saying this as somebody who has 90% of his net worth in PNK.

>> No.24714756

>>24714623
Can you articulate why you think it's a bad idea? If you can't, you're just feeling, not thinking.

>> No.24714779
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24714779

Can PNK overthrow LINK? Or am I being deluded as luigi.finance bagholders?

>> No.24714825

>>24714623
Kek

>> No.24714840

>>24714779
5$ per pink EONY

>> No.24714927

>>24714779
Easily. PNK can do everything Chainlink the company can do, right now. Someone just needs to create the aggregator contracts. And it has staking and is decentralised. LINK will bleed to the low single digits from here. Sergey had his chance and he missed it.

>> No.24714948

SIRS. PNK is the futures. SIRS.

>> No.24715215

>>24706364
>>24706819
Unequivocally based. I'm going all in today too. Whalechad single handedly won't let the price drop below 10c

>> No.24715331

>>24714756
Jurors are incentivized to vote for the outcome that they think a randomly selected group of people would agree is just. This is not necessarily the outcome that that juror personally thinks is just. I understand that in practice justice is culturally determined, but I think this is an unfortunate reality of humanity that we should strive to overcome. Kleros not only accepts this version of justice, but posits it as the way things ought to be.
I don't think this is worse than how things are done now, but I'm also not convinced it's any better. It just seems to introduce an entirely new set of problems.

>> No.24715484

>>24702811
this is why you need to out-collect them, duh. PNK is the new revolution and you're missing out sir

>> No.24715531

>>24715331
It's not actually about justice, it's about whether or not the terms of the contract were met or not. The only time cultural notions of justice come into play is when Kleros asks jurors to vote against "immoral" actors or to refuse to arbitrate if both actors are "immoral" according to the short list of "immoral acts" on their website.

It's basically an oracle with three people sitting behind it, voting yes or no and feeding that into the smart contract on the blockchain.

>> No.24715542

>>24702811
> explain to me how a 51% attack works please biz
go back to /reddit/ retard

>> No.24715631

>>24715331
Okay this is actually a good take. This problem has been raised by Eyal Winter, the israeli game theorist, who says you ideally need two votes from each juror - "what I think is the right outcome" (but your stake isn't at risk) and "what I think other people will think is the right outcome" (but your stake is at risk).

They may eventually create courts like this, where each juror votes on each of these criteria. It would help a lot with appeals.

>> No.24715747

>>24714623
I cant wait for the dump

>> No.24715830

>>24715631
In the Kleros system you get PNK from incoherent voters, so in the long run you shouldn't lose PNK from voting honestly but everyone else being a retard. Successful appeals wind up flipping things anyway so it's always best to vote honestly, having another vote that doesn't matter doesn't add anything to the system.

>> No.24716273

>>24715747

We'll dump a guillotine on your head when we sentence you in our courts.