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24691854 No.24691854 [Reply] [Original]

Honest answers guys

Why does this board hate weed? Is anyone here successful that smokes weed daily? I usually wait until the sun is down to smoke. I’m a young father with a self made net of over 200k (no gains from crypto/stocks, median income) but I just want to understand better about why you all think it’s bad. I’m always looking to improve on things and I’m not sure if it’s worth quitting since it’s a nice reset at night and I don’t have to dwell on shit. Is everyone here just alcoholics or what

>> No.24691893

everyone who does becomes a loser over time. explain this

>> No.24691911

I dont think the board is universally against weed, I’m sure there are a lot off weed smokers and people who have made plenty of money from weed or on the influence. Like any intoxicant, or everything in life, it’s completely what you make of it. It can be motivate you or sap your motivation, it all depends on you. Personally I am the only person in my house who smokes weed and also the person who makes the most money although it is fair to say I am the least social although thats the way I was before I started smoking.

>> No.24691920

Really no one here smokes weed? I guess it’s my bipolar disorder that keeps me addicted on saving. It’s the combination of the two that leave me the happiest and manic. I guess I’m alone on this

>> No.24691940

>>24691893
I’ve been smoking for 10 years. I wouldn’t say I’m that successful but yea I guess I was just a partying loser for the first 5 years. I get why you think this

>> No.24691954

>>24691911
I like this answer. I’m with you in antisocial part. It’s a big reason I never smoke during the daytime

>> No.24692051

>>24691854
4Chan hates everything you weed smoking burnout faggot.

Go light up as your mom and sister get railed by a nigger.

>> No.24692079

>>24691893
yeah
Everyone wants to fucking think to themslves:
>"It makes me more creative and helps me play guitar, man"
No, you've been doing jack all nothing for three years and you haven't learned to play shit on your guitar.
>"Who cares man if I smoek weeeds"
Uh, you act like a fucking moron for three days after you do it. Its like trying to communicate with someone while their brain is in a washing machine. I can never tell when you're serious, joking, paying attention, or high. I can't predict your behavior or your mood. How the fuck am I supposed to deal with someone like that?
>"Dude, its fine man, you need to relax. You drink BEER" Yeah, and I have a whole organ in my body that helps me metabolize beer and clear it out of my system. It doesn't turn on every single dopamine nodes on in my brain and fry my reward circuits.

I don't like dealing with wishy-washey "relaxed" people who act dumb for hours at a time, for large portions of their entire week.

>> No.24692080

>>24691854
If you smoke weed then you are a liberal faggot who probably also endorses gay marriage. KYS libtard

>> No.24692145

>>24691854
I think normies who open a robinhood app & pile into weed stocks & take massive losses the funniest sort of retards.

>> No.24692153

Nothing wrong with smoking weed, i smoke the devils lettuce and i make the most money of any of my cousins, and my girlfriend is hotter then their girlfriends/wives.

>> No.24692184

>>24691854
I hate it because you care about the subject so much and clearly take your habit as apart of your identity. Only dude weed bro idiots think it is interesting enough to be a mention-worthy aspect of themselves. Imagine hearing someone prattle on about "yeah man, I drink alcohol because I find it gives me a different perception of things and cools the nerves.... you might say I'm a hip free thinker. Many successful people have also consumed alcohol, don't hate".

As to your last question no I don't drink at all.

>> No.24692187

>>24692080
I’m a white republican. I can almost guarantee that you interact daily with people that are stoned, many normies do it in secret especially at work with edibles.

>> No.24692249

>>24692187
Oh right, and this.
"I'm stoned all the time and no one can tell"
No.
we can fucking tell. Its annoying as shit too. So I'm glad you brought this up so you can't pretend to be ignorant about it.
Seems like people who smoke weed think this behavior is "okay and normal", lol. Disgusting.

>> No.24692275

smoking weed is a low class activity and biz is a high class board

>> No.24692279

>>24692184
I don’t care. I do it in secret. I don’t do any of these Hollywood stoner things and you wouldn’t ever know I smoked weed even if you came to my house. This perception of weed smokers is pretty intense, though. Just the mere mention of it makes your blood boil. I understand you the least

>> No.24692289

weed permanently reduces your iq

t. smoked it for 5 years

>> No.24692293
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24692293

the Manlet King smokes a ton of weed and he made it

Although I will admit almost ALL of his guests who are actually successful people do not smoke weed, besides the comedians.

>> No.24692298
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24692298

I only smoke once a week, cuz it makes me lose all day and lazy af next day if I smoke in the night. Microdose doesn't work on my either, mainly cuz I start feeling addicted.
Also, nowadays with the lockdown could only buy sativa, wich I can't smoke that much (panic and stressfull if too much).
Fun fact that I did many stupid trades while high, after being liquidated for $1000 never did it again.

>> No.24692301

>>24692249
But what makes it wrong to smoke weed?
You trust the people at your church, yeah? Ask them why we don’t bury people halfway and stone them to death for cheating anymore. If you wanna talk hypocrisy then pick up any form of a bible

>> No.24692316

>>24692289
These are the opinions I’m most interested in.

>> No.24692326

>>24692079
LMAO he drinks literal poison and is trying to justify it

The very fact that you brought it up in the first place means that you know that its shit for your body and you are trying to defend it anyway. Fucking alcohol brain cope lol

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>>24692298
>I only smoke once a week

>> No.24692327

>>24691854
Most people I know that smoke weed do it every single day usually multiple times. That’s where the problem comes in. If it’s something you do once or twice a month or something like that I have no problem with it, but daily use is an issue. I’ve tried it in the past and edibles as well but gave it up a long time ago. Under the right circumstances on vacation I might try some again, though.

>> No.24692335

>>24692301
Was anything I said about fucking morals you useless idiot??

>> No.24692343

>>24692275
This is very very interesting. I grew up in a small town the opinion on weed here is so much different than this boards

>> No.24692357

>>24692079
People like you are always insufferable. I used to be like you til I blaze 420ed and realized I was wasting my life not doing it

>> No.24692366

>>24692343
because people in small towns are low class. rural america is a decaying shithole

>> No.24692375

>>24692279
You stoners say things like that but then turn around and become single-issue voters regarding pot.

>>24692301
pure dude bro level rant about religion. yeah that's totally why, so DEEP and not at all retarded.

>> No.24692395

>>24692301
>being a stoner AND a fedora tipper

>> No.24692424
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Anyone who gets mad at people who smoke weed gets high off anger and weed is too expensive
Weed is as American as apple pie

>> No.24692441

>>24692335
Nope, just the hypocrisy of it all. Now how could I tell you’re a church-goer?
My general perception of drinkers is they tend to become jerks, especially when buzz is fading, become violent at home after awhile, begin drinking at work in secret, and it accounts for countless deaths.
Yet, weed is literally meth or heroin to you

>> No.24692446

>>24692357
wait until you tried heroin

>> No.24692458

>>24692395
Topkek

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>>24691854
Every company I have worked at, there were a few stoner bros (and some chicks) around who seemed like they could function fine on it.

Then inevitably, without fail, they would eventually get fired for underperforming or sometimes for some big fuckup like sleeping through a really important early AM meeting.

People have so many stories like this from working with stoners that it's become a stereotype. It may be fine every now and then but as a regular thing it makes you lazy and stupid, which results in consequences that *will* fuck with your life.

>> No.24692485

>>24692395
Nah just weed haters are typically Christians who take the Christpill lmao.
You guys worship a 2000 year old game of telephone and believe fairy tales happened. It was always a girl from a different school and we wouldn’t know her, right?

>> No.24692501

>>24692446
Why have you?

>> No.24692507

I like microdosing. I find it keeps me alert and creative if I keep it almost homeopathic, so I only vape a couple grams of oil per day, tops.

>> No.24692512

>>24691854
I smoked weed every night for a year straight. Now I don't touch that shit. It makes you feel sluggish and like a degenerate. I will never touch that shit again.

>> No.24692513
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WEED STORY
>try weed
>get high
>eat snacks
>take nap
ok it was fine but nothing special, more boring than drinking
>smoke again a week later
>fall asleep
>wake up, feel cramp in my stomach, cant make it go away
>tingly as fuck, realize i can't catch my breath
>sit outside for 20 minutes sweating like fuck
>calm down a bit, go inside, try to fall back asleep
>start to fall apart again
>sit outside for another 30 minutes until i calm down and go back asleep
fast forward a few days
>stone cold sober
>take a nap in the middle of the afternoon because WFH
>bad dream
>wake up with the SAME FEELING, again stone cold sober at like 2pm on a weekday
>heart rate jacked up, can barely breath
>sit outside on the porch with this feeling like i just ran a mile and am trying to breath through a plastic bag on my head
>can not stop thinking i'm going to die even though in the back of my head i know thats ridiculous
>the only thing that helps me calm down is googling my symptoms
>turns out these are all the classic symptoms of a panic attack
>sit on the porch for AN HOUR before my heart rate finally drops below 100 BPM, aka tachycardia
Yeah weed seems great for your brain, fucking 2 panic attacks in 5 days for a fit guy in his mid 20s, for NO REASON. The second time DAYS after smoking, also this is weed from a real dispensary.

Fuck anyone that says weed isn't bad for you is DREAMING

>> No.24692515

>>24692463
Thank you for this response. Can I ask, what industry/sector you’re talking about?

>> No.24692525

>>24692507
GRAMS?

>> No.24692535

>>24692525
Or was it macrodosing?

>> No.24692536

>>24692512
Also, the insomnia that i got after coming off was absolutely crippling.

>> No.24692551

>>24691854
IT SMELLS LIKE SHIT

LIKE LITERAL RANCID SHIT

FUCKING DUDEWEEDBROS HANG OUTSIDE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY NIGHT AND PUFF OUT HUGE FUCKING WEEDCLOUDS OF SHITSMELLING FUCK THAT ROLL ACROSS MY NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE SOME EVIL MIASMA CLOUD FROM A FUCKING DISNEY CARTOON. EVERY TIME I FUCKING CATCH A WHIFF OF THAT HIDEOUS SCENT IT JUST MAKES ME WANT TO PUNCH WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE. LIKE IT FEELS LITERALLY OFFENSIVE, LIKE BEING SLAPPED BY AN EFFEMINATE FAGGOT HIPSTER. THE DESIRE TO PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE IS A VISCERAL, INSTINCTUAL RESPONSE. FUCK WEED AND FUCK WEEDSTANK AND FUCK EVERYONE WHO SMOKES WEED, I JUST WANT TO EXIST IN MY HOME AND BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND MY NEIGHBOURHOOD WITHOUT BEING ASSAULTED BY THE OLFACTORY EQUIVALENT OF A SNUFF FILM.

>> No.24692560

>>24692513
I have a friend that refuses to smoke because of same exact reason. I think your genetics just don’t like weed. I just feel slightly relaxed, and generally more interested be and able to hyper focus on things

>> No.24692599

>>24692560
>I think your genetics just don’t like weed
possibly but I would guess its more about a person's mindset
>I just feel slightly relaxed
Yeah nothing relaxes me by being fully aware of my own breathing

>> No.24692604

>>24692441
>Nope.
Well, looks like you agree with me then.
>"Weed is like, meth or heroin"
Newsflash moron. I don't like meth or heroin either. Is that supposed to be some sort of wild conflicting idea?
You're actually retarded, or are you high right now? See, can't tell the difference can anyone? I'm out of here you fucking lost cause.

>> No.24692607

By your late 20s you can see how weed has demented and arrested some of your friends lives.

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>>24692535

>> No.24692648

>>24692607
Or your own, in my case

>> No.24692662

>>24692515
I'm a webshit developer

>> No.24692666

Let me say straight off that I 100% think that weed and most drugs should be legal because the government has no fucking rights to tell me what to do when I'm not violating anyone else's property rights.
That being said... my big problem with weed smokers is that everyone that I know that started down that path eventually became obsessed with that stupid shit to the point that it becomes a core part of identity.
Yes, alcohol is more damaging, but most people that drink alcohol don't drink it every day and won't shut up about it when they're not drinking it.

>> No.24692672

>>24692607
I see it from alcohol too, have you ever actually looked at stats? why is it only weed that is evil? I know a guy 22 would probably die if he quit drinking cold turkey. Wakes up with a bottle of hard at his lips

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>>24692513
Bro you where smoking pure sativa weed, feel you.

>> No.24692701

>>24692672
Alcohol too my friend.

>> No.24692730

>>24692666
Yeah I smoke weed and I find this type pretty cringe and annoying. If I know you smoke weed, I’m probably annoyed by you too. However the secret stoners are who I associate the best with, we don’t even bring it up.

>> No.24692750

I like it because pajeets hate it

>> No.24692766

>>24692666
Checked

>> No.24692799

>>24691854
only reason i have a huge stack of link is because of getting baked.

>> No.24692808

>>24692730
I don't mind you guys in the slightest. It's the stoners that act like Millennial girls alcoholics ("insert wine here LOL I'm such a lush") that piss me off.

>> No.24692811

I’ve been smoking carts for over 2 years now. Been doing weed since 9th grade. 21 now. I hate the smell of weed and vaping just hits harder. I know it makes me stupider but I wouldn’t be able to hold link for so long without it. Helps get through the boring days waiting for $1000 eoy. I’m taking a long break and cutting down once I buy my new apartment.

>> No.24692827

>>24691854
i dont really phrase questions like 'whats so bad about weed dude bro' but rather 'what good does it bring me' in which case I dont see one. Sorry pothead.

>> No.24692829

>>24692799
/thread

>> No.24692832

>>24692080
go back to /k

>> No.24692877

South Park unironically nailed it.

"Smoking weed makes you o.k. with being bored and it's when you are bored that you should be developing some new skill or improving yourself."

>> No.24692911

>>24692811
this is a good satire

>> No.24692949

>>24692604
Dudejustdrinkyourkirklandsignaturevodkaandpunchyourkids
Bitter old man, death is near, can you hear the clock ticking?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VydqgEcFv-U&ab_channel=DopeAsYola

>stoners will do shit like this and think its normal

>> No.24692979

>>24692877
You’ve got a solid point there. However, I can focus hard on things that I can hardly pay attention to while sober.

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Anyone who hates weed but spends more than 8 hours a week playing video games is just stupid. I'd say a healthy percent of the people who partake here and there are more successful than the average /biz/let

>> No.24693019

I blaze it erryday
Make really good money doing my trade job. 100k a year plus
Trade stonks/crypto make good money doing that. 150k total
You could say im addicted to weed. Although i broke my back, not work related, so i smoke weed when my back hurts. 2-3 times a week then the rest of the time to get high. I dont get “high” from weed when i use it for pain. Im just happy weed works with my pain and im not on pills.
I dont get the hate though. inb4 4chan hates everything. Maybe people are jealous of the stoners, because they do fit the stereotype but at the same time do not. Especially in the job department. I know lots of high earning pot heads. I dont know many high earning alcoholics. inb4 wagie

>> No.24693023

>>24692877
I think this is accurate. It actually works out well for me. I've been a chronic perfectionist for most of my life and its served me well, but has led me to have many breakdowns due to not being able to just relax sometimes.

Weed has been a huge improvement for me because I can actually calm down the perfectionism a bit. I smoke daily but take periodic multi-week breaks to reset back to normal.

I'm 34, a dad, and semi-retired now due to high paying tech jobs and crypto. No regrets.

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>>24692677
>Bro you where smoking pure sativa weed, feel you.
what's this, the kind of weed that just paralyzes you?

>> No.24693058

IT FUCKING REEKS

HOW CAN YOU FAGGOT STONERS NOT UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BURNT OFF ALL THEIR OLFACTORY NERVES YET DON'T ENJOY BEING ENCASED IN CLOUDS OF RANCID WEED SMOKE THAT SMELL LIKE DEAD SKUNK MIXED WITH RIPE BABY DIAPERS

>> No.24693069

>>24693023
Thank you for this response. Glad it’s worked for you. OCD can be a friend and an enemy

>> No.24693073

>>24692666
>most people that drink alcohol don't drink it every day
You'd be surprised with the number of people that drink every day when they get home
>and won't shut up about it when they're not drinking it.
That's because they have no friends, they mainly get buzzed, watch TV, and then go on facebook and argue with other retards

>> No.24693083

>>24692513
what ethnicity are you

>> No.24693089

>>24693047
No, gets your brain into overdrive on sativa. All I smoke.
Indica (indacouch) sedates you. Typical lazy stoners smoke indica.

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Smoke weed & buy LINK. All you need to know.

>> No.24693131

>>24693089
Typical lazy stoners prefer indica**
I’m sure some successful ppl pref indica.

>> No.24693137

>>24693083
fuck off data farmer

>> No.24693165

>>24693137
id just like to know for personal reasons but yes i want your data for me

>> No.24693179

I vape weed almost every night and have been for about a decade. Work as an engineer currently. Maybe it's different when you're habituated but idk im perfectly functional the following day.

Most of my coworkers do also, its just not shit you really advertise or talk about. The ones who talk about it all the time probably give functional stoners a bad name.

>> No.24693222

>>24693179
I don’t feel so alone about it anymore lol. I’m the most successful of my friends who smoke and it’s reassuring reading this. This is exactly the same way my day works. Thanks friend

>> No.24693227

>>24693058
God I fucking love the smell of weed.

>> No.24693288

>>24691854
I don't hate weed, I hate the culture around it. I wouldn't care if people smoked it as long as they didn't base their entire personality around it

>> No.24693334

>>24693288
>I don't hate weed, I hate the culture around it. I wouldn't care if people smoked it as long as they didn't base their entire personality around it
Opposite of this guy, I worry more that it slowly lowers your IQ, I do not give a fuck about culture

There needs to be a study that literally just gives people weed and IQ tests every week for a year

>> No.24693339

i used to smoke weed everyday in the evenings but i enjoy my brain being as sharp as possible as i get older. as you start to age, your brain isn't as sharp as it used to be and weed amplifies it a bit. nothing major but subtle decline in my quick wit and motivation.

shrooms on the other hand are excellent and i will keep eating them on occasion for years to come.

>> No.24693383 [DELETED] 

>>24691854
I feel bad for your son.

>> No.24693418

>>24691854
I feel bad for your child

>> No.24693438

I vape copious amounts of weed every day after waging. Also it makes doing chores like laundry great

>> No.24693508

>>24691854
Weed can be a great investment, loads of easy money if you "invest" in it properly. No I don't smoke it though.

>> No.24693517

>>24693418
loser alert

>> No.24693549

I smoke weed in spurts. Maybe a 4 or 5 to 10 day cycle of being stoned all day every day every 3 months or 5 months or so.

By the time im done im always disgusted with it and glad im sober again

However, i still really enjoy it the first 2 to 3 dats i smoke each cycle. And i think that much us healthy because iits great relaxation that destresses me. However.....anymore is toxic and not healthy imo. Yet i usually will a week or more just because then go back to being without it for tge next 3 to 6 months ir so.

I find this way is good for me overall. However, it makes you feel like a lazy bummy degenerate piece of shit past 3 full days of being stoned. Its def not a harmless drug and needs to be treated with respect.

Alcohol is more destructive overall but weed is nit to be abused nor underestimated.

>> No.24693567

>>24692153
what fucking caveman tier metrics to base your self worth on. i smoke weed myself ,just made me laugh my ass off

>> No.24693604

>>24691854
>Why does this board hate weed?
It's expensive and there's a high correlation between using weed and being a loser.

>> No.24693702

>>24692289
no it doesn’t you ducking idiot
i make six figs software full stack u think low iq can do what i do ??

>> No.24693761

>>24693702
Pussy slayer

>> No.24693783

I am an electrician, married, with 2 daughters and I grow my own. Its actually really easy to grow WAY better shit than a dispensary. Its like comparing bud light, to a good hombrew, there is no comparison.

>> No.24693798

>>24691854
Used to be a huge stoner, quit smoking and started investing/making money/learning a trade. Now when I think of myself smoking I get embarrassed.

>> No.24693804

>>24693418
I feel bad for your parents

>> No.24693823

>>24693517
imagine your own father being a braindamaged, smelly stoner. talk about loser alert.

>> No.24693959

>>24691854
Weed is a distraction that take you away from your problems. Deal with them head on.

>> No.24694003

>>24693089
So if you mix them together you get lazy overdrive?

>> No.24694057

Reading this thread op, I think you would agree with me that there are as many, if not more, sober retards. Look at some of the detractors comments. That said, it does negatively impact your life if you smoke all day.

>> No.24694096

>>24692551
you sound very upset, may I recommend smoking marijuana?

>> No.24694150

>>24694057
Yes I work with the retard normies they make twice as much money as me and in their 50s. One crazy one is absolutely convinced JFK never died and is plotting with trump to win the election and she’s dead serious. She brings in 130k easy. Met another who spent 2 hours trying to convince me the earth was flat. Both of these people are the type to hate weed smokers.

>> No.24694189

>>24693083
>>24693165
woman posting style detected

>> No.24694211

Everyone i know who smokes is either a loser, becoming a loser, or a coaster with about 0 interesting things about them, if they manage to have steady work and income.

It literally makes them slowly get fat and ugly, lazy and they dont develop any personality outside of smoking weed, watching joe rogan and just babbling about stupid fucking esoteric ideas and never taking any action outside of their job to put food on the table.

Its obvious why, because it takes all their motivation and energy in the evenings or whatever.

I made a shit load of money selling weed to people for years yet i never smoked it at all after about age 16.

>> No.24694237

>>24691854
We're all stoners. It's all a LARP. We also hold a lot of TOMO but don't like to talk about it until we're already moderately wealthy. See you in Vietnam baby.

>> No.24694252

>>24692298

>ladies and gentlemen, the answer the OP

>> No.24694324

10/10 bait
but the actual answer is that weed is fine.
people who are loner losers tend to like smoking weed, but they were already on the path to failure and weed had little to no impact on that.

>> No.24694550

>>24694324
This is what I’ve always thought. And Hollywood and idiots ruined it for us. So it has to be done behind closed doors.

>> No.24694596

>>24694211
This

>> No.24694622

>>24692485
I'm a bigger fedora tipper than you and hate potheads more than anything.

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>>24694550
so this actually isn't a bait thread
but you're right- I've smoked more or less everyday since a teen (mid 30s now). Easily got a 4.0 in highschool, busted ass in college and got one of the most difficult degrees my college offers (90% of people who start it can't finish or are cut). Now making 6 figures.
I don't really blame people like this >>24694211 because like you said, hollywood and idiots give the impression that weed makes you like that. None of the people in this thread hating on potheads would guess I smoke at all if they met me.

I also understand the second guessing yourself part. I've been there a few times during low points in my life, but I'm confident now that weed isn't detrimental to me. My job requires multiple multi-week trips overseas each year and naturally I can't smoke during those. It barely has any effect on me. But when I'm home I do enjoy relaxing at nights and on weekends with a joint.

>> No.24694739

>>24691854
i smoke weed daily and make 300k at faang

>> No.24694851

>>24693549
This is me too. I always feel so much better when I havent smoked weed in a day or two. Then when I eventually cave and buy some more I always regret it about a week in. It's a fun drug to do with friends but I usually can't hold off the temptation to just smoke at home. It also kills my motivation to workout.

>> No.24694868

>>24694733
How much do you smoke a day/how high do you get/day? I usually get some major brainfog if I smoke a few days in a row

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>>24694868
For an average week- I smoke maybe 4 nights just a bit before vidya/sleep (half a joint, getting me like 3/10), 1 weekend day I'll smoke more starting in the morning (5-7/10), and 2 days I won't smoke (just don't feel like it)
As with anything, the key is being rational and honest about how it effects you.
if you get major brainfog and it's a negative, then of course, don't smoke that much or at all if you have important stuff to focus on.

>> No.24695002

>>24694928
>3/10
Yeah, figured a light buzz would be doable on a daily basis.
Unfortunately, the friends with who i smoke are maniacs that think hovering around 7 or 8 the whole evening is the only way to smoke

>> No.24695066

>>24695002
I did that too much in college and learned to cut it out if I need to be productive. I would often take small hits or just pass entirely if hanging out with people getting really fucked up.
I did the same thing with drinking, many of my friends would get super drunk every night and I learned to only have a few unless I was on holiday.
It might mean finding some new groups though, it isn't super fun to be only a little intoxicated with everyone else is stoned/drunk out of their mind.

>> No.24695092

>>24693567
And what the hell do you measure your worth in? Friendships? Childrens?

>> No.24695107

>>24693334
Propose that shit to the government.

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>>24692293

>> No.24695186

>>24695107
now that legalization and decrimization is happening, studies like this will actually be done. We should have been studying it's effects more closely for decades (thanks nixon)

>> No.24695196

>>24695186
Honestly i would be very very surprised if this hasnt been done already.

>> No.24695203

>>24691854
Don't worry about it, anon. Maybe weed deprives you of motivation but you gotta enjoy life a little, right?

It's better than being a drunk.

>> No.24695217

>>24691911
>I dont think the board is universally against weed,
Because many of us have had to interact frequently with people who smoke it on a regular basis. The worst thing about weed is the people who use it.

>> No.24695236

>>24695196
Weed is still schedule 1 according to the DEA
>no prescriptions may be written for Schedule I substances, and they are not readily available for clinical use.
its been (and still is) a significant hindrance to scientific, large sample studies on the effects of weed (and other drugs)

>> No.24695241

>>24693334
>Opposite of this guy, I worry more that it slowly lowers your IQ, I do not give a fuck about culture
As I understand it, its effects are worse if you use it regularly before the age of 25, where it can affect the myelination of the brain. After that it shouldn't be be as big of an issue

>> No.24695303

>>24692513
Don’t do drugs that are harder than you

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>>24692463
I've been fired when I was sober due to the sheer workload put on me. So the risk is always there. I don't smoke on really busy days but I just do every other day. Work is torture for your body and mind. Might as well lessen the pain a little bit if you can.

>> No.24695379

I dab high quality hash rosin all day everyday and make 2 million a year income conservatively. I would be willing to escrow 100k and and take a heads up Mensa proctored IQ test vs anyone on this board. I will agree that weed culture is obnoxious and lame as fuck.

Part of the reason 4chan us so anti-weed is they are autistic social outcasts and weed reminds them of high-school where they didn't belong. Plus the psychological pressure of a non structured encounter like a weed deal strikes immense fear into them.

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>>24692463
You can hold on to the job for however long if you can avoid getting stoned at work like a dumbass and never tell anyone because they'll look down on your for it. To be a functioning stoner you have to keep it a secret.

>> No.24695430

>>24695409
No matter how good you think you are at hiding it, someone can always tell. Better start making friends.

>> No.24695498

>>24695430
There's no tell anon. I don't smoke so I don't smell of weed. I'm not stoned at work, just at home. My friend used to do it and he worked insane hours for a drug testing job with the local power company to a certain large east coast city. Last I saw he'd been getting away with it for 7 years plus a drinking problem and caught a promotion instead of getting fired.

>> No.24695586

>>24693702
>He thinks that he needs a high IQ to become a meme full stack webdev.
Anon, I...

>> No.24695592

>>24692079
What a fucking an alcoholic cope lmao

>> No.24695610

>>24691854
I smoke the most weed out of all my normie friends and make more money than all of them trading crypto getting blazed all day

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>>24695430
> someone can always tell
people that say this fall into the 'all plastic surgery looks bad' fallacy.
if people you interact with regularly smoke and you don't notice, you obviously don't notice. but (obviously) you notice all the times you do, so you assume that your detection rate is 100%

>> No.24695629

>>24695610
>He thinks that number of 0's in the paycheck are an accurate indicator of IQ.
Anon, I...

>> No.24695660

>>24692289
>permanently
wrong. heavy use does lower IQ but the effect is entirely reversed after 3 months of abstinence. cbf funding the study though

>> No.24695695

>>24695629
I received an academic scholarship to a D1 school based on a high ACT score and have been successful at everything in life that I’ve actually put significant effort towards which just so happens to be trading shitcoins right now while smoking weed all day. Cope

>> No.24695708

>>24695660
its purely anecdotal, but it was 5 years of heavy smoking. ive been off it for 8 months and only some function has returned. i genuinely used to be way, way smarter. could be the depression too though

>> No.24695741

>>24691854
I smoke copious amounts, also many other thing. 17 linker, 186er, develop python algos for uniswap, etc. Fuck these pajeets, it's all a simulated rugpull, do what you do anon.

>> No.24695764

>>24692079
Based, fuck the green jew

>> No.24695793

>>24695695
>successful at everything in life that I’ve actually put significant effort towards which just so happens to be trading shitcoins right now while smoking weed all day. Cope
Nice, you give me Leonardo da Vinci vibes bro, don't forget to tell your family that you want your brain to be preserved for future studies, we don't want to lose that important piece of human history.
Peace bro, hahahahaha weeeed.

>> No.24695813

>>24691893
I'm not a loser and I smoke weed every once in a while (last time was february)

>> No.24695817

>>24695741
>develop python algos for uniswap
Oh my god, you develop on python? no way, there's no way a human being can be that smart, you must be a super human... NO! it must be your consciousness traveling across dimensions and touching the universal mind, there's no other possible explanation for that phenomena.

>> No.24695854

>>24691854
I personally do not like weed because it gives me anxiety
>inb4 muh wrong strain bro
No, that's not what it is. I went from smoking every day in high school and early college to almost never touching it. I smoked on New Year's Day for the first time in maybe 4 years, and lo and behold it had the same effect on me. I don't miss it at all.
I don't care if you like smoking weed, but I don't like it. I've done plenty of harder drugs so it's not a moral thing either.

>> No.24695867

>>24691854
daily is too much anon. diminishing returns. it cheapens it

>> No.24695914

Blazed almost every day since 19, got 6fig tech job outta college, stayed for 2.5 years while still blazing.
burnt out on wfh last month though , too many fuckinn video calls and ridiculous comms overhead. gonna take a long vacay and t-break to reset, then get a new job early next year. hopefully in a lean startup so I don't have to deal with all the processes politics and BS

>> No.24695934

>>24691854
I smoke it because it genuninely helps me with my anxiety and I totally reject to whole stonerculture which is massively cringe

>> No.24695982

>>24692301
You sir are a faggot. I can see your bald head and bifocals through my screen

>> No.24695995

>>24691854
Unironically quit my job summer of 2015 and started smoking weed. I was 24 and it became legal.

Unironically felt healed, joy, warmth and happiness. I was anxious and depressed for so I had forgotten life could be beautiful.

Everything changed for me once I learned how to use the different strains and vape safely(smoke not healthy).

That said it’s an extremely powerful medicine and I don’t think anyone still developing should mess with it.

Honestly though I’ve come to believe like many people have that there’s a spiritual element to cannabis. It’s a spiritual and healing experience for me. I call it Mother Cannabis.

>> No.24696010

>>24695995
Btw I now work from home and have my own business i forgot to add. Cannabis helped with the anxiety of quitting my jib and starting a business.

>> No.24696044

>>24695379
Nailed it

>> No.24696103

>>24695914
Nice. Sounds like you respect mother cannabis and she is your friend. Always keep it in check though. All the best

>> No.24696147

>>24696103
you too vro.
I try, but its easy to get in a rut if you don't watch your consumption, which has happened to me, causing dependence and complacency.
I recommend reading Pharmako/Poeia. lots to learn about cannabis in there

>> No.24696160

>>24691854
Spent my PhD researching effects of weed on the brain. Basically, the prefrontal cortex controls/inhibits a lot of circuitry responsible for habits & decision-making (basal ganglia). Long-term cannabis use weakens the control of the prefrontal cortex (higher order cognitive systems) over these habitual systems, making you much more susceptible to habitual/stereotypical behaviours.

>> No.24696166

>>24692079
>Yeah, and I have a whole organ in my body that helps me metabolize beer and clear it out of my system.
And what do you think happens with the THC in your body over time, genius? It gets metabolized by that same organ.
The other points are kinds true desu, that's why I only smoke a couple of times a month in the weekend.

>> No.24696485

I don’t really have a problem with weed. I have a problem with the majority of the trash that smokes weed.

>> No.24696516

>>24691911
I've only ever seen it sap people's motivation

>> No.24696534

>>24691854
Life is a game of ENERGY. You should avoid anything that slows you down. If you really think you're operating at your best smoking weed then fine, but for me I'd rather be on a constant uptrend of high energy and power. It fucks your dopamine receptors pretty hard, makes you need more and more stimulus/reward to feel the same effect over time.

>> No.24696539

>>24692513
dude, weed lmao. Dreaming is a very intense process, it's possible you had a panic attack because you were having an exciting dream. Maybe you were maxin btc in your dream?

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>>24691854
>Weed raises Estrogen levels:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

>Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

>Weed Reduces Volume Of Various Regions Of The Brain And Negatively Effects Motivation :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4104335/

>Weed Worsens Symptoms Of Social Anxiety Disorder:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3350824/

>Weed Causes Long Term Cognitive Damage:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19630708
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2484906
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1463999/
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0055821
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/47/16913.full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3593817/

>Weed Causes Depression And Anxiety Disorders:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23795762
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14616175
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032500/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5149055/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26773900
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10750321
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0122896
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166005#sec013

>> No.24696564

>>24696555
>Weed Causes Psychotic Disorders:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17007222
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352721/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19099294
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/
http://m.pnas.org/content/pnas/111/47/16913.full.pdf
http://www.adicciones.es/index.php/adicciones/article/viewFile/858/863
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930618/
http://www.pnas.org/content/113/5/E500
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2825218/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15871146

>Weed raises Estrogen levels:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

>Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

>Weed Reduces Volume Of Various Regions Of The Brain And Negatively Effects Motivation :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4104335/

>Weed Worsens Symptoms Of Social Anxiety Disorder:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3350824/

>> No.24696573

I smoke here and there. Like a glass of wine. Makes you feel nice and relaxed.
I am pretty successful (software developer). Most people smoke , who the f cares. Weed doesn't make you successful or loser, that's on you.

>> No.24696583

>>24696573
Yeah even after my massive anti-weed pasta I agree. In moderation once or twice a week is fine, especially if your brain is matured

>> No.24696629

I've got so much testosterone I always got a rock hard yoghurt canon. The increased estrogen from weed compensate for it.

>> No.24696811

i microdose thc from a vape

>> No.24696894

>>24692079
is this bait? lmao
alcohol is 500x worse in every single possible way you coping faggot
And I have consumed both in quantity, first hand experience

>> No.24697127

>>24691854
Long term smokers develop Schizophrenia. Imagine turning into a lunatic. Even alcoholics don't put that much strain and ridicule on their extended families. Weed sucks.

>> No.24697149

weed slows the mind anon.
This is more of a cocaine board.

>> No.24697257

>>24696564
That's like, just your opinion man. hehe, you guys should check out /r/ trees

>> No.24697499

>>24692750
We started smoking it first though. Where do you think the terms kush (hindu kush) and ganja (Sanskrit word for weed) come from? Why do you think it’s called indica?

>> No.24697558

I used to vape weed daily, but I went cold turkey this year. So far I've been clean for 4 months.
I feel more focused, less foggy and can actually remember my dreams.
I think weed is better than smoking or drinking alcohol as it's let's physically addicting and more of a mental thing but I no longer take any drugs of any kind now.
As an added bonus I put the money I would of spent on weed into gambling on uniswap roulette and have gotten a few X2s and even a X10.

>> No.24697568

>>24697127
Weed can induce psychosis in already prone people
Schizophrenia individually may be more difficult than alcoholism for family (i disagree though)

However on a societal level, alcohol is far, far more damaging

>> No.24697591

>>24691854
>weed popular
>popular bad
>making fun of normies fun

That is most of it. Its simply fun to poke fun at the weed crowd. I myself smoke way less these days because it tends to exacerbate my anxiety, and gives me panic attacks at worst. But it's not always bad and not everyone has that experience. I still dislike many weed smokers and drug users in general. Can't help it I just enjoy the natural, and unaffected human more.

>> No.24697628

>>24692079
Hit the nail on the head. Can never tell what state my weed friends who smoke are in, and they're typically emotionally and perceptively stunted too. They're not fun to interact with. Drunk people just elevate their emotions and are more outward/courageous.

>> No.24697671

>>24697628
Kinda sounds you just have shitty friends desu

>> No.24697693

dopamine addiction of any kind is antithetical to business and finance. you can succeed in spite of it, but that's besides the point
weed addicts are particularly annoying in that they're highly strung and pretend not to be. hence dramatic accusations like "this board hates weed". does this board "hates" anime, video games, smoking, alcohol, fast cars, prostitutes, expensive watches and so on too? whether they do or don't, you certainly don't see any chain smoker starting a topic like he's persecuted for his religious choices
weed is supposed to be recreative yet faggots make it their identity. it's just as bad as militant feminists or vegans - but at least feminists and vegans have some sort of political undercurrent to their convictions, misguided as they may be, whereas a weedie just takes something unimportant and blows it out of proportion to an uninterested audience
i make doom maps in my spare time, for the classic doom game released in 1993. do you want me to go at length explaining my love for doom maps? should i drone on and on about the careful balance of monsters and weapons, the great debate between detailing environments vs prioritizing abstractness and gameplay, the necessities of building <32px wide columns so players can't squeeze through with glitches
no. that shit is irrelevant to this board. keep your weird hobbies to yourself and to like-mined communities

>> No.24697708

IF you are going to smoke weed , Smoke HASH. Everything else is dogshit

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In my case I smoked weed a couple years in my early 20s and I look back on it and cringe because it did nothing to improve my life, if anything it made me too content being a dead end job loser and it actually made my anger problem worse. I’d be at work and I’d have problems controlling my fuse when I was asked to do shit that was out of my job description. It made the best years of my life fly by faster than they should’ve.

It’s a fucking stupid thing to do, if you want to smoke weed it’s your choice but there’s no defending it, don’t be a fuckwit like Joe Rogan who thinks weed solves every problem in the world, it’s absolute cope.

>> No.24697900

>>24691854
Quitting weed was one of the best decisions I ever made.

>> No.24697933

Look at all the weed states. New York, New Jersey, Oregon, California. Also tends to be full of antifa and blm. I bet all this weed legalization is to subvert the country into full retards and implant/hypnotically embed leftist communist propaganda.

>> No.24697969

oнa пpocтo в шoкe oт пpoиcхoдящeгo !

>> No.24698331

>>24691854
I made a kid in high school smoke my pubes, he was a skeevy stoner who didn't even right back, just took a big inhale and puked on himself. Last month I seen him working at subway sandwiches LOL

>> No.24698499

We're a business board so naturally the drug of choice here is c-c-cocaine. Or any stimulants desu.

>> No.24698695

>>24692079
that's not weed, that's just being a young adult

>> No.24698724

weed can cause minor brain damage if used regulary. Thats a fact. It will decrease your IQ. I spent years researching it after I got weed brain damage.

>> No.24698863

>>24695934
>>24695854
same here

>>24693959
I stopped years ago only because all I thought during the influence were my problems and existential dread

I hate how unconsistent weed effects tend to be from person to person

>> No.24698934

>>24698863

exactly what happened to me. I dont touch it anymore you just end up wasting your life on eating poppers and masturbating

>> No.24699061

>>24691854
>Why does this board hate weed?
because i have the displeasure of living near niggers, and i'm tired of smelling the unbearable nigger stench of weed literally the minute i step out of my front door. i'm tired of smelling it in grocery stores.i'm tired of smelling it in parks. i'm tired of smelling it driving down the highway. it's everywhere i go, the noxious fumes of marijuana that have passed through the filthy lips of some nigger ape.

>> No.24699091

>>24693702
>full stack web dev
>u think low iq can do what i do ??
AHAHAHAHA

>> No.24699193

>>24697900
Same. I used to smoke regularly throughout my early adult years and I was still productive/successful. I have 2 degrees and make six figures in healthcare. However, it fucks with my motivation and causes me to eat too much when I'm at home.

>> No.24700014

>>24692536
Based. I literally had all of this. I was a smoker for like 5 years straight, when I stopped I couldn't believe where my life went, the whole time seems like a blur. You lose the ability to think clearly, become irritable, lose quality of sleep and studies have shown that you lose up to 7 IQ points when you smoke, if you're a heavy smoker and quit then you'll only ever recover 5 of those 7.
People say they need it to relax, I feel like it caused the stress and deluded me into believing that smoking was "helping" me, when really it was just an addiction.

>> No.24700054

>>24691893
>Why does this board hate weed?
I've never really seen that sentiment expressed here, but it's not an uncommon perception that marijuana smokers are lazy.

>> No.24700157

I'm lazy either way so I may as well smoke it.

>> No.24700389

>>24692298
here it is

>> No.24700500

Been smoking daily all year, yeah I can see it made me more lazy and kinda dumb but I also enjoy just existing when I’m high. Basically it’s like
If I’m high, I’m okay to just chill, listen to music, play vista, sleep after waging
If I’m not high I just plan how to kill myself and make suicide letters so I’d just die if I didn’t smoke

>> No.24701732

>>24696555
Stoners BTFO. Trips of truth

>> No.24701767

What is worse, weed dependency or SSRIs

>> No.24701890

>>24691854
I smoke daily after work, 2 jobs making $250k+/year, millionaire on paper from crypto and stocks, all made while smoking daily.
I’ve also been living on my own since I was 18. Not a basement dweller like most of the biztards here complaining about a plant.
The fact is I’m winning at the game of life, without any help from others, and most people who complain about weed are the uptight, close-minded atheist losers.

>> No.24702556

Tnx just I've smoke more

>> No.24702594

>>24691854
anyone who modifies their behaviour because of what others think is a fucking loser. people should come to their own conclusions, or not. either way the decisions of others should be respected, given that you're not fucking people over. if you don't like the smell the it probably isn't for you, wow what a shock. for myself, it allows me to function without getting stuck on the non-stop retardation of modern life. am i not as sharp, sometimes. however the relaxation enables me to do so much more than i would otherwise.
>one man's trash is another man's treasure

>> No.24702671

>>24692079
This

>> No.24702708

>>24692289
How do you get started on this fellow weedbro?

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