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I am thinking of buying a farm in Maui, Hawaii and growing all my own food. Besides the natives hating on me for being a haole, is this a good idea?

>is living in the country and growing all my own food in maui hawaii a good move to make
>why shouldn't I move to maui seems incredibly based

>> No.24682485

The land is pretty shit for agriculture, anon. Plus they get hit by storms with decent regularity, and someday a lava flow might ruin your garden. If you want to farm, the Mississippi basin is where it's at. If you just want to live in tropical paradise and don't mind the high COL from having to ship in food, yeah it's okay. I prefer big island myself.

>> No.24682542

I've heard some bad things about police corruption in Hawaii (think 3rd world country style), not sure if it's only on a few of the islands but it's another thing you may want to look into before aping in

>> No.24682672

>>24682485
>Mississippi

No way in hell will I ever touch that hellhold. How is maui shit for agriculture? It is literally tropical, the perfect conditions for growing almost anything you want.
Mississippi is for literal brainlets, poor people,racecars, lizard people and overall one of the most fucked states I've ever visited. I visited it last year. Holy fuck. If a foreigner visits the united states for the first time and lands in Mississippi as their first American experience, I could only imagine that they would see america as t he stupidest, most backwards retarded place ever.

>>24682542
Any more info on this?

>> No.24682709

>>24682672
Sorry, I'm not going to spoonfeed a geographical brainlet and overall illiterate who didn't read my post.

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>>24682672
imagine thinking about farming but not knowing jackshit about it and being a fucking autist

>> No.24682855

>>24682397
You would have to set up in East Maui, it's hard to get back and forth from the commercial center around Kahului, but the land is better and cheaper. If you are going to do livestock, you'll have to raise the feed locally.

Lava is only a problem on the south side of the Big Island.

>> No.24683313

>>24682709
Sorry I didn't really read at all. Can you give me the scoop on the big island? What's better about life there? Isnt the crime bad?

>> No.24683350

>>24682855
What about gang violence against haoles? What about native on foreigner violence?

>> No.24683554

>>24683350
you want to know about the violence or anything else about Maui or any other place in the world? then listen to this real fucking good; don't ever give much attention to things that the retards on this site say.

>> No.24683582

>>24682672
these bait threads get so fucking old

>> No.24683612

>>24683350
Not a whole lot of violence out there, more of a social ostracism. The native Hawaiians definitely don't want blacks around though. That said, security system sales are robust, this isn't frigging Ohio. Get a couple of guard dogs.

>> No.24683822

>>24683350
There is a lot to hate about Hawaii. Island life is expensive and not easy. Maui and Oahu are actually pretty comfy, because there is a constant flow of mainlanders (OK not in 2020). Honolulu is very military, reminds me of a little San Diego. The Big Island is the least friendly.

Get used to seeing Asians and Hawaiians, Whites are a minority.

>> No.24683991

>>24683612
>>24683822
Fuck. My girlfriend is black. Will they hate on my black girlfriend super hard? Why do the natives hate blacks so much? Will she get beat up or hated on?
What are the worst places in Maui to be in? Places to avoid?

So basically violence isnt an issue unless you are a dick or?

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>>24683991
>My girlfriend is black.

>> No.24684154

>>24684055
Lol

>> No.24684212

>>24683991
There is no substitute for going there and looking for yourself. Stay in Kihei, and travel around. You can get anywhere in the island in about 4-5 hours. You will recognize the shitty parts of Kahului and La Haina when you see them. Just take a GPS, all the streets have Hawaiian names that confuse the fuck out of visitors.

>> No.24684288

>>24682672
Regular storms make farming regular staples impossible to do. One hard storm, boom, you’re entire crop gone.

>> No.24684329

>>24682397
my parents bought land in hawaii for 50,000 USD. Now, it’s completely worthless. Lava can completely ruin any land development at any point in time.

>> No.24684504

>>24684288
Cant a greenhouse solve this for things like greens? Beyond that I just want to grow fruit trees. Do fruit trees get wiped out by storms? I was planning on buying out a farm from someone.

>> No.24684540

>>24684329
Pro tip dont buy land where the lava flows

>> No.24684571

>>24684329
More clueless mainlanders. The lava flow zones are published on maps, and real estate agents are required by law to disclose it.

This problem is in and around Mauna Loa and Kilauea, not even on the other islands.

>> No.24684598

>>24684212
Thanks for the info anon. What places in all the islands do you think would be the best to set up a fruit farm as a haole? Is Maui actually a good choice or are the other islands better for white haole farmers?

>> No.24684661

>>24684571
Also is it actually possible to earn the natives and locals trust? Is it possible to learn their ways and learn the true spirit of hawaii? I was thinking of possibly paying off some mortgages of some natives to earn their trust.
Is it possible to actually be accepted and protected by the natives with enough work? I am a spiritual person and want to learn their ways through blood sweat and tears. Is this even possible or is it a haole fantasy of mine?

>> No.24684787

>>24684661
>I was thinking of possibly paying off some mortgages of some natives to earn their trust.
NEVER do anything like this. Excessive gifts get respect from no one. At best it makes them uncomfortable, because they owe you for it, at worst they'll see you as a soft touch and try to extract more wealth from you.

>> No.24684806

>>24684661
You will never fit in, even more so with your nika gf.

You may make quick friends by dropping a load of cash but that conditional love will dry up quickly once the money flow stops. At best you may make a few close friends but forget any idea of going native amongst the noble savages. Frankly, once you get exposed to them, they aren't even that likeable.

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>>24684598
Maui or Kauai. There are shit loads of farms all around the island of Kauai. In Maui, a lot of farming is done on the western slope of Haleakala. You could farm out in the jungles of Northeastern Maui but enjoy your shitty fucking commute to and from civilization on the only road around the island that is packed to the brim with slow driving Haoles that drive the locals ape shit

>> No.24684913

>>24684598
There are so many microclimates and quick elevation changes, its not really possible to say yeah go here or there. But I can say Oahu and Maui are probably the worst because of how expensive it is.

>> No.24684918

>>24684661
Dude, you should go to Hawaii first before you start talking about living there.

>> No.24685004

>>24684918
Bro I am rich in many ways and am sick of the cuckolded state I'm living in. But I get what you are saying.i am ready for change. A new chapter.

So basically where does this put me as a rich white man with a black girlfriend? Will I be able to enjoy maui if I dust off the hate from the locals?

>> No.24685038

>>24684598
>haole
Stop calling yourself by a foreigner's term for you. It makes me sick, like those 'men' who call themselves a 'white BOY' as opposed to a 'black MAN'.

>> No.24685086

>>24685004
If you're rich it won't matter. You'll hang out with other rich Haoles at their vineyards. Just go there and talk to other rich white people and figure out what they did

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>>24685038

>> No.24685104

>>24685038
It's always amazed me how White people fucking LOVE doing that shit. Like with the Aloha and Mahalo constantly. Just stop.

>> No.24685140

>>24685104
The first time I went to Hawaii I tried it on for size and felt cringey as fuck doing it and learned to just stick with "hello" and "thanks" and not be some fucking try hard

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>>24683991
ew
what the fuck
why would you have a black girlfriend
jesus christ

>> No.24685179

>>24685104
It is very strange. If some nigger walked up to me, said 'How do you do?' But then started chanting in his ooga booga tongue I'd give him no credit for it.

>>24685140
Any native who can't speak the language should kill himself, but white people have no obligation to learn it.

>> No.24685283

>>24685179
Hawaiian is now so riddled with Englishisms its like speaking a muck muck variety of English itself.

>> No.24685375

>>24685283
Really? Can no one speak it without English, or is it just that the things spoken about nowadays (cars, computers, supermarkets etc.) were introduced by English speakers?

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>>24685179
>If some nigger walked up to me, said 'How do you do?' But then started chanting in his ooga booga tongue I'd give him no credit for it.

>> No.24685688

The lockdowns were very strict everywhere where these type of subhumans live.

You will learn the hard way in the coming years when Covid-21 and -23 hit. Asia including Pacific shitholes had the worst lockdowns. Hawaii was and always will be a glownigger retreat and asset retirement place.

>> No.24685756

>>24685375
To be sure, it is still its own language, but in many cases you can hear a conversation and figure out what they are talking about - UNLESS they are speaking in Hawaiian so that you can't understand them, whereby they will consciously employ solely Hawaiian words.

And the english borrowings arent immediatley recognizeable as English words, you just have to know how the sounds are converted

For example, Mele Kalikimaka is Merry Christmas, it's literally just the words "Merry Christmas" glossed into Hawaiian

>> No.24685771

>>24685688
How can you even lockdown the outdoors? Lol isnt hawaii all about being outside?
Can you elaborate on the glownigher retreat place ? I have always suspected hawaii to be a place for the elites and other fucked groups. What exactly do they do their and what is their influence on the island?

>> No.24685772

>>24685688
Oahu is full of CIA, Maui is for Washington elite.

>> No.24685821

>>24685772
Is this one reason not to move their? Are the elite who live in maui fucked? What influence or danger do they have on the island?

>> No.24685861

>>24685821
Well if you are just going to grow carrots in Hana it shouldn't matter that there is an army of glowies lighting up Wailea.

>> No.24685893

>>24685771
average home price on Oahu is $800000, that fact alone locks a lot of plebs out

>> No.24685961

>>24682397
Honestly, I grew up in Hawaii, and I would not recommend moving there. The natives are so incredibly unpleasant and rude, even to their own race. Taxes are high, gun control is bad. Tourists everywhere.

Just get some land or a house on some other island somewhere owned by another country, it'll be way cheaper. Hawaii would be great if they dropped a neutron bomb and killed absolutely every living thing on the islands, and then let whitey recolonize it.

>> No.24686007

>>24685961
Lmao

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>>24685961
B-but OP is "spiritual" and wants to be like the natives.

>> No.24686023

>>24686009
These people are worse than blacks or abos man. We really should have wiped them all out before making it a state. They are so fucking ungrateful for everything.

>> No.24686061

>>24682397
Move to Kansas and grow wheat

>> No.24686075

>>24685756
It's a bit like that with the Welsh over here actually. There are plenty of first-language speakers, but essentially none who are monolingual (would be difficult anyway, with English on every sign and item), so they seem to 'slip' into using English words quite often.

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>>24686023
Personally I'd take Hawaiians over nikas, but yeah. I avoid their areas all the same.

>> No.24686219

>>24685961
>>24686023
>>24686061

Can you redpill me on native hawaiians and why they are worse than blacks or Abos?

Would I be fine if I live in the country in Maui for farming?

>>24686009
More so just want a tropical paradise to farm on lol

>>24685861

Can you redpill me on wailea and the glowies there? How often would a farmer in the countryside actually interact with the elites that own maui? I dislike elites and if at all possible want to avoid interaction with them even in passing.

>> No.24686444

>>24686219
Kihei/Makena/Wailea are where rich White tourists go. (Upper middle class White tourists stay between Kapalua and Lahaina. Japs stick to Oahu.) You run into East-coast congressmen and politicians around Kihei all the time, at church, at the grocery, wherever. (If you know who they are).

You may fare better in the Caribbean with that gf of yours.

But this paranoia begs the question, WTH are you hiding?

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>>24682397
I don't what your background may be, but if you're the average /biz/ NEET you will give up on your farming aspirations after a week once you realize how much work it is. Hawaii is still a pretty chill place to live, don't worry too much about the racism. Those kinds of Hawaiians live in poor shitholes areas, but I'm speaking from my experience in Oahu.

>> No.24686560

>>24686444
Not hiding anything. Just want the most chill, carefree life possible on my journey.

>> No.24686598

>>24686527
So basically what I'm getting from these posts is that hawaii is separated by class and race. Dang it sounds based if true lol. Is my paranoia really that bad? I guess for me it's not paranoia but anxiety and fact checking how fucked this place is.
>>24686444

>> No.24686652

>>24686527
Sauce?

>> No.24686800

>>24684661
Good troll

>> No.24686824

>>24685004
A true man would offer up his slave for another’s use.

>> No.24686866

>>24684504
>greenhouse in a tropical region
Good work on roasting your plants

>> No.24686901

>>24686652
It’s your mom. You’re used to seeing her front end

>> No.24687090

>>24683313
the east kona side is the tourist zone. feels like south cali as far as the climate.
like the anon said, the south side especially kalapana is where you have to worry about lava. although I met some people living out there on the lava rock in little shanty houses. they seemed pretty content living cheap and using solar panels and sat internet. as you can imagine the land is cheap. unfortunately that was early 2018 and all those houses are now under rock.
the north side of waimea is where you want to be. beautiful rolling hills like the shire and a ton of farms. seemed like mostly locals in the area.

>> No.24687152

>>24687090
What sides of maui are the most niggerish?

Thank you for your info.

>> No.24687181

>>24682397
Fuck the natives they’re practically island niggers don’t start Shit with them tho

>> No.24687194

>>24687090
sorry I meant to say kona in the west side.
the east side is more tropical and has more rainfall but the hilo area is a shithole

>> No.24687212

>>24687152
my post is related to the big island.

>> No.24687251

>>24687212
Are natives basically island niggers? Do they fuck up whiteys and cause mischief?
What is living in the country on the big island like compared to maui? Which one is better for farming?

>> No.24687363

I know one person who lives on Maui she owns a dentist office on the island then another on the big island. I stayed at her house and she is super comfy with chickens dogs goats and a nice plot of land. She is ethnic herself, which is why I think it works. I wouldn't expect to be welcomed if your just a rich white dude moving there and buying up their land, the island is only so big and you'll probably be targeted and have your house robbed at some point.

>> No.24687417

>>24687363
Will I actually be robbed as a white guy owning land there, if I live low key?

>> No.24687478

>>24685771
You get arrested if you step outside, it's full of cops just like in the US.

>> No.24687519

>>24687478
Is it really that bad still? That seems fucked. They really dont let you go outside? Fucked if true.

>> No.24687631

>>24685771
>Can you elaborate on the glownigher retreat place ?
Retired assets live there, some who fake their death. They enjoy their retirement others might still be involved in intelligence to a degree. It's similar to Aspen, Davos, etc. a glownigger retreat from it's inception, but also intelligence operations happening inside the mountains.

>>24685821
No danger since you are a simple docile peasant. Most likely won't even see them as they often use Yachts/Catamarans and their private estates.

>> No.24687640

>>24687417
we have 49 states where we are the majority they have one tiny island where they are the majority. Your coming to their spot and expecting to be welcomed why?

>> No.24687661

Hate to burst your bubble anon, but I’d move to Seychelles instead if you want island life. Your money goes further and you’re out of the country in a new land. Native Hawaiians and people born there have a massive chip on their shoulder toward huwite men and will hate you no matter how low key you live, how much money you pump into their economy, or how nice you are. Excuse me for relating life to a tv show biz, but the best way I can describe how you’ll be received is like the show called Yellowstone when the Californian investor tries to move there.
t.a guy who is pretty respected in the surf community and has been to Hawaii multiple times

>> No.24687694

>>24682485
>maui
>lava flow
retard

>> No.24687755

>>24687519
Not sure how it is now, but it was pretty bad during the last lockdown. All of Asia is authoritarian including the pacific islands where these half-asian subhumans are in positions of authority, and they are everywhere since colonialism ended. Think Togo, Fiji, Samoa, etc.

>> No.24687982

>>24686652
jexkaawolves