Kleros Thread

[Anonymous No.24670289]

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[Anonymous No.24670395]

I'm so happy that the old general chat channel in the Temple of Kleros was deleted after I spoke to a few key individuals. It was very nice to come to a reasonable crossroads there rather than say having the entire server taken down I think. We just can't have racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia permeating in our main communication channels can we, not if we want further adoption. The future is bright.

[Anonymous No.24670452]

>>24670289
Whenever someone asks me if I need more PNKies

[Anonymous No.24670517]

Best coin. I love my heckin' pinkerinos (I have 1.2M of them)

[Anonymous No.24670536]

>>24670517
Will Kleros explode in 2021?

[Anonymous No.24670598]

>>24670536
Only if you do the needful

[Anonymous No.24670639]

[Anonymous No.24670645]

>>24670598
I have 20k PNKs sirs, should I allin?

[Anonymous No.24670670]

>>24670645
Do you want to make it? I did.

[Anonymous No.24670730]

>>24670536
Guess so. PoH incoming. Lots of partnerships too.

Then on the "real life" side, a lot of parties are eyeing Kleros to be implemented in justice systems. Including top unis like Stanford Law.

[Anonymous No.24670986]

>>24670395
Kek this this actually happen?

[Anonymous No.24671057]

bros...moon when?

[Anonymous No.24671092]

>>24671057
oh shit

[Anonymous No.24671183]

when are kleros gonna work with deversifi again
i want to earn more nectar

[Anonymous No.24671235]

Who is he, /biz/? What a madman

https://etherscan.io/address/0x3d96a409b46d945d2802330b968b1de917ce597f#tokentxns

[Anonymous No.24671271]

what's the suicide stack?

[Anonymous No.24671396]

>>24671271
10k

[Anonymous No.24671508]

>>24671271
100K suicide, 1M make it

[Anonymous No.24671517]

>>24671271
1M suicide 10M make it

[Anonymous No.24671531]

>>24671271
10M suicide 100M make it

[Anonymous No.24671952]

>>24671271
think of the sum of money you need to make it, then divide by 10 - that's the number of PNK you should buy

[Anonymous No.24672014]

>>24671531
1000M suicide stack - Developers to make it.

[Anonymous No.24672093]

Does anyone actually serve on the courts and mind talking about the experience? How much do you make after gas? How much risk is there voting against the majority? How much much work is involved in the typical case?

[Anonymous No.24672192]

>>24670986
yes, but it was for the good of the community

[Anonymous No.24672235]

>>24671235
Wtf is his deal reeeeee

[Anonymous No.24672321]

>>24672093
Your odds of being chosen and risk vs reward for being a juror in a particular court can be viewed at : klerosboard.com/odds/

>>24670730
Based af. Just looking at the guests that have been on their podcast makes you realize how bullish institutional players are on kleros.

[Anonymous No.24672342]

>>24671271
It has always been 250k. Anyone claiming anything lower is a late retard coping.

[Anonymous No.24672347]

>>24670730
What is PoH?

[Anonymous No.24672365]

>>24672347
Proof of humanity. Basically proving you are a human and not a robot. Will have big usecases in KYC for exchanges as well as UBI

[Anonymous No.24672384]

>>24672342
>He doesn't know how big kleros will be

[Anonymous No.24672904]

>>24672093
I staked and haven't been selected yet. Unfortunately I started using the Ethereum network at exactly when gas prices went crazy so it cost more than it should, I'm out about $15 staking in two courts (general and J-E translation).

[Anonymous No.24672921]

>>24672384
He’s still accumulating

[Anonymous No.24673557]

>>24672904
I'm surprised there aren't more Japanese translation cases with how big crypto is in Japan and the general otaku culture in crypto. Thought there would be dozens of doujin translation requests by now and it was one of the biggest use cases of the project.

Seems like all the cases are in curation whatever that is or Spanish for some reason.

[Anonymous No.24673577]

[Anonymous No.24673825]

>>24673557
Spanish is not surprising. There's over a billion speakers and then portuguese is basically also spanish. Jap being uncommon is also not a surprise because even though it's popular on the internet, it has a very low marketshare in spoken languages in general. There aren't a lot of qualified/good J-E translators even though lots of weebs take a year's worth of jap courses in college. The kanji difficulty spike is really hard to get over for native E speakers, and unlike China having a billion people so at least some of them become decent E speakers, Japan doesn't have that many people to begin with so they have proportionally fewer good E speakers to act as translators.

I've said this in other threads, but at least for Jap -> Eng translation, it's really easy to get a good reputation. Scan/Sub groups exist all over the place and already take commissions based on trust, so there's not much need for a trustless service like Linguo, especially when it offers more risk to a good or established translator compared to just taking commissions already. The worst thing for a good translator isn't losing their staked ETH, it's having their time wasted on a project that then gets fucked because some challenger showed up and challenged their work, then jurors decided in favor of the challenger. I can easily see that happening just once and burning a translator on the project for all time.

Back to Spanish, I can see that being big on Linguo for translating an Eng translation of Jap media to Spanish. One of my translation projects had that happen to it (I think they asked me for permission beforehand and I said yes, but I certainly couldn't have stopped them if they just went ahead without my blessing). I don't know what the J-E-S translation community is like, so there might be more of a market for trustless translation there than there is in the J-E community which has already established norms.

[Anonymous No.24673834]

[Anonymous No.24674233]

hey bros, got some money for my 21st birthday and im wondering if I should throw it all into PNK right now, or wait for another dip

(have 130k PNK already so its not urgent)

[Anonymous No.24674304]

>>24671952
Finally someone on biz realizes that stacks are subjective.

[Anonymous No.24674328]

>>24674304
Clement did confirm several times that 25 k is the official suicide stack though

[Anonymous No.24674356]

>>24672384
He's just super salty that clement proved him wrong

[Anonymous No.24674372]

The profession of private detectives is becoming more popular nowadays. That’s why after the prospective pre-sale the GTX price can increase x10!

[Дapья No.24674415]

It is difficult to find a good platform with crypto solutions to invest in.

Studied DuckDAO, read twi posts of crypto pros. Seems like it is a transparent platform with an investment system. Do you know anything about it?

[Anonymous No.24674427]

>>24674328
Based. I saw the screen shots recently. That other faggot always stays mad.

[Anonymous No.24674493]

>>24673825
Interesting. Thanks for the detailed response.

[Anonymous No.24674553]

>>24674233
I would just go all in now

[Anonymous No.24674640]

>>24671235
follow the whales
>>24671271
pic related

[Anonymous No.24674713]

>>24674493
Translation is one of my interests so I'm watching this space closely. Thank goodness for pajeet meme spammers turning me onto Kleros. I would have hated to miss the boat on this.

[Anonymous No.24674908]

>>24674553
if it pumps above 10.5 cents on uniswap, i'll assume the downtrend is over and FOMO in for another 5k PNKs

[Anonymous No.24674967]

>>24674713
I've been on and off learning for years. Finished remembering the kanji but quit literally right after because it was such a time sink and I realized I knew literally nothing after a year of study. Tried again but conjugation got discouraging. I'm probably at a decent enough level to serve on the court though if a lot of cases were going through. Sad it didn't take off.

Kleros is my biggest bag though. It's criminally undervalued just a matter of waiting until that value is realized. Could be months could be years but it will happen eventually.

[Anonymous No.24675380]

>>24673825
>J-E-S translation

mexicans love anime, im not surprised

[Anonymous No.24675630]

>>24674967
>Sad it didn't take off.
We're still extremely early. Linguo literally just opened up and apparently I'm the only person staked in the J-E court. I also got stalled by the kanji wall but eventually figured out that it's like the periodic table in high school chemistry, eventually you just start remembering it from using it so much, even if you don't devote time and energy to explicitly studying kanji. The best way I've found (at least for recognizing kanji) is just to plow through something you want to read with a dictionary open. Eventually after twenty times looking up the same kanji, your brain decides it's less effort to just remember the damn thing and boom, now you remember it.

>>24675380
Everybody loves anime. It's why anyone saying Jap is a dying language is a retarded FUDer. Any language that produces entertainment media that people in other languages are willing to invest resources into learning or translating will never die out. Just look at Latin and Ancient Greek.

[Anonymous No.24676014]

where to buy?

[Anonymous No.24676121]

>>24676014
UNISWAP. If you're a US citizen you're not allowed on exchanges that trade it. Personally I don't like the idea of dapps (metamask) but it's necessary to use Kleros at all so I'm putting up with it. I just wish there was a way to use it with proper desktop wallets or better, cold wallets. Most of my PNK is in cold storage right now after trading ETH for PNK on uniswap. It wasn't too difficult, just gas fees were outrageous because I picked a bad time to get in.

[Anonymous No.24676518]

>>24676014
unicef, sir

[Anonymous No.24676558]

Who else MIR to PNK here?

[Anonymous No.24677227]

>>24670289
I first bought in august at $0.17 and have been buying $600 worth every month since and will continue to do so until we surpass my initial entry price

[Anonymous No.24677878]

>>24677227
Smart man. You will feed your village for years to come with that kind of go getter attitude.

[Anonymous No.24678332]

i think i just understood kleros

Anyone:*Anything someone passionately disagrees with*
>Prove it
>Ok but you have to pay me
>How do i know you wont cheat
>We use a smart contrract that works like this if you're not satisfied with the proof you despute and the court decides while having locked funds as collateral for keeping a secret for said period of time faggot

[Anonymous No.24678737]

>>24671235
This is me. I am buying every time you knuckleheads sell to keep us above .1. I just want you bros to make it.

[Anonymous No.24678781]

>>24676558
>>24677227
Welcome to our village sirs you are now part of our Pajeet family

[Anonymous No.24678788]

>>24678737
probably a larp but based

[Anonymous No.24678855]

>>24678332
Nope, you don't understand at all. Read the white paper and the book.

[Anonymous No.24678953]

Check out the recent World Economic Forum report. Everybody holding LINK or PNK right now is gonna make it.
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Interoperability_C4IR_Smart_Contracts_Project_2020.pdf

[Anonymous No.24679014]

Sirs, you are require at the Kleros Court! The big case in your hands sirs.

[Anonymous No.24679156]

>>24678855
redpill with more points for research please
post address i will repay you or you can charge me a poorfag fee
im too tired from work to fit a proper research right now and with my work schedule i wont be able to make an informed descision untill the 27th
friends are utterly uninterested in crypto and it pisses me off

[Anonymous No.24679195]

>>24671235
A living proof that someone almost made it with BTC without any knowledge and pure luck.
Unfortunately he will give it back to the market after enough time.

[Anonymous No.24679287]

Actually I'm looking at the Kleros dashboard and I'm seeing the reward for non-technical is 0.07ETH, but the reward for J-E Translation is 0.08ETH. That's broken. The reward for General is also 0.08ETH. J-E translation is a specialized skill requiring way more than 1.14 times the skill needed for non-technical.

How do these rewards get upgraded? Is it based on having more cases than jurors so rewards get jacked up to attract jurors? Marketing Services Reward/Risk ratio is also pretty fucked up, 0.12 is nuts given how much is required to stake in that court.

Do these metrics free float or are they set in stone? No, I haven't read the whitepaper yet I've got WFH stuff I'm working on.

[Anonymous No.24679418]

>>24679156
Post your telegram. I will tell you all you need to know, and you can ask questions.

[Anonymous No.24679527]

>>24670289
I have staked in 4 courts, but if I try to stake for a 5th I have a 300$ gas fee. Is the limit of courts 4? Do I have to make another wallet?

[Anonymous No.24679646]

>>24679418
Omg fren?
Lukavi#3793

post yours so i know who you are

[Anonymous No.24680030]

>>24679646
Mine is dumb_fridge

[Anonymous No.24680045]

>>24679418
It's really simple:
>two parties sign a smart contract with a clause stating that in the case of disputes, the decision on how the smart contract executes goes to kleros court
>Party A isn't happy with Party B's fulfillment of the contract, so they hit the Kleros Court button
>both parties submit evidence that they either did or did not comply with the contract to three indian villagers on the Kleros platform
>after reviewing the evidence, the jurors vote on how the contract should or should not execute
>if either party is unhappy with the result and thinks a different jury would have voted in their favor, they appeal
>now it's six indian villagers and a /biz/nessman that vote on the same evidence
>this continues with increasingly larger juries (and fees) until the appealer gives up

The value comes from providing a trustless mechanism for disputing smart contract resolution, because currently there is no court in the world that will handle small claims dispute resolution between individuals in different nationstates. So there's a market for justice. The kleros platform has built in incentives for jurors to vote honestly, so you have some assurance that cases are being decided on their merits rather than on a whim or corruption.

[Anonymous No.24680298]

>>24679418
>>24679646
>>24680030
what 9 hours of sleep over 3 days does to you
im gonna have to redownload telegram

[Anonymous No.24680667]

Hop on boys! Vishnu says $1,000 EOY!

[Anonymous No.24681853]

Got my first case yesterday. Pretty open and shut, too.

Went ahead and staked a bunch into non-technical blockchain too, because apparently that's where all the cases are.

[Anonymous No.24681926]

>>24680667
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