/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.24646833]

The worlds first anonymous P2P client. By utilizing the NKN Blockchain network we make transferring files fast, anonymous and secure. Surge is a p2p filesharing app designed to utilize blockchain technologies to enable 100% anonymous file transfers. Surge is end-to-end encrypted, decentralized and open source.

https://surge.rule110.io/

Slowly working, slowly developing. NKN will have its day.

[Anonymous No.24646922]

>>24646833
Checked and NKN pilled.

[Anonymous No.24646943]

The point of the project?

[Anonymous No.24646964]

Is there a worse shitcoin and investment in this space than this?

[Anonymous No.24646985]

Where is it traded?

[Anonymous No.24647001]

>>24646943
It's a working example of decentralised networking. Effectively making incredibly optimised global paths through the existing physical infrastructure of the internet.

Worth a read up on, they've bagged some legit major enterprise players with no sign of slowing down. They'll most likely break 1B MC within 3 years.

TLDR
Makes internet faster, more secure, and 100% anonymous, globally.

[Anonymous No.24647003]

>>24646964
Rlc

[Anonymous No.24647023]

The crypto market is slowly reaching a point where we have lots of useless shit offered all the time just to scam us out of our $

[Anonymous No.24647062]

Opinions on IOV?

[Anonymous No.24647066]

>>24646833
fuck all chink coins, including this one

[Anonymous No.24647073]

>>24647001
yeah but tokenomics are shit

[Anonymous No.24647316]

>>24647001
>It's a working example of decentralised networking. Effectively making incredibly optimised global paths through the existing physical infrastructure of the internet.
Is this the point of NKN or just this surge app? This is only my second time hearing of NKN ever, but that sounds huge if true.

[Anonymous No.24647743]

>>24647316
Surge. This is just one usecase of the NKN network, which is a platform capable of so much more stuff. You should research about it.
They don't do brainless shilling so you won't see it posted here a lot, price action is low. That is why /biz/ and pajeets don't like it, but it is like early 2017-2018 LINK without the concentrated autism of the link marines.

[Anonymous No.24647849]

>>24647743
Excellent, I'll sperg out over and see what find. I was in on LINK back in 2017 at .45$ for the same reasons. The glut of anti-shills fudding in this thread alone gave me those same vibes again, which piqued my interest pretty hard.

[Anonymous No.24648230]

>>24647073
Tokenomics are solid, but rely on massive adoption. Unlike what /biz/ is used to; NKN doesn't actively try to pump the token price without any gain to the network. That said, NKN are proving that they absolutely provide massive adoption. They signed iQIYI at the start of the year - China's largest video streaming platform, which is bigger than Netflix US. They also signed Synololgy up to use NKN to move data remotely from NAS devices. No one else has achieved this like NKN has. Watch this space...


>>24647316
Kinda both. NKN is a network to be built on. Surge is a program built on top of the network, the same as other products - nConnect, nCDN, dataRide etc. They all boil down to the same thing however. Genuine anonymous data transfer, whether it be IM, video, audio, plain text, websites, whatever. If it's available on, or through, the internet - it's most likely viable to be done through NKN instead.

Quick example of their global reach... my average download speed from China to EU is 500KB/s. Through NKN, I can hit 9MB/s to the same servers. Shows how incredibly efficient it is.

[Anonymous No.24648649]

>>24646833
this is so freaking huge!
and just one example of what nkn is capable of.

[Anonymous No.24649643]

>>24646833
omg i got bags of that shit i want to die thats the worst investment i did in my life! stay away like fire guys and plzzz god , dont fall for the "gandalf" shhhiitt

[Anonymous No.24649720]

>>24648230
>They all boil down to the same thing however. Genuine anonymous data transfer, whether it be IM, video, audio, plain text, websites, whatever. If it's available on, or through, the internet - it's most likely viable to be done through NKN instead.
Posting from a different computer, but I was >>24647316 and >>24647849, and this sounds like exactly what I was hoping it was. This and SENT are on my radar because I see decentralized internet as the next big thing after DeFi, which is what got me to believe in LINK all those years back.

>>24649643
Buy the FUD, sell the shills.

[Anonymous No.24649789]

>>24649720
you are one horrible larp and a very likely a bag holder of new kind of nigger.

[Anonymous No.24649940]

>>24649789
>bag holder
Nope, not yet. I do have a comfy stack of LINK from 2017 though. Stay cucked pump chaser.

[Anonymous No.24650121]

>>24649789
sore bois stay sore

[Anonymous No.24650811]

>>24646943
Make chink scammers rich.

[Anonymous No.24651187]

>>24646833
>https://surge.rule110.io/
I've tried this thing long time ago and it's based.
NKN in general is based.
Everything they code is based.

But WHY THE FUCK the coin doesn't pump??

[Anonymous No.24651215]

>>24647003
Exactly. That's why I'm busy buying all the remaining stock of RLC so people don't have to fall for this scam!

[Anonymous No.24651247]

>>24647316
Surge isn't even done by the NKN team. The NKN project is truly wide. It's basically on every field linked close or far to the "new internet"

[Anonymous No.24651331]

>>24651187
Why bload the load this early? To get dumped at 5x or 10x back to 2 cents? They're playing the long run.

[Anonymous No.24651442]

>>24647001
>it's a working example of decentralised networking
so is bittorrent. what does this do better than bittorrent? it has some meme token. wowee

[Anonymous No.24651635]

>>24651442
>so is bittorrent. what does this do better than bittorrent?
I'm guessing the level of encryption and anonymity that bittorrent can't provide because the data is still being sent through a centralized ISP's IP they give you with no obsufication that you're who it's coming and going to. Bittorrent is like BTC; it's a public ledger, not a private transaction, therefor unsafe in many ways.

[Anonymous No.24652060]

>>24651187
The larger the rocket, the more fuel it takes.

>>24651635
Pretty much this.
Surge has brought together file sharing similar to Limewire, with the benefits of multi-seed torrent-type downloads, yet it's more secure and anonymous than them both.

[Anonymous No.24652392]

bump

[Anonymous No.24653480]

Based NKN holder checking in

This project if delivers is an easy 100x

[Anonymous No.24653731]

The main thing I'm seeing that's concerning so far is that the company developing it is both based in China and the main bulk of code is closed source, meaning all of the anonymity claims could easily be posturing to disarm the thought that CCP has a backdoor built into it for them. This is further confounded by the fact that big name pioneers in the spyware and surveillance industry, such as Microsoft and Intel, are also members of the Open Networking Foundation with them, and that they're actively working with centralized ISPs under strict NDAs. From what I can tell, it appears the SDKs and apps built onto the network are open source, meaning individual apps could have good intentions, but this won't matter if the main net code is closed and potentially compromised, as explained due to a very skeptical eye needing to be turned to any tech that comes from China. Closed source code for financial institutions makes sense and is the norm, but not for privacy focused and decentralized projects. For example, Tor is open source, IPFS is open source, UniSwap is open source, XMR, BTC and ETH are open source, LBRY is open source, the list goes on, but not this, despite also claiming to be interested in the same ideals of decentralizing and securing network and finance that those projects are.

1/2

[Anonymous No.24653760]

It's made me very seriously doubt the validity of a ruthless surveillance state like China ever allowing something like this to be developed under their very very watchful eyes without an ability to control and collect all of the "anonymous" data that will be sent through this network. The CCP has historically banned all forms of anonymizing services and projects, such as VPNs and Tor, with extreme prejudice, so why would this be any different? Think about it. I have extreme doubts as to NKN being a truly anonymous network or service. I'll keep an eye on it and keep reading, but over my few hours of research and my personal experience with network security and internet privacy, it sounds more and more like a way for them to install NSA level network surveillance infrastructure globally, while marketing it as the opposite, rather than a truly decentralized and safe internet infrastructure alternative. You can claim the network may be decentralized, but until the code is as well, that means nothing for your safety or privacy using it.

All of that said, I'm still extremely bullish on the concepts it claims to have and any project that could actually deliver on the claims they try to make, but I would not personally consider that to be NKN, nor would I use or invest into NKN until it was fully open source. It may have a lot of money behind it, and to be made, but as it stands is NOT a viable tool for anonymity or encryption, and may actually be the exact opposite.

Call this FUD if you like, but it's just my 2 cents as a potential investor. Choose wisely, friends.

[Anonymous No.24653970]

>>24653731
>>24653760
Sources for their partners and cooperation with ISPs is from their own FAQ: https://forum.nkn.org/t/all-in-one-nkn-faq/164
Source for potential open source code is here, but I wasn't able to find anything actually substantiating it, such as, ya know, actual open source code for their main network making all of this possible posted anywhere: https://medium.com/nknetwork/june-12-2018-milestone-nkn-announced-open-source-8a02e4b20eb

[Anonymous No.24655319]

>>24653760
The node software is fully opensource and available to view on the github, and has also been successfully audited. As long as the node software is known and trusted, we know that the network is safe to use and develop on.

"the only thing closed source in NKN Commercial are the added services like nCDN and nConnect as well as some business logic ... for nConnect, the underneath software 'TUNA' is 100% open source"
- Bruce CEO himself.